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[Declined] postings via emails (yahoo! groups!)

Started by assad, April 26, 2004, 04:33:24 PM

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Anguz

Hi, Tobias. Do you have an estimate of how close to decently working this is already? I'm also interested in the functionality :).
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Tobias Eigen

Hi Anguz -

Sorry, but this is hard for me to say. Stay tuned, or contact digitalgraal to see if you can help with the beta testing. He can use all the help he can get.

Cheers,

Tobias
Kabissa - Space for Change in Africa
http://www.kabissa.org

Joomla Website, Mailman mailing list server, seeking SMF/Mailman integration a la Fud Forum (http://www.fudforum.org).

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Eternity

February 06, 2006, 05:29:01 PM #102 Last Edit: February 06, 2006, 05:30:45 PM by Eternity
Quote from: Tobias Eigen on February 06, 2006, 04:45:22 PM
Hi Eternity -

This has nothing to do with what you're trying to do. It is a gateway tool between email mailing lists and SMF.

I am indeed still helping digitalgraal to test it, and eager for it to be functioning as soon as possible.

Cheers,

Tobias

Thanks Tobias sorry about that thanks for your patience, yes I see what you mean upon reflection.  I do like the idea of weekly digests though with the most popular threads on them.  I can identify with some of what you are saying, regarding the email posting and can see the advantages it could hold.  Could be very useful,  I find it easy to read emails from my phone but I don't think I would be able to browse a forum or post on it from my phone that would be a bit too much I think.  Reading digests in email format and texting though an email post would be possible though.  Good for people living in rural areas possibly if they have access to a WAP phone.  But good luck with it anyhow let me know how it goes cause I may still like to utilise it.   ;D ;D ;D ;D
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karldied

Tobias, and Digitalgrall,

I'm confused. Are you working on the original CM2F by digitalgraal, or the completed mod named emailpost.php that Grudge published which is currently in v1.02 for RC1 and RC2, or have these been merged?

-Karl

Quote from: Tobias Eigen on February 06, 2006, 04:45:22 PM
Hi Eternity -

This has nothing to do with what you're trying to do. It is a gateway tool between email mailing lists and SMF.

I am indeed still helping digitalgraal to test it, and eager for it to be functioning as soon as possible.

Cheers,

Tobias

Eternity

Quote from: karldied on February 06, 2006, 09:35:10 PM
Tobias, and Digitalgrall,

I'm confused. Are you working on the original CM2F by digitalgraal, or the completed mod named emailpost.php that Grudge published which is currently in v1.02 for RC1 and RC2, or have these been merged?

-Karl


Thanks Karl let me check out that mod and see if it does what I am looking for. 
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karldied

Although this functionality was declined as a feature, Grudge created it as a mod. I compiled a summary including four other related threads here:

www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=57890.msg479009#msg479009

I suggest making posts in the new topic. -Karl

samliew

My suggestions to prevent/minimize the security issue:

  • Replies by email has to be made within a time limit (e.g.: 6 hours).
  • Any replies by email has longer 'cooldown' time (like 1 hour) before can reply to another post by email.
  • Security key (random generated number) embedded in action link sent to email. (SMF DB stores key and checks referrer)


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Tobias Eigen

Hey -

Yahoogroup like functionality remains a topic of interest for me, though I think it seems unlikely that this will come to pass in the SMF community at this stage. Pity.

For what it's worth, I am not as anxious about security as other SFMers - all of this seems like overkill for the very open online community I am interested in supporting with yahoogroup like functionality.

I actually am currently trying out yahoogroups again, and am intrigued by how very basic the functionlaity is that it offers compared to SMF. Yet they offer tried and true plain vanilla listserv functionality and are massively successful. Go figure.

Cheers,

Tobias
Kabissa - Space for Change in Africa
http://www.kabissa.org

Joomla Website, Mailman mailing list server, seeking SMF/Mailman integration a la Fud Forum (http://www.fudforum.org).

http://del.icio.us/tobiaseigen/mail2forum

MissyKatt

Hi Tobias, and everyone,

I'm so glad to see this topic being discussed b/c I'd love to see email-SMF bridged as well.

