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SMF 2.1 Beta 3 Released

Started by Colin, May 31, 2017, 09:21:59 PM

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Arantor

Sure, for two reasons. 1, you don't have to leave the forum open in a tab to get notifications and 2, you don't have regular hits to the forum just to see if there are new notifications.
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d3vcho

1. Wouldn't make sense to just receive notifications when you are in the forum? I do receive push notifications from websites when I'm doing other things and I just disregard them.

2. Is the gap huge in terms of efficiency?
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Arantor

1. Um, no. If I care enough to get notifications, it's because I'm not on the forum and it's about pulling me back to the forum when I don't already have it open. That's what a surprising number of users care about. Consider especially this for Android users whose alternative is a native app to get notifications.

2. Hmm... how about the server doing 1 AJAX call vs every user who happens to have the forum open in their browser querying the server every 30 seconds?
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Gwenwyfar

Quote from: Arantor on February 02, 2019, 07:42:33 AM
Is it though? When you do the voting thing, you're asking for information. When you have a forum poll, you're explicitly asking other people for information.

Either way, it's not *pushed from the server* unlike XF's.
But by that logic, any question you make to anyone is a "poll". I'd draw the line on whether the questions are used to amass info (more than one person asked, and both linked together), instead of one single question that doesn't add up to anything.

Then again, maybe the english word is used in a less specific manner.

Quote1. Um, no. If I care enough to get notifications, it's because I'm not on the forum and it's about pulling me back to the forum when I don't already have it open. That's what a surprising number of users care about. Consider especially this for Android users whose alternative is a native app to get notifications.
Makes sense for a lot of people, but I'd also rather use it when the tab is open. I might be doing something else and don't want to be bothered. Though honestly I haven't used it anywhere to know how easy it is to change the browser settings to disable it.

Arantor

Desktop users really aren't the ones who benefit from this, this is for using mobile without you having to have a dedicated app.

Like having the benefits of Tapatalk without having it installed.
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Gwenwyfar

Guess not. And email notifications still do the job just fine for desktop.

Masterd

Quote from: Kindred on January 31, 2019, 11:38:27 AM
Why is is worrisome?

We have a VOLUNTEER staff.
"Real Life"TM ALWAYS comes first.

You can track the general progress on GitHub... and note that things HAVE BEEN progressing.

So, Instead of complaining how long it takes (which is actually counterproductive as it disheartens the people who are volunteering their own personal time to make and support SMF), you have a few choices:
- go to a paid software with a full-time, paid staff. They are likely to have more frequent releases.
- suggest that we release out software with major known issues (NOT GOING TO EVER HAPPEN)
- participate in the process. Download the daily build, install it, use the upgrader, find and report issues on GitHub.
- participate in the process. Look at the GitHub list. Develop code to address items on that list. Submit the code to GitHub.

You misunderstood. I'm not complaining. I've always had the feeling you automatically assume the worst in people. I don't know why that is. Cheer up. :)

It's worrisome because it is indicative of a lack of volunteers. A decade ago SMF (and by extension this community) was thriving. Now, well, it's still relatively strong, but it's a far cry from those days. Don't get me wrong, I dislike those who proclaim the inevitable death of SMF as much as you do, and I realize that people move on, I have, but the slow influx of new people is a bit disconcerting. I know it is not the best indicator, but just take a look at the statistics of this forum. It is very much alive, and will almost certainly be for the forseeable future, but it is in a constant decline. Food for thought. That is all.

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