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Thumbs Up (Like / Dislike) for Posts?
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--- Quote from: Arantor on June 16, 2012, 02:25:06 PM ---I dunno, I would imagine more people would use this than would use karma.
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Maybe karma should be a plugin then! I always thought the karma thing brought around mixed experiences. Most of the big forums don't use it anyway.
MovedGoalPosts:
For many of the more social based communities a thumbs up / thumbs down system could be a benefit. It certainly stops the me too type posts but enables other forum members to express their views.
If one looks at the apparently popularity (based on downloads) of the thanks type mods, which apply for people who are helping out, there is potential for a likes / dislikes.
One could argue that karma can in some way fulfil this function. But ask why the main SMF forum, like many, doesn't use karma? Simple over time karma becomes distorted by those in the "clique" of users that get to know each other, and other useful newer posters will take forever to get there own reputation levels to match the established. Rarely does karma show to other viewers which posts are being rated.
So a thumbs up / thumbs down likes system may not be for everyone, or even most forums, but it could be a relatively simple feature which a good number of SMF admins would choose to implement. But I'd be wary about creating many statistics. User profiles or top poster style things that show "this user has received ### likes" again re-encourages the clique mentality which potentially breaks rather than enhances communities.
Arantor:
Let me explain the one big difference between karma and likes, and this incidentally holds true for reputation type systems too...
Karma is per user, likes are per post.
Being per user, karma and reputation invariably get distorted over time in a way that likes generally don't, the manifestation of which is the clique syndrome that movedgoalposts referred to. Likes, on the other hand, generally don't get that because while there might be minor cliques who just go round liking everything, what tends to happen is that it just changes the baseline - instead of a popular post being 1-3 likes, it might require 5-10 likes where 0-3 likes is the background noise, so to speak.
(Numbers are really irrelevant, it's more to make the point, basically popular posts will just provoke more likes, and the cliques tend to end up just being a minor undercurrent of background noise of likes)
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--- Quote from: Arantor on June 17, 2012, 09:28:18 AM ---Let me explain the one big difference between karma and likes, and this incidentally holds true for reputation type systems too...
Karma is per user, likes are per post.
Being per user, karma and reputation invariably get distorted over time in a way that likes generally don't, the manifestation of which is the clique syndrome that movedgoalposts referred to. Likes, on the other hand, generally don't get that because while there might be minor cliques who just go round liking everything, what tends to happen is that it just changes the baseline - instead of a popular post being 1-3 likes, it might require 5-10 likes where 0-3 likes is the background noise, so to speak.
(Numbers are really irrelevant, it's more to make the point, basically popular posts will just provoke more likes, and the cliques tend to end up just being a minor undercurrent of background noise of likes)
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Very good description - very well explained. Never been much of a fan of karma to be honest, for all of the above reasons.
Nightwish:
So here is my take on this
http://forum.miranda.or.at/topics/likes-reloaded-or-welcome-post-ratings-2205.0.html
Should give enough flexibility to combine post ratings with a karma/reputation system.
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