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PM Message Rules - Members can avoid Admin PMs & Warning PMs

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xrunner:
Note: This topic was posted in the SMF support area, but got no responses, I am hoping for some comment here since I consider this a bug also.

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SMF 2.0 RC4

We just discovered that a member can set up a rule in their PM area which can auto-delete all PMs from Admins, Global Mods, or any other membergroup that exists. This seems strange. How can we make it so members cannot set up a rule that deletes Admin, or Global Mod, or System Warning messages from the moderation center?

Surely this is an oversight in SMF 2.0 RC4. No member should be able to set up a rule to auto-delete these staff messages. How can we disable groups from appearing in the member's PM rule configuration area, or keep them from setting up a rule for each Admin or Global Mod to delete their PMs? We would like them to be able to disable PMs from members who are harassing them, but not PMs from Admins!

Let me be very clear here - Setting up a rule to delete messages from Administrators also deletes all the warning messages sent to the user, this was verified by testing. No user should be able to auto-delete warning messages! This must be an oversight or bug.

sawz:

--- Quote from: xrunner on December 11, 2010, 08:39:46 AM ---
Let me be very clear here - Setting up a rule to delete messages from Administrators also deletes all the warning messages sent to the user, this was verified by testing. No user should be able to auto-delete warning messages! This must be an oversight or bug.

--- End quote ---

so your saying you send a warning message, its filtered by the user and deleted and your copy is deleted as well?

xrunner:

--- Quote from: sawz on December 11, 2010, 09:11:26 AM ---so your saying you send a warning message, its filtered by the user and deleted and your copy is deleted as well?

--- End quote ---

A member can set up a rule to auto-delete all messages from admin, including the anonymous warning messages sent when their warning level is adjusted. There are no copies that I know of for the warning messages; but that is beside the main point.

How is it not a bug to allow members to set up a PM rule that will delete admin and warning messages messages? There is no way I've found to disable this ability for regular members. This is a bug that defeats the warning messages from the warning system, and important messages from Globals and Admins.

sawz:
in v bulletin you can choose not to receive messages or notification from the admins.
this isn't any different. if a user chooses to ignore warnings, ban them.

xrunner:

--- Quote from: sawz on December 11, 2010, 09:25:13 AM ---in v bulletin you can choose not to receive messages or notification from the admins.
this isn't any different. if a user chooses to ignore warnings, ban them.

--- End quote ---

Thanks for addressing my question, but, very respectfully, what difference does it make whether it's the same as vbulletin or not? Just because it's the same as a competing forum doesn't mean logically it makes sense or is a good idea; and this doesn't make sense nor is it a good idea.

Letting members make PM rules to auto-delete admin and warning messages defeats the purpose of these message. It makes no sense whatsoever to me nor my other moderators. None of us understand why this is allowed with no way to turn it off. Admins must have unfettered ability to communicate with members whether they like it or not. How is this not so?

Can you explain why we can't at least remove certain groups from the rules making options?

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