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Started by 青山 素子, July 24, 2007, 11:39:51 PM
QuoteFrom Joomla!'s GPL Announcement: It's a long, slow road. We're not going to make any sudden moves because we know that a lot of people are relying on us to maintain some stability and meet expectations.
Quote from: joomla on July 27, 2007, 06:16:25 AMThats fine, just don't claim that your decision was developed in consultation with the Joomla Core Team. When/if you are ready to talk, let us know, as we have plenty of information to share with you.
Quote from: eldʌkaː on July 27, 2007, 06:25:26 AMViewing a product of software, whatever it is, including the HTML produced by SMF+Joomla, is not the same as receiving a distribution of it. You're not distributing it unless you offered your PHP code for download.
Quote from: Kindred on July 27, 2007, 04:08:50 PMIf the bridge is a violation of the GPL, then it is a violation. it does not matter how much joomla says they want to take it slowly.When Joomla announced their interpretation of the GPL, they essentially said "If you do not fit this interpretation, then you are in violation."Although the joomla team may not choose to pursue any litigation against SMF for the bridge, SMF WOULD be in violation, if we continued to distribute the bridge.
Quote from: Kindred on July 27, 2007, 04:08:50 PMAs for maintaining stability... 1.0.13 has, unfortunately, just contradicted that by changing parts of joomla critical to any integration.If, and until, the bridge has been redesigned, there will be no further release.
QuoteCan I release an extension under a non-GPL license?It is our opinion that most extensions are derivative works of Joomla! and must be licensed under the GNU GPL. It is possible that an extension could work within Joomla! and not be considered a derivative work according to copyright law but this would have to be evaluated on a case-by-case basis. If you believe your extension is not a derivative work we strongly recommend that you seek professional legal advice.
QuoteDo not allow any Joomla supporter or Team Member to mislead you. There is only one reason that makes the SMF bridge illegal to use with Joomla and that is because the Joomla Core Team has decided that it is so:
Quote from: Asphyx on July 28, 2007, 11:19:06 AMQuoteDo not allow any Joomla supporter or Team Member to mislead you. There is only one reason that makes the SMF bridge illegal to use with Joomla and that is because the Joomla Core Team has decided that it is so:Colt you truly miss the point...there are many libraries in Joomla that Joomla can not give you permission to use in proprietary work they don't own them. You may choose not to believe that if you want but ingnorance doesn't always equal bliss!Just more poison....
Quote from: Brett SmithNo. The glue script would ultimately create a single work, derived from both the original scripts, and you would need to follow the terms of all those licenses to create it. Combining the first script with the second this way would violate its exception-free GPL.
QuoteThere is only one arbitor of what is TRULY enforcable, Truly a Violation and that is a court of law.FSF can take anyone to court for license violation they want (not entirely true...) but it isn't actually a license violation and no action to pull a project needs to be taken until a court says "Hey FSF, Your Right it is a violation."
Quote from: Asphyx on July 28, 2007, 11:19:06 AM...Copyright judgement in a court is largely determined on Harm and Fairness...If these interpretations that FSF are truly unfair to any 3rd party developer and they want to maintain what they deem are their rights, they should get together to challenge the FSF interpretation in court....
Quote from: anna.young on July 28, 2007, 06:48:28 PMIf I understand it correctly, SMF is in no position to argue anything in Courts because this has nothing to do with THEIR license... SMF has no obligation to comply with FSF 'interpretations' or their rules. I believe they are complying out of courtesy and respect for other groups and their projects... The same way I as Canadian do not need to comply with USA laws or their interpretations and vice versa... FSF has no jurisdiction over SMF...
Quote from: Asphyx on July 28, 2007, 11:19:06 AMIf we truly want to solve this issue and truly want to disprove the notion that only GPL can be combined with GPL then it should be a goal of the entire developer community to find a way to shoot down this midas touch licensing interpretation by the FSF.