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Re: Recent Travails of SMF Team and Friends
« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2010, 04:17:29 PM »
You have my support, good luck! I really hope this works out :)
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Re: Recent Travails of SMF Team and Friends
« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2010, 04:27:42 PM »
Here's hoping you guys and gals can work everything out.
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Re: Recent Travails of SMF Team and Friends
« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2010, 04:30:37 PM »
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Re: Recent Travails of SMF Team and Friends
« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2010, 04:55:10 PM »
A lot of things COULD mean bye bye...  after all, the US could be hit with a 15.5 earthquake and we all fall into the ocean...
Lol, most of the devs are in Europe anyway, so even that wouldn't stop the machine™ ;)
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Re: Recent Travails of SMF Team and Friends
« Reply #25 on: January 28, 2010, 04:56:33 PM »
I'm sure that they will come up with a solution. :)
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Re: Recent Travails of SMF Team and Friends
« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2010, 05:02:27 PM »
Though, are the servers not located in Arizona? heh.

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Re: Recent Travails of SMF Team and Friends
« Reply #27 on: January 28, 2010, 05:09:25 PM »
Though, are the servers not located in Arizona? heh.
Just because the servers are located in Arizona doesn't mean some of or all of the devs can't be located in Europe.
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Re: Recent Travails of SMF Team and Friends
« Reply #28 on: January 28, 2010, 05:14:12 PM »
Though, are the servers not located in Arizona? heh.
Just because the servers are located in Arizona doesn't mean some of or all of the devs can't be located in Europe.
Yes, but I was saying that the actual SM.org site itself would be lost if a 15.5 magnitude quake hit the States.

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Re: Recent Travails of SMF Team and Friends
« Reply #29 on: January 28, 2010, 05:25:23 PM »
Ah, they wouldn't be lost, you see, the SMF servers are special, they have wings so they can fly in the event of an earth quake.

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Re: Recent Travails of SMF Team and Friends
« Reply #30 on: January 28, 2010, 05:26:03 PM »
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Re: Recent Travails of SMF Team and Friends
« Reply #31 on: January 28, 2010, 05:27:39 PM »
Good luck, Finally there is a possible solution for this problem :)

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Re: Recent Travails of SMF Team and Friends
« Reply #32 on: January 28, 2010, 05:42:55 PM »
Good luck to everyone involved.


Though, are the servers not located in Arizona? heh.
Just because the servers are located in Arizona doesn't mean some of or all of the devs can't be located in Europe.

The servers are located in downtown Atlanta.
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Re: Recent Travails of SMF Team and Friends
« Reply #33 on: January 28, 2010, 06:31:45 PM »

However, I'm not too good on being shaken.


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Re: Recent Travails of SMF Team and Friends
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Re: Recent Travails of SMF Team and Friends
« Reply #35 on: January 28, 2010, 06:47:10 PM »
My only hope is that the sides think not only of "their sides", but the people that use the product as well.  Every side exists because of the other.  In other words, compromise is key or else each side cuts off their nose to spite their face.

Without the program there is no need for a USER... Without the USER there is no need for a program.  You can replace the bold word with any particular group involved in SMF like Customizer, Charter Member, Developer, etc etc etc.  Also, it just goes to show you how intertwined all these groups are.

We all rely on each other and each person needs to ask a simple question;  Why are you here?  Are you here because you want to help others or want to assist in creating something great?  Or, are you here because of a need to be in control or feel some grandeur?

Personally, I'm here because I wanted to create a site where my friends could come together and speak freely.  In finding SMF over a year ago, I found a place and program where I saw people from all ways of life coming together for a common goal; communication.  This is what SMF and forums are about.  I hope that the people listed in the original post remember this.

I think that most of the hostilities, rumors, and misconceptions could have been avoided if things were handled differently, but that's the benefit of hindsight.  In the future, I hope that those who are in charge are more open, forthcoming, and less cryptic about what is happening behind the scenes.  Lack of communication is what breeds the negativity.  To me it has been a lack of explanation of what is really going on which gets the emotions involved.

At this point, the damage is done.  Whether it really is about taxes, structure or something else, there is now fallout.  It is up to those who are in charge to state things CLEARLY from now on and not VAGUELY like in another thread.  VAGUENESS creates doubt and is the fault of those who don't explain themselves CLEARLY.  It isn't the fault of the membership who may interpret it wrong.

Hopefully everyone involved will not let their Pride keep them from doing what is correct for the whole of the program.  Sorry, it just pisses me off that troubles happen here when there is so much potential and good.  SMF has done so much for so many people.  I hate to think that a few people on whatever side could choke things. 
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Re: Recent Travails of SMF Team and Friends
« Reply #36 on: January 28, 2010, 07:01:09 PM »
Well you can be sure of one thing. If the negotiations break down both teams will blame the other. :D
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Re: Recent Travails of SMF Team and Friends
« Reply #37 on: January 28, 2010, 07:06:09 PM »
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My only hope is that the sides think not only of "their sides", but the people that use the product as well.  Every side exists because of the other.  In other words, compromise is key or else each side cuts off their nose to spite their face.
I wanted to address this one point, because this is something that is very near and dear to me.  If you've seen some of my posts in Chit Chat and my upcoming blog post on dlhazard.com, you will see that I'm going into this, not only representing the SMF Friends, but with the mindset of representing the entire community, as a whole.

One thing I want to make abundantly clear about the five people involved in these discussions:  We all have a love for this project, far greater than many of the community will understand.

Ultimately, we want to find a common ground that protects the interest of the community and the integrity of the project, while still allowing it to move forward with the rest of the restructuring we all want.

Rest assured that the community will be very well represented with the five figureheads at this proverbial table.  If we didn't have a love for this project, those of us that are "on the outside looking in" wouldn't be fighting as hard as we are for this project.

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Re: Recent Travails of SMF Team and Friends
« Reply #38 on: January 28, 2010, 07:28:29 PM »
Got my fingers crossed hopefully SMF will come through this much stronger then it has been in years.

Good luck all five of you. We all as a community are counting on you.

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Re: Recent Travails of SMF Team and Friends
« Reply #39 on: January 28, 2010, 10:45:21 PM »
Good luck.

On the subject of the 15.5 earthquake... Since that is a pretty big number (not picking you Kindred), impacts would definitely be felt in the EU/UK :p even if it did only hit the US. I suspect Tsunami's and other things would be easily triggered by it.. so HA.

Anyway, again good luck. It's good to see (?) some progress perhaps being made.
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