I currently have a large list on yahoo w/ 50% on email.

I'm not looking for bi-directionality b/c people don't trim their posts prior to replying, so I installed php + m2f, then tinkered around w/ it to disallow incoming email.  I'd rather use SMF, hence my being here.  It's far superior but the mod Grudge and Unknown worked on isn't going to work for me as I want all msgs posted to the forum to be delivered to email subscribers.

BTW, for anyone interested, m2f is fantastic.  A subscriber can choose which forum/fora msgs come from thereby customizing, and cutting down on what they consider "noise".  Also php has a super digest mod that I installed. 

However, I ran into a huge problem w/ my server b/c # of outgoing emails is capped at 500/hr.  I'd hit that # very quickly, so I'm now backtracking and looking for a way to still be able to provide forum + digest + individual email option.

I haven't found a digest mod for SMF.  Did I miss it?  Anyway, I love SMF and before moving my list over to php would rather exhaust all possibilities w/ SMF.

If anyone has any ideas as to how to deal w/ the msg delivery problem, I'd love to hear your thoughts.  Thank you so much for reading:)

agridoc

SMF has now the possibilities of sending the message content with notifications, if so selected in Profile.

See also Post from Email http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=168

I haven't checked this mod.

Attachments are not sent with notifications.

I had a Yahoo! group for 5 years. They have made improvements but SMF in whole is far superior and of course hasn't advertisements.  ;)
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crafty1

would the above mod work with the current version of 1.1.4 ?
as this would be very useful.
thanks...Lou

Voyeurette

 I was told the "post from Email" that Grudge had for earlier versions did not work with 1.1.4 (which is what I have also)

The yahoo group I'm trying to move over to SMF is resisting the change pretty drastically and since it is a private group, if I cannot get them to change, the board will "die".    (   Emotional accusations have been flying about wanting the yahoo group to "die"...  sheesh...  some people just do NOT want to even try to see how much better the forum would work for them  )

If anyone finds a solution, please let us who need one know !!

Thanks

agridoc

Voyeurette, I had a switch from a Yahoo! group two and a half years ago.

My old Yahoo! group had about 198 members and 1560 messages in 5 years. Two and a half  after switching my SMF forum has 1.440 members,  34.517 messages and more than 2000 messages each month (I would be much more satisfied with less and better quality  ;D ). Also my site is in the Top 100 Aviation sites now, something I had never imagined off.

What is more important I believe that SMF is most valuable to achieve my site's targets.

My site is not just SMF but the heart and most active part is the forum. The results were achieved with hard work and SMF proved to be one of the most valuable tools.

I had exhausted the possibilities of my Yahoo! group before switching. It's a good service, free, doesn't need much to operate but has quite a few limitations. I really liked the email and calendar possibilities.

SMF alone is not enough. It needs a good preparation and presentation. I believe your members must see a well organized for your needs SMF forum to be convinced.

This is my personal experience, you must judge the possibilities.

In the new SMF versions a member has the choice to receive notifications, including the message's contents, by email, unformatted and without attachments. However he/she will not have the possibility to post via email.
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newartco

Hi,
I have the same problem having 700 customers who'd like to contribute to my forum, but haven't got the time to login and do all this writing. Email post in SMF would be great (cause they can just ad me to thier distribution list). I looked at solutions at Wordpress and Drupal wich both have excellent mods. However, Drupal has problems with attachments and Wordpress is struggling with the body text of a message leaving only subject line and attachments.

Gues this is a waiting game untilo someone comes up with a script that actually works......

Good luck
KLaus (www.newartco.net)

drroot

Similar case here.

Well, it can be simpler.

People here are costumed to use mailing list, so to transfer them to a forum, we need a transition period.

If we could forward every post, from a normal subscriber of a mailing list, to a board of SMF would be great, since then people won't need to receive unwanted emails everyday.

And we don't need to tell users the email address we use for the subscription of the mailing list, so there's no spam-issue here.


Arantor

Note that this is in the 'declined' feature list. It won't be added to SMF at this time, nor likely in the future.
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