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« Reply #80 on: January 24, 2012, 04:57:47 PM »
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Not a clue. My interest in that kinda thing's minimal, to be honest, coz I doubt I'd understand it.

It was written by a senior developer for a large project, because he wasn't satisfied with what they were using anyway, and then another member of the project happened to piss off the company that ran the repository. It was all in 2005, for a modest development, by a chap called Linus Torvalds. Yes, THE Linus Torvalds.
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« Reply #81 on: January 24, 2012, 06:00:20 PM »


That Linus? :P
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Re: My SMF fork.
« Reply #82 on: January 24, 2012, 06:00:53 PM »
Haha, no, not Linus van Pelt ;)
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Re: My SMF fork.
« Reply #83 on: January 24, 2012, 06:29:20 PM »
then another member of the project happened to piss off the company that ran the repository

Given that the product they were using was very tightly controlled commercial software and given that said company CEO, Larry McVoy, had a bit of a hot head when it came to said product, it was bound to happen at some point. I mean, Larry McVoy is awesome talented and all, but some of the licence language around BitKeeper is rather... interesting. It caused Brian O'Sullivan to have to leave the Mercurial (another DVCS) team.

As for Git, I'm starting to learn about workflow with it (I know the basics of VCS), especially working with remote repositories. I'm actually kinda glad that the whole BK issue happened and spawned git, it's really helped push DVCS software along.
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Re: My SMF fork.
« Reply #84 on: January 24, 2012, 06:55:25 PM »
Oh, I'm not disputing that it was going to happen at some point, it was more the manner in which it happened (that, ultimately, the first 'blow' was struck by the users rather than the admins of the repository, as it were), and I certainly won't argue that it's made a lot of changes across the landscape.

I just personally won't be using Git any time soon, it just doesn't fit in with how I develop and given that I tend to develop best in reasonable isolation, I don't my adapting to it very easily.
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Re: My SMF fork.
« Reply #85 on: January 24, 2012, 08:47:29 PM »
I just personally won't be using Git any time soon, it just doesn't fit in with how I develop and given that I tend to develop best in reasonable isolation, I don't my adapting to it very easily.

It looks like it's pretty awesome even for solo development, mostly because you have a full repository so you don't need to be "online" to work with the repo.
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Re: My SMF fork.
« Reply #86 on: January 24, 2012, 08:49:37 PM »
I don't like it even for solo development. I much prefer something where I don't have to think of a repository as a hex string but a number indicating onward development.
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« Reply #87 on: January 25, 2012, 11:33:55 AM »
I'm not too bad at speaking British.  I grew up reading a lot of English authors, and once worked for an English company.

In the US, we have another meaning for GIT, too, which Larry the cable guy so aptly applies in his catch-phrase "Git 'er done".

I think a GIT repo is most attractive to projects which have, or would like to encourage, considerable community involvement.
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« Reply #88 on: January 25, 2012, 11:44:14 AM »
Git *is* designed for strong community involvement, having been designed originally for the Linux kernel itself which is massive in terms of collaboration.
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« Reply #89 on: January 25, 2012, 01:22:00 PM »
yep.
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« Reply #90 on: January 25, 2012, 02:08:23 PM »
I'm not too bad at speaking British.  I grew up reading a lot of English authors, and once worked for an English company.

Yeah, but sometimes our weird colloquialisms don't make it, over The Pond.

I believe that a "Git", originally, was a pregnant camel, in much the same way that a "Dork" is a blue whale's penis.

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« Reply #91 on: January 25, 2012, 02:28:26 PM »
http://etymonline.com/?term=git

I love those little differences between our languages.
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« Reply #92 on: January 25, 2012, 02:34:19 PM »
They can cause problems, as I found out, in Atlanta, many moons ago.

I happened to mention that I was dying for a fag.

Over here, that's slang for a cigarette...

I sure got some odd looks, before I cottoned-on.  :)

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« Reply #93 on: January 25, 2012, 02:41:34 PM »
Many years ago, I was out for a pint after work at a themed chain restaurant/pub.
I noticed that the waitress uniform had recently changed from white top and black trousers to white top and very short skirt.

I turned to the English bloke next to me and remarked, innocently enough -- "The waitresses used to wear pants, but they don't any more.  I wonder why?".  I thought he was going to choke on his lager.

Shortly after this, I began to study the differences in usage of common words...



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« Reply #94 on: January 25, 2012, 02:51:19 PM »
That's an odd one. When I lived in the south, pants were underwear. Now, that I'm up north, it seems that they have both that meaning and the American one.

Same with the word "Laugh".

Down south, it's "Larf", kinda.

Up here, it's nearer the American "Laff".

BTW, are you gonna answer my PM? ;)

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« Reply #95 on: January 25, 2012, 07:59:31 PM »
I heard a story of an Aussie bloke who was checking into an American hotel. As he received his room key, he told the sweet young thing behind the desk that, "I'd like to be knocked up at 6." :) He meant that he wanted a wake-up call at 0600, not...


I still remember a favorite rhyme from the kindergarten playground:

I see England,
I see France,
I see Sally's underpants!


Am: underpants/underwear/shorts/boxers/skivvies = Br: pants
Am: pants = Br: trousers

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« Reply #96 on: January 26, 2012, 06:54:32 AM »
Over here, we used to have professional "Knocker-ups", before the days of alarm clocks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knocker-up

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« Reply #97 on: February 26, 2012, 05:57:19 PM »
I'm converting right now!

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« Reply #98 on: April 18, 2012, 10:00:21 AM »
Simple Machines, the organization, will soon be sending Mr. K@ a short note reminding him, should he choose to distribute said fork, he must comply with the terms of the license agreement, and respects the SMF trademark :)
You should be aware that the Silverplated Manual Feeding apparatus company has trademarked both "fork" and "SMF".

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« Reply #99 on: April 18, 2012, 10:04:01 AM »
* Arantor thinks the subtlety of this thread being totally humorous got missed.

Both of the still on-going forks have methods for importing posts and members without loss.
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