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[atdforum]

For those who didn't know, this is the Server Settings/Feature Configuration to send email via smtp with Godaddy shared hosting:

MailType             SMTP
SMTP server       relay-hosting.secureserver.net
SMTP port           25
SMTP username  (leave blank)
SMTP password  (leave blank)


Some details on use of smtp relay from Godaddy:

The SMTP server you use for any HOSTED scripts such as SMF, WordPress, etc. is relay-hosting.secureserver.net. A username and password is not required since you are sending mail from a script residing on the server itself. All outgoing mail from the hosting server must go through relay-hosting.secureserver.net. It is not specific to any of your email accounts. The email comes from the hosting server. No port is required but you can specify 25 if needed in the code. The relay limit is 1000/day. Some 'To' and 'From' email addresses, such as those with gmail.com, aol.com, hotmail.com, msn.com, yahoo.com, and yahoo.co.in, are not allowed due to restrictions with those providers and the way our server sends mail.

(Note: this was previously referenced in the post Increase your SMTP relay allowance, for free!).

[Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen]

As this doesn't seem to be a topic seeking help, I'll just mark this solved

[outlawsys]

And GD shared hosting is notably horrible for hosting SMF or any other forum as they oversell servers and way oversell Mysql access. You will get constant errors time outs SMF unreachable errors during busy times





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[atdforum]

And GD shared hosting is notably horrible for hosting SMF or any other forum as they oversell servers and way oversell Mysql access. You will get constant errors time outs SMF unreachable errors during busy times

That's strange, I've had two forums and blog for 4 years and have never had that problem with GD.  And their help desk is awesome.

With the advertisement in your signature for a hosting company, I'm thinking you may have an ulterior motive. 

[青山 素子]

I can confirm that GoDaddy is one of the most troublesome hosts I have seen. At one point there were several reported issues that were narrowed to be occurring only for users coming from a connection with Cox Internet (a cable ISP in the US).

[atdforum]

Guess I'm just lucky... and a good developer.  Most issues are caused by developer-error  (in the opinion of this IT manager ).

btw: outlaysys' comment had little to do with my post on smtp relay with GD, but it was a good opportunity to plug the hosting affiliate ad in his signature.  Nice image, linked to the www.thesexpassroom.com porn site. 

[Arantor]

atdforum, just have a look through the Hosting board for the number of users who've had trouble. As the forum grows, GoDaddy's overselling nature begins to constrain SMF's potential - as it would do for any complex database-bound software.

[atdforum]

Looks like I hit a nerve.   

I don't have any reason to support Godaddy, just saying that it's odd that I've been with them since 2004 with a blog, two forums, a classifieds app, a photo gallery, and a couple home-grown apps and I haven't had issues with them (confusion over smtp relay is not an "issue" or problem).  Not criticizing those with lack of programming experience, but many of the support posts are not as much problems as not being experienced in basic programming or not knowing (or not researching) how to do something in GoDaddy's web site.  Btw:  Kudos to SMF for their simple installation procedures.  My goal in writing technical manuals was to "dummy it down" so even the least experienced programmer could understand it, and SMF is really good at that.

One criticism I do have of GD is their auto-install system for the free applications they "approve".  That takes control of the database away from the developer (you can't even access it) and makes it difficult to upgrade apps to later versions.  From what I've seen in this forum there are many issues or confusion over how to upgrade apps or maintain the database when using their auto-install.  I assume GD started offering it to bring in more customers with no programming experience, but its much better in the long run to create the database and install SMF (and other apps) yourself and, I'm confident, would reduce the number of problem posts in this forum.

Having said that, they are (or once claimed to be) the #1 domain registrar, so they're likely to have the most reported problems just based on volume.

[atdforum]

fyi: I'll have to renew a couple sites or transfer next spring.  I haven't priced hosting in a while and I now see that there are numerous, highly-rated hosts with unlimited-everything for bargain prices, so I may be transferring from GD, afterall. 

[青山 素子]

Unlimited = lie

Be careful with any shared host that tosses that word around. Unlimited is a nice way of saying "we don't publish our actual limits". I suggest checking WebHostingTalk and our own hosting board here to find a good host.

