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Re: Statement regarding SOPA
« Reply #40 on: January 07, 2012, 02:54:42 AM »
I can't access anything Google right now, anyone else experiencing this. Arghh right in the middle of some Android development and can't even read the docs. :(

Google's working for me. Also see http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/google.com.


Ok, was just wondering because I thought it was odd that all Google services such as Google Search, Gmail, Plus, Youtube, aren't working and every other site on the web is that I normally visit.

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Re: Statement regarding SOPA
« Reply #41 on: January 07, 2012, 01:09:30 PM »
down with SOPA  >:(

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Re: Statement regarding SOPA
« Reply #42 on: January 07, 2012, 01:59:29 PM »
Ok, was just wondering because I thought it was odd that all Google services such as Google Search, Gmail, Plus, Youtube, aren't working and every other site on the web is that I normally visit.
Maybe you entered the Google Blackout Beta Testing program :D

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Re: Statement regarding SOPA
« Reply #43 on: January 07, 2012, 03:17:51 PM »
Ok, was just wondering because I thought it was odd that all Google services such as Google Search, Gmail, Plus, Youtube, aren't working and every other site on the web is that I normally visit.
Maybe you entered the Google Blackout Beta Testing program :D
You know I was on the last step of the document I was reading. I click the link nothing, so I had to quit what I was doing yesterday since I didn't know what to do next. Today all Google services are up for me, that was strange, maybe lol.

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Re: Statement regarding SOPA
« Reply #44 on: January 08, 2012, 08:51:57 AM »
Hello, people of Simple Machines!

I have been using your forum software for a long time and have not needed to register, but I was so willing to participate in this discussion. I am totally against SOPA in the current form and I think it can not pass. I have an idea: If someone would code a "Website blocked by SOPA" landing page, where it would tell that access to this site is blocked by the US Government. The page would have a link to a sub-page explaining SOPA and a link to the petition page. Let's have our own blackout like Facebook etc. are having.

Something like this article image on Gizmodo: hxxp://gizmodo.com/stop-sopa/



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Re: Statement regarding SOPA
« Reply #45 on: January 08, 2012, 11:52:03 AM »
Have you looked at americancensorship.org? :)
You can censor your website using their premade scripts.
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Re: Statement regarding SOPA
« Reply #46 on: January 08, 2012, 11:59:34 AM »
there is also a mod on modsite that does it :P
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Re: Statement regarding SOPA
« Reply #47 on: January 08, 2012, 12:21:04 PM »
Have you looked at americancensorship.org? :)
You can censor your website using their premade scripts.

I just did it myself since I did not want to use their code.

http://associationamerica.com

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Re: Statement regarding SOPA
« Reply #48 on: January 08, 2012, 12:44:13 PM »
Have you looked at americancensorship.org? :)
You can censor your website using their premade scripts.

Hey, CoreISP

Yeah, that is only a small logo cover. I was looking for something to pop up on peoples faces while they try to browse my site, that people must interact with to continue browsing, majority of the people on my site (a gaming clan forum) seem to be coming from USA (according to Google Analytics). I want them to sign the petition, since I know they don't want it, neither do I because if something like this goes through in a big country, something similar will go through in smaller countries, like where I live, it has happened before and it will happen again.

there is also a mod on modsite that does it :P

Hey, Runic

Your mod isn't quite what I am looking for  :)


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Re: Statement regarding SOPA
« Reply #49 on: January 08, 2012, 05:12:38 PM »
To me the biggest shocker in this bill is that it proposes convicting people of a crime without giving them their day in court. Prosecuted and sentenced with NO court date at all. You are just guilty if the government or even a private 3rd party says that you are and you have no say from there. That is the most un-American and unconstitutional piece of legislation I have ever seen. One of the most basic tenets of our government is that you are innocent until proven guilty and this bill doesn't even try to pretend that is true.

