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[WIP/BETA] EU cookie law

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Arantor:
So what if there is this law in the UK? Makes no difference to them. My problem with this is your implementation, because I guarantee Google aren't going to change that policy of theirs to be able to 'accept' anything.

CircleDock:
This is what happens when ill-informed politicians, egged-on by privacy activists, enact legislation that is frankly unworkable. Feline has implemented the safe option to stop all cookies until the (human) visitor makes a conscious decision to accept them, but she's allowing search engines to carry-on as normal. That's a fairly logical and sensible thing to do. But because Google will penalise sites that show different content to spiders than a visitor can see, that site will be penalised. And since Google is one of the main offenders with regard to third-party cookies, that's simply crazy.

So we have two choices: Prevent access to everyone including spiders to prevent first and third-party cookies being set and not have our pages indexed at all; or, prevent human visitors accessing pages but allow spiders and risk being penalised by Google. Great. Thank you Denmark for such a well thought-out piece of legislation.

feline:
Well .. we have implemented this as option for users in UK and other country's the have a concrete ECL.
No body MUST enable this .. it's a option they protect the users PC for cookies they he will not accept.
A non modal version is not cookie secure specially if you have google ads in your content. And SMF itself it's also not cookie secure (as example guest votes) and without a session cookie not all works correct.

Arantor:
I know what you're saying and I appreciate that you've put in the time and effort to do so but what I'm saying is that doing it screws other things up and people need to be aware of that fact (and taking the decision you have to treat search engines differently is not a wise one - but as long as you're aware of the consequences in penalties for sites that use it, that's up to you)


--- Quote ---So we have two choices: Prevent access to everyone including spiders to prevent first and third-party cookies being set and not have our pages indexed at all; or, prevent human visitors accessing pages but allow spiders and risk being penalised by Google. Great. Thank you Denmark for such a well thought-out piece of legislation.
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Not really, no, we have other options.

We can avoid setting cookies and not issue anything to users pending agreement, or even not use cookies for guests whatsoever and not even start a session for them in the first place, which has other interesting aspects to it - but it does mean we have all sorts of choices ranging from strict to lax.

feline:
We have long time tested on this .. if you have a better solution for all the things, then let me known ...

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