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Trimming down the SMF footer/copyright links

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Kindred:
officially and technically, it's not quite right. :P

However, since it does link back and note that it is developed from SMF, I imagine it would be up to the individual support members if you asked for support.

However, if you were looking for support and were obnoxious about asking for support, it would provide a valid reason to refuse support as well. :P

Arantor:

--- Quote ---officially and technically, it's not quite right.
--- End quote ---

Yes, I know that, hence asking ;) But does the footer really need three separate links (two of which to here) in it?

I actually think you'd get people more inclined to leave it in if it weren't three links - Wedge has two, and it's more clear about what the two links are - and there's actually site-specific stuff on the credits link (like staff members) as a reason to leave it in, as opposed to the two links here plus a less useful credits link.


--- Quote ---However, since it does link back and note that it is developed from SMF, I imagine it would be up to the individual support members if you asked for support.
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I think that's a valid viewpoint if it were someone else asking who might realistically need support.


--- Quote ---However, if you were looking for support and were obnoxious about asking for support, it would provide a valid reason to refuse support as well.
--- End quote ---

Quite true.

I guess I'm asking about something that is specific in my case but also that has a broader set of ramifications if a rule were to be enshrined at this point.

Kindred:
well, the credits link becomes much more useful with the cute little mod/edit by emanuele which loads all the mod credits into the credits page!   I haven't checked... but that might have made it into 2.1

the point about the two links is not actually the fact that there are two links, but that
a) it indicates that the site is (proudly) running SMF (version) (which links to the credits page, of course)
b) it indicates that SMF is (c) Simple Machines
the first link in here was used because the license change confused some folks
the second one, of course, is just gravy-linking back to the simplemachines domain.


So, the hard and fast rule (which, of course is not actually that hard and fast...) is that the unaltered copyright (the second portion) is required to be present in order to get support from the team. That may change or may be modified on an individual basis, depending on the alteration, the attitude (of both the requestor and the teamie) and the phase of the moon. :)

Arantor:

--- Quote ---well, the credits link becomes much more useful with the cute little mod/edit by emanuele which loads all the mod credits into the credits page!   I haven't checked... but that might have made it into 2.1
--- End quote ---

Well, there's a space for it in 2.0 but because it can't be used with edit conflicts (because there's no hook), it sort of is pointless. I know we made it easier in Wedge with a dedicated hook and I'd be surprised if SMF 2.1 didn't, to be honest, but I've even thought about not providing a hook and doing it based on the plugin registry setup we have, so that once you install a package, it automatically just adds it to the credits anyway.


--- Quote ---a) it indicates that the site is (proudly) running SMF (version) (which links to the credits page, of course)
b) it indicates that SMF is (c) Simple Machines
--- End quote ---

That would be fine if it weren't for the fact that there are three links in the footer:
1) the version link, which is also the credits link
2) the copyright link which includes the licence
3) the gravy link

The credits link is useless to me, anyone who is that bothered can find it out here (because everything else is just custom code, and heck, I'm already in the 2.x credits :P), which means I'm only really interested in the copyright link and the gravy link.

My wording to me indicates an awareness that it isn't run by sm.org, so I'm combining the two to still credit sm.org whilst removing the gravy link since I see no reason to link twice to this site every single page. I'd be more amenable to the credits link if it meant I wouldn't have to contend with a gravy link but that sort of put me off :/


--- Quote --- is that the unaltered copyright (the second portion) is required to be present in order to get support from the team
--- End quote ---

So you have to include both links to this site to get support? That seems a bit harsh (especially as the same ruling logically applies to the showcase board)

Kindred:
hey...    at least with BSD you can change it in the first place. :)


BTW: em's credit code change reads from the installed mod list in the database - no hooks - and it reads every mod, regardless of whether the author used the hook or not.

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