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Title: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Oldiesmann on July 16, 2015, 05:45:30 PM
Dear Users,

Simple Machines is proud to announce the release of the 2nd beta of SMF 2.1. This version contains many improvements over Beta 1 and also fixes many bugs that were discovered following its release. Among the notable improvements:

For full details of what has changed, please see our GitHub archive (http://github.com/SimpleMachines/SMF2.1).

Please remember that the minimum requirements of SMF have been increased to PHP 5.3.8+ and MySQL 5.0.3+ or PostgresSQL 8.0+. Servers running a lower version of either will not be able to run SMF 2.1 and we do not intend to support them. If you have a server running an older version, you can either upgrade your server software or stay at an older version of SMF. SMF 2.1 has also dropped support for IE6 and IE7 but will continue to work with IE9+ (although IE10+ is really recommended) and browsers having similar/fuller standards compliance (any modern version of Chrome, Safari, Firefox, Opera etc will be fine).

The general installation and upgrading procedure remains the same, however, once you upgrade from an older version to 2.1 you cannot go back, so please take careful consideration before upgrading any live site.. Have a look at Installing and Upgrading SMF (http://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/Category:Installing_and_Upgrading) in the Online Manual to find out more. You cannot upgrade to 2.1 Beta 2 via the package manager; instead you will need to carry out the "Large Upgrade" process. SMF 2.1 can be obtained from the Download section (http://download.simplemachines.org/).

Please note: Because this is a beta release, translations and language strings other than English have not been finalized and may not be complete yet.

Finally, as always, this topic is not for support; discussion and support for 2.1 can be found in the new 2.1 support board (http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?board=254.0).
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Looking on July 16, 2015, 05:58:28 PM
Good choice for storage engine.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Steve on July 16, 2015, 05:59:08 PM
Awesome. Kudos to everyone involved. ;D

... this topic is not for support...

The only way you won't get support questions is if you lock the thread but then you (and the rest of the team) wouldn't get all the thanks you rightfully deserve. :)
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Night09 on July 16, 2015, 06:47:08 PM
Just got home from work and saw this good news! ;)
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Kryzen on July 16, 2015, 07:06:53 PM
Just got home from work and saw this good news! ;)
That makes two of us. :)

Fantastic news, great work and thank you!
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: CoreISP on July 16, 2015, 08:40:56 PM
Good job, thanks! :)
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: TomW on July 16, 2015, 09:43:15 PM
Excellent !  I can't wait for Beta 3 now  ;)
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Sido on July 16, 2015, 09:53:50 PM
Just got home from work and saw this good news! ;)
I'm at work and saw this good news 📰 :D
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Bigguy on July 16, 2015, 09:55:01 PM
Awesome work everyone. Great to see.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: jaideejung007 on July 16, 2015, 10:11:54 PM
Beta 2 is WAITING A LONG TIME.

Great news.

And hope for FINALLY VERSION IN Shortly.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Kindred on July 16, 2015, 10:21:01 PM
There will be at least one more beta release...
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Rumpa on July 16, 2015, 10:37:46 PM
Nice work again
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: OCJ on July 17, 2015, 12:43:49 AM
Nice to see things moving.

Are all the 2.1 Beta 1 bugs fixed? I still see 129 issues on GitHub. It was around 126 for quite a long time.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Joomlamz on July 17, 2015, 12:50:46 AM
Nice work again
Thank you
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: iMiKK on July 17, 2015, 02:20:42 AM
thank you for SMF development team.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: mertusta on July 17, 2015, 02:42:17 AM
Great work guys, thanks a lot.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: sǝๅqɯɐɥS on July 17, 2015, 03:26:18 AM
Fine effort.


Quote from: Oldiesmann
... You cannot upgrade to 2.1 Beta 1 via the package manager ...
Shouldn't that say "2.1 Beta 2"?
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: gisfreak on July 17, 2015, 04:29:34 AM
congratulation Devs
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: live627 on July 17, 2015, 05:48:58 AM
Quote from: Oldiesmann
... You cannot upgrade to 2.1 Beta 1 via the package manager ...
Shouldn't that say "2.1 Beta 2"?
yes

fixed
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: GravuTrad on July 17, 2015, 10:51:51 AM
Great news
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: charlottezweb on July 17, 2015, 05:00:11 PM
Very cool - thanks!!
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: saosangmo on July 17, 2015, 05:15:23 PM
Great news. Just installed and translate into Vietnamese
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: 青山 素子 on July 17, 2015, 05:17:48 PM
Great to see.

If you're still using RHEL 6 or CentOS 6, you can use the php54, php55u, or php56u packages from the IUS Community (http://iuscommunity.org/) repository. If you're using RHEL 5 or CentOS 5, there are also php54 packages at the same, but you really should be looking to update your core OS soon.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: HDB on July 17, 2015, 09:35:39 PM
Thanks for the constant innovation that you bring to the forum world.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: CountryLady on July 18, 2015, 01:30:25 AM
:D Fantastic News...

Thanks so much to all the SMF 2.1 Team~!
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Alpay on July 18, 2015, 07:18:11 AM
Great news^^ good job
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Mstcool on July 18, 2015, 09:28:37 AM
Woot woot :D
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Antes on July 18, 2015, 09:46:39 AM
Nice :)
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Hey Arnold! on July 19, 2015, 11:05:09 AM
Beta 3 next year and RC 1 next year, RC 2 and RC 3 to 2017, release stable to 2018, long time in SMF.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Westwegoman on July 19, 2015, 12:35:49 PM
Beta 3 next year and RC 1 next year, RC 2 and RC 3 to 2017, release stable to 2018, long time in SMF.
Kinda hard on the team, eh?
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Sudhakar Arjunan on July 19, 2015, 04:00:24 PM
Good to go.

Lets upgrade tomorrow.

Thank you team & Oldiesmann too.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Night09 on July 19, 2015, 04:27:52 PM
Beta 3 next year and RC 1 next year, RC 2 and RC 3 to 2017, release stable to 2018, long time in SMF.

Sorry, I cant seem to find your list of bug reports and fixes on github that contibute to SMF being able to release by tommorow to keep you happy. ;)

Your welcome to help or wait just like anyone else or use another software if you dont want to wait.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: JBlaze on July 19, 2015, 04:31:38 PM
Congrats to everyone involved, and thanks to the community for reporting bugs and suggesting fixes :)
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Lithtech on July 19, 2015, 07:30:27 PM
Awesome, cannot wait for the 'final release'
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: stmaxx on July 20, 2015, 07:35:53 PM
Thank you and I updated my test site and upgrade went well, no issues with the SMF.

again thanks and it a good sign for me!

