Are there any finished sites with Mambo / smf and Coppermine integrated? Would love to see some examples up and runnibg!
Shameless plug: ;D
http://www.everything-science.com
Very nice orstio..... do you have coppermine as well?
what chat do you use?
is that a different calendar than smf?
can users only log in once?
gracias
anybody else have examples?
QuoteVery nice orstio..... do you have coppermine as well?
Yes, but it is only in the Mambo users menu, not viewable to public.
Quotewhat chat do you use?
Sigmachat, reading from the SMF user data for the login.
Quoteis that a different calendar than smf?
Yes, it is the Mambo events component.
Quotecan users only log in once?
Yes, one registration, and one login for Mambo, SMF, Sigmachat, and Coppermine.
Quotegracias
de nada
Quoteanybody else have examples?
Do a Google search for "com_smf". I was pleasantly surprised. ;)
This one was done very well:
http://www.loroadictos.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=45&
I have it running, although I am currently in the process of switching hosts..
http://www.turtleshellprod.com/mambo
I have mambo <-> SMF <-> Coppermine
and I'm currently using x7chat as well, that is linked to SMF.
And check mine :)
http://www.mixed-couples.nl/index.php?option=com_smf
Quote from: Orstio on November 06, 2004, 06:29:51 PM
This one was done very well:
http://www.loroadictos.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=45&
Thanks, I'm the owner of that site ;)
I found some troubles on integrated login, and modified a file. You can't find waht I modified here:
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=18940.0
Hope that helps. It's the only way it worked for me.
I'am getting session timeouts now (not me, but other users).
Trying to integrate coppermine also.
Ygriega.
Quote from: Ygriega on November 07, 2004, 06:33:47 AM
Quote from: Orstio on November 06, 2004, 06:29:51 PM
This one was done very well:
http://www.loroadictos.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=45&
Thanks, I'm the owner of that site ;)
I found some troubles on integrated login, and modified a file. You can't find waht I modified here:
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=18940.0
Hope that helps. It's the only way it worked for me.
I'am getting session timeouts now (not me, but other users).
Trying to integrate coppermine also.
Ygriega.
Try v2.03. It should fix both the login/logout and the session timeouts.
Your site looks great!
Yes, I found 2.03 one hour ago, and modified the code from header on mambo template.
It seems to work fine! Users din't find problems since then. ;D
I will test full 2.03 with another site (going from nuke to mambo).
Thanks for your great work!
Ygriega.
Quote from: kindred on November 06, 2004, 07:04:47 PM
I have it running, although I am currently in the process of switching hosts..
http://www.turtleshellprod.com/mambo
I have mambo <-> SMF <-> Coppermine
and I'm currently using x7chat as well, that is linked to SMF.
I really like how you have the login form horizontal on top of the forums. If you are willing to explain how to do this I will see if I can do it myself.
Great site!
Nice sites !! gracias! :D
Anymore!???
Well, as for the positioning of the login within the SMF window, that is determined by your SMF theme. In this case, I am using the Helios theme by Bloc.
Here's another one for you... Nothing fancy at the moment, but I'm still playing around too...
http://test.oldiesmann.us/mambo/
Hello,
Orstio, I replace the bridge with 2.04 beta and it seems to work perfectly.
You can see the result in:
http://www.loroadictos.com
http://www.yacomania.com
Or directly on forums:
http://www.loroadictos.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=45
http://www.yacomania.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=45
I'm working on Coppermine now:
Tested 1.4 cvs with mambo bridge with no good results.
1.4 with smf bridge works, but nearly all members had problems with uploads or comments.
I will test 1.3.2 with smf bridge.
Ygriega.
Oldiesman, Orstio, All
I recently enabled Mambo on my site an now I want to intergrate my SMF and Coppermine. Any help?
-Jazhawk
Ok, I found some mambo support here (http://www.mambers.com/showthread.php?t=19189) but I still need help with the bridge for smf.
-Jazhawk
Jazhawk, this really doesn't belong in this thread. there are about 10 different threads dicussing the integration of the SMF <-> Mambo bridge... this thread is theoretically a place for people to post their sites to show examples of the integration.
Oops. Sorry for the hijack attempt. I got carried away I guess.
-Jazhawk
Ok, here we go ;D
Another site. It's an english version from the spanish ones:
http://www.parrotaddict.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=41
It's empty (created yesterday)
Ygriega.
I shouldn't post this now, but if I don't I'll forget...
In two days from now, my new site will be released at http://www.chaindlk.com (you can't see it until then).
In my site I was able to integrate: Mambo + MOS' Community Builder component + SMF + PHPlist (a professional mailing list software for those who just can't do it with Mambo's mass-mailing function).
I don't need Coppermine (for now) so I didn't go there but in a few months I will be offering free email from my site so I will be integrating that as well.
The peculiarity of my integration is that I integrated MOS and SMF with the following features:
- you can register once for all four services
- you can browse and use the SMF forum outside of the MOS pages while keeping layout and functionality
- you can still use most of the SSI.php functions on MOS pages, on SMF pages, on pages that aren't neither MOS nor SMF
- you can log in from SMF pages, from MOS pages and from pages that aren't neither MOS nor SMF
- you can plug in MOS modules into SMF pages, MOS pages and pages that aren't neither MOS nor SMF
- you can change theme with just one click on all the pages (MOS, SMF and pages that are neither of the two) without having to go through either MOS' theme picker or SMF's theme selection process.
The whole thing is based on SSI.php and on Ortsio's spectacular work with just a few modifications and a template of my own that was born and built before the whole integration thing took place...
I don't have test accounts right now but if I remember I'll create one with username test and password test so that you can enter and see how the layout slightly changes once you are logged in.
Hope you'll like it.
