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Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen:

--- Quote from: Road Rash on February 07, 2011, 09:25:11 PM ---You're all talking about 'updated features'. I quess you haven't figured it out yet. 2 gold will be based on what ever is available in RC4 with nothing new added.

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Not a fact - Speculation. Although 2.0 has been feature locked for a long time, small things have been worked on all the time, and along the road some of those things have ended up as small - yet for some, important - new features in the package. Also there have been bugs, security issues, team issues, legal issues, support and documentation to be worked on at the same time, so you can probably understand the team has actually had their hands full at times

--- Quote from: Road Rash on February 07, 2011, 09:25:11 PM ---In fact if what I've heard is true, this version has been in the works for about 5 years and there are no new features added period. The last 5 years have been spent fixing bugs and with the lack of dedicated 'volunteers' who know what it means to volunteer for something, Gold is not likely to happen anytime soon.

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Completely, utterly BS. 2.0 has been worked on for years, that's true - but at that time, ALL 2.0's new features have been introduced, Curve was introduced, and all the 2.0 bugs, and security issues that have emerged have been worked on, and the years gone by have really amounted to a lot of positive development in the end product. I can say this as an end user that has pretty much nothing to do with the development side... I've been using RC versions or Dev snapshots from around the time RC2 was released, on a big (Near 2M posts) board even.

--- Quote from: Road Rash on February 07, 2011, 09:25:11 PM ---Appearently they stilll have 15 bugs to fix and who knows when these 'volunteers' will find the time to fix them.

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If you are going to count bugs, then do count bugs killed as well - the tracker has been very active lately, and stuff is really happening fast these days.

Also, I simply hate the way you imply we don't know what volunteering means - I'm a volunteer, I do this because I wish to help people, I do this when I can - But that doesn't mean I'm dropping my job, social life, and family out of the picture to make you happy!

Road Rage, find another highway - how can you criticise something that is free and provided by volunteers? Go pay your troll tolls elsewhere and see if the road is any smoother.

Been using SMF 2 for two and a half years on a live site and upgraded at each release. Respect.

Cut the crap people. I'm damn sure that devs are doing their best. If you don't like it, go some place else. That's simple.

Lock this topic allready.


--- Quote from: Road Rash on February 07, 2011, 11:25:56 PM ---I haven't argued anything. I expressed an opinion, answered your questions, and asked for clarification in response to your comments.

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Actually..while it may seem a long time, remember that 2.0 was a major rewrite of 1.1. Taking a stable version and changing large parts of code, not to mention the entire set of templates, took a good deal of time, 1-2 years just on that. Unfortunately past events(which I do NOT agreed was for the benefit of SMF, although it WAS good that the team leadership were exchanged) also delayed things with at least a year more.

So your 5 years aren't really 5 years of real coding, more like 2-3 and the rest due to changing of team members, who had to re-learn the code, before they could create anything new. I can't find many members that was here when 2-0 was started, and that means the original "founders" of certain code parts are just gone.

I see nothing surprising about this time-frame in that light, and I am - as should you and others, RoadRash - glad that we now indeed have a stable 2.0, with just minor bugs left to correct. What the future holds, no-one knows. But its up to US if SMF is to survive, the team can't just operate on its own, nor will they stay on if you bully them further.

When have anyone ever done their best when getting scorn instead of praise..?

Road Rash Jr.:
My apologises to those who have taken my post out of context and feel they have been attacked in some way. Not the case.

I have nothing but praise and admiration for those who contribute productively to this great forum software. If I didn't think highly of it, I would not have invested my time in promoting it for the past few years.
It's all to easy to misinterpret the typed word, or it's intent.

I stand corrected on those points that clarified my misinterpretation of others posts and I thank you for that.


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