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Colin on July 20, 2015, 09:20:31 PM
Wahoo, thanks folks.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: stmaxx on July 21, 2015, 07:48:58 AM
Today I updated my theme site, SMF 2.0.10 to the SMF 2.1 Beta 2 and all went very good as far as installation, and It's cool that it does show old themes, so no one try to install them, Our portal installed without issue and works well on this, and I'll be working other tests shortly>!

So far Very Nice Job!

And the Core2 theme is nice also!

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Illori on July 21, 2015, 08:02:24 AM
And the Core2 theme is nice also!

it is named Curve2 not core2.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: stmaxx on July 21, 2015, 10:09:35 AM
Cool My Bad!
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Ricky. on July 21, 2015, 01:39:06 PM
Thanks really nice to know .. :)
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: BigMike on July 21, 2015, 02:32:06 PM
More GREAT news from SMF. Thank you to everyone's hard work, we cannot WAIT for the new forum to be released!

Thank you times eleventy bazillion!

Regards,
BigMike
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Bigguy on July 22, 2015, 05:51:39 PM
Beta 2 was released on my birthday....cool. Nice work everyone. :)

(Just noticed that, lol)
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: live627 on July 22, 2015, 09:26:37 PM
Beta 2 was released on my birthday..
ohh, nice. Happy birthday, dude!
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: shawnb61 on July 22, 2015, 10:42:57 PM
Congrats!   Good job, team!
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Bigguy on July 22, 2015, 10:54:30 PM
Beta 2 was released on my birthday..
ohh, nice. Happy birthday, dude!

Excellent present for sure. :)
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: mehrtadbir on July 23, 2015, 04:04:24 PM
You're perfect.
I'm waiting for the next release.

Beta 2 was released on my birthday....cool. Nice work everyone. :)

(Just noticed that, lol)

happy birthday Bigguy
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Bigguy on July 23, 2015, 05:19:51 PM
Thank you. :)
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: a10 on July 25, 2015, 06:47:37 AM
Thanks for the hard work. Easy and troublefree upgrade from 2.0.1 (test-) forum. Things seems to work very well.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: FragaCampos on July 25, 2015, 08:07:32 PM
Thanks to all of those involved in this step forward for our beloved SMF!
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: stmaxx on August 04, 2015, 08:05:41 AM
Not suggesting, Just saying that, I'm using the Beta 2 on a live site, from the day after it's release, and no issues with the SMF 2.1 Beta 2 as of now! ( same goes for my test sites!

Note this is still not recommended! I just like test stuff! :)

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: cpf on August 04, 2015, 04:54:42 PM
I'm thinking I might roll this out to my site.  We get a lot of traffic, but sounds like it might be ready!
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: CountryLady on August 04, 2015, 05:00:45 PM
       :o  ~sigh~  ::)

     Here we go again.....   
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: stmaxx on August 04, 2015, 05:11:41 PM
I'm thinking I might roll this out to my site.  We get a lot of traffic, but sounds like it might be ready!

I would not ... The mods are not comparable yet, and you may not get your stuff back once you go forward, unless you really know what your doing!

Just saying what I did. period!~

regards,
maxx
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: margarett on August 04, 2015, 05:14:17 PM
but sounds like it might be ready!
Trust us, it isn't. Although there are no (known) issues with security, there are features which are bit broken.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: 青山 素子 on August 05, 2015, 07:30:20 PM
I'm thinking I might roll this out to my site.  We get a lot of traffic, but sounds like it might be ready!

While it might be workable, it's still a bad idea unless you're very experienced in coding. While we can't stop you from doing as you wish, remember that the beta is experimental. It may have data loss bugs, security bugs, cause high server loads, or any of many other things. As it's a beta, it will certainly have broken or rough features and there is no active support for people using it on live sites.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: TomW on August 07, 2015, 10:08:39 AM
but sounds like it might be ready!
Trust us, it isn't. Although there are no (known) issues with security, there are features which are bit broken.

Are all of the issues documented in GIT ?  Or is there another list of defects not available to the public ?  Just curious.

I agree that one should not use a Beta product unless it's for a test site; that is what the Beta designation represents.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: margarett on August 07, 2015, 10:34:11 AM
Everything that is known is in GH or in the "Bug reports" board ;)
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: smackcrmaddons on August 24, 2015, 01:43:33 AM
Great Work , Thank you
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: KnownSyntax on August 27, 2015, 01:49:56 AM
I LOVE the fact that you guys have included an optional 2 factor authentication, it's something that no one else is even doing by default which honestly I feel like it should be included in all modern software now a days. 

Keep up the great work, I can't wait to see this fully released once it's ready!
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Thijs.w on August 31, 2015, 12:15:17 PM
Is it already clearly when the official release will be finished? :P
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Kindred on August 31, 2015, 12:16:36 PM
The CLEARLY STATED release -- as always is : When it is ready.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Thijs.w on August 31, 2015, 02:08:42 PM
The CLEARLY STATED release -- as always is : When it is ready.

I understand that of course, but I want to make a own theme I think.  :laugh: (To use for a own forum later too.) Can I start with it now, or is this a bit early and can I better chose 2.0?
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Illori on August 31, 2015, 02:11:27 PM
we cant tell you what or how many changes may be coming for the theme if any. you would be best to stick with 2.0 for now.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Kindred on August 31, 2015, 02:53:21 PM
As stated: The current release is still in BETA.  There *WILL* be changes to code in both Sources files and Theme/templates.  So, you can practice making a theme, but it is very likely that any work that you do for a beta will have to be redone for the next beta and/or the RC versions.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Antes on September 01, 2015, 06:09:06 AM
One thing I can tell to you, you can't use SMF 2.0 themes in 2.1. So unless you know diff to master don't start creating themes for 2.1
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: BryanD on September 04, 2015, 05:15:08 PM
next release will be the day after I invent a time machine!
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: GrCOTE7 on September 04, 2015, 05:46:47 PM
Yes... Go on ! We're waiting for you...

Bravos !

@++
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Antes on September 04, 2015, 06:19:13 PM
Yes... Go on ! We're waiting for you...

Bravos !

@++

lol.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Wellwisher on September 04, 2015, 10:23:15 PM
I just upgraded from 2.0 to this version on my local (very easy process thanks to your upgrade tool) and I am just blown away by how sexy and well thought of things are. I was able to understand using 2.1 almost instantly compared to my first time with 2.0. The placement of things just make sense in this version. I love the theme too, my god it's so sexy. We're also talking big improvements to usability. Massive thought has gone into member interaction which will enable users to communicate better. Happy members means it's will help generate member growth. Just a beautiful, powerful advance cms Devs. Congrats. Windows 95 was smf 2.0 but now 2.1 is a huge leap forward, we're talking windows XP baby! and its how things are meant to be.

