Best Forum Software

[pokercapo]

Hi,
i think that smf has the best forum software on this f planet.
The only thing that i dont understand is why oh why there is no plugin to intergrate smf into wordpress or joomla !!!
I'f seen many topics here about that issue and see the same ignorant replies
" Anything you can do in WP you can do in SMF !! "
thats a load of bull
I'am willing to pay for somebody that can help me out here and intergrate smf into my Wordpress site .
I love both systems and i need this to be done.
ATM i use Simple:Press at my site but i hate this Forum plugin.
So please can anybody help me out here?
Kind regards,
Erik

[Ricky.]

There are few plugins in WP and some in SMF which can integrate both which other but generally it is not advised as SMF along with portal can double as CMS (to certain extent). However, if you insist on using WP or Joomla then you can actually make both looks similar, there is also certain level of integration available but  are not really exciting and full of problems.

[pokercapo]

Hi Ricky,
Yes if seen that here about the bridges ( duo login )
The thing is that nobody seem to get it to work,and i am scared to ruin my wordpress site.
the bridges i found are at least 2 years old
If maybe you know a bridge that wil give me that dual login posibilty then GREAT !
I can then make smf look like my wp site.
Hope you or anybody can help me out with this
Cheers,

[Arantor]

thats a load of bull

No it isn't. You can do anything in SMF that you could have done in WP - just not immediately out of the box, and I can guarantee you making your themes harmonise is a far far larger job than the bridge would be (speaking as someone who has ported WP themes to SMF in the past)

[Kindred]

and my replies in that vein are not ignorant...

I have more than 20+ years experience in making internet software work.... (yes, even before there was an internet)

I also run multiple SMF sites as well as several WordPress sites and even a few joomla sites...

Anything I can do in one, I can get the other to do....  the main idea is - determine what the focus of your site is going to be.
If your site is going to focus on content with blogs or forums as a side note, then Joomla is a greta way to go.
If your site is going to focus on blogs with content and/or a forum/community as a side note, then WordPress (as ugly as the coding is) works pretty well.
If the primary focus of your site is going to be a community/forum with everyone participating, but you want blogs or content as well, then SMF can handle that, without any other separate software

but... do what you want. There are a few bridges out there.

[pokercapo]

Dear Kindred,
wordpress has beter plugins and beter seo options then smf.
my site is a online gaming review site that publishes reviews everyday and blogs news of the online gambling and gaming world.
You can never do this as good as wordpress with your smf.
smf is ( for me)the best forum software !
But why you say that smfis beter then wp is a ridle to me and many others.
why would smf compete with wp ?
why not work together like simple:press does or phbb
WP is the best system for building a pretty and good seo optimised site.
And you with all your experience ! Dont you see that you could earn a lot of money by making a premium smf to wp intergration plugin?
Then again you probebly dont have sites to make money from but pure as a hobby
Cheers,

[Arantor]

wordpress has beter plugins and beter seo options then smf.

It has *more* plugins. Having 15 different gallery options isn't necessarily a good thing.

my site is a online gaming review site that publishes reviews everyday and blogs news of the online gambling and gaming world.

So make it a blog and be done with it.

You can never do this as good as wordpress with your smf.

I can but I'm an SMF expert. I once built an accounting system on top of SMF.

WP is the best system for building a pretty and good seo optimised site.

The fact that you can't actually optimise content you don't control is, of course, totally irrelevant.

Dont you see that you could earn a lot of money by making a premium smf to wp intergration plugin?

This will result in a large number of complaints from our users who seem to feel that everything should be free and generally object to paying for anything.

We (the developer team) are not going to touch a WP integration for 2.1, it is unlikely for us to do so for 3.0 either but that's because we have other plans anyway.

[pokercapo]

whatever smf experts !!!
smf is the world's best site builder
    (((  my site is a online gaming review site that publishes reviews everyday and blogs news of the online gambling and gaming world.


So make it a blog and be done with it.

))

i need both !!!
can you do this with smf ??
http://themeforest.net/item/powermag-the-most-muscular-magazinereviews-theme/4740939 [nofollow]

[Arantor]

If *you* want a blog, use a blog. Me, I'll just convert a WP theme to SMF and roll it myself.

For example, crossingoverland.com is actually entirely SMF.

Yes, I probably could do that on SMF with a bit of time. I just can't do it magically (and neither could you even with a bridge)

[pokercapo]

i did not say i could do that.
i only need a dual login for my site and community
and btw you site crossingoverland.com [nofollow] is a simpel blog main page with forum.
nothing special there,even i can make that with smf

[Arantor]

and btw you site crossingoverland.com is a simpel blog main page with forum.