2 days to go.
wow cant wait to check your site out marc... good luck! ;)
thanks, doing last things now
It's still fairly early, but we do have all these components installed, and an active community.
http://www.AlGore-08.com
I haven't found a way to integrate b2evolution (the blogging sytem) with the SMF user database... which would do wonders for me. <sigh>
There are many HTML problems and design issues under active and constant development by yours truly, but the excellent work by Oristo has made it easy to integrate Mambo to SMF, and Coppermine comes bridged to SMF out of the box.
Hopefully our site will eventually become a showcase site for the integration of these products, but I'll be the first to admit we aren't even close yet. Check again in 30-60 days and see if we pulled it off. 8)
my site is now live.
since it is public I would appreciate if you don't register dummy test accounts.
if you want to log in and see the graphic changes for the logged user you can use:
username: test
password: testing
and please remember to log out afterwards so that others can use the same log in too.
the url is:
http://www.chaindlk.com
Quote from: Dylan Malone on November 20, 2004, 02:26:11 PM
I haven't found a way to integrate b2evolution (the blogging sytem) with the SMF user database... which would do wonders for me. <sigh>
Check again in 30-60 days and see if we pulled it off. 8)
Hey Dylan, welcome to Simple Machines, good to see you here. Remember me from the post on dynamic content in static pages on the Mambers.com forum? I am actually going to write that tutorial now if I find some time today, so go back there to check on that...
As for your integration, I might be able to help you. Can't promise anything now but since you seem to have one or two months time (not to mention four years, unfortunately) I might be able to write a little bridge for you so you can have SMF and b2e integration. I am not familiar with b2e so I'd have to look at it first and confirm my availability but I am pretty confident I could do it.
Quote from: marcnyc on November 22, 2004, 09:52:05 AM
if you want to log in and see the graphic changes for the logged user
Neat trick. I'm confused though, how do you show logged in Users a completely different template than guests see? Is this a basic Mambo feature I never noticed in the Administrative back end somewhere?
QuoteHey Dylan, welcome to Simple Machines, good to see you here. Remember me from the post on dynamic content in static pages on the Mambers.com forum? I am actually going to write that tutorial now if I find some time today, so go back there to check on that...
As for your integration, I might be able to help you. Can't promise anything now but since you seem to have one or two months time (not to mention four years, unfortunately) I might be able to write a little bridge for you so you can have SMF and b2e integration. I am not familiar with b2e so I'd have to look at it first and confirm my availability but I am pretty confident I could do it.
I'll be looking for your thoughts on how to get dynamic Mambo content to appear on a non-Mambo page-- there are several places where this would really help me.
As for the b2evolution integration, it's an important project I think. My searching of Mambers.com and the official Mamboserver forums found a lot of threads by people complaining that there are no powerful blogging systems available as either Mambo components, or as bridged software.
I evaluated lots of Blogging systems and felt like b2evo was a leading system with an active development community. It seems like a good choice to become the next success story like the SMF / Mambo bridge is becoming. Of course, if we had a bridge between b2evo and SMF (like Coppermine) that would be sufficient for most of my needs. (Mambo integration would be my fist choice, but as long as they share user databases life is good)
Hats off to all of you helping make these products work in concert.
Hi dylan, showing logged users differently is something I have written myself, it's not a Mambo feature, especially because (I am not sure you actually noticed) only half of my site is Mambo (whatever you see in the folder called /content/) while the other half is not Mambo based, therefore I made Mambo (as well as SMF) work with my template, as opposed to the opposite. Mambo is my slave, I don't like it to be the master of all features of the site, because that would force me to use abnoxious iframe wrappers for all my non-MOS pages such as custom written scripts like the one in the /reviews/ folder or in the /interviews/ folder.
Anywa life sucks a little less today. I've had 15 new registrations after less than 24 hours from the official launch and I haven't even sent a newsletter to my (also) integrated mailing list yet...
As for MOS content in non-MOS pages I have published a tutorial at Mambers.com (http://www.mambers.com/showthread.php?p=74431#post74431).
But let's not forget that this is not a MOS forum but a SMF forum so let's stay on topic... I'll bring the discussion back on track by saying:
SMF rocks! I love it! It's gorgeously beautiful! :-)
Quote from: marcnyc on November 22, 2004, 09:52:05 AM
my site is now live.
It's looking great :) My compliments!
Greetings Abedie
Thanks
Very nice work, Marcnyc. 8)
Well, again, thanks again ;-)
Quote from: marcnyc on November 22, 2004, 09:52:05 AM
my site is now live.
It looks good. You need to tweak the forum theme though to bring the News and Stats Boxes fully back on the screen in IE.
This reminds me that I must get back up to speed on this bridge.
What exactly are you talking about?
I had tested it with IE but I didn't find any problems. Can you be more specific please?
If I go to your site and click on Community to display the forum, the 'News Box' and 'Key Stats' blocks overhang the right hand edge of the screen by a small amount. For example, at the moment all I can see of the first line of the Key Stats box is:
849 Posts in 285 Topics by 215 Memb
Neither box shows it's righthand edge (and there's no horizontal scroll bar to display the missing bits).
If you look in the SMF theme files (not sure which one without access to my source code) you'll see references to a problem with table widths in IE. If I'm remembering correctly you need to set the width to 100%, otherwise IE uses 106% which pushes the edge of the table off screen.
I believe I did set all my tables to 100%, if not to 98%, but I know that the side module boxes on the right are set to 150 pixels.
I'll investigate this but I'd like to know what screen resolution you are using.
I tested this on 1280x... but I have also made provisions for 800x600 screens. The site detects the resolution and if it is less or equal to 800x600 it will remove the right column all together (which tells me that your resolution is higher), will shrink the top banner and everything should fit on a screen (as long as the browser is opened all across the screen).
