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Can topic startes edit their own topics in Other Paid Services/Items for sale

Started by Doug Heffernan, January 29, 2022, 06:14:35 AM

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Doug Heffernan

Can topic startes edit their own topics in Can topic startes edit their own topics in  Other Paid Services/Items for sale forum?

The way it is now one can not edit their own topic(s) in that forum after a while.

I have posted a topic there and now I have made a few changes to the mod that I am selling, but I can not edit the original post and update it with the new details and attachments.

Can you please consider allowing us to edit our own topics in that forum? Thank you in advance for your answer.

Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen

Would make sense IMO, will look in to it. (You won't believe how complicated our permission sets are. :D )
For now, if you want something changed you can report your post with the requested change.
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Doug Heffernan

Quote from: Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen on January 29, 2022, 06:22:14 AMWould make sense IMO, will look in to it. (You won't believe how complicated our permission sets are. :D )
For now, if you want something changed you can report your post with the requested change.


Many thanks for your answer. I really appreciate it :)

Douglas

Actually, when I had that forum set up, it was set up that way, specifically to prevent a bait and switch (designed to help protect the end users).

I would hate to see this policy changed, honestly.
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Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen

Okay, sadly I don't think this is easily possible. You do have permission to edit your own posts, but because the time limit for edits is forum wide, you would need higher permissions to edit after the time limit. Any change would have gone through the team anyway, and I would not have been comfortable to just change this on my own.

Quote from: Douglas on January 29, 2022, 06:29:36 AMActually, when I had that forum set up, it was set up that way, specifically to prevent a bait and switch (designed to help protect the end users).
This is a good point as well, didn't think of that. Though, if we did remove the time limit the current permissions would actually allow editing.
Slava
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Doug Heffernan

Quote from: Douglas on January 29, 2022, 06:29:36 AMActually, when I had that forum set up, it was set up that way, specifically to prevent a bait and switch (designed to help protect the end users).

I would hate to see this policy changed, honestly.

What do you mean by that, bait and switch? Can you please explain?

Doug Heffernan

Quote from: Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen on January 29, 2022, 06:29:58 AMOkay, sadly I don't think this is easily possible. You do have permission to edit your own posts, but because the time limit for edits is forum wide, you would need higher permissions to edit after the time limit. Any change would have gone through the team anyway, and I would not have been comfortable to just change this on my own.

No worries. Thank you for looking into it though.

Arantor

Bait and switch in this context: something gets posted that is harmless, approved by the team because it looks safe, and is then later changed through editing to a be something quite different.

The expression in general is that it's a trick, where the trickster lays out a good thing (the bait) but when anyone actually goes to take it up they find what they get isn't nearly as good, because it's been switched out for something else.

Doug Heffernan

Quote from: Arantor on January 29, 2022, 07:05:33 AMBait and switch in this context: something gets posted that is harmless, approved by the team because it looks safe, and is then later changed through editing to a be something quite different.

The expression in general is that it's a trick, where the trickster lays out a good thing (the bait) but when anyone actually goes to take it up they find what they get isn't nearly as good, because it's been switched out for something else.

I see what you mean. It makes sense, but a better solution imho is to place the first post in moderation again once it has been edited, rather than closing off the edit completely. It will cut down on multiple posts whenever something new has been added.

Anyways, thank you for the explanation Arantor. I will mark this as solved.

Arantor

I'm not sure you can actually do that off hand. I don't remember if editing a post that, on creation would have been moderated, returns it to moderation - at least in SMF. (My world is so blurred now I can't remember.)

Doug Heffernan

Quote from: Arantor on January 29, 2022, 07:16:34 AMI'm not sure you can actually do that off hand. I don't remember if editing a post that, on creation would have been moderated, returns it to moderation - at least in SMF. (My world is so blurred now I can't remember.)

Not with the current permissions no. I guess it will require custom coding to set it up that way.

Steve

Quote from: Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen on January 29, 2022, 06:29:58 AMThough, if we did remove the time limit the current permissions would actually allow editing.
I would argue against that for the same reason Douglas brought up.

@Doug Heffernan - If you posted (or in my case, even PM'd me) the changes you want, a team member will do it for you, as Lex indicated.
Please do not PM me for support.

Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen

Oh, I'm not suggesting we remove the limit - I know it's there for a reason and while I don't like it, I agree with the reasoning.
Slava
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Doug Heffernan

Quote from: Steve on January 29, 2022, 11:03:31 AM
Quote from: Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen on January 29, 2022, 06:29:58 AMThough, if we did remove the time limit the current permissions would actually allow editing.
I would argue against that for the same reason Douglas brought up.

@Doug Heffernan - If you posted (or in my case, even PM'd me) the changes you want, a team member will do it for you, as Lex indicated.

Thank you. I will do that.

Quote from: Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen on January 29, 2022, 11:08:30 AMOh, I'm not suggesting we remove the limit - I know it's there for a reason and while I don't like it, I agree with the reasoning.

While it is a tiny inconvenience not to having the option to update the original post with the new changes, the reasoning behind the limit is very valid. I did not know why it was set up like this, but now I know.

Thank you to all who took the time to reply and explain things. Much appreciated.

Douglas

Quote from: Doug Heffernan on January 29, 2022, 07:10:25 AMI see what you mean. It makes sense, but a better solution imho is to place the first post in moderation again once it has been edited, rather than closing off the edit completely. It will cut down on multiple posts whenever something new has been added.
... which would add more work to an already overworked team. Not sure that's the best route to go.
Doug Hazard
* Full Stack (Web) Developer for The Catholic Diocese of Richmond
(20+ Diocesan sites, 130+ Church sites & 24 School sites)
* Sports Photographer and Media Personality
* CFB Historian
* Tech Admin for one 1M+ post, one 2M+ post and one 10M+ post sites (last two are powered by multiple servers)
* WordPress Developer (Junkie / Guru / Maven / whatever)

Doug Heffernan

Quote from: Douglas on February 07, 2022, 06:02:02 AM
Quote from: Doug Heffernan on January 29, 2022, 07:10:25 AMI see what you mean. It makes sense, but a better solution imho is to place the first post in moderation again once it has been edited, rather than closing off the edit completely. It will cut down on multiple posts whenever something new has been added.
... which would add more work to an already overworked team. Not sure that's the best route to go.

I agree. Especially now with 2.1. final, hopefully, around the corner.

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