I can't wait for the actual release so i can start moding the theme! Awesome work devs, 2.1 is the way forward. In fact, I will buy a t-shirt saying that in a form of a donation. xD Congrats and thank you.




Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Ricky. on September 09, 2015, 03:05:30 PM
next release will be the day after I invent a time machine!

:) :) :)
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Antechinus on September 09, 2015, 09:36:23 PM
I just upgraded from 2.0 to this version on my local (very easy process thanks to your upgrade tool) and I am just blown away by how sexy and well thought of things are. I was able to understand using 2.1 almost instantly compared to my first time with 2.0. The placement of things just make sense in this version. I love the theme too, my god it's so sexy.

It'll look even better if you scoot down to Line 3743 of index.css and change the linear-gradient from "to bottom" to "to top". ;)
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Teru Mikami on September 13, 2015, 06:21:45 PM
Hi....
I'm using it in my forum www.ajayu.org
I know... "not in production" but... well

How I can help u to test? xDU

www.ajayu.org
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: margarett on September 13, 2015, 06:29:22 PM
Just use it ;) And report any issues you encounter.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: smackcrmaddons on September 15, 2015, 06:21:53 AM
Waiting for next release. :)
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: stefan357965 on September 15, 2015, 07:34:53 AM
Great news, keep going!  :D
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: un0mic on September 15, 2015, 04:25:58 PM
so will the upgrade kill my mods?
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Antes on September 15, 2015, 04:36:38 PM
so will the upgrade kill my mods?

Yeap.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Steve on September 15, 2015, 05:24:19 PM
And your themes.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Thijs.w on September 16, 2015, 11:25:07 AM
so will the upgrade kill my mods?

Yeap.

Why? Is 2.1 a full new system?  :-\
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Antes on September 16, 2015, 11:43:53 AM
so will the upgrade kill my mods?

Yeap.

Why? Is 2.1 a full new system?  :-\

Its a major release, lots of changes with database changes so you can't just patch your current running software to bring it up to date.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Kindred on September 16, 2015, 12:08:19 PM
mods, in general, do not port across major release versions.
themes never do  (far too many template changes)
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: 青山 素子 on September 16, 2015, 12:31:41 PM
Why? Is 2.1 a full new system?  :-\

Although not "full new", we generally don't guarantee modification or theme compatibility across different editions. The changes made in 2.1 to modernize things have made it especially prone to compatibility issues.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Wellwisher on September 21, 2015, 08:10:37 AM
Why? Is 2.1 a full new system?  :-\

Although not "full new", we generally don't guarantee modification or theme compatibility across different editions. The changes made in 2.1 to modernize things have made it especially prone to compatibility issues.

It's true, but with that said, I found converting my 2.0 theme to 2.1 was pretty simple on my local. The javascript, css and basically any file you need from external sources can be linked in your theme index file just like in 2.0. I also found quite a lot of features I needed from 2.0 mods were now in 2.1! Such as the "like" and the @mentions system - which is awesome with added features and the likes shows in the stats page!

All I REALLY need now is a sidebar with blocks; tinyportal is already working on one and SP with its loyal users should have one built too.

The menu/ navigation system in 2.1 is also more or less the same which meant I had my original drop down nav with font awesome working too!
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: vbgamer45 on September 21, 2015, 09:47:40 AM
Quote
All I REALLY need now is a sidebar with blocks; tinyportal is already working on one and SP with its loyal users should have one built too.
I have ezPortal ready to go for SMF 2.1 Beta 2 and you could make a sidebar with it.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: feline on September 22, 2015, 08:43:28 AM
PortaMx have released a Portal version for the last SMF 2.1 Github release ..
Look at http://virgo.portamx.com (http://virgo.portamx.com)  .. you can download this release on Github
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: ValveSales on September 22, 2015, 08:09:21 PM
Great News!!!
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Wellwisher on September 23, 2015, 06:37:13 AM
@vbgamer45 and @feline great stuff devs, thank you for relpying with a solution for a sidebar in 2.1. I feel there needs to be a section on SMF site where Devs can release their beta 2.1 mods for public testing.

Thank you, I will be testing out every single portal/ sidebar blocks mod for 2.1. I don't want to be stuck with SimplePortal since it's .JS heavy.

Which ever portal/ sidebar mod intergrates with my 2.1 theme nicely and gives me the fastest result on Pingdom (http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/)'s website speed test and Also has a feature where some blocks either display or do not display in certian boards e.g Ads. is the one which I will use
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Kindred on September 23, 2015, 07:39:18 AM
this conversation on mods/portals is getting off topic......
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: spookieman on September 26, 2015, 02:46:01 AM
I love it, looks awesome.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: TrIn@dOr on October 01, 2015, 09:08:32 AM
demo?
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: feline on October 01, 2015, 10:01:24 AM
demo?
for what ? 🐱
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Kindred on October 01, 2015, 10:16:41 AM
there are dozens of demo and test sites for 2.1 -- but your best bet would be to set a test site up for yourself, since none of the demos are going to let you have access to the admin side of things
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: mtscoffee101 on October 03, 2015, 12:05:22 PM
Nice.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Fussilet on October 07, 2015, 08:41:27 PM
good job, congrats


-edit- Spamvertised link removed.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Apostaganha on October 11, 2015, 05:06:43 PM
cant upgrade, stuck on Messenger fields with the message:

Server has not responded for 30 seconds. It may be worth waiting a little longer or otherwise please click here to try this step again

for hours, huge forum.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Kindred on October 12, 2015, 01:45:30 AM
well, first and foremost...   this thread is not for support
second...  you should not be using a beta version on a live site
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: margarett on October 12, 2015, 03:50:08 AM
Please post further details in Install and Upgrade board. I've seen that happening before but was never really able to track it.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: cpf on October 22, 2015, 12:26:29 AM
I'm thinking I might roll this out to my site.  We get a lot of traffic, but sounds like it might be ready!

I would not ... The mods are not comparable yet, and you may not get your stuff back once you go forward, unless you really know what your doing!

Just saying what I did. period!~

regards,
maxx

Noted!  Thanks.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: cpf on October 22, 2015, 12:29:15 AM
I'm thinking I might roll this out to my site.  We get a lot of traffic, but sounds like it might be ready!

While it might be workable, it's still a bad idea unless you're very experienced in coding. While we can't stop you from doing as you wish, remember that the beta is experimental. It may have data loss bugs, security bugs, cause high server loads, or any of many other things. As it's a beta, it will certainly have broken or rough features and there is no active support for people using it on live sites.

