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Started by LiroyvH, January 05, 2012, 10:17:15 AM

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Quote from: arrowtotheknee on January 19, 2012, 08:38:06 PM
Seriously, though, how many people used MegaUpload for legitimate reasons vs the number of people who used it for illegitimate ones?
I used Megaupload Premium for years exclusively for sharing legit work related files. Now that they are gone I effectively lost about 16GB or freshly uploaded files which is the reason why I now need to upload those 16 gigs again somewhere else and hope not to break every imaginable quata when our clients start downloading it :( The point being is that their bandwidth was extremely cheap compared to alternatives.

Arantor

Sure, there are people who do use it legitimately, even for large downloads. But I would imagine the *vast* majority are not.

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LiroyvH

Same owners, same servers.
Take down. And that without SOPA and PIPA involved. Wonder what they need it for.
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wynnyelle

I used MegaUpload to upload very large image files I made for my site, chiefly our roleplay character family trees. Thank goodness I downloaded a fresh copy of everything before it went down.

This sucks. Long live the United States of Hollywood.

Oh and you got to love the Golan vs. Holder decision in Congress today, too, that's a real kicker.

LiroyvH

It looks like megavideo is back on a .bz domain. Hosted in the Netherlands.
Not sure if legit..
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SleePy

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Their (fbi.gov) site is back online at this point.  I got some weird pages as I refreshed so my guess is they just brought it back.


That said, when I did gaming in the past, we used places like MU to share mod packages for the games.  Lots of people had legit uses for MegaUpload.  But I do agree that I think a good portion of their stuff was not legit.
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nend

I only use MU to download ROMs for my phone, not illegal, but newer builds of Android OS. The manufacturer of my phone is only at Froyo for my model and I am at ICS thanks to a good group of devs I get my custom ROM from.

The gov is just going to hurt us for what a tiny bit of users do. I think they need to go after the users doing it and not the web sites.

Xarcell

I called my House of Representatives and voiced my opinion. What most people don't realize, is that all big companies have to do is hire a lawyer to say "copyright infringement" and your site will be shut down without due process, whether the copyright infringement is true or not. I can see companies like Match.com and Electronic Arts doing this repeated to shut down potential competitors before they get anywhere. I say they because they have been trying to do that already, before the bill was even introduced.

Youtube will definitely be shut down, simply because they cannot control the amount of copyrighted material they is uploaded fast enough. Sony Entertainment is targeting Youtube and has been a major player in this bill. WikiPedia will be threatened. Open source software will be threatened. Bitorrent sites will be definitely shutdown, even though some people don't use it for piracy.

You have to understand sites will be shut down without due process, meaning sites will be shut down, then investigated(guilty until proven innocent). Instead of investigated, and if proven guilty, then shut down(innocent until proven guilty). It will ruin the internet because anyone with a lawyer can pretty much shut down any website they choose.

Xarcell

Quote from: Fustrate on January 19, 2012, 05:54:04 PM
It's not that Congress wants to do it - they're being paid and lobbied by the massive film, television, and music industries to do it. As long as they get their money, they'll go along with most anything.

You said it. That's exactly what's going on. That's why I'm pulling for Ron Paul.

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QuoteA big hurrah to you!!!!! We've won for now -- SOPA and PIPA were dropped by Congress today -- the votes we've been scrambling to mobilize against have been cancelled.

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Fustrate

The votes are cancelled or delayed, that doesn't mean the bills won't be back soon, maybe under different names. The industries pushing this aren't going to stop, we need to keep an eye out to make sure they don't slip these things in under our noses.
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Oldiesmann

I love the latest comments from MPAA chairman Chris Dodd about this:

http://www.theverge.com/2012/1/20/2720660/mpaa-chairman-former-senator-chris-dodd-sopa-strategy-compromise/in/2405432

QuoteDodd blames the bills' reduced support on a slow timeline that allowed opposition to mobilize, but also on a strategy that ended up making the anti-piracy effort seem specifically about helping Hollywood.

In other words, he wants to get things through quickly so people don't have time to find out about them or realize that they're backed by the MPAA and the entertainment industry in general.
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busterone

So true. They wanted to push one right past our noses hoping we wouldn't notice it until it was too late.  No matter how they spin it, it has always been about Hollywood and their greed. You can bathe and dress a pig in a evening gown with pearls, but in the end, it is still a pig.  :)

butchs

SOPA is simply Corporate Greed wanting to take over the internet and charge you for every data file and image you download in your day to day browsing.
I have been truly inspired by the SUGGESTIONS as I sit on my throne and contemplate the wisdom imposed upon me.

Fustrate

SOPA is in shambles, but Rep. Lamar Smith has another bill that's guaranteed to pass. The "Protecting Children from Internet Pornographers Act of 2011", which has nothing to do with protecting children, has been laying in wait since last year. It wants all of your data to be saved by your ISP for 18 months for the government to demand, without a warrant, at any time. Credit card data, bank statements, IP information and search history will all be kept "in a safe place", which we all know means jack ****** in terms of real data security.

Now if you're against this bill, you're going to be painted as pro-child pornography. It's a despicable tactic, and it's really a shameful thing they're doing to get their way.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:H.R.1981:
http://gcn.com/articles/2011/08/05/protecting-children-bill-could-kill-internet.aspx
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/08/the-legislation-that-could-kill-internet-privacy-for-good/242853/

Due to the way bills work, anything can be tagged onto the end of this bill, and use its idiotic name to go through unhindered. Like the stuff in SOPA.

Child pornography is a serious problem, but yet again, they're setting fire to the house because they think they might've glanced a spider in the corner of their eye. Just goes to show we can't trust people who don't know how the internet works to control how we use the internet.
Steven Hoffman
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SleePy

So, its just like "hurting American jobs" tactics to try and get SOPA/PIPA passed.
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Arantor

It's one hell of a backup plan!

LiroyvH

Child pornography is a real big issue indeed.
However, just like with SOPA, they can do the same thing no?
"While we fully support the goal of the bill, in it's current form it is not right"
Then change it into something that does work...
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Arantor

That's the thing... there's not enough people saying that - and the mass media campaign that got SOPA set back won't work.

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