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Re: Editing someone else's post

Started by Suki, September 05, 2013, 09:44:50 AM

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Suki

Bloc, you misunderstand me, I wasn't the one who said anything about social networking, you did, I don't want to build a facebook clone either, never said that.

I'm not "dispelased" I just see thinks can be improved, I never ever used the word "perfect" or "quality" neither. The current codebase is truly unmaintainable, let alone for a project without enough man-power, trying to make it more re-usable is hardly what I call been perfect or improve its quality.

And thanks for the advice, its been long ago since I'm following my idea,  it hasn't anything to do with forums or "pure forums" or facebook clones, is a blog and not, I don't want to innovate or re-invent the wheel I just like to code something I will use. Using Ruby/jekyll combo I was able to set a simple blog page with all I wanted to have within minutes, well, it was about 2 weeks, most of that time was me struggling with the command line :P

However, this isn't about my goal or what I want, last time I check I don't own SMF nor I'm involved with it, I'm offering alternatives to continue with its development. Alternatives based on knowing the state SMF currently is, if they have a healthy and numerous group of devs I wouldn't even mention the word framework and I don't mind SMF staying as just a pure forum either.

I'm not looking at what SMF should be but rather what base will it chose to get there. I know perfectly well my ideas are going more into "Revolution" (start fresh or re-implement the core) and SMF has chose "Evolution"(extend the current codebase)  instead. Thats also fine, the current codebase can still last at least for another 5, maybe 10 years if there is enough will and users can stay happy with a few features been released every once in awhile.


If you pop out from the SMF bubble you will realize that it isn't as popular as you might think it is.
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Quote from: Arantor on September 06, 2013, 02:18:11 PM
See, that's mostly a case of refactoring, not writing code and then testing it, retesting it etc.
It may not be "write code", but testing and restesting and testing it again is not only important, but fundamental even when you only "refactor".

At least when I write part of the refactoring. :P


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Sure it is, but it's a much smaller amount of effort in general, you're only really testing that things get called in the right place, the right order and that the right things return the right values. You don't need to do the same depth of testing end to end that you would from writing from scratch.
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Quote from: Suki on September 06, 2013, 02:22:40 PM
Bloc, you misunderstand me, I wasn't the one who said anything about social networking, you did, I don't want to build a facebook clone either, never said that.

I'm not "dispelased" I just see thinks can be improved, I never ever used the word "perfect" or "quality" neither. The current codebase is truly unmaintainable, let alone for a project without enough man-power, trying to make it more re-usable is hardly what I call been perfect or improve its quality.

And thanks for the advice, its been long ago since I'm following my idea,  it hasn't anything to do with forums or "pure forums" or facebook clones, is a blog and not, I don't want to innovate or re-invent the wheel I just like to code something I will use. Using Ruby/jekyll combo I was able to set a simple blog page with all I wanted to have within minutes, well, it was about 2 weeks, most of that time was me struggling with the command line :P

However, this isn't about my goal or what I want, last time I check I don't own SMF nor I'm involved with it, I'm offering alternatives to continue with its development. Alternatives based on knowing the state SMF currently is, if they have a healthy and numerous group of devs I wouldn't even mention the word framework and I don't mind SMF staying as just a pure forum either.

I'm not looking at what SMF should be but rather what base will it chose to get there. I know perfectly well my ideas are going more into "Revolution" (start fresh or re-implement the core) and SMF has chose "Evolution"(extend the current codebase)  instead. Thats also fine, the current codebase can still last at least for another 5, maybe 10 years if there is enough will and users can stay happy with a few features been released every once in awhile.


If you pop out from the SMF bubble you will realize that it isn't as popular as you might think it is.
I am not even sure why I am arguing about the coding of SMF lol..but yeah, I know theres a lot to discover outside the SMF bubble. Its however, what I've chosen to focus on, since I know it so well. I don't think my work is going to be a more-popular-than-life in any shape or form..SMF itself have had its day, and I doubt any offspring of that can rival or surpass it.

But I enjoy immensely what I do right now, and thats all I require of it, on my own terms and following my own goals. :D (which i think was my main point actually).

Sorry if it felt like an attack, that was not the intention.

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