I watched the movie "Wargames" at least 48 times, so I'm pretty sure I know what I'm doing.

I'll hold off if you guys think it still needs a little more fixin'...
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: 青山 素子 on October 22, 2015, 12:53:28 PM
I'll hold off if you guys think it still needs a little more fixin'...

By all means, test the heck out of it on a copy of your site. Find bugs and report them. It is highly discouraged to run it as a live "production" setup though, as there my be data-loss bugs, security flaws, or just plain old stability bugs still lurking around.

We really do want people using the beta, but not depending on it. The more people that can test, the more likely all the nasty bugs will be found quicker.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: cpf on October 23, 2015, 12:12:29 AM
I'll hold off if you guys think it still needs a little more fixin'...

By all means, test the heck out of it on a copy of your site. Find bugs and report them. It is highly discouraged to run it as a live "production" setup though, as there my be data-loss bugs, security flaws, or just plain old stability bugs still lurking around.

We really do want people using the beta, but not depending on it. The more people that can test, the more likely all the nasty bugs will be found quicker.

Thank you, but it's a pretty busy forum.  I'll hold out for the next release.

Can you kindly point me in the right direction to post some features we would need for extensions?
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: abenmariem on October 26, 2015, 10:27:39 AM
Thank you for the post.
What are the new features ?
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Steve on October 26, 2015, 01:09:59 PM
Did you read the first post?

Quote
For full details of what has changed, please see our GitHub archive (http://github.com/SimpleMachines/SMF2.1).

;)
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: SamRudd on November 06, 2015, 07:18:18 PM
hi guys,

uploaded the large upgrade package to my test site. went to run it and got this error.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/tqy3egkr0tulnqr/Screenshot%202015-11-07%2000.16.45.png?dl=0

Updating Your SMF Install!
The MySQL user you have set in Settings.php does not have proper privileges.

Please ask your host to give this user the ALTER, CREATE, and DROP privileges.

Click here to try again.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: 青山 素子 on November 06, 2015, 08:40:06 PM
SamRudd:
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: baolong001 on November 08, 2015, 04:32:15 AM
Excellent !  I can't wait for Beta 3 now.!!!
Title: HELP
Post by: queenvic on November 09, 2015, 09:54:16 PM
Can someone help me?  i am a complete newbie.  i'd appreciate even the tiniest info.
thanks!
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Bigguy on November 09, 2015, 10:47:31 PM
If your this new, maybe looking at the wiki would help more than posting here. :)

Installing,  Upgrading,  and Converting (http://wiki.simplemachines.orgmain0)
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: stmaxx on November 13, 2015, 12:36:52 PM
Yes and you may also find, some visual aids on U tube, search for "How to SMF"

regards,
Maxx
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: butchs on November 14, 2015, 08:27:06 PM
Just popping in to see the status.  I am debating upgrading some mods but I hate to do it if the release is still a while away?
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Steve on November 14, 2015, 08:30:51 PM
Timeframes are not given for releases. The stock answer is that it will be released when it's ready. Search this thread or the forum and you can see how many times this has been the case. Since it's only in Beta2, you can wager it's going to be awhile. :)
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: butchs on November 16, 2015, 06:59:21 PM
That is good enough for now...
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: allpar on November 17, 2015, 10:53:02 AM
I am just happy to see SMF is still under active development. I am in no hurry to upgrade and will probably be one of those annoying people who waits for 2.1.2 or some such... there IS a way to opt out of InnoDB, right?
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: PaulKet on February 09, 2016, 05:14:40 PM
It's been almost 7 months since the last beta release, will another one be coming soon?
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Kindred on February 09, 2016, 09:17:21 PM
When it is ready
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: PaulKet on February 10, 2016, 08:15:44 AM
When it is ready

So we should assume that you're not even close to the next release after 7 months?

I want to use SMF 2.1 on something new but "When it is ready" tells me that I should be looking for something else.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Kindred on February 10, 2016, 09:16:07 AM
you should not assume anything.

we never give dates for releases...
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Illori on February 10, 2016, 09:19:55 AM
I want to use SMF 2.1 on something new but "When it is ready" tells me that I should be looking for something else.

we are not recommending anyone use SMF 2.1 on a production site anyway.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: PaulKet on February 10, 2016, 09:58:25 AM
we never give dates for releases...

Does anything exist that shows how much progress has been made toward the next beta release?
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: OCJ on February 10, 2016, 10:37:54 AM
You could look at the github site and the list of open bugs but as some are fixed, others are added. The number doesn't seem to go down much.

Like a kid waiting for Christmas and its only , er, February. Its going to feel like a long long time, and in reality it will be. I'm tired of waiting but there is no choice, unless you decide to convert to something else.  Release dates seem to be much longer apart this time.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: digger on February 11, 2016, 06:14:11 AM
Does anything exist that shows how much progress has been made toward the next beta release?
https://github.com/SimpleMachines/SMF2.1/milestones
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: vbgamer45 on February 11, 2016, 09:08:55 AM
Getting very close awesome!
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: PaulKet on February 11, 2016, 07:35:22 PM
Does anything exist that shows how much progress has been made toward the next beta release?
https://github.com/SimpleMachines/SMF2.1/milestones

Thank you Digger! That is appreciated very much.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Wellwisher on February 15, 2016, 08:05:01 AM
So after beta 3, SMF will be heading towards building an RC release right?
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Kindred on February 15, 2016, 08:28:08 AM
Assuming Beta3 is considered stable enough - yes
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: stmaxx on February 16, 2016, 10:45:20 AM
Just a Test ..upgraded to Beta 3 , no issues on test site site, love the new file image drag and drop, test good on the image part.

Thanks Guys and looking great and been testing the 2.1 sense it was first released and No complaints thus far. Good luck moving forward and again thanks!

Maxx
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: cpf on March 03, 2016, 07:38:46 PM
If we start using beta3 now, will there be an upgrade path to RC and 2.1?
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Kindred on March 03, 2016, 09:37:23 PM
No....
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: 青山 素子 on March 03, 2016, 09:52:34 PM
If we start using beta3 now, will there be an upgrade path to RC and 2.1?

Nothing official, but you're welcome to try and manage it manually yourself. Just know that there won't be support for this, so you're fully on your own.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: margarett on March 04, 2016, 05:00:37 AM
A note about this:
- The code upgrade from beta to beta or beta to RC implies loading all the files so that any modification is lost. Of course, if you use the "clean" 2.1 this should cause you no problems.
- The database upgrade (if there are database change to perform, if there aren't there is nothing to do) is not supposed to be handled automatically by the package. Nevertheless, we can provide you the queries which you can run manually in phpmyadmin.