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Re: Statement regarding SOPA
« Reply #50 on: January 08, 2012, 05:19:46 PM »
Indeed. The US government has been making way too many moves towards totalitarianism for quite some time. A large percentage of everyday people are too busy worrying about what Britney Spears or Lindsay Lohan is up to to pay attention to, or even care what the government is doing.  Pop culture is too materialistic and celebrity dazed to see their very lifestyles being stripped away one right at a time.
It is time for America to wake up before we do find ourselves in a Soviet era Stalinist atmosphere.

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Re: Statement regarding SOPA
« Reply #51 on: January 08, 2012, 05:25:46 PM »
For those who vote: http://www.sopaopera.org/
A good information reference of our elected officials stance on sopa.

Its sad to only see one of my states official has made a stance, but its good to see that it was made against this.  Need to get the other officials to speak out as well.
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Re: Statement regarding SOPA
« Reply #52 on: January 08, 2012, 05:30:26 PM »
Why isn't the public even getting to vote on this legislation? People don't like crime. If they truly saw this bill as a positive crime buster they'd be in favour of it.

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Re: Statement regarding SOPA
« Reply #53 on: January 08, 2012, 05:39:44 PM »
Why isn't the public even getting to vote on this legislation? People don't like crime. If they truly saw this bill as a positive crime buster they'd be in favour of it.

Because it's not a positive crime buster, and to be honest I think the public being given a vote would make it worse because they would be manipulated into thinking it was about busting crime - which it isn't.
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Re: Statement regarding SOPA
« Reply #54 on: January 08, 2012, 05:42:44 PM »
Because number one: The government always thinks that they know better than us what is best for us- NannyState mentality.
Number two- It is backed by greed and corruption - the big media goons with deep pockets funding political campaigns.

Our elected officials are elected in the supposed position of looking out for our needs, but the sad reality is that they look after the wants of whoever has the big bucks. The only exception is when there is a loud enough public outcry supported by extreme media coverage to get their attention.

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Re: Statement regarding SOPA
« Reply #55 on: January 08, 2012, 06:27:04 PM »
SOPA sucks. It will not only ruin friendships, but it will also have an impact on the education of pupils. Why? Let's say I need to search something for school. I am having a presentation about WW2 in a few weeks. Now it will only take a few seconds to get what I need. When SOPA will be a law, I can't find information. Not only me. No one can get information anymore. That's why SOPA just sucks. When SOPA is a law, I'm gone from the internet.

Please, if you haven't signed the anti SOPA form yey, please do it now. Stop internet censoring. Save the internet.
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Re: Statement regarding SOPA
« Reply #56 on: January 08, 2012, 06:42:33 PM »
I wouldn't exaggerate like that. In the event that SOPA passes and is used in all the ways that we fear it will be, the solution for those of us in Europe is quite straightforward: we just carry out - it just means we're going to be concentrating on European specific stuff rather than catering to European/American concerns.

Put it this way, if it were to happen, I could fully envisage Wikipedia starting up a European based server (if they don't have one already) in the .eu or similar domain, where the US has no real jurisdiction.

That's the beauty of the internet: it's fully designed to reroute around blockages. What will happen is that the US will be considered a separate internet to the rest of us, and the consequences of that are still beyond thinkable, but not insurmountable.

Also, the other question: if this is a best hope for the parties trying to push it through, what's their fallback position?
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Re: Statement regarding SOPA
« Reply #57 on: January 08, 2012, 09:17:57 PM »
It will not stop the internet. It will not stop piracy {China with its firewall has major piracy issues} it will not stop access to sites the government doesn't want you to see.

What it will do is turn America into even more of a police state.

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Re: Statement regarding SOPA
« Reply #58 on: January 08, 2012, 11:39:34 PM »
TL;DR: it will cripple the internet, free speech and free choice throughout the world

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Re: Statement regarding SOPA
« Reply #59 on: January 08, 2012, 11:51:42 PM »
should be interesting how it turns out in Spain since they just passed a very similar bill:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/jan/05/us-pressured-spain-online-piracy
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