Simple topic prefix

[Jade Elizabeth]

I want users to be forced to select a prefix in several boards, but those prefixes to be available in only those boards. I'd like it to be a board setting where I can enter in prefixes with a comma separating them, and a checkbox to require a prefix on the modify board screen. Then they can enter their title in and select their prefix on posting .

If you can do this for $10 or less please contact me immediately.

[radu81]

I don't know if this can be useful, but if you can spend 29$ there is a paid mod from sfpacks

[Arantor]

Yeah, I think I can safely say that isn't going to happen. It's an interesting story.

[Jade Elizabeth]

I don't know if this can be useful, but if you can spend 29$ there is a paid mod from sfpacks

Way too expensive for me at the moment, and I specifically want it as a board option .

Yeah, I think I can safely say that isn't going to happen. It's an interesting story.

Are you saying that you would charge more than $10 to add a checkbox and text field to the board modify screen, and a drop down to the post screen? As well as a check on posting to throw an error if one is not picked?

[Arantor]

Actually that wasn't what I was saying, I was saying there was no way in hell you'd be spending money with Nibogo.

But as it happens, yes, I would charge more than $10. It's actually not quite the simple edit you seem to think it is.

[Jade Elizabeth]

How much would you suggest?

[Kindred]

hmmmm....   there was one other prefix mod in the mods list - it had some issues which were never fixed, and so was removed from the queue...    but maybe you could convince Live627 to update it?

[Jade Elizabeth]

hmmmm....   there was one other prefix mod in the mods list - it had some issues which were never fixed, and so was removed from the queue...    but maybe you could convince Live627 to update it?

OOo more info? I was going to use the lite version of one but it's been deleted. Makes me sad.

So how do I grovel to Live. Should I sacrifice virgins or will cookies suffice? ha ha

[live627]

coooooooooookieeeees

[Jade Elizabeth]

Ha ha, how many sacrifices do we need?

[live627]

your first born son

[Justyne]

Overpriced. She didn't ask for straw being spun into gold, Rumple

[live627]

hahaha

[Arantor]

If it were a premade mod being sold, $15 a sale would be fair, but as a built from scratch just for you, I'd be charging $50-$70 for it.

[Jade Elizabeth]

your first born son

How many of those can I have before it becomes suspicious? ha ha

Overpriced. She didn't ask for straw being spun into gold, Rumple

Ha ha ha

If it were a premade mod being sold, $15 a sale would be fair, but as a built from scratch just for you, I'd be charging $50-$70 for it.

For that teeny mod? What the hell are you adding to it? ha ha

[Arantor]

It's not about how much I'm adding, it's about effort vs return.

If it's already 'ready to go' and you're just buying a ready-made thing, I'd be selling a product to other people, meaning that my total compensation is more than just $15.

If it's just for you, you're getting something unique. Besides, it takes more than an hour to build something like this with testing.

[live627]

I WANTS MAH COOKIE!!!!

Mod updated and is now awaiting review.

[Jade Elizabeth]

I LOVE YOU LIVE!

* Jade Elizabeth gives Live enough cookies to swim in

It's not about how much I'm adding, it's about effort vs return.

If it's already 'ready to go' and you're just buying a ready-made thing, I'd be selling a product to other people, meaning that my total compensation is more than just $15.

If it's just for you, you're getting something unique. Besides, it takes more than an hour to build something like this with testing.

All I want is a text field, a check box (adds a setting), and then a post box. You should check if the board has one on posting only. I don't see how this would be more than a few lines of code?

[Arantor]

All I want is a text field, a check box (adds a setting), and then a post box. You should check if the board has one on posting only. I don't see how this would be more than a few lines of code?

Yes, you're right, it's a few lines of code because I suck and I know nothing. Good night.

[Jade Elizabeth]

No I want to understand how it's bigger than I think it is .

[Justyne]

Well, presumably you'd need an interface to edit all the possible options for each board. You will add a DB entry to store this stuff somewhere. You're changing how post and modify works. You are likely making a distinction here if a post is the first of a thread or not because it only makes sense to edit this in the first post. Otherwise a thread gets tagged multiple times and which one do you display then? You are also changing sorting methods, because presumably you'd want to be able to sort by this tag. Then you have to deal with permissions of being able to edit and use it. Then you're poking around in themes to display it.

I'd say you're not just adding a line in a file but are at least editing 3 or 4 (more if you design it well) ... though the work intensive bit is making an interface for it I think. At least, if you prefer interfaces to be usable and not a clumsy mess.

[Jade Elizabeth]

No. It's a board setting on modify board for each board, I wanted it to be UBER simple. All I want is a checkbox and a text field and that's it.

When you're modifying a board:
Is it required in this board to pick a prefix? [x]
List prefixes [blah,blah2,blah3]

On posting/modifying a topic:
Select a prefix <drop down with blank, then the 3 listed prefixes>

When posting prefix is part of title. Not separate to it. Nothing else needs to be modified.

[Arantor]

So let's see how many files need modifying to make this work:

* ManageBoards.php to load/save the settings
* ManageBoards.template.php to show the settings to the user
+ two database columns

* Load.php to actually load the settings for later use
* Post.php (multiple places) to display the setting and let people change it (and bearing in mind you have to split the code between the saving code and the utter mess that is the post display form)

And if you're doing it as 'part of the title' you mean to splice it in to the topic's title so no work is required on saving... good luck with that if you ever have any plans of editing.

This is also compounded in lots of lovely ways when it comes to doing things like preventing the code screwing it up since the same code is used for replies as posts, the fact that editing a topic won't change all the replies that have the same subject... this is why you keep it a separate field in the database normally and load it on demand, which means extra work in MessageIndex.php, MessageIndex.template.php, Display.php, Display.template.php and anywhere else you want to show it like recent, search, unread.

This is why it's never, ever as simple as people believe it is. Everything you have stated relies on multiple assumptions of how things work, and they don't work that way in practice.

[Jade Elizabeth]

Why do you have to do load? Why not just ask it on post if the value is in the database and what the values are? I know that's not "proper" but it is quick and dirty.

On editing you can do a regedit to check for a prefix that matches. Then you don't need to alter more than a few files.

This is why it's never, ever as simple as people believe it is. Everything you have stated relies on multiple assumptions of how things work, and they don't work that way in practice.

Well that's why I was asking why it would cost so much more than expected, I didn't want you to get angry I wanted to learn and understand!

[AllanD]

I think this is something that should be built into core like Xenforo and MyBB.

[Arantor]

The team have repeatedly asserted they don't want this in the core.

[Jade Elizabeth]

Am I missing where the mod is?

[live627]

it's not approved yet.

[Jade Elizabeth]

Oh okay, I have been looking out for it . I thought maybe it wasn't showing up cause it was further down the list or something and I was blonde .

[Jade Elizabeth]

Am I really blind or is this not out yet?

[Jade Elizabeth]

Any news?

[Burke ♞ Knight]

I've not seen it yet, and I actually could use it, too.

[Jade Elizabeth]

[Alanar]

Just adding myself to the list of people who really want this mod.

[Jade Elizabeth]

I'm adding my other identity to the list

[4Kstore]

I just finish my last mod, maybe can help you: http://www.smfsimple.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;download=213
Is paid mod: 2.5 USD

[waplist]

I also want post prefix with css for 2.0.9

[Jade Elizabeth]

4K your mod looks fantastic! I will have a look at it for sure.

[waplist]

@4kstore i cant buy your mod cause i am from india and paypal dont work .please help if there any other way i can pay u?