Overall this shows why you shouldn't use a beta in production :P
RCs are a different story though. When it gets to RC the treatment will be different ;)
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: TomW on March 04, 2016, 10:17:19 AM
A note about this:
- The code upgrade from beta to beta or beta to RC implies loading all the files so that any modification is lost. Of course, if you use the "clean" 2.1 this should cause you no problems.
- The database upgrade (if there are database change to perform, if there aren't there is nothing to do) is not supposed to be handled automatically by the package. Nevertheless, we can provide you the queries which you can run manually in phpmyadmin.

Overall this shows why you shouldn't use a beta in production :P
RCs are a different story though. When it gets to RC the treatment will be different ;)

margarett, thanks this is very helpful.  Glad to hear that those of us performing our own tests on our servers will get assistance.   2.1 is looking great so far !
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Mstcool on March 04, 2016, 11:43:56 PM
What comes after the beta?
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Kindred on March 04, 2016, 11:57:08 PM
If the beta is determined to be mostly stable, then an relase candidate, aka RC version is made.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: PaulKet on March 05, 2016, 05:04:21 PM
Is beta 3 available for download somewhere?
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Kindred on March 05, 2016, 07:38:23 PM
no. beta 3 has not yet been released.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: N64dude on March 06, 2016, 07:17:16 AM
This is great guys, well done!
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: SaginawSkid on March 06, 2016, 08:03:19 AM
no. beta 3 has not yet been released.

I am a bit confused?

Just a Test ..upgraded to Beta 3 , no issues on test site site, love the new file image drag and drop, test good on the image part.

Thanks Guys and looking great and been testing the 2.1 sense it was first released and No complaints thus far. Good luck moving forward and again thanks!

Maxx
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Kindred on March 06, 2016, 08:13:23 AM
The "daily build" is available on Github for anyone to download/test.
However, beta 3 has not actually been released, and there are still a pile of issues which the devs are working on getting addressed before beta 3 is officially released as a distributed version.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: suhaneankit on March 15, 2016, 01:02:49 AM
:) Thanks for this great news. I have been using SMF since long time and now i am having too many customers on my forum.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Steve on March 15, 2016, 09:07:21 AM
Too many?  ???
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Irisado on April 19, 2016, 02:07:10 PM
The discussion about SMF progression has been split and moved to Chit Chat.  Let's stay on topic in this thread from now on please.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: f on April 21, 2016, 08:15:56 AM
hi there I have an smf board and accidently deleted admin user on 19th april. I now cannot administer the site. I do have access as a regular user but cannot do admin. I know nothing about php scripts or how to understand the tech notes on how to add a new administrator.
Is there an guide for dummys on how to fix my problem. thank u in advance to those that support a great tool
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: sǝๅqɯɐɥS on April 21, 2016, 08:41:03 AM
Finally, as always, this topic is not for support
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: feline on April 22, 2016, 07:11:44 AM
The discussion about SMF progression has been split and moved to Chit Chat.  Let's stay on topic in this thread from now on please.
Ahh .. thank you for removing my comments.
That let me see clear what SMF think and do about my Person ...
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Kindred on April 22, 2016, 07:28:17 AM
The comments were MOVED to a separate thread, since they were off topic for this announcement thread... not REmoved....
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Irisado on April 22, 2016, 07:50:49 AM
Ahh .. thank you for removing my comments.
That let me see clear what SMF think and do about my Person ...

I'll add to Kindred's response by even providing you a link to your comments, just to prove even further to you that they were not removed:

http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=545237.msg3870599#msg3870599
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: feline on April 22, 2016, 05:17:20 PM
The comments were MOVED to a separate thread, since they were off topic for this announcement thread... not REmoved....
yeah .. it's very helpfull if a link added to the move topics .. that's very good to think right ;)
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: CoreISP on April 22, 2016, 05:52:36 PM
Thank you for your suggestion Feline; we'll keep that in mind in the unfortunate event that a split is needed again in the future.
Have a good day :)
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: engrz on May 05, 2016, 04:57:50 AM
Great work, Appreciated

but if you can share screenshots for SMF 2.1 Beta or some demo url so that we can easily look the design and other features of new version.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Kindred on May 05, 2016, 06:50:36 AM
ummmm.... why don't you install the beta on a test site and look at it on your own? :)
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: engrz on May 06, 2016, 04:40:36 AM
Ok. i will try it on my server and i also try to share some screenshots of 2.1. :)
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: lomaalta on June 27, 2016, 02:53:32 AM
This looks very very very cool - thanks for all your hard work - now where are the themes and mods?   8)
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Gary on June 27, 2016, 03:06:41 AM
We don't recommend people create mods or themes for 2.1 just yet as things can change far too drastically at a moments notice.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Night09 on June 27, 2016, 01:15:50 PM
We don't recommend people create mods or themes for 2.1 just yet as things can change far too drastically at a moments notice.

Your not going to change the entire core at this stage I would imagine. Writers have been waiting patiently for eons.. Most of the stuff I wanted 2.1 for is in a past life now. :P
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: cpf on July 04, 2016, 04:17:58 PM
We don't recommend people create mods or themes for 2.1 just yet as things can change far too drastically at a moments notice.

Features?  Drastically?  We're coming up on a year of beta 2. 
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Arantor on July 05, 2016, 03:52:14 AM
And? I've been building a mod over that time and had to spend quite a bit of time on compatibility.

Things don't stabilise until an RC.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: SaginawSkid on July 05, 2016, 11:41:17 PM
I joined up less than a year ago in hopes to use 2.1 due to the flexibility of a responsive forum. Since I joined I know of eleven people from this site that have moved on to an alternate software. I am beginning to think it wasn't a bad idea.  ???
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Siirist on July 06, 2016, 12:35:05 AM
Grrrrr,

I grow weary of the whiners (someone that complains about a problem without offering encouragement, support, or a solution).

Version 2.1 will be ready when it is ready!
There are hundreds, no thousands of lines of code just in ONE template. 
Remember that this  software is FREE!! 
The staff VOLUNTEER their FREE (there's that word again) time to work on something that they will never get a cent for!!

If you chose to believe that there is something else out there that is better, INCLUDING FREE SUPPORT, than perhaps that may be your best choice.

I have been with SMF since ver. 1.3 (so long ago I don't remember what year it was), and my choice is to stand behind them, and all the sacrifices that they make of their personal time (that they could be spending with their wives and children, but instead spend it on SMF) to develop and/or support the FREE forum software.

