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RoCKeT-88:
--- Quote from: 青山 素子 on April 04, 2012, 01:34:38 AM ---
--- Quote from: SoLoGHoST on April 04, 2012, 01:10:45 AM ---that the uploader is responsible for what they upload.
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True, but given the recent developments in the "take down first, figure out guilt later" actions going on, even if the uploader will be responsible, the site owner will have quite a fight while their website is down. Also, the owner will have to prove that they had no knowledge of the file activity and probably undergo investigations.
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--- Quote from: 青山 素子 on April 04, 2012, 01:34:38 AM ---
--- Quote from: SoLoGHoST on April 04, 2012, 01:10:45 AM ---In any case, if this were even an issue, PM Attachments could be unapproved until they were reviewed, but than we have an issue on PERSONAL CONTENT, which is what PM Attachments are about.
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Yep, having to do the whole approval thing and active monitoring means you lose whatever safe harbor status exists.
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This would only apply in the CP not copyright|trademark two different situations and rules. If you discover CP you don't wait for a DMCA take notice lol you document it, SS, get IPs and anything else, take it down and contact authorities and the host! This is not rocket science.
The site is not responsible for trying to figure out other peoples copy right. It's not a hard concept the info is readily available.
Have to stop confusing CP with ® when a site is responsible for removing content
Fustrate:
But how are you supposed to know about it when it's in a private message? If two people are using your forum to share CP, that's going to cause trouble for you if anyone finds out, there's no way around it.
Private messages should be private, otherwise the conversation might as well just be in a public board. Breaking the privacy of PMs is not something we'll build into SMF.
RoCKeT-88:
--- Quote from: Fustrate on April 04, 2012, 01:50:12 AM ---But how are you supposed to know about it when it's in a private message? If two people are using your forum to share CP, that's going to cause trouble for you if anyone finds out, there's no way around it.
Private messages should be private, otherwise the conversation might as well just be in a public board. Breaking the privacy of PMs is not something we'll build into SMF.
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Then your not responsible obviously as stated before by you and I, and I agreed it would be a hassle but really have to wonder what kind of board people are running to have to worry so much about this and what is on their systems, just thinking here. I think 99.9999999% of admins could easily show they weren't involved with what their forum users were doing. Just like webmail. So never got answer to this question so webmail is out too? If this was true YahooMail! would already be shut down.
RoCKeT-88:
I agree admins should not be approving PM btw. Be like Yahoo checking every webmail message.
Fustrate:
And when one of those people gets raided by the authorities, their computer is searched, and your website turns out to be a hub for pedophiles? Yes, it's an overly dramatic scenario, but it can happen. We'd rather not put a feature that can be abused into the vanilla distribution of our product, but that doesn't mean you can't distribute or install a mod or plugin which adds that feature.
In the end, it comes down to what the developers are willing to add to SMF, and this is just one of those things that we're not going to do.
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