2.0 Final Version

[Lolafish]

Is there an estimate of when this will be ready? I've been waiting for major upgrades to my site, but want to do everything all at once. I'm really excited, but how long do we still have to wait?  Till the end of the year? Next year?  I just want a general time frame, if at all possible.

Thanks for everything you do.   

[Adish - (F.L.A.M.E.R)]

Simple Answer: No
Why?: Because we don't your forums to have bugs and get hacked. So we need to test things out properly so that you are secured enough.

[Lolafish]

Simple Answer: No
Why?: Because we don't your forums to have bugs and get hacked. So we need to test things out properly so that you are secured enough.

In this post:  http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=238229.msg1535754#msg1535754  it was supposed to come out in 2008...although maybe that was meant to portray the first RC version of it?  I've had my forum up for over 2 years now, and I just would like an idea of when to tell my members they can get the features we've all been waiting for.

I understand it's a process..of course.  But no one has ANY idea whatsoever of a timeframe?  Wahhhhhhhh.

[C4G-TK]

I heard that it is coming out sometime between the time when people stop asking when it is going to come out and people stop making threads that say "PLEASE HELP!", but I may be wrong.  LOL

[Lolafish]

I heard that it is coming out sometime between the time when people stop asking when it is going to come out and people stop making threads that say "PLEASE HELP!", but I may be wrong.  LOL

lol

Yeah yeah yeah, I get it already

However...NOTHING is full proof, or fool proof.  I still have security issues with the 1.1.10 version I run now. It'll never be perfect.  Hurry up already.  lmao

[PurpleCrow]

I'd rather they take their time and get it completely finished (as bug free as possible etc) than rush them and end up with a buggy final release

[Kill Em All]

However...NOTHING is full proof, or fool proof.  I still have security issues with the 1.1.10 version I run now. It'll never be perfect.  Hurry up already.  lmao

Maybe because the latest version is 1.1.11...

Not SMF's fault you are running a outdated version.

[Jakob Fel]

Heh, I was just about to say that.

[Adish - (F.L.A.M.E.R)]

I heard that it is coming out sometime between the time when people stop asking when it is going to come out and people stop making threads that say "PLEASE HELP!", but I may be wrong.  LOL

lol

Yeah yeah yeah, I get it already

However...NOTHING is full proof, or fool proof.  I still have security issues with the 1.1.10 version I run now. It'll never be perfect.  Hurry up already.  lmao

If we rush in 2.0 Final, you'll have even MORE security issues in there and I bet you won't like it. Give it time and you'll get a good fruit. You can always go to 1.1.11 as suggested by Kill Em All as it has no known security wholes. It will definitely secure your forum than what it is at in 1.1.10.

[Lolafish]

You can always go to 1.1.11 as suggested by Kill Em All as it has no known security wholes. It will definitely secure your forum than what it is at in 1.1.10.

Thanks for the tip!

[TurtleKicker]

Lolafish,

Not an ETA, but you might be interested in this thread:
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=377215.0

To the developers:

Instead of an ETA (which I know is what you're always asked and a question you can't answer)... how about just some sort of "status update"? Something to the masses to just tell us how things are going/progressing? Tell us about what has been done, and your opinions of the remaining workload. These are questions you can answer, and would go a long way towards pacifying the understandably-impatient forum admins desperate for something... anything... to give them some sense of the progress being made.

You have to understand the atmosphere on the outside of the curtain here... all we have available to us is the Developers Blog, in which not only has there been no post talking about SMF2 progress since October 2009, but the only two recent threads have been announcements about developers leaving. It makes people uneasy and desperate for something positive.

Thanks.

[Joker™]

sremick bro How about following this Page Regularly

[TurtleKicker]

sremick bro How about following this Page Regularly

I do, which is where I get the stats for the thread/post I linked in my previous post.

However, it is very difficult to extract an overall view and general sense of the state of progress by watching all the individual bug noise. I know about Mantis, but it's not this:

http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=321718.0

That's what I'm talking about. We're overdue for something like that (especially since back in March we were promised one "soon")... one should come out each month.

[searchgr]

Wait until the Windows 8. It will be around that time, i guess.