Except there's no blog component there. There's also things like geotagging of posts and a gallery.

i did not say i could do that.
i only need a dual login for my site and community

You said you wanted a dual login, followed by having to modify your theme. So you'd have to modify your theme (and you're going to have *so* much fun doing that as opposed to grabbing SMF and a portal mod and using one standard theme across the entire site)

As for your example, yes that could be done in SMF, just no-one has done it yet. But it's far from impossible, it's just not pre-made and off the shelf. There are plenty of things that can't be done in WP pre-made and out of the box.

But honestly the argument is going nowhere.

[Kindred]

and actually, yes...  I can make a site like that in SMF without too much trouble.
http://www.askawitchcommunity.org

Gallery (had a slider module but didn't like it)
several custom modules (moon phase, RSS feed, Wikipedia
FAQ
Glossary
Articles
Affiliates
Link list
facebook integration
FanFic/Writing component

I could have blogs too... but those did not suit the intention of the site...

So - yes, I believe that I can do anything from wordpress, either the same or better, using SMF.

[IchBin™]

I have to say guys, your replies are very off-putting.  Sure you can do everything in SMF that WP can do, but that's not what people want. People want to use both. No reason to constantly barrage people with telling them they are all wrong. Why not just encourage people to write the bridge, or update one that could work with the latest and greatest SMF? The fact of the matter is SMF isn't doing what they want that a Blog is doing. They don't want to have to do all sorts of customizing things, when they can get what they want out of a box in both software.

This attitude you guys have is driving away people that would use SMF, and at worst someone that could possibly turn out to be a contributor.  People aren't experts at doing this like you guys. You have to cater to those who know just enough to install a piece of software, and if they are lucky they can get a bridge to help merge the bits they want. If I were to look around and look at the requests that are made for SMF, I'd wager money that a WP bridge is one of those top items. Not saying you guys have to work on it, but at least stop shoving people into the "SMF can do anything hole". Maybe just a "Sorry, the bridges that have worked on here (link). If they don't work for you, maybe try to get someone to update it for you. We don't have the time or man power at the moment."...

[Arantor]

I have told people in the past that we don't have the time or the manpower; this is of course irrelevant - so I have to step it up to stating flat out that we're not working on it for probably 18 months to 2 years and even then the message doesn't sink in that we have neither the time, the energy or the desire to do so - and even then no-one cares as long as they get what they want.

It's, of course, much easier to complain than to actually do something about it. I have been busy working on improving 2.1, because that to me is infinitely more important than spending time on something that a minority of users want.

I personally would also rather build CMS functionality rather than integrating the terrible mess of code that is WP - but that's just me.

[IchBin™]

I know it's an OCD with you and unanswered topics , but maybe just stop replying will help you. Users will get the point, if they don't then that is there problem.

[Arantor]

I know it's an OCD with you and unanswered topics , but maybe just stop replying will help you. Users will get the point, if they don't then that is there problem.

You did know I have issues with autism, right? And users will continue to complain one way or the other until a bridge occurs and then someone has to maintain it, and then someone will complain that it doesn't integrate their theme. Been there, done that.

But of course, if you'd rather I didn't reply to topics, that's easily fixable. It'll just need people to tell me when there's bugs and whatnot that I need to work on amongst everything else I need to do.

[IchBin™]

You do know how to take a joke right?  My point is, if all you guys (not just you) are going to do is badger members about the above mentioned problems, there's no reason to reply.  Just encourage people. There's no reason to discourage them, especially if you want other developers to get interested in helping on these things.

[pokercapo]

Its hopeless,
Look at Kindred for example !
He gives example of what he can do with smf,lol but its a simpel community that has nothing special
You can do all with smf that WP can you say ? and i give you the powermag wordpress magazinereviews-theme as example ( witch is my current theme.
and you show me that ugly site
(  and actually, yes...  I can make a site like that in SMF without too much trouble.
http://www.askawitchcommunity.org [nofollow]

Gallery (had a slider module but didn't like it)
several custom modules (moon phase, RSS feed, Wikipedia )

I give up !!

for whatever its worth ,close this topic as solved

[Ricky.]

I do agree with IchBin that we can have little better or softer approach on this, lets hope we will have someone to code for it, may be lets get 2.1 to beta or RC then I can devote some time to it. However, Beeblebrox is also right that we can have CMS thing in it but lately he himself had denied  in one discussion .
For pokercapo, had once done a small SMF site and even portal was not used, guy was really happy with end result..
http://sanitationwan.net/

[Kindred]

one thing, pokercapo, please learn how to use the quote tags?