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Nightwish:

--- Quote from: Jim Stone on May 03, 2012, 02:28:28 PM ---I was under the impression this was a Request for features area.

"Thumbs up / likes" are not for lazy people as implied, making things easier is usually a good thing and a welcomed addition by most people. "Thumbs up" serve a very useful purpose and they are used all over the Internet in every venue from Facebook to professional Forums to blogs and business sites, and on and on. To imply they serve no purpose is narrow minded.
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Just because something is "all over the place" doesn't make it useful and doesn't mean it serves a purpose.

For the record: I've implemented a "like system" in my SMF fork, just because I thought it was fun to do and to give people something to like. It's a bit like "panem et circenses" in ancient Roman culture - not necessarily a brilliant idea, but it serves at least one purpose: It makes people happy :)

Jim Stone:

--- Quote from: Nightwish on May 03, 2012, 03:12:06 PM ---For the record: I've implemented a "like system" in my SMF fork, just because I thought it was fun to do and to give people something to like. It's a bit like "panem et circenses" in ancient Roman culture - not necessarily a brilliant idea, but it serves at least one purpose: It makes people happy :)

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Makes sense. Obviously it is a feature you liked, or at least wanted to implement on your forum. Which "basically" is my point, that it is a feature that is useful and (generally speaking) desirable by most forum owners. The mods (such as they are) speak to that, but poorly.

Of course (as with everything) there are a minority of people who deem it redundant and denigrate its usefulness. I understand that. The problem is, they usually have the loudest voice and discourage meaningful points / counterpoints. Just saying it is for lazy people serves no purpose other than that intended. ??? It's not rocket science.


emanuele:

--- Quote from: Jim Stone on May 03, 2012, 02:28:28 PM ---I was under the impression this was a Request for features area.

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And (I hope) I'm free to comment these requests. Am I?

I wanted to understand what was useful for and I got an answer (more from numbers, I did my homework and I'm pretty confident they are a good representation of a real-world case) that's quite different from yours.

I'm not saying I'm against (I'm for sure not a person that would "veto" a decision), there are people that want it? There are people that want to code it? Feel free to submit the code. I'm not the one in charge of accepting it. :P


--- Quote from: Nightwish on May 03, 2012, 03:12:06 PM ---For the record: I've implemented a "like system" in my SMF fork, just because I thought it was fun to do and to give people something to like. It's a bit like "panem et circenses" in ancient Roman culture - not necessarily a brilliant idea, but it serves at least one purpose: It makes people happy :)

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That's basically the answer I obtained.
But I don't find it fun to code, so I'll leave it to someone else to code. :P

Kindred:

--- Quote from: Jim Stone on May 03, 2012, 03:35:02 PM ---Makes sense. Obviously it is a feature you liked, or at least wanted to implement on your forum. Which "basically" is my point, that it is a feature that is useful and (generally speaking) desirable by most forum owners. The mods (such as they are) speak to that, but poorly.

Of course (as with everything) there are a minority of people who deem it redundant and denigrate its usefulness. I understand that. The problem is, they usually have the loudest voice and discourage meaningful points / counterpoints. Just saying it is for lazy people serves no purpose other than that intended. ??? It's not rocket science.

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Well, I see it as part of my job to bring a touch of reality into the lives of self-interested folks. :P

but seriously, you claim that " it is a feature that is useful and (generally speaking) desirable by most forum owners"
proof?
The way the folks here usually judge that sort of thing is either by a ton of people chiming in on a request like this, or a mod of that feature being downloaded/installed over a large section of forums.  I actually don't see either one...

and yup... personally, I think that the "like" phenomenon encourages laziness. People are not commenting or contributing, but just clicking a button... it's not encouraging user ENGAGEMENT (actually, I would argue that it actually may DISCOURAGE it, since users will 90% of the time take the easiest (laziest) route)

On the other hand... no one has said that it WON'T be added....   the developers who commented actually asked WHY it should be added (reasons other than "I want it" or "such-and-such has it")

Norv:
Please lets keep the discussion nice.

I know there are mixed feelings about a few of these functionalities, "born" from social networks, which may or may not make sense for forums. There are clearly common grounds between social networking and community building software, and there are definitely specific targets and goals too.

This particular one has been requested for ages by our users. I tend to think it has come to the point where expectations of users, shapen up by their experience with many sites over the web (not only social networks, but also blogs and such), are reaching a critical mass or close to reaching it, for forums.

Just to be clear, however: we are extremely unlikely to consider it for SMF 2.1, which has a few new functionalities but it's mainly targeted at strictly necessary enhancements for 2.0 forums. While we may consider it for SMF 3.0, and please, feel free to add more thoughts and experiences on the matter.


What we should do - and I'll look into doing this - is to make an official mod available to the community on this, kept up to date for SMF 2.0/2.1. It would help knowing better how much interest there really is or continues to be. If you - those doing it already - wish to share yours, please feel free to do so, or point me to it if I missed it. The main requirement is only to be Open Licensed, while we may discuss others.


--- Quote from: emanuele on May 03, 2012, 03:36:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: Nightwish on May 03, 2012, 03:12:06 PM ---For the record: I've implemented a "like system" in my SMF fork, just because I thought it was fun to do and to give people something to like. It's a bit like "panem et circenses" in ancient Roman culture - not necessarily a brilliant idea, but it serves at least one purpose: It makes people happy :)

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That's basically the answer I obtained.

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I think this is true. It's not about I don't know what statistics or processing of 'liked' posts, it's mainly about a loose and relaxed wish to click once to express their agreement/interest and be happy they're able to.

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