What seems weird is that I had made provisions for no right column at all in the forum pages, in order to leave more space to the forum itself, it's strange that you are seeing those right columns in the community pages. I have to research that...
I'm not seeing the right columns. I just see the left column + forum. The boxes I'm referring to are the SMF 'Key Stats' and 'News Box'. I think the PC I was using earlier was 1280*1024. I've just tried it on this PC which is definitely 1280*1024. I lose the extra bit of the boxes when using IE6 but not when using FF1.
Take a look in the default SMF index.template.php theme file and search for 108% to find the bit of code that I'm talking about. I found that I also had to do that fix for IE6 as well as IE4 and IE5.
would it be possible to get a screenshot of the problem?
you can PM it to me or email it to webmaster at chaindlk dot org
that would be very kind
maybe we shoule take this to the private messanging area, since I doubt anybody cares about my problems
A screenshot is on it's way via email.
Quote from: marcnyc on November 19, 2004, 11:28:33 AM
I shouldn't post this now, but if I don't I'll forget...
In two days from now, my new site will be released at http://www.chaindlk.com (you can't see it until then).
Nice site man. I've got a Mambo/SMF site going on for our (Nashville, TN) goth/industrial/darkwave scene here. It isn't nearly as graphically polished (yet), but it works.
http://www.nashvillegothic.com
I don't have coppermine in use ATM, but that will possibly be coming later. I'm still evaluating some different gallery options and I haven't decided yet. It will be a lot of work when I implement it....I have about a zillion pictures waiting to be posted that were held over from the last galleries we had (before the switch to Mambo/SMF). I'm dreading it.
Either way, Mambo and SMF both rock. I am continually impressed with it for ease of install, configuration, and options over the CMS and forums I used to use (php-nuke and phpbb *shudder*).
Wow cool, it's nice that through SMF forums we even found two sites with SMF/MOS that are about the same type of music, what a coincidence! ;-)
I didn't know there was such a scene in Nashville ;-)
That looks really great, Nephilim. :D
Quote from: marcnyc on December 01, 2004, 07:58:08 PM
Wow cool, it's nice that through SMF forums we even found two sites with SMF/MOS that are about the same type of music, what a coincidence! ;-)
I didn't know there was such a scene in Nashville ;-)
Believe me, I didn't know it either when I moved here about 8 years ago. I was very suprised that the scene here was so large. When the previous admin of the community site gave up the site about 3 years ago (she moved away) I took over and went through several changes in an attempt to bring more functionality to the users (it used to be just a message board and nothing else). I've finally settled on Mambo and SMF and it has been pretty smooth sailing since then. Of course, now that I say that everything will break in one day. :)
Quote from: Nephilim on December 02, 2004, 11:19:25 AM
Believe me, I didn't know it either when I moved here about 8 years ago. I was very suprised that the scene here was so large. When the previous admin of the community site gave up the site about 3 years ago (she moved away) I took over and went through several changes in an attempt to bring more functionality to the users (it used to be just a message board and nothing else). I've finally settled on Mambo and SMF and it has been pretty smooth sailing since then. Of course, now that I say that everything will break in one day. :)
If you give me your FTP's username and password I'll make sure it breaks in less than a day... oh no wait, let me guess, your username is: DonWilliams and your password is JohnnyCash, right? I'm loggin in... ;-)
Quote from: marcnyc on December 02, 2004, 11:37:54 AM
... oh no wait, let me guess, your username is: DonWilliams and your password is JohnnyCash, right? I'm loggin in... ;-)
LOL!
I went though a bit of culture shock after moving here, especially after living in places like Manhattan, Toronto, and New Orleans. Nashville isn't bad though, as suprising as that is and not to mention that if you are a musician, it's hard to sneeze and
not hit a recording studio.
Quote from: Orstio on November 06, 2004, 12:59:28 AM
Shameless plug: ;D
http://www.everything-science.com
Looks great, what template are you using? Or did you design your own?
I used the Blue Dot template, with a few modifications.
I am aware of that actually, which is why I'd live to visit some day... see this is me (www.marc-us.com), now you know why I know ;-)
Quote from: marcnyc on December 02, 2004, 04:14:16 PM
I am aware of that actually, which is why I'd live to visit some day... see this is me (www.marc-us.com), now you know why I know ;-)
Sweet.
got a ways to go to get it fully functional but I'll throw up a link for a pretty much not modified SMF/mambo/coppermine install (thanks Orstio)
http://rivercityrockcrawlers.com/mambo/
Quote from: BrandonMiller on December 03, 2004, 03:57:14 PM
got a ways to go to get it fully functional but I'll throw up a link for a pretty much not modified SMF/mambo/coppermine install (thanks Orstio)
http://rivercityrockcrawlers.com/mambo/
scratch that, and replace coppermine with gallery ;)
I just got started with Mambo and SMF, as we needed a more robust forum for facileforms.biz. I can not move the facileforms site over until I get a way to move all the posts that currently reside in simpleboard.
But I am also playing with it on a test site for a project I am working on with some kiteboarders.
it is at www.cyprex.biz
use the test link, as the forum link hooks to the simpleboard forum. I need a way to make SMF integrate tighter with the template. Is there a way to get rid of the header graphics in templates and remove the user greetings since the user is logged into Mambo, and have the nav buttons closer to the forum index.
I have been hoping to find a SMF template that was made with a tight integration in mind as apposed to most of the templates that are designed to give a stand alone look.
Is there a good resource for editing templates?
Thanks, great work on this bridge. It is sure to improve the position Mambo and SMF
I just finished (well, I'm wondering if I'm ever finished ::), I just remember I forgot to add a gallery ) my mambo-smf site:
http://www.taxibalk.nl
And a week ago I didn't even know mambo excisted...
