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wk38:
Disappointing.

Sorry Leo. I don't buy that argument. As a 15 + year software development project manager I have some experience in that area.

Gary:
For themes however, the upgrader will make it so that you can use a custom theme on 2.0, but it wont have all the extra features that come with 2.0 though, you'll need to add those yourself, but the language strings will be updated.

IchBin™:

--- Quote from: wk38 on March 19, 2008, 12:55:20 PM ---Disappointing.

Sorry Leo. I don't buy that argument. As a 15 + year software development project manager I have some experience in that area.

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Perhaps you should look at the source a little closer. Not to mention the view (templates) that will hopefully be completly overhauled to be more semantic. Database abstraction and security change A TON in SMF2. I don't see how your 15+ year dev experience can think that software shouldn't move forward in terms of security and usability. Sometimes the changes are so great you can't continue down the old path. If you don't buy that excuse thats fine, but its a living reality for any evolving software.

wk38:
I understand what what you are saying and don't get me wrong, SMF is great and I certainly want development to move forward. I also realize that SMF is free and the amount of effort and dedication it takes to keep it free.  However, when you are running a large commercial board especially for profit, you need scalability, compatibility and predictability. It's difficult for a large forum operator to also move forward when you don't know from one release to the other what will work and what won't or how long you will have to wait for it to work.

I have a fair amount of money invested in custom designed themes, not to mention the mods I have installed including Tiny Portal which is the best portal out there bar none. Now I can't upgrade 1. Because TP won't work and there's no time frame for a new version. My themes won't work unless I now hire someone at additional expense to rework them.

So where does that lead for the future? Every time a major feature release comes out I have to completely rework everything? Maybe, maybe not, who knows? Maybe for SMF it boils down to the data model, the template system or how it was originally engineered. Again, scalability, compatibility and long term predictability. Software companies do it all the time.

IchBin™:
Companies do it all the time with the right type of software. Web software is subject to a lot more compatibility issues than most (php, mysql, web standards etc etc). Don't think that SMF doesn't do its best to keep backwards compatibility. As far as I can see, you shouldn't have to have a Major make-over on your themes to make them work. It should be just a matter of updating them. Which IMO, shouldn't take much.

Oh, and I agree about TP. :)

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