Post Moderation -- what am I missing?

[Ninja ZX-10RR]

It's not really clear since your English is not entirely correct :/

Let me show a screenshot, here you can see how many permissions there are for each groups, you can easily understand what I mean

[meemzo]

Thank you very much, that did help.  But unfortunately the steps to get to your example eludes me.  I created the posting group, but was unsure of the setting when creating.  Can you check my attachments and tell me what settings should be made when creating that member group?  Please see images where I have questions about the settings.  All of my posting groups have the same permissions so I assume I would only need to create one posting member group.    I know you are probably ready to throttle me for "not getting it".   

FYI: My regular membership still has all the permissions, because the site is live and I don't want to throw my members off, until I know how to do this for sure.

[Ninja ZX-10RR]

You're welcome I'll keep going even if the following will be pretty technical and you will might need to read it a few times.
Those are all post-based membergroups and must have "use unique profile permissions" if you want to the same way I did it.
Note that I added a few permissions for high post-count membergroups but if you don't want to do that you can create X membergroups for post-count and use only 2 profiles, the 1 one like my "newbie" and the other one just create all the membergroups and make the high post-count ones inherit permissions from the "new user" so that they will all have the ability to post and the same "new user" permissions.
To create more membergroups you can create them "based off" (basically this will copy the permissions but it will give you the ability to customize them if you need it) your "new user" membergroup or either inherit the permissions from it (this way you won't be able to customize EACH post-count membergroup, so not the exactly the way I did).
Also note that if you create a lot of membergroups and board profile permissions it might be tricky to set all permissions properly. That's why it took me at least a week to tweak all of them, I was still very noob when I did that so it took me longer than it would take me now.

[meemzo]

So this is the tricky situation.  I set up the layout just as described.  It did take me awhile to realize I had to check "give permission to member groups in settings" for them to show up in general permissions, duh.  I set all the permissions for the posting levels to the same.  My problem is that "new member" is part of a posting group, as is every member on the site, so the permissions didn't really change.  Even though I put "new member" in a member group that requires posting approval it still doesn't work because they are in a posting group that does.  It's a vicious cycle that I don't know how to get out of. 

How does one set up a member to require post approvals?  There must be a way.

[Kindred]

You either must remove them from all membergroups that have post without approval granted....
Or you turn on the ability to use deny... And the , in the restrictive membergroup, you activate, post with approval and deny post without approval.

[meemzo]

It won't allow me to remove them from post membergroups.  Wouldn't they just be a member of the post group again, once they start making more posts?  I did turn on post with approval.  The only way it worked if I also changed that setting in the posting level group the "new member" is part of and I can't remove, but it changed it for everyone in the posting level group, which I don't want.  Nutshell

"New member" in restrictive group = set to needs post approval
"New member" in posting group = set to does not need post approval. every member is in posting levels as default.  can't remove member from this group.

Edited: seems to me posting levels will always win, and since EVERY member is assigned to one of those groups, could this ever work?

[Kindred]

That is why I told you to turn OFF the post count based group permissions.

As long as you leave those permissions on, you are got g to have issues, because you don't seem to understand the interaction between allow, disallow and deny

[meemzo]

Now I'm really confused because I followed, the instructions beforehand that allowed them in the permission group to change the settings as demonstrated above.  Did I misunderstand that part.  I think if I back track it will make sense.  Thanks

[Ninja ZX-10RR]

I think that this will go a LOT faster if you PM me a test account with the rights to edit permissions, I set it up in more or less 5 mins and then you can study how I did that

[meemzo]

You are my savior!  PM'ing you the info.

[Ninja ZX-10RR]

The user just wanted to manually set each user in a post-approval membergroup but using the warning system is *WAY* easier so I just set the permissions properly but since I mistyped the password once I went to the error log to get rid of the error and found this.
Ok, the undefined are all that time crap but the database ones are collations and there are many more. This situation is extremely bad and can lead to crashes and further problems, I *HIGHLY* recommend to work (and ask if necessary) to fix those errors.

[meemzo]

Thanks so much to Ninja.  Everything seems to be working properly.  I do have another thread regarding the error messages http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=527811.0.  Got a little lost with what was being said there so I need to revisit the thread.  But consider the original issue resolve.