Then they have some that are saying it is ready yet?  This ain't McDonalds!
Don't get me started about Bumping support topics, freaking wait 24 hours (it's only ONE day) before bumping.

You have to stand for something or (chances are) you'll fall for anything.

Regards,
Siirist
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Campanule on July 06, 2016, 02:26:36 PM
Hear, Hear, Siirist

I think you do a wonderful work all of you. And I am very happy with the version I use now. I really prefer things are thougth through and not just a quick not-working-solution

As always - please excuse my English  :)

Thanks ....
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Kindred on July 06, 2016, 02:28:45 PM
and that is why SMF 2.1 is still in beta....
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: BigMike on July 19, 2016, 11:26:35 AM
Thank you for all the hard work SMF. We know SMF 2.1.x is going to be AMAZING and because I currently do not have time to offer support, I will wait very patiently for the next generation of BY FAR AND WIDE my #1 favorite forum software.

I've only viewed this thread a couple times and I can't believe people complaining. If this is of any consolation to the SMF team, speaking as an officially registered SMF Big Forum now with over 1-million posts, there are literally millions of people who appreciate all you guys do for the open source community!!!!!

...that they could be spending with their wives and children...
Hey Siirist, so what about the female developers? :laugh: :laugh:

Regards,
BigMike
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: studentforums on July 21, 2016, 10:10:35 AM
Can we have a chat feature as part of core?
And a blog feature as part of core?
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Illori on July 21, 2016, 10:21:00 AM
Can we have a chat feature as part of core?
And a blog feature as part of core?

no and no.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: studentforums on July 21, 2016, 10:49:56 AM
Oh crap
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Arantor on July 21, 2016, 12:41:28 PM
They were never going to be, these do not benefit even a modest fraction of the user base and belong as mods for this reason.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: nend on July 21, 2016, 05:23:20 PM
Can we have a chat feature as part of core?
And a blog feature as part of core?
SMF (Simple Machines Forum) not SMC (Simple Machines Chat) or SMB (Simple Machines Blog).

I don't see it so far fetch in the future, hopefully with 3.0 the core can be separated from the forum. As for a chat extension being supplied by SM, I doubt. A blog extensions though wouldn't be out of the question.

However that is still a long ways in the future and I can't talk for the development team on features planned in any upcoming SMF version. 2.x will always be a forum, I'll guarantee it.  ;)
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: b33z on July 26, 2016, 04:13:03 PM
Very cool SMF Team! Thanks for the hard work!
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Irisado on August 05, 2016, 11:24:57 AM
Topic split and merged into SMF 2.1 Progression Discussion (http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=545237.msg3883216#msg3883216).  Please use that topic for debate and discussion about the release schedule, not this one.  Thank you.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: smartdaz9682 on August 07, 2016, 05:11:27 PM
Please for the love of god can you impliment horizontal in line thumbnails when photos are attached and finally get rid of the horrible vertical on top of eachother way thats been used up till now.

Monitors are wide now days. They can handle more than one thumbnail per line.  It was easy to change in every version up until this one by messing around with the display.template file which now seems to be impossible
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Illori on August 07, 2016, 06:17:12 PM
that has been added already to SMF 2.1.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Arantor on August 08, 2016, 01:56:24 AM
Monitors are very wide. Yet a lot of people use mobiles which aren't very wide...
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Kindred on August 08, 2016, 10:40:31 AM
and, actually, it is SIMPLE to do, even in 2.0.x with a simple CSS change -- not need to change the template at all
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: jlgreer1 on August 13, 2016, 10:34:13 PM
Great job SMF developers. SMF has always been one of the best.

Thank you,
Jeff
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: live627 on August 14, 2016, 01:18:07 AM
that has been added already to SMF 2.1.
I think he means the standard attachment display underneath the main post content.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: visor123 on September 18, 2016, 05:12:25 PM
When will the official release SMF 2.1 Beta 3?
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Illori on September 18, 2016, 06:32:15 PM
when it is ready.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: yesdude88 on November 07, 2016, 12:45:00 PM
Awesome! Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Yuvaraj06 on December 06, 2016, 03:34:44 AM
Great news. Well done
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: TomW on December 06, 2016, 09:19:34 AM
Is Beta 3 going to be released ?   I don't see any open issues in GIT pertaining to Beta 3.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Illori on December 06, 2016, 09:37:32 AM
when it is ready.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Antes on December 06, 2016, 09:40:10 AM
Is Beta 3 going to be released ?   I don't see any open issues in GIT pertaining to Beta 3.

Yes, it will be released but as a team policy we can't give a date to our users.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Colin on December 08, 2016, 12:42:44 PM
We are working on it. :)
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: TomW on December 09, 2016, 01:36:06 PM
We are working on it. :)
Is Beta 3 going to be released ?   I don't see any open issues in GIT pertaining to Beta 3.

Yes, it will be released but as a team policy we can't give a date to our users.

Thank you for the response.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: gisfreak on December 14, 2016, 01:34:32 AM
another Beta after beta 3? or Beta 3 is the last beta?
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: live627 on December 14, 2016, 02:45:56 AM
Is Beta 3 going to be released ?   I don't see any open issues in GIT pertaining to Beta 3.
Oh looky here https://github.com/SimpleMachines/SMF2.1/releases/tag/v2.1-beta.3
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Kindred on December 14, 2016, 09:04:26 AM
another Beta after beta 3? or Beta 3 is the last beta?

we'll see what issues are identified in the beta3 release.
We can't make an RC release until the issues are minor enough to be considered RC for the next release
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Antes on December 14, 2016, 09:05:47 AM
another Beta after beta 3? or Beta 3 is the last beta?

You can follow, planned versions here: https://github.com/SimpleMachines/SMF2.1/milestones
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: xeon365 on January 13, 2017, 10:35:40 AM
How goes 2.1 any good things in it?
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: d3vcho(); on January 13, 2017, 10:39:54 AM
How goes 2.1 any good things in it?

Differences between SMF 2.1 and SMF 2.0 (http://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/Differences_between_SMF_2.1_and_SMF_2.0)

Regards :)
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: DEK24 on February 21, 2017, 09:19:59 AM
Great work, Appreciated

but if you can share screenshots for SMF 2.1 Beta or some demo url so that we can easily look the design and other features of new version.

Does this exist? I would like to see too.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: br360 on February 21, 2017, 12:37:32 PM
Google SMF 2.1 demo and a few sites should pop up.

Here is one using 2.1 Beta 3- https://test2.turtleshellprod.com/
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: kubMCC on February 21, 2017, 08:41:10 PM
I tried 2V1 already and nothing was on the "old place" (i.e. Admin Center).
I did non find a way to get the "old look" back for our users.

