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Antechinus:

--- Quote from: butchs on August 05, 2012, 10:05:36 PM ---Yea, ego is the the reason for the demise of "main_block".
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Actually it isn't, but you just keep going, since you seem to be on a roll. :)

ETA: To address the other points..........


--- Quote from: butchs on August 05, 2012, 04:08:04 PM ---Hey you get to moan more than everyone else.  This time it is my turn:


* Why are you changing the "main_block.png" to "bars.png" and moving all the graphics around so that it is a time consuming PITA to guess at the format and make a new one?
* What's with all the "smalltext" in displaytemplate.php?
* I am sure there is more... :o

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1/ Because the image no longer has any point in its 2.0 form. The structure of the theme has been simplified by removing all of the spans that took up a large part of the old main_block image. The header and footer of the theme no longer need the massive chunks of graphics that made up more large parts of the old image. The rounded corners are all done with CSS3 now. Etc.

Bascially, there is no point in having the old image any more. Since a lot of people apparently found the old image confusing, both in terms of css and in terms of editing the actual image, getting rid of it is perhaps not a total disaster. Getting rid of it will also slightly reduce bandwidth usage, since the new images are a lot lighter. The number of http requests for images is not increased over 2.0, so cache times should still be good.

IF you are concerned about the actual name of the image being changed, I cannot really see why this would be problematic. However, if enough people think it is problematic then the image can be called anything at all.

2/ It's a leftover from 2.0.x. I assume you think it is equally disastrous in 2.0.x. You may be pleased to know that, since this is an alpha build, things are likely to be cleaned up a bit before the final build.

3/ It's alpha, and it still contains unnecessary leftovers from 2.0.x so yes, there is bound to be more. I already have a personal hit list of "more".

butchs:
Nope.  I was not happy with the mystery around "main_block.png".  The master file was not made public for some time after the release of 2.0.  I wasted a day making my own version for my forum.  I do not look forward a to repeat with "bars.png".

Antechinus:
Since it is a far simpler image, it's not a one day job. More like a ten minute job. The image that is in the repo now is actually quite a bit more complicated than the final version is going to be. I'd suggest chilling out. The PSD's for any 2.1 images will be available well before the final build.

And although I'd have to check all the old topics, IIRC the PSD for Curve was made public with RC2. It was certainly public long before the release of 2.0 Final.

Antechinus:
Hey dude, the PSD for the Curve main_block was publicly released here: http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=347195.0

You replied to that topic right here: http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=347195.msg2352841#msg2352841

Now, you were saying? :D

butchs:
Hey dude, the PSD was released WEEKS possibly months after the release of SMF gold.  Otherwise I would not have made my own!

The default theme psd was NOT released when gold was released and many had to go fish with the new psd file.  The dimensions were incorrect in your initial release and it did not work.  An actual release of the default theme PSD was really never made.  Therefore, I was forced to make my own...  Now I am pulling an "Arantor" because I remember the agony I went through...  Next, I will get a robot cat icon!

Then you will will listen...
 :o
I do not understand why no one could release the default theme psd when gold was released?  Instead it was a bug fat go fish.

Now I am on a roll...
 :P
I expect better this time around.   O:)  :laugh:

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