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SMF Support => SMF 2.0.x Support => Topic started by: Julian. on March 18, 2008, 12:33:44 PM

Title: No new theme?
Post by: Julian. on March 18, 2008, 12:33:44 PM
Hi,

I thought, the theme used on this forum here would be implemented in SMF 2. Am I wrong? Aren't there going to be any new themes delivered with SMF 2 by default?
Title: Re: No new theme?
Post by: niko on March 18, 2008, 12:40:30 PM
Quote from: Julian. on March 18, 2008, 12:33:44 PM
Hi,

I thought, the theme used on this forum here would be implemented in SMF 2. Am I wrong? Aren't there going to be any new themes delivered with SMF 2 by default?

This theme is just for this forum. New theme will be in later version (1.1 got in RC3 IIRC), but remember that I don't know anything about it, this is just guess.
Next Beta should get more semantic versions of current themes. (as said in announce topic)
Title: Re: No new theme?
Post by: Julian. on March 18, 2008, 12:45:44 PM
All right, thank you!
Title: Re: No new theme?
Post by: Nordoelum on March 18, 2008, 10:22:01 PM
SMF2.0 should ship with a new theme. Because the current is getting quite old.

Birger :)
Title: Re: No new theme?
Post by: Stalyn on March 18, 2008, 10:53:57 PM
I think we do need a new theme.
Title: Re: No new theme?
Post by: shadow82x on March 18, 2008, 10:56:24 PM
tbh I dont think there is going to be new colors/layout, ect... I just think a semantic version of the current default. Its not that big of a deal in my eyes because many people dont use the default theme and this will be a jump start for theme designers.
Title: Re: No new theme?
Post by: Gary on March 18, 2008, 11:23:47 PM
There are plans for an entirely new default theme for 2.0. But a semantic version of the current 1.1 default is being made first.
Title: Re: No new theme?
Post by: metallica48423 on March 18, 2008, 11:25:04 PM
Step one is getting the old template updated to be more semantic using newer HTML techniques.  And that will take a bit of time
Title: Re: No new theme?
Post by: shadow82x on March 18, 2008, 11:58:13 PM
Quote from: Gazmanafc on March 18, 2008, 11:23:47 PM
There are plans for an entirely new default theme for 2.0. But a semantic version of the current 1.1 default is being made first.
Thanks for the clarification.

And you too metallica. :)
Title: Re: No new theme?
Post by: Spaceman-Spiff on March 19, 2008, 12:30:15 AM
Quote from: Stalyn on March 18, 2008, 10:53:57 PM
I think we do need a new theme.

To quote from karlbenson :

As someone famous and mostly likely dead once said.Don't start wallpapering until you've built the house.
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Title: Re: No new theme?
Post by: Nordoelum on March 22, 2008, 05:32:41 PM
Like full CSS 2.1 and real XHTML 1.0?

Birger :)
Title: Re: No new theme?
Post by: ryanhellyer on March 22, 2008, 11:05:39 PM
Quote from: MindTooth on March 22, 2008, 05:32:41 PMLike full CSS 2.1 and real XHTML 1.0?

That is highly unlikely as XHTML is not supported by major browsers. I assume it is likely to be XHTML served as text/html instead, just as phpBB3 does.
Title: Re: No new theme?
Post by: Nordoelum on March 22, 2008, 11:32:26 PM
Yeah I know. It seems that XHTML is a used standard as no one really follows.

Birger :)
Title: Re: No new theme?
Post by: metallica48423 on March 23, 2008, 03:36:16 AM
We already use XHTML Transitional valid HTML.

valid is one thing, semantic is another
Title: Re: No new theme?
Post by: ryanhellyer on March 23, 2008, 07:47:33 AM
I started working on a 100% recode of the SMF HTML a few months ago, but gave up as the number of templates drove me insane.

Good luck to the development team :) There's certainly a lot of work to be done to recode all that HTML spaghetti which is rammed into the current default theme.
Title: Re: No new theme?
Post by: MultiformeIngegno on March 23, 2008, 05:50:52 PM
Is there a way to have the theme installed in THIS forum?
Title: Re: No new theme?
Post by: Gary on March 23, 2008, 05:55:04 PM
No. We've said this many times, currently this theme is exclusive to this forum. If it'll be made the official default theme for 2.0 is to be decided...
Title: Re: No new theme?
Post by: klumy on March 23, 2008, 06:06:21 PM
when will this decision be made?
Title: Re: No new theme?
Post by: metallica48423 on March 27, 2008, 02:36:09 PM
What decision is there to make?  This site has always used a theme specific to this site.  I doubt this exact theme will be released, but likely a theme reminiscent of it.  There is no timeframe on a decision, our priorities are elsewhere right now.

Keep in mind that the current default theme, "core", was not put into SMF until SMF 1.1 RC2, and that 2.0 is in beta.  I'm not saying it couldn't be earlier, but right now theres no RUSH to roll out a new theme.  Right now the focus on the design side is recoding "core" to generate proper HTML by today's standards, rather than the standards existing in late 2005.

We understand people's desire for a new theme, but right now stabilizing the core of the system is key, rather than polishing.  To me, focusing on a new theme right now would be like waxing a car than painting over it with a can of spray paint, when really, the paint should be carefully stripped, a new base layer put on, that base layer secured with another coat, then have the final layers of paint and wax put on.