How can I get 2V1 to show this view?

(https://gyazo.com/7a4f214b4355eecce7ded3df8617676a.png)

New functions are not always everything .... Users have to find themselfes in "use the new tool as the old one". They are not interested in "searching where might the old function be now". Sorry! Maybe I programmed industrial production lines for too many years and had to pay too much attention to the whishes of those users of their equipment.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Kindred on February 21, 2017, 09:07:51 PM
2.1 is changed. The theme has changed, some of the functionality is changed some of the layout is changed to suit the new functionality


That's the way things are.

There is no "use the old design" option for 2.1
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: sǝๅqɯɐɥS on February 22, 2017, 03:49:47 AM
Quote from: kubMCC
How can I get 2V1 to show this view?


Finally, as always, this topic is not for support

 ::)
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: kubMCC on February 24, 2017, 04:20:38 PM
2.1 is changed. The theme has changed, some of the functionality is changed some of the layout is changed to suit the new functionality


That's the way things are.

There is no "use the old design" option for 2.1

Too sad. Like "there is no way to get an old fashion 6er manual gearbox into your new BMW". Well, let's stay with the well known how to use Mercedes. ....

BTW: in this case (2V1 will never be or look like 2V0.xx) You should be fair and name it SMF 3.0, a complete new version. Would make the big difference clear to all "old satisfied with 2V0" users. Just my 2 cts.

Best regards and have fun in Karneval! de kub
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Arantor on February 24, 2017, 04:29:13 PM
But it's not a completely new version and calling it 3.0 is mispresentative.

2.1's theme is an evolution on top of 2.0's, so much so that it is literally called 'Curve 2'. I also suspect that someone will remake the 2.0 theme for 2.1 with all the goodies and shiny things like much improved mobile support (like 2.1 already has out of the box and that 2.0 can't do with its current theme)

2.1 is also built directly on top of 2.0, in a way that a 3.0 wouldn't be.

Though I find it interesting that the look is the only comment, and not any of the new features, like draft posting, or alerts, or new CAPTCHA to improve registration or... but that your only observation is how it doesn't look like something that was designed 10 years ago and was already out of date when it did finally appear in the first place.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: suhaneankit on February 26, 2017, 12:16:26 AM
Good to hear. Thanks for this release.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: engrz on February 27, 2017, 07:51:44 AM
any expected date for official release of 2.1?

really waiting for new release.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Illori on February 27, 2017, 08:00:29 AM
as a team policy we can't give a date to our users.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: cpf on February 28, 2017, 03:46:33 PM
But it's not a completely new version and calling it 3.0 is mispresentative.

2.1's theme is an evolution on top of 2.0's, so much so that it is literally called 'Curve 2'. I also suspect that someone will remake the 2.0 theme for 2.1 with all the goodies and shiny things like much improved mobile support (like 2.1 already has out of the box and that 2.0 can't do with its current theme)

2.1 is also built directly on top of 2.0, in a way that a 3.0 wouldn't be.

Though I find it interesting that the look is the only comment, and not any of the new features, like draft posting, or alerts, or new CAPTCHA to improve registration or... but that your only observation is how it doesn't look like something that was designed 10 years ago and was already out of date when it did finally appear in the first place.

I hope it's the Arantor CAPTCHA.  That completely killed my spam problem.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Arantor on February 28, 2017, 03:52:27 PM
Nope, 2.1 now includes reCAPTCHA, though it does also include some of the measures that were added to Misc Anti Spam and it also includes the multi-language/multi-answer Q&A features.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Antes on February 28, 2017, 04:47:41 PM
Multi language Q&A and reCAPTCHA added.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Arantor on February 28, 2017, 04:53:23 PM
I thought I already pointed this out? I know the multi-language Q&A is in 2.1, it has been for nearly 3 years. I also know my CAPTCHA isn't integrated, because it was never retooled for the changes in 2.1 e.g. the different fonts.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: kubMCC on March 01, 2017, 11:21:37 PM
But it's not a completely new version and calling it 3.0 is mispresentative.

2.1's theme is an evolution on top of 2.0's, so much so that it is literally called 'Curve 2'. I also suspect that someone will remake the 2.0 theme for 2.1 with all the goodies and shiny things like much improved mobile support (like 2.1 already has out of the box and that 2.0 can't do with its current theme)

2.1 is also built directly on top of 2.0, in a way that a 3.0 wouldn't be.

Though I find it interesting that the look is the only comment, and not any of the new features, like draft posting, or alerts, or new CAPTCHA to improve registration or... but that your only observation is how it doesn't look like something that was designed 10 years ago and was already out of date when it did finally appear in the first place.

Everything for Users is about LOOK.

"It's the same book, but we changed from black&white to colored pictures. So it is the same book. But, by the way, you have to read it from page bottom to page top."

For You, as developper, all the arguments may be right and You all are proud of what You got out at the end. But please, try also thinking a little bit as a "user since years"! If the "optic" / "surface" is completely different for the users (like MS Office 2003 to Office 2010), let us know that important point by giving it a new version number.

You and Your team grew up over the years with all the new features and optical changes.

We, the admins, have to live AND understand AND explain it to our longtime 1Vxx to 2Vxx clients within days. THEY, our users, have to find their way in the new design. Not YOU. You know it better than ..... Sorry.

You may be right, but I like my opinion better. (Du hast vielleicht Recht, aber meine Meinung gefällt mir besser)  :)

BTW: the differences in optic between 1Vx and 2Vx was ..... nearly nothing .....

Still best regards from GE, your sincerely kubMCC
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Kindred on March 02, 2017, 12:20:29 AM
And yet, you would be wrong, kubMCC...

as an admin or user, you don't get to pick the version numbers.
We use the versioning system which makes sense based on the code...
And 2.1 is closer to 2.0, code-wise, than 2.0 was to 1.1

(And, as proven time and time again...   opinion is fine, except when it is contradicted by fact... and fact always wins)
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Arantor on March 02, 2017, 02:49:17 AM
The difference visually between 1.0 to 1.1 was huge, 1.1 to 2.0 was huge. 2.0 to 2.1 was less huge for me.

And my experience of users is that once they realise there are new tools for them to post and new ways to work better with the forum, the visual change is far less of a problem.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: d3vcho(); on March 02, 2017, 10:02:46 AM
Well, do mind that 2.1 is responsive, so for thosee who now enter from mobile, will see a huge difference in functionability.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Shkic on March 26, 2017, 05:45:36 PM
Damn, it's tooking more than 1,5 years from BETA 2 to BETA 3. BETA!