[Norv]

Nobody says that GD has to be bad for everyone. Of course, if you are happy with it, then by all means it is a good thing. However, it may be a good idea to keep a regular backup of your database in a location that is not a GD server. (which is recommended for any backup, actually, being in a different location than the actual files/database).

[atdforum]

Nobody says that GD has to be bad for everyone. Of course, if you are happy with it, then by all means it is a good thing. However, it may be a good idea to keep a regular backup of your database in a location that is not a GD server. (which is recommended for any backup, actually, being in a different location than the actual files/database).

You'll laugh at this, Norv - I'm a paronoid, corporate programmer.  For my personal sites (like my SMF forum), I backup to two external harddrives and DVD stored in a fireproof safe.  I keep 20 generations of daily database bkups.  I have site backups for every development date going back to 2004 (23.2 GB!).

Be careful with any shared host that tosses that word around. Unlimited is a nice way of saying "we don't publish our actual limits". I suggest checking WebHostingTalk and our own hosting board here to find a good host.

Yikes - thanks M-c, I just did that in the past couple hours, checked reviews here and in other "review" sites like WebHostingTalk.  I'm unable to find a hosting company without reviews that involve nightmare scenarios.  Pulled-up a few "top hosting company" lists and Googled each host name and "complaints" and virtually every hosting company has some seriously dissatisfied customers.

And what's with companies starting a policy of 50,000 files max, including email and image files?  JustHost, Hostmonster, BlueHost, etc.  From one complaintant:

I want to transfer my sites from Hostmonster.com, since his offer are fraudulent.  Hostmonster.com offers UNLIMITED Hosting Space. Also, the TERMS OF SERVICE do not contain some limit on the number of files. But now i have received request to reduce the number of files on my account to under 50,000 in 14 days. Otherwise my account will be deactivated.

Forget what I said, as long as GD works well for me, I'm staying put!

Fyi: interesting image attached... partially explains why so many GD complaints (I freely admit they need to set some customer service goals).

[青山 素子]

Yikes - thanks M-c, I just did that in the past couple hours, checked reviews here and in other "review" sites like WebHostingTalk.  I'm unable to find a hosting company without reviews that involve nightmare scenarios.  Pulled-up a few "top hosting company" lists and Googled each host name and "complaints" and virtually every hosting company has some seriously dissatisfied customers.

Those "Top 10 Hosters" are nothing more than paid affiliate things. It's hard to find a real place since so many fake ones are looking for affiliate money. The hosts on those lists almost always paid for that position.

And what's with companies starting a policy of 50,000 files max, including email and image files?  JustHost, Hostmonster, BlueHost, etc.

It's because of a practice that has become prevalent in shared hosting: overselling. The basic premise is that a hosting company will promise huge resources for a low price without any intent of actually giving you the resources advertised. Instead, odd limits are established to prevent you from using those resources, which allows the hoster to pack their servers tightly and make a good profit on the ultra-low prices they charge.

Some limits I have seen are hard CPU % or time limits, file number limits, limits on what percentage of space you can use for certain file types, really low SQL query limits, etc.

Forget what I said, as long as GD works well for me, I'm staying put!

I'll say as above, you've been really lucky. I've seen some of their servers packed with over 300 sites on a single server going by IP alone.

Fyi: interesting image attached... partially explains why so many GD complaints (I freely admit they need to set some customer service goals).

That's just domain registrations, I believe. Many people use them for domain registrations, but not hosting. I know a few companies with hundreds of domains via reseller that don't use their hosting services.

In fact, I'd go so far as to say that their hosting services are probably not used by at least a good 50% of the domains they hold. Also, the problems with them that I've seen aren't so much human error as plain oversold resources and odd issues (like the Cox issue I mentioned above).

[atdforum]

M-chan-

I didn't see a specific host recommendation from you... do you have one?  What are their known problems (seems every host has some)?

Then maybe we can wrap up this tangent started by someone other than me and focus on questions/comments regarding the original subject.

[青山 素子]

No specific recommendations from me. Every host has their advantages and disadvantages, so it's best to find the one that works for you.

I actually do work for a company that offers hosting, but it's very business-oriented (read: expensive), so unless you need 24/7 phone support with the server admin (me) along with nightly full off-site backups, it probably wouldn't be for you. It's one of the reasons I don't advertise on here.