Quote from: tjay on December 15, 2004, 08:46:41 PM
But I am also playing with it on a test site for a project I am working on with some kiteboarders.
Hi tjay, I am interested in your project because I am a kiteboarder myself. What is it about?
Quote from: marcnyc on December 16, 2004, 09:44:57 AM
Quote from: tjay on December 15, 2004, 08:46:41 PM
But I am also playing with it on a test site for a project I am working on with some kiteboarders.
Hi tjay, I am interested in your project because I am a kiteboarder myself. What is it about?
Well I hope to be moving to pensacola in mid 05, I started talking with a group out of Virginia that are currently using yahoo groups. They want a full blows site. So I am using that site as a prototype for what will become the Virginia Site when it all comes together.
Where do you board??
I am in NY where the scene is lame. There is no group, people seem not to connect. There aren't many (nice) beaches either. And they are forbidden to board-sports in the summer. Currently I am boarding in Italy, until January.
Might as well join the fun. :P I have SMF, Mambo and Coppermine all integrated.
http://www.eliterides.com
User: test
Pass: test
Bleh I see the same thing on every single mambo + SMF site out there. They look ugly and entirely too busy. I really want to take advantage of Mambo, but it seems like overall it's not adding any value to the websites I'm looking at, and more importantly it's disrupting the consistency that SMF provides.
Does anybody have a single example of a website that uses a more minimalistic, clean, and streamlined approach of Mambo AND actually flows into the forum without overloading the visitor with useless information and obsessively annoying banner ads?
This is totally not meant to be rude *AT ALL*, but I'm trying desperately to find something that really shows it off. I've also noticed this problem with Mambo in general (hell, look at their homepage).
Maybe it would be helpful if you could show us an example of what you are looking for using SMF and any other CMS. I love looking at new ideas.
For me I find the simplemachines.org to be somewhat busy and confusing. It is a matter of perspective and what you are used to. In order to blend SMF into a mambo site and make it not look like too much going on I have found it very necessary to turn off a lot of SMF information as it detracted from the news and content, ie articles. I see the main function of a site to be content presentation and forums as a communication element to encourage discussion and traffic at the site.
That is just me, others will want to build everything around the forum, that is good too.
All in what the purpose of the site is, and how the designer is approaching the task
It is a great discussion topic, I look forward to hearing what others think
Quote from: Radianation on December 23, 2004, 03:41:19 PM
Bleh I see the same thing on every single mambo + SMF site out there. They look ugly and entirely too busy. I really want to take advantage of Mambo, but it seems like overall it's not adding any value to the websites I'm looking at, and more importantly it's disrupting the consistency that SMF provides.
I really don't think this can be attributed to Mambo, the same could probably be said of integrating SMF with any CMS. It's more a matter of design principles.
There's no reason why a Mambo site can't use SMF as a seamlessly integrated forum. As TJay pointed out, this is an issue of choosing what features from SMF or Mambo you want to keep, undoubtedly they do sometimes clash.
Quote from: Radianation on December 23, 2004, 03:41:19 PMDoes anybody have a single example of a website that uses a more minimalistic, clean, and streamlined approach of Mambo AND actually flows into the forum without overloading the visitor with useless information and obsessively annoying banner ads?
Well, I'm not sure if you'd place my site in that category, as we've attempted to design the site for the lowest common denominator of web resolutions, 800x600, so the area used for the forum is somewhat small.
http://reviewgamer.com
I'm actually planning to use the box I designed for the forum integration in the main review content areas of the site as well, to further extend the impression of a seamless integration rather than seperate forum + cms. I think this is one of the major flaws in many integrations, where the forum itself looks too much like it is a seperate entity.
Also, my integration puts all of the SMF header stuff into the Mambo template header, so there's no ugly html page within content that many Mambo sites get stuck with.
Anyway, that's my example. ;)
Cheers,
Damian
idigital - brilliant site. I'm very impressed. Thank you for the example.
tjay - you bring up a great point. SMF forums *can* be really busy and that's why I love the ability to theme them to your desire. When looking at SMF as a whole, I find that it really has all of the main/basic features covered, and with the themes ability and package manager I can integrate a lot of extras that might not come with a factory installation. SSI lets me use SMF content/features all over my site, allowing me to create my own "extra" pages while maintaining the same layout, design, and consistency.
What I've noticed while tinkering with Mambo is that it feels very clunky, like any other CMS I've worked with in the past (nuke variations, etc.)... I was able to get my SMF loaded into the Mambo and of course without modifying my SMF themes it looked like junk. Then I started looking around at the mambo features. Initially I wanted to investigate mambo for the purpose of having nicer profiles, blogging ability, better private messages, and most importantly the ability to link news articles on the homepage of the site that would then back-link to SMF forum posts.
Well... Their messaging system wasn't that great. The extended profiles feature didn't work by default (and I can extend them rather easily in SMF), and then we have the theme issues... I like having the ability for users to be able to skin my site, but Mambo didn't appear to want to talk nicely with SMF in this manner (same problem with coppermine, oh well).
When it's all said and done I don't really see any reason to use Mambo as opposed to writing a few custom pages with SSI that can do everything using SMF. I can (in theory) use SMF as a blogger. I can use it as a news posting machine and pull those items for the homepage, restricting the ability to post in that forum to moderators or news writers. It just really didn't see to add anything new, and in the end it's another problem to worry about when upgrading.
Most people appear to be using mambo to add some extra content to their site that uses SMF. What happened to writing some HTML in a PHP file, and using SSI? They aren't even utilizing the things mambo is supposed to be good for, and it's making their website look stupid (and busy).
/me steps off soapbox.
Thanks ;)
Yeah, it is true that people are either using SMF for a quick forum in their Mambo site, or using Mambo for some extra bits for SMF. But this has more to do with the partnership between the two being in it's early stages, and people not fully realising the potential of SSI and putting SMF features into Mambo and vice versa.
