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Suki:
At July 17 2012, there are 5 mods on the queue, of course it all come down to how many mods were approved, never mind Suki been burned out, that kind of stuff just doesn't care right?
So, I deeply apologize for taking a few days to clear my mind and to work on my own mods, can't promise it won't happen again but I'll do my best...
MrPhil:
If the queue gets quite backed up at times, and reviewers are burning out, it sounds like there's something wrong with the system. Could tools be provided to assist reviewers, perhaps by helping them to concentrate on what's been changed, rather than leaving it to them to go wandering through the code on their own? Should SMF be rearchitected to make mods much cleaner and less prone to unexpected side effects?
This would be a problem with any community-based project. Do other projects handle it in a better way? Is there anything that SMF could learn from them (architecture and/or review process)? You certainly want a capable developer who understands SMF in-depth to do the reviewing, but is there anything that could be done to ease the burden and speed the process, as there are so few of these valuable people?
Arantor:
--- Quote ---At July 17 2012, there are 5 mods on the queue, of course it all come down to how many mods were approved, never mind Suki been burned out, that kind of stuff just doesn't care right?
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I can fully sympathise, probably more than you might realise, and for all the hard times I give, it's because I have been on the other side of the fence too and know what to expect, and know only too well what demands are being made. If people aren't toeing the line, that's what happens (and it's one of the reasons I stepped down 2 years ago)
I think the whole burn-out problem is catching, actually.
--- Quote ---rather than leaving it to them to go wandering through the code on their own?
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Well, a mod package is simply a list of changes anyway.
--- Quote ---You certainly want a capable developer who understands SMF in-depth to do the reviewing, but is there anything that could be done to ease the burden and speed the process, as there are so few of these valuable people?
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Other projects have either the same problems (with all the same problems and little different to fix it) or they don't bother with the approval process and just wait for people to report projects as unsafe.
Kindred:
Exactly... (last point)
One of the main things about SMF is that the team has always taken security very seriously.
This has been good for SMF, with quick security releases (but only a few of them) as opposed to months of insecure running and/or frequent required patches.
On of the side-effects of this attitude, though, is that the team vets each and every mod submitted to our mod site fairly carefully (at least on the initial submission). The team confirms that there are no obvious security issues with the mod (and there are any number of mods which have been bounced back because of potential security flaws) and that coding standards are subscribed to (so that mods don't conflict more than necessary and or performance problems are not introduced through bad coding)
Those of you who write decent mods probably don't see the issue, because your mods, when they make it to the front of the queue are frequently approved with only minor communication.
or those of you ******ing and moaning because you want mods available have apparently been spoiled because you don't realize how much effort the team has put into protecting users from potential issues with their sites.
because, you know what will happen, the first time someone installs an unchecked, untested, security-flawed mod and gets hacked? They are going to blame SMF... not the mod, but the software.
FrizzleFried:
--- Quote from: Suki on July 17, 2012, 08:32:28 AM ---At July 17 2012, there are 5 mods on the queue, of course it all come down to how many mods were approved, never mind Suki been burned out, that kind of stuff just doesn't care right?
So, I deeply apologize for taking a few days to clear my mind and to work on my own mods, can't promise it won't happen again but I'll do my best...
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Instead of taking this thread personally, perhaps you could look at it as a criticism of the SYSTEM not those within the system?
Think about it... I had no idea of how many mods are waiting for approval (hence my question)... I have no idea of how many different people are currently approving mods (is it just you Suki or are there others?)... all I know is what is visible from the regular members side.
My criticism/opinion in no way reflects on the folks currently working within the system... at all...
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