[Kindred]

well, "soon" can mean many different things because it is comparative.



however, as I have said before: We will most likely have an RC4 release before the final release.

[Norv]

You are right, I don't think we have been as informative as we should have, in the past few weeks. I will make sure we will have a very informative status update in a matter of days. I know that following the bug tracker says something, but not enough, and we will make sure to fill in the gaps. Sorry for the delay in doing so thus far.

[searchgr]

If there is a rc4 release then i expect the final version around Xmas the earliest.

[TurtleKicker]

If there is a rc4 release then i expect the final version around Xmas the earliest.

If it really takes that long before I can offer the modernization my forum desperately needs to remain relevant amongst competing forums, then I'll be lucky if I have any users left by then.

[SN]

Guys seriously, RC3 is very stable and no real major flaws.

Is just fine to upgrade if you really want to and are worried about losing members.

My forum has been on RC3 for months now and i haven't had 1 problem with it

[TurtleKicker]

Guys seriously, RC3 is very stable and no real major flaws.

If the official line is for admins to upgrade their forums to RC3, then they need to:

1) Change the company line regarding betas and RCs, which currently now informs users that it isn't to be used for a production site, and...

2) Provide an updater so that users who move to RC3 out of desperation can smoothly upgrade to RC4 and/or SMF2 final without a full reinstall and without losing all their mods.

Another reason moving to an RC for a production site isn't workable is due to many mod authors not bothering to update their mods until SMF2 final is released. It's not practical to migrate a site using mods that work on SMF1 to SMF2 RC3 if those critical mods haven't been updated yet.

Perhaps your site uses no or few mods, or all your mods have been updated for RC3. If so, congratulations... however, one of SMF's touted strengths is the power it gives through its many mods, and some people (like me) make use of many in order to provide a unique experience to their forum users.

[searchgr]

Most of the mods are updated to rc2 or rc3 (at least the most important ones). I confirm that the smf rc2 is very stable with no problems. My forum is visited by about 500 users on a daily basis.

[Kindred]

actually, RC2 is not stable, because there are known security issues with it (hence on of the main reasons that RC3 was released)

[searchgr]

I have several customized mods. It will be a big story to upgrade and rewrite them again... plus that as i read there is a problem with the 'Paid Subscriptions' built-in mod.

[Road Rash Jr.]

Just my 2 cents but it seems you are arguing against your points.

1) you may be loosing users by not having the updated services provided in RC3 or a final release. Yet you already provide a (in your words) unique experience for your users with your extensive mods. So it's not likely in my opinion the lack of RC3 or Gold release will have an affect on your users. They typically don't have a clue anyway.
2)you don't upgrade to RC3 because mods aren't being updated for this version. What makes you think the mods you want or use will be updated any faster when the final release is available? My experience has been the final release will be issued when it's ready and not before and an mod updates for that will be released when THEY are ready and not before. Mod updates could take anywhere from 6 months to a year depending on the writers time to devote to it.
Finally, all good things come to he who waits.
From an old fart who realizes to hurry is to miss most of what we rush past.

[searchgr]

I have paid for the customized mods. I can update them any time i want but i prefer to wait.
rc3 is not perfect. The issue with the 'paid subscriptions' is very serious for me.

[Kindred]

please explain the paid subscription issue that you keep mentioning. I looked in the Mantis buglist and noticed only a MINOR issue with paid subscriptions in RC3.  The only other issue that I am aware of was fixed between RC1 and RC2

[Road Rash Jr.]

I have paid for the customized mods. I can update them any time i want but i prefer to wait.
rc3 is not perfect. The issue with the 'paid subscriptions' is very serious for me.

Probably a good decision on your part to wait so your problem is solved, however in my opinion little is accomplished ragging on the crew to hurry up and finish this.

[searchgr]

please explain the paid subscription issue that you keep mentioning. I looked in the Mantis buglist and noticed only a MINOR issue with paid subscriptions in RC3.  The only other issue that I am aware of was fixed between RC1 and RC2

http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=388554.msg2685179#msg2685179

[Kindred]

ah... but it looks like a) a fix was posted so that can be corrected if you have the same problem and b) it's only a problem on some hosts. I was not able to recreate it on my own host...