I think it will take a few months before there are good tips, tricks, SMF mods and Mambo modules and mambots to truly make full use of the two together.
For instance, once you have it bridged, there is nothing stopping some tricky hacking to allow any Mambo stuff within SMF or SMF stuff within Mambo. You could even hack the Mambo core to allow use of SMF user permissions (which isn't hard) or it's profiling.
I'm planning to create specialised SMF themes for Mambo, with custom hooks for a set of SMF "mambots" (mambo plugins) that will allow SMF to become much more a part of Mambo itself.
Basically, I think at this early point the only way to make the most of SMF + Mambo is to get down and dirty with the code, and SMF themes really allow this to be a lot easier than say hacking the Mambo core itself. SMF themes are truly a great way to create completely customised forums.
All that said, the SMF forum on RG is just a quick hack and some eye candy (even if it did take me a month) ;)
In the meantime, as you say, there's nothing stopping anyone from creating quite good sites using SMF theming and SSI. You could probably even create some kind of simple content management system using SSI and content taken from forum posts. I think someone actually did create a simple CMS with SMF, or yabbse, possibly it was Compuart?
Anyway, undoubtedly SMF is a very powerful and easy to use forum s/w and Mambo is a very powerful and easy to use CMS. The two will become much more in the future ;)
Cheers,
Damian
I agree that down the road (hopefully) the two will become more integrated and more people will be able to offer tips and tricks. I still do not see what a CMS (mambo, or any other) can really offer somebody already using SMF? The Mambots and what not... What can they do to make a website better? Even on your site I don't see a lot of stuff that appears to be mambo-specific. It looks fairly static less the SMF aspect. A clever theme could just as easily make all of that happen. What are you using Mambo for?
What am I using Mambo for? Everything! ;)
It's hell to update a content site by hand, so all of the review content is added in the backend on Mambo and dynamically inserted into the content. The reviews system, that is the scoring at the end of the reviews, I added into the Mambo code so it's easy for contributors to put in their scores for the game in the review editing area and it is dynamically displayed. The rating system for each game.
It's all based on a database, and I don't have the time to write something like that from scratch. Mambo, and any CMS, provides a modularity that is difficult to obtain without it.
Yeah, at the moment RG is still mostly eye candy, but eventually it will have full community features based around SMF+Mambo similar to the user toolbox IGN has and other big game sites.
The other thing that can be handy, which RG is not using yet, is the ability to let users submit content to the site from the frontend.
Really, Mambo is more of a web application framework that you can build anything on top of, but if you have the free time and determination you can of course code the same functionality from scratch in PHP.
Not me though ;)
Cheers,
Damian
I see, I guess that is a quick fix. What I'm thinking about doing is using specific forums kind of outside of the default SMF area (theme modification I suppose) that would be the NEWS on my site. The images would be attachments (with a modification to change where the default attachment is placed). The rating system would be a poll hack. Users could obviously reply to the news article and make a discussion... SSI has built in functions to include specific forum categories as "news" events on other pages. I don't see any reason for Mambo once again. Sorry =/
You most likely do not nee mambo.
What we are seeing here is the merging of two very different very good scripts. If you approach this from a forum > out position then SMF is apparently powerful enough that those with considerable knowlege of the script can build a CMS emulation built on a forum frame.
If you approach this from a CMS position, or in Mambos case a CMS/app framework then you can just as easily do without SMF and write your own forum IE simpleboard. In both cases you will end up with the same result
A powerful forum with content presentation management or
A great CMS with a built in forum
Both are workable and both are fine.
Many people choose mambo because it requires little knowledge of the core in order to get things done. Most of us, are not heavy coders. We are able to do things with Mambo and a little knowledge that we could not before.
Look at the number of products people are building for Mambo as a refrence. These are both comercial and non comercial projects.
As Mambo matures the components are getting more capable. For example. Look at facileforms.biz. Unitl 4.5.1 this type of powerful form building and even simpl applications development was not possible. In the next versions there will be more and more.
It sounds like SMF has built a hearty set of hooks and api that the SMF devotees are able to create solutions far beyond a forum. That is great. But could you put it in the hands of a new person and have them run with it??
Again this is somewhat a strange marriage, I can not speak to Ortismos vision or reason for providing the bridge. But many of us are here driven primarily by the need for a heartier forum than simpleboard. Now having been here a while I see how all that SMF is makes it overkill for just another Mambo Forum.
Your search for a reason to use Mambo, may not exist. I needed a better forum, You may not need a better CMS.
It is all good. And I still think we have not yet seen the full potential of the marriage. But I suspect in time we will. There are too many creative people working on this from both ends now that the door has been opened.
Respectfully
TJay
Oh I am still very interested in sites that might represent the concept you are looking for. I am currently working on something for a kiteboarding site with the Mambo SMF combo, and hey most great ideas are ones built from the ideas of others
Well, to be specific. I'm looking for something that has profiles and buddylists like Friendster, content on the homepage like any typical news site, and a forum backend that lets you tie everything together seamlessly.
If you look at my homepage, it's a very simple implementation of SSI from SMF. I've tried my best to integrate the forums with coppermine and a flashchat program. I just feel like I need something more. I was hoping that mambo would let me setup a platform so that down the road I can add new features to my site. I just haven't discovered those features or they do not exist.
So, for right now maybe I don't need Mambo. down the road I probably will. I want to know what lies "down the road" as a reason to make the switch now instead of later.
Well for profiles, you might want to look at the community builder component for Mambo. It allows you to set up custom profile fields, user groups and lists, integrate with MyPMS messaging system.
I have community builder on my test site, it is not anything to look at yet. I am still trying to stitch the pieces together myself.
