Customizing SMF > Mod Requests
[PAID] Thread view (AKA tree view)
rbeuker:
--- Quote from: Kindred on July 28, 2011, 06:06:36 PM ---As several of us have already said - This is not a frequently or widely requested update.... So get someone to code it as a mod. If it becomes popular, it may be considered for addition to the base code.
(so, it is good that you posted in mod requests. :) )
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And who knows, in a few years... SMF could be the ONLY forum software that has this great feature. :) I have used SMF and its predecessor for years, and I love it! On a 1 to 10 scale, it's a 9.5 for me now. With thread/tree view, it'd be a 10. :D
--- Quote from: Kindred on July 28, 2011, 06:06:36 PM ---To elaborate on my statement about participation -
Yes, tree view discourages participation as a whole/community and encourages ONLY personally directed responses.
You have a whole bunch of side conversations between individuals rather than a common conversation chain.
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Ok, I see your point now. Have you read Bloc's reaction to that? He said:
--- Quote from: Bloc on July 28, 2011, 07:53:48 PM ---But usually the discussion DO tend to get in one-one, and often people doing one-of one with different people using quotes.
Threaded view isn't that far off then, its more like collecting the quotes in realtion to each other and showing only titles(as it must be to have a good "map".
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I must say that I totally agree to this. I find myself hitting the Quote button all the time, to make clear to whom I am replying about what. A little map would help me tremendously to filter who's discussing with whom. What's more, it'd help a lot if one could easily see whether someone's question (shown on page 1 of the topic) has already been answered (it could be on page 27!)
--- Quote from: Bloc on July 28, 2011, 07:53:48 PM ---I can't really see this a any kind of killer for participation, not when thats what we do right now anyway. If one replies in a general fashion, well, then the map show that too. Most importantly though, you could filter easier out what to keep reading.
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Right on! My point exactly. It really should be an additional feature that people could activate. Like a 'Show topic map' button, that could be enabled by default. By the way, I love your themes. :)
--- Quote from: Bloc on July 28, 2011, 07:53:48 PM ---For coding it/tempalting it I see that the "map" would need to fetched first, meaning getting titles and the "glue" between whats replied to, then one post which is what you want to read. Obstacle here is thats its more clicks back and forth..although a hybrid would be nice, that topic's posts are fetched/shown as now, but you select which main "branch" to show from a sidebar with the "map".
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I don't know if all the 'quotation back' links are created on the fly or read from a specific table, but maybe that information could be re-used for making the map? It's basically a parent child relation. Each child is shown under its parent. Preferably, the map should look better than my terrible graphic work. :D
Bloc:
Oh, I am not following this up in any way really - just laid out some ideas. But yes, a "parent" value for each post would be needed.
emanuele:
--- Quote from: rbeuker on August 07, 2011, 04:20:47 PM ---
--- Quote from: Bloc on July 28, 2011, 07:53:48 PM ---But usually the discussion DO tend to get in one-one, and often people doing one-of one with different people using quotes.
Threaded view isn't that far off then, its more like collecting the quotes in realtion to each other and showing only titles(as it must be to have a good "map".
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I must say that I totally agree to this. I find myself hitting the Quote button all the time, to make clear to whom I am replying about what. A little map would help me tremendously to filter who's discussing with whom. What's more, it'd help a lot if one could easily see whether someone's question (shown on page 1 of the topic) has already been answered (it could be on page 27!)
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I have a similar problem with threaded view (in emails): certain times "an" answer arrives just few seconds after the first reply, but for how the threaded view is organized I've to read for example a very deep branch (maybe even OT) that developed from the first reply just to reach the email with the answer I'm looking for... but it's also possible that it's just that I'm not used to thread topics. ;)
pss7:
threaded view would be the easiest way to get better forum topics within a thread and more search engine attention.
so it is a MUST feature for anybody who runs the forum as content catcher.
hopefully someone gets attention to this feature request, maybe we can do share the dev costs for it.
Kindred:
huh?
No, actually it's not.
How does threaded view have ANY SE benefit? Content is what the SEs look for, and threaded versus non-threaded does not change the content.
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