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SMF Bridge for Joomla! Discontinued

Started by 青山 素子, July 24, 2007, 11:39:51 PM

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M3g4d37h

Quote from: joomla on July 30, 2007, 05:59:43 PM
QuoteI'm not surprised that team members have left the J! team.

ONE person left, just to set the record straight. Marko was also not able to attend our summit where we thrashed out this issue before releasing to the public.

In any case, it's a free world, and I hope you find a open source CMS that suits your needs.
QuoteIt's a shame how people can take a perfectly good thing that works perfectly well, then break it.
You might like to look into what is 'broken'. When you do, you will see the reasons were based on concern for you, the end users website security. In any case, the bridge was not pulled due to the changes in 1.0.13 Joomla, so I think this is taking this thread off topic.

All the best.

Point well taken, and I must apologize -- Igniting a firestorm is the last thing I had on my mind.

My intent was simply to so say that many of us end users are exasperated by all of this.  When we are told that these things are going to work out (great rift), we expect it -- Not that we have any right to, mind you.

I will qualify my remarks also by saying that the couple of times that I asked for help, it was forthcoming and polite.

Part of this may be my take on the world. I was taught and hold the view that we live in a results-oriented world, and when the debate becomes somewhat convoluted as this has, I see scores of end users scratching their head and shrugging their shoulders. All the debate in the world won't resolve any issue, unless the core participants come together and hash things out in a forthright and direct manner, without ego.

I love J! and I look forward to the future of J!, and I hope that all of this will get worked out.

Conscience is the inner voice which warns us that someone may be looking. -- Henry Louis Mencken

joomla

I agree with you.. and I'm not going to explain why this turned into a bigger issue than it needed to, it happened, we never wanted it to, time to move forward.

We live in a results orientated world.. some of the results I have already heard happening are great. The future is bright, the world is not ending.

Thanks for your well thought out commendation and input. I mean it. :)
Brad Baker
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M3g4d37h

Quote from: joomla on July 30, 2007, 08:08:43 PM
I agree with you.. and I'm not going to explain why this turned into a bigger issue than it needed to, it happened, we never wanted it to, time to move forward.

We live in a results orientated world.. some of the results I have already heard happening are great. The future is bright, the world is not ending.

Thanks for your well thought out commendation and input. I mean it. :)

And by the same token, I'm sorry for the misunderstanding.  I truly hope this works itself out.  If so, we're all winners for the effort.
Conscience is the inner voice which warns us that someone may be looking. -- Henry Louis Mencken

TrueSatan

Both SMF and Joomla are products in sectors where they have competitors...one of the many things SMF can offer is easy integration with other products via its API and official bridge codes...this gives it an advantage over, at least some (if not most) of its competition. Joomla, as evidenced by joomla's posts appears to be stuck in a position where its competitors are able to make it far easier for other products to integrate with them.

Many, many users have complained about the inflexible attitude shown by Joomla...perhaps you have little choice but to take such a stance but it is viewed in a negative manner by many users.

You appear to feel that exceptions to the GPL are, somehow, a dilution of your ideals whereas other CMS projects appear willing to grant them in the interests of giving their users what they want. Users don't seem to be being told that the situation is unfortunate and you'd love to be able to give them what they want but you're unable to do so right now because of some licensing problems that you're working your hardest to resolve...in my opinion the tone of the debate has felt, to many of those involved from outside of the Joomla team (judging by their postings), more to be Joomla adopting a rigid stance and expecting everyone else to do their bidding.

At the very least you have some serious PR damage limitation to do.

Thantos

I'd like to thank you all for taking the time to respond to this topic.  Quite a bit of good has come out of this topic but it has gotten to the point of talking in circles.  As such I am closing this topic so we can all move forward.

At this time SMF does not have any plans for releasing a Joomla! bridge.  If an adequate solution is found to the license problem we will update you all at that time.  For now we suggest that you all assume that no further bridges will be made available.

Thantos

As stated earlier we were in communication with the Joomla! team in regards to building a bridge that was compatible with their license.  The exchange is now over and, sadly, we have decided that the cost of building such a bridge is too great.  We understand that this comes as a great disappointment to you.

I would like to thank you all for your understanding in this issue.  You all have been a beacon of understanding and respect.

We would like to thank Joomla! for their cooperation in this manner and wish them the best of luck in their future endeavors.

Please note that we will continue to provide support in the Joomla Bridge Support.

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