I have managed to get SMF Mambo and Community builder to synch up using the SMF login.
To your point, tying the community builders profiling system to work more transparent with SMF and some sort of message system would be the bomb. ( I am not crazy about either Mambos or SMFs ) MyPMS is the best that I have found yet and I have considered paying for the pro version.
You can test that as well. I have hacked it on another site so that there is a graphic flashing light to alert the user their is a message. Still, I would love for that to be more robust.
There is a combination that will make the killer merge, and someone will come up with it.
By the way, have you had a look at www.mamboforge.net? that is where many of the add ons for Mambo can be found. I dont know to many people that use Mambo out of the box. It is but a frame for content mangement. The goodies come from the creative people making things that hang on the framework
Yeah I've been to mamboforge and found it a headache to pour over all of the content. Is there an easy way to see what a specific addon does? I usually go to the top downloads and click around a bit. The only way I can figure it out is to download it and then read the text file...
Well there is Mamboportal.com
and also at corephp.com there is a try before you download of many components
oops
I just checked corephp, steve who does that site has it down adding a bunch of stuff
the older version still works and a lot of the new components are ports to the newer version
tbd 4.5 1.0.9 link
While I don't want to get too far off topic, I still find the whole mambo admin interface overwhelming. I've been toying with it all day trying to just get a feel for it, and it just doesn't make sense. lol maybe I'm ignorant.
Nah just new to the interface. I get lost in the SMF admin too. I
YAY! For anybody following along here that might have been thinking the way I did... I'm totally stoked about Mambo now. I made my first "static content" item and added it to the menu. It took me about 30 seconds to create a "clan roster page" for my gaming group. I was able to use HTML and simply link the names to their profile page. I now see what the hell you guys mean about CMS. I'll post my site once I have it integrated with Mambo. Hopefully, it will be what I've been "thinking of" all along.
Radianation: If you feel that the forum wrapped in Mambo looks too busy, you can also integrate just the registration and login.
Quote from: Orstio on December 24, 2004, 01:09:12 PM
Radianation: If you feel that the forum wrapped in Mambo looks too busy, you can also integrate just the registration and login.
Well, I think what I'm going to do is expand my Mambo theme so that it's 100% instead of fixed width. Then I'll strip down my SMF theme so that it fits nicely inside of the Mambo frame (providing consistency). Should I convert my Coppermine bridge from SMF to Mambo, and what do I need to do on the menu link in order for it to appear like SMF? Set it up as a wrapper? Maybe I'll make a new post. sry.
QuoteShould I convert my Coppermine bridge from SMF to Mambo, and what do I need to do on the menu link in order for it to appear like SMF?
Unfortunately, there is no Mambo-Coppermine integration yet.
I'm thinking of installing coppermine, but I have a short question about the login integration.
I have mambo and smf integrated in one site, I used the bridge. I understand there is also a bridge for smf and coppermine login. Does that mean that (since registration, loggin in and out are managed by smf) users can login just once and don't need to login again for coppermine?
it does. works great
Thanks, I'll give it a try!
I saw a "developmental" bridge for mambo / coppermine, but it's not fully supported until 1.4 or something.
You don't need a mambo-coppermine bridge, just use the coppermine installation and edit the files per the instructions to get it to share the smf database.
Okay here is my site: http://www.goosemoose.com/mambo
I have 3 forums with integrated users, all using the smf-mambo bridge component (installed 3 times, had to edit a few files) none as a wrapper, coppermine (still needs to be taken out of the wrapper, working on that now), as well as blogging feature. I know the colors still suck but I'm working on that now that my basic setup is done.
The site is setup to work at 100% width instead of a fixed width because my users went nuts when I tried to change SMF to not read full screen. I think it flows pretty well.
Quotecoppermine (still needs to be taken out of the wrapper, working on that now),
Let me know how you progress on this.
I tried it awhile back, and I got pretty far using the example of the Gallery component. The problem with Coppermine is that almost every include is a relative path, which doesn't work well when called from Mambo.
You're on the right track Goosemoose. Get that Coppermine out of the wrapper and it'll be sweet, minimal, but sweet nonetheless.
Quote from: Radianation on December 25, 2004, 12:33:35 PM
I saw a "developmental" bridge for mambo / coppermine, but it's not fully supported until 1.4 or something.
Sorry to bust in.....z00m gallery 2.1.4 RC3 is fully integrated with mambo, no bridges needed adn it run perfectly. I don't know if coppermine has any features that z00m doesn't have, but I don't think so.
SMF has a very very useful feature that none of the mambo-fora has (both Loudmouth and Simpleboard): user groups. So it makes a lot of sense to use O's nice bridge.
Please post a link to z00m. I googled it and can only find some screenshots and z00m in use. I can't seem to find the official site.
http://mamboforge.net/frs/?group_id=719
Does zOOm work with MOS 4.5.1? I was using it until I upgraded.
Quote from: Radianation on December 29, 2004, 12:52:15 PM
Please post a link to z00m. I googled it and can only find some screenshots and z00m in use. I can't seem to find the official site.
http://ummagumma.nl/mikedeboer/
The web pages are a little confusing (some people miss that it is for 4.5.1, for instance), but the component works nice.
I have coppermine set up nicely in a wrapper now using the smf coppermine theme. I had to edit one or two lines to make it work nicely but I think it works. Let me know what you think http://www.goosemoose.com/mambo
You know, I think Coppermine looks a lot better and integrates with SMF, so that means if you use SMF & Mambo you should be able to integrate coppermine just fine. The only complaint I have is that the moderators on coppermine's forum have little patience and rarely offer advice or help (applauds SMF moderators/admins).
Ok...
My original site at http://www.turtleshellprod.com/mambo
running AkoDarkGem mambo theme and Helios (by Bloc) for SMF, I also have Coppermine hooked in.
