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nend:
This is what I think of the new European cookie law, :P

LOL, it don't apply to me.  ;D

But I will fight for your rights against it, because I am not found of it.

Everything I have coded that required cookies, have been out of necessity. If the cookie wasn't present the script will not work.

Take 2-SI Chat for instance, now SA Chat, if the cookie wasn't there. On every load windows would overlap because no position data is stored via the JavaScript. Multiple windows will cause sync data to be unavailable causing messages or no messages to spit out to certain windows. Basically the server side script will loose most communication with the possible multiple client side script. It is a mess and will break the script, which isn't tracking just trying to figure out what is going on with its JS counter part.

On a side note, maybe banks shouldn't keep transaction records, because they show where you have been, they are tracking also. This is how they are looking at the internet world and it is unsafe for future development of it.

Thantos:

--- Quote from: CircleDock on May 03, 2012, 06:26:16 AM ---I have augmented Emanuele's "EU Cookie Law" modification by adding Geo-Location so that only visitors from within EU member states will need to agree to cookies, those from outside the EU won't be prompted and cookies will be set as before.

My changes are detailed in this post.


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I would be careful with using geo-location in such a way.  You could get false negatives and end up serving cookies to someone who was in the EU.  Plus there is the issue of a UK citizen traveling outside of the EU, can you serve them a cookie without violating the law?

IMO, if you are going to comply with it then do it for everyone, makes things easier.

emanuele:

--- Quote from: Thantos on May 03, 2012, 11:14:34 AM ---IMO, if you are going to comply with it then do it for everyone, makes things easier.

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QFTW

CircleDock:

--- Quote from: Thantos on May 03, 2012, 11:14:34 AM ---
--- Quote from: CircleDock on May 03, 2012, 06:26:16 AM ---I have augmented Emanuele's "EU Cookie Law" modification by adding Geo-Location so that only visitors from within EU member states will need to agree to cookies, those from outside the EU won't be prompted and cookies will be set as before.

My changes are detailed in this post.


--- End quote ---
I would be careful with using geo-location in such a way.  You could get false negatives and end up serving cookies to someone who was in the EU.  Plus there is the issue of a UK citizen traveling outside of the EU, can you serve them a cookie without violating the law?

IMO, if you are going to comply with it then do it for everyone, makes things easier.

--- End quote ---
The MaxMind database used by my changes - and used by Spuds' geoIP mod - is claimed to be over 98% accurate. That will be degraded slightly by the appearance of IPv6 Addresses but I've erred on the side of caution by assuming that they are all in the European Union (which of course won't be the case). In fact my changes assume the visitor is within the EU unless their IP Address shows otherwise.

JohnS:
It is my impression that if your server or your data controller is in the EU then you need to observe the rules even if the visitor is outside the EU, if you and your server are totally outside the EU then you do not need to observe the rules even if the visitor is from the EU. The law is applied to the person providing the service not to the end user. If you or your data controller is in the UK and your server is outside the UK then you need to seek permission to keep your data outside the UK under the data protection act.
That is just my impression from reading the various laws and guidelines, but I can not offer a legal opinion. It would therefore seem that using an IP locator is irrelevant and just slowing things down.

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