Anyway, maybe someone can tell where people can see currently % how much till finish Beta3? I'm not asking for date.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Arantor on March 26, 2017, 06:46:08 PM
Given that the team has been adding features in recent times, it's really hard to say because they keep moving the target...
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: landyvlad on March 26, 2017, 10:23:29 PM
Anyway, maybe someone can tell where people can see currently % how much till finish Beta3? I'm not asking for date.

Date or % - that's the same question.
It's impossible to say precisely how far through a task is, as it is an evolving thing.

I'm not sure how often that has to be mentioned on this forum... but evidently several million times....
 
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Dylert on March 27, 2017, 01:41:02 AM
It's 1% left and it has been that for 1,5 month.
https://github.com/SimpleMachines/SMF2.1/milestones
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Arantor on March 27, 2017, 01:51:56 AM
It's 1% left and it has been that for 1,5 month.
https://github.com/SimpleMachines/SMF2.1/milestones

1% until the team decide to add something, you mean.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Dylert on March 27, 2017, 02:24:43 AM
Yes, a file was added 4 days ago and the status was 98%. That file was completed quickly. Now there's only one file and, quote "I am shooting to have this out next weekend. Sorry, external work has been a bit busier the past few weeks. Status: In Progress" (written 29/1 2017).
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Arantor on March 27, 2017, 02:55:46 AM
It's "99%" because there is only one issue outstanding out of 135 tagged as beta 3. Given the team keep changing their minds about what beta 3 entails... don't expect that to change.

At present rate, expect a gold release in 2020. When I predicted that in 2012, it seemed funny, five years on and it seems prophetic.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Colin on March 27, 2017, 03:10:46 AM
99.9%. We want to get our 2.0.14 first and then shipping Beta 3 is next in line. There has been a lot of good progress and we are nearly there. Hang tight.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Dylert on March 27, 2017, 04:03:46 AM
Thanks a lot for the great work you do! I love SMF 2.0.x and I will love 2.1! :)
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: MobileCS on March 27, 2017, 04:13:17 AM
99.9%. We want to get our 2.0.14 first and then shipping Beta 3 is next in line.

I'm happy to hear that - as it's getting very expensive for me to rent a second dedicated server to run my PHP 7 applications on.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: TomW on March 27, 2017, 10:29:46 AM
99.9%. We want to get our 2.0.14 first and then shipping Beta 3 is next in line. There has been a lot of good progress and we are nearly there. Hang tight.

Excellent news !  I'm anxious to get my forum to 2.0.14 also.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Dylert on March 27, 2017, 11:30:47 AM
Beta3 is now 100% complete: https://github.com/SimpleMachines/SMF2.1/milestones
Does that mean that it is finished and no issue will be added??
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: MobileCS on March 27, 2017, 12:04:24 PM
Beta3 is now 100% complete: https://github.com/SimpleMachines/SMF2.1/milestones
Does that mean that it is finished and no issue will be added??

I hope that means 2.0.14 is going to be released soon?

They did say they wanted to get 2.0.x done first before shipping beta 3.

Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Antes on March 27, 2017, 12:25:26 PM
I'm not sure why people so focused on beta releases while it means nothing and gets old when new commit pushed. What people should be looking at the commit history or PRs or issues (https://github.com/SimpleMachines/SMF2.1/commits/release-2.1 (https://github.com/SimpleMachines/SMF2.1/commits/release-2.1)). We are working on the software continuously.


Yes 2.0.14 is on prio.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Arantor on March 27, 2017, 02:03:10 PM
Beta3 is now 100% complete: https://github.com/SimpleMachines/SMF2.1/milestones
Does that mean that it is finished and no issue will be added??

Yeah, the outstanding issue was reclassified for later, so it still needs to be done.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Irisado on May 14, 2017, 01:43:58 PM
Discussion around future 2.1 releases has been moved to a more suitable place: https://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=545237.0.  Please continue such discussion there and not here.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Gwenwyfar on May 27, 2017, 10:09:02 AM
Do we have a contribution guide somewhere besides git issues list? What those looking to help could do, what is expected for 2.1 since it's not 3.0 yet, etc. Been reading a few topics and still didn't find anything of the sort.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Antes on May 27, 2017, 10:21:45 AM
Do we have a contribution guide somewhere besides git issues list? What those looking to help could do, what is expected for 2.1 since it's not 3.0 yet, etc. Been reading a few topics and still didn't find anything of the sort.

https://github.com/SimpleMachines/SMF2.1/milestones ?
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: shawnb61 on May 27, 2017, 10:41:47 AM
That RC list is not maintained.   Items should be closed, but nobody looks at it.  Seems like folks work on everything BUT that list...

Nothing on that list should hold up a release.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Antes on May 27, 2017, 10:45:53 AM
That RC list is not maintained.   Items should be closed, but nobody looks at it.  Seems like folks work on everything BUT that list...

Nothing on that list should hold up a release.

Well still that page links to the milestones which requires prio attention :P
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Gwenwyfar on May 27, 2017, 11:03:44 AM
I guess not, then. But that helps too, thanks :)
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: shawnb61 on May 27, 2017, 11:55:07 AM
Well still that page links to the milestones which requires prio attention :P

Agreed - that that is how it should be used.   
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Antes on May 27, 2017, 12:15:43 PM
Well still that page links to the milestones which requires prio attention :P

Agreed - that that is how it should be used.   

The thing here, SMF can't ask people (outside) to focus on milestones, on the other hand any contribution is better than none so if someone wants to work on non-milestoned issue its fine by everyone :P (Win-win).
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Arantor on May 27, 2017, 12:39:16 PM
Why can't it say 'we'd appreciate any help to the items in [milestone]'? Provide a focus if nothing else.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Antes on May 27, 2017, 12:44:16 PM
Why can't it say 'we'd appreciate any help to the items in [milestone]'? Provide a focus if nothing else.

I hardly think SMF has that luxury.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Arantor on May 27, 2017, 01:41:38 PM
And the appearance of no direction whatsoever discourages people who might help out. :(
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Colin on May 27, 2017, 03:07:04 PM
I'll work on sorting out some of the milestones after we get Beta 3 out.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: shawnb61 on May 27, 2017, 03:13:53 PM
Thanks Colin.  That will be helpful. 
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: MobileCS on May 28, 2017, 02:07:23 PM
Is Beta 3 the priority now? Or are you guys working on 2.0.15 to fix the remaining issues (ssi logins, etc)
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: Colin on May 28, 2017, 07:18:01 PM
Beta 3 will be out next then 2.0.15.
Title: Re: SMF 2.1 Beta 2 Released
Post by: MobileCS on May 29, 2017, 11:18:48 AM
Ok, thank you.