I just set up a second implementation at http://aaw.turtleshellprod.com
running AkoBlueSky mambo theme (modified) and Loon Theme - Blue (modified). I have coppermine in this implementation as well.
Here's a couple of sites that I have just migrated across from using the PHPBB component for Mambo.
The first has Coppermine in a Mambo Wrapper (be nice once that can be integrated as a true component), whilst the second uses the Gallery (Menalto) component for Mambo:
www.lenkiewicz.org (http://www.lenkiewicz.org)
www.dhsob.co.uk (http://www.dhsob.co.uk)
Still got to do some tweaking and a little tidying with the styles, but so far I am very pleased to have made the switch to the SMF Bridge 8)
Nice work Janner. I like your site, even though there is a lot of text it's not too hard to follow.
Quote from: Radianation on January 17, 2005, 10:20:18 AM
Nice work Janner. I like your site, even though there is a lot of text it's not too hard to follow.
Thanks :-[
Both sites are targeted at very small and niche audiences, and in both cases these are people who are likely to spend a lot of time reading everything that is on the site. Certainly not intended for the casual surfer ... :)
Here is a test site - which I work on as time permits. Some experimental stuff here, lots of stuff still to try - but I'll port it to the live site as soon as I learn more about Mambo and decide what the basic configuration will be -- and after seeing what the next version of the bridge will bring. ;)
http://bloozbox.com
Cheers,
slack
Here you can find my site mambo 4.5.1a and the mambo bridge 2.11 stable.
www.locatorr.nl
just fixed all the problems when integrating
http://www.gamemagz.com
feedback is apreciated. keep in mind that this site is only up for 2 days, sorry for the lack of content :)
Here is my site: http://www.hglan.com
I've just switched from Mambo 4.5.0 and the phpBB2 module to 4.5.1 and the SMF bridge. I'm quite pleased with the results.
The theme Mambo is using is a modified version of AkoWinterPortal by Arthur Konze and the SMF Theme is LoonBlue by Mystica.
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Here is my site:
Gedi Online Travel (http://www.gedi.cn).
and the travel forum (http://www.gedi.cn/forum)
I used combining registration component but didn't use login component, since I want separated thema. I'm looking forward to the separate thema version
Mine is at http://aim.aiiresources.com but I have it limited to certain email domains that can register, so I'll have to set up an account for anyone who wants to register. There's plenty to see as a guest, though.
Quote from: xenovanis on January 19, 2005, 02:46:28 PM
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Sorry about that, about five minutes after I posted that my host decided to keel over and die. Its back up now though.
Can I make a suggestion? A lot of this thread is discussion on why Mambo is useful and whether people should use it or not. Could someone make a new post with only Mambo/SMF sites in and sticky it? Make it like the posts in the Themes board which gives details on themes?
Here is my site:
http://www.inventorforum.net
It's in norwegian, so do not expect to understand much of it ;)
Its made with Mambo 451a, SMF 1 and bridge component 2.11.
Mambo theme is AkoAutumn (slightly modified) and SMF theme is a slightly modified Themis from Bloc (the MK-portal version to make it correct in IE)
A new post like that might be nice, but I think that explaining *why* you chose to even bother with Mambo is helpful to a lot of SMF users (being this is an SMF site and not a mambo site). Make sense?
Quote from: Radianation on January 21, 2005, 06:51:25 AM
A new post like that might be nice, but I think that explaining *why* you chose to even bother with Mambo is helpful to a lot of SMF users (being this is an SMF site and not a mambo site). Make sense?
Because SMF is not a portal but a nice forum.
And Mambo is a nice portal, but not a forum.
Quote from: Radianation on January 21, 2005, 06:51:25 AM
A new post like that might be nice, but I think that explaining *why* you chose to even bother with Mambo is helpful to a lot of SMF users (being this is an SMF site and not a mambo site). Make sense?
I agree but the post title is "Mambo & SMF Examples !?". Personally I clicked on the post to see some working examples of Mambo and SMF, not to see a load of discussion of why Mambo should be used. I'm not saying that the discussion isn't valid but its mildly annoying to have to wade through a thread with more than 100 posts to get a couple of dozen examples.
For the record, I chose Mambo because I wanted a user friendly, easy to configure and easily extensable Content Management System. I wanted to be able to add articles and news into my site without having to resort to manually editing HTML pages or using complicated and confusing backends. I wanted a system that stored all articles into a database for ease of backup. I looked at the various Nuke options and others but found them rather overwhelming. While Mambo still takes a lot of work it was easy to figure and get set up how I wanted it.
Before my site went over to Mambo we used phpBB2. On the first version of my Mambo site I used the phpBB module by Adam van Dongen. While this made it easy to transfer my posts over to the new system, the component itself was rather buggy and was only updated when Adam had time. Add to that, it was extremely hard to add mods to the component and I wanted to extend the functionality but couldn't easily.
Eventually the google/php exploit came along and I was getting rather keen to get rid of phpBB but I wanted to keep Mambo. That left me with a limited amount of choices. I could go over to Simpleboard which I had previously evaluated and found it lived upto its name rather too well. I looked at Loudmouth but didn't like it.
So that left SMF. The whole approach of the SMF bridge rather appealed to me being that it made little to no changes to core code of both Mambo and SMF, only to the templates. This meant it could be extended and themed more easily which meant a lot to me especially considering how much I hated the default theme :) Upon looking at the board further I found I liked its speed compared to phpbb and I found its integration into Mambo considerably better than what I was used to. The phpbb->SMF convertor was also a major consideration as well.
So I chose to use SMF on my site.
In case you have not noticed, I compiled a list of the examples and Orstio has stickied it...
