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My SMF 3.0 Dream
RoCKeT-88:
--- Quote from: Fustrate on April 04, 2012, 02:00:27 AM ---And when one of those people gets raided by the authorities, their computer is searched, and your website turns out to be a hub for pedophiles? Yes, it's an overly dramatic scenario, but it can happen. We'd rather not put a feature that can be abused into the vanilla distribution of our product, but that doesn't mean you can't distribute or install a mod or plugin which adds that feature.
In the end, it comes down to what the developers are willing to add to SMF, and this is just one of those things that we're not going to do.
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I think that scenario is out of the scope of the discussion, clearly. I am still waiting to hear about webmail just for fun. Does the newletter feature allow attachments? Don't really know right off hand but could that be a similar issue?
I think it would be easier to just say were just not doing this tbh as to try to pedal this idea imo but I am just user not a SMF admin and my 2 cents dont go too far here. I have no beef in it really as I am not interested in PM attachments for my forum I was just disputing who was going to be on the spot for uploads. This is like saying Verizon should not sell answering machines cause a user might leave messages about CP. However SMF ultimately decides what features to include end of story, take it or leave it. That is not what I was really discussing but we can do that too lol
Sorry for many edits as I am on the laptop and in bed and my typing skills are not of a secretary lol
青山 素子:
--- Quote from: RoCKeT-88 on April 04, 2012, 02:03:24 AM ---I think that scenario is out of the scope of the discussion, clearly. I am still waiting to hear about webmail.
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If you are hosting mailboxes for people and those people exchange illegal content using it, or just violating copyright using it, you could still run into trouble. Yes, there is the whole "safe harbor" thing and other defenses, but you might still be subject to legal issues of which you may not want.
Also, it wouldn't be too hard to be a pain and use PM attachments to eat up disk space to mess with the owner. Since those are PM attachments, you couldn't just go and clean them out like you could with public attachments.
RoCKeT-88:
--- Quote from: 青山 素子 on April 04, 2012, 02:11:05 AM ---
--- Quote from: RoCKeT-88 on April 04, 2012, 02:03:24 AM ---I think that scenario is out of the scope of the discussion, clearly. I am still waiting to hear about webmail.
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If you are hosting mailboxes for people and those people exchange illegal content using it, or just violating copyright using it, you could still run into trouble. Yes, there is the whole "safe harbor" thing and other defenses, but you might still be subject to legal issues of which you may not want.
Also, it wouldn't be too hard to be a pain and use PM attachments to eat up disk space to mess with the owner. Since those are PM attachments, you couldn't just go and clean them out like you could with public attachments.
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I am not sure how many times I have to say I agree the headaches are there or could be. I have agreed to that numerous times already. Ultimately that is the site admins choice.
Disk space argument I get totally but that is the site admins problem no one elses.
Antechinus:
--- Quote from: 青山 素子 on April 04, 2012, 02:11:05 AM ---
--- Quote from: RoCKeT-88 on April 04, 2012, 02:03:24 AM ---I think that scenario is out of the scope of the discussion, clearly. I am still waiting to hear about webmail.
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If you are hosting mailboxes for people and those people exchange illegal content using it, or just violating copyright using it, you could still run into trouble. Yes, there is the whole "safe harbor" thing and other defenses, but you might still be subject to legal issues of which you may not want.
Also, it wouldn't be too hard to be a pain and use PM attachments to eat up disk space to mess with the owner. Since those are PM attachments, you couldn't just go and clean them out like you could with public attachments.
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Actually you could, even without viewing them. You simply make it a site policy that if storage space becomes an issue, any and all attachments may be subject to removal.
Ok, let's take the current PM system. Using that on a vanilla installation, a person who is so inclined can already do the following:
1/ Use the bbc img tags to exchange pictures of anything, including CP or snuff.
2/ Exchange links to illegal downloads.
3/ Engage in grooming and/or sexual harrassment of minors.
4/ Exchange proprietary code.
5/ Exchange details of hacks and other malware.
I could go on with more examples, but I'm sure the point is clear by now. As I said, I have been thinking about this lately, and I'm not convinced the old arguments against PM attachments really hold up to scrutiny.
青山 素子:
Then see about that modification that was mentioned earlier. The author might be fine with sending you a copy.
Remember that just because SMF isn't as bloated as you want doesn't mean you can make it that way.
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