Norphy: That is an amazing post. You've hit everything square on. :D
Jorgen:
QuoteBecause SMF is not a portal but a nice forum.
And Mambo is a nice portal, but not a forum.
While a lot of people use Mambo as a portal, it can be far more than that. Portals are more like PhpNuke, and PostNuke.
Radianation:
QuoteA new post like that might be nice, but I think that explaining *why* you chose to even bother with Mambo is helpful to a lot of SMF users (being this is an SMF site and not a mambo site). Make sense?
I didn't see Mambo as any bother at all. In fact, it was far easier to install and configure than a lot of the other CMS options.
Before I chose Mambo, I was actually leaning heavily towards Xoops. Xoops is very configurable, and I thought that even if it didn't have what I wanted at first, I'd be able to find a way to make it work.
I had already test-driven a number of portals and CMS solutions, including PhpNuke, PostNuke, Xoops, Xaraya, and a few others that IMO, failed miserably to deliver anything but cookie-cutter look, feel, and performance.
Xoops, Xaraya, and Mambo were the only three that really stood out as solutions that had the configurability that I wanted.
Xaraya was far too slow, complicated, and buggy for my liking. It looks like it has a lot of potential, but it needed too much work at the time I tested it.
As I said earlier, Xoops was my choice, until I tested Mambo. I was impressed by Mambo's range of templates, third-party software availability, and most importantly, the ease of which one can create one's own components, modules, and Mambots.
Working on my second site: http://www.xenovanis.nl. Consider this is more a testsite for now, so there's not much activity at this time. Also note that there are some problems with my host, as a result of that the loading can be very slow. Working on that!
Please let me know if you have some comments or suggestions. I changed the forum theme so it would work nice with the rhuk_planetfall template.
Mamboversion: 4.5.1a
Bridgeversion: 2.11 (with some adjustements seen in 2.2)
Quote from: Damienov on January 18, 2005, 03:50:20 PM
just fixed all the problems when integrating
http://www.gamemagz.com
feedback is apreciated. keep in mind that this site is only up for 2 days, sorry for the lack of content :)
Damienov - I love your site. To me, that is an excellent implementation of the Mambo/SMF integration. The layout is very organized and the site itself is very easy on the eyes. Can you tell me what theme did you use, or is that your own?
Thanks
I know that this site has been mentioned before, but I have just done some tidying up of the templates and styles to try and make everything look more integrated and seamless.
Site uses Bridge v2.2, Mambo 4.5.1a, SMF 1.0.1 and Coppermine 1.3.2.
Mambo template is a modified version of Purple Heart (variable width). SMF theme is a modified version of Loonred. Coppermine is using a modified version of its default theme.
www.lenkiewicz.org (http://www.lenkiewicz.org)
Opinions and feedback would be welcome.
Looking good Janner, but the red might be just a tad harsh on the contrast. Maybe a more subtle tone.
Mambo 4.5.1. / Smf 2.2
www.tilbo.com
Quote from: Radianation on January 26, 2005, 07:10:16 AM
Looking good Janner, but the red might be just a tad harsh on the contrast. Maybe a more subtle tone.
Thanks.
I take your point about the red, but at the moment I quite like having a little colour on the site (makes a change to the shades of grey I have used in the past).
Having said that, it's still very much a work in progress, so who knows what tomorrow might bring :o :D
I was like SMF 2.2, tilbo means SMF 1.0.1.... haha had me ther efor a sec.
I like red, but I meant like a less vivid shade of red. It looks nice, but when I try to read the red distracts my eyes. Could be just me.
Tilbo, Janner: nice sites.
Janner I like the red.
Tilbo I really like the way that your forum blends with the rest of the site. Good job.
zoom is not ready for Mambo 4.5.1 yet.. uploading gives errors, check mike's site he is aware of the problem.
Hi Orstio, I very new to this Mambo and SMF. Like to find out from you how can i do the intergration of SMF and Mambo through 1 single login?
THanks.
Quote from: Orstio on November 06, 2004, 02:58:26 PM
QuoteVery nice orstio..... do you have coppermine as well?
Yes, but it is only in the Mambo users menu, not viewable to public.
Quotewhat chat do you use?
Sigmachat, reading from the SMF user data for the login.
Quoteis that a different calendar than smf?
Yes, it is the Mambo events component.
Quotecan users only log in once?
Yes, one registration, and one login for Mambo, SMF, Sigmachat, and Coppermine.
Quotegracias
de nada
Quoteanybody else have examples?
Do a Google search for "com_smf". I was pleasantly surprised. ;)
Swift, try this: http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=25718.0
You might want to search for the answer on your own before posting. In this case, the topic you wanted was a sticky at the top of this same forum. Good luck with the integration.
http://www.oixalia.gr
mambo+smf+coppermine ;D
Quote from: versus7 on February 15, 2005, 07:15:30 PM
http://www.oixalia.gr
mambo+smf+coppermine ;D
Very nice !
thank you mate :D
Quote from: Orstio on November 06, 2004, 12:59:28 AM
Shameless plug: ;D
http://www.everything-science.com
What skin / template are you using friend ? It looks very neat. :)
Hello:
One Example -> www.Mis-fotos.net
Mambo - SMF - Zoom Gallery
All the best
http://www.pcguide.nl
this is mambo with smf
rhuk smoothie orange template for mambo and have made same template for smf
Very nice SMF template
I have two sites using Mambo and SMF you can find them at:
http://www.breathwork.be and http://www.emofree.be they are 8), way 8)
Quote from: marcnyc on November 19, 2004, 11:28:33 AM
In my site I was able to integrate: Mambo + MOS' Community Builder component + SMF + PHPlist (a professional mailing list software for those who just can't do it with Mambo's mass-mailing function).
Can you please share how you integrated these? I have been searching for this type of integration for a long while..