Well, I googled "Powered by SMF 2.0 RC2" And got a few hits. Clicked on the link and looked at the footer and for sure... Powered by SMF 2.0 RC2 - DEV 20090815
So.... Is it really closer than we think.... or has this been mentioned and Im just way behind the curve?
And... things like this make me wish I had the money for charter membership. I want it that bad!
It is suppose to be here by the end of summer. But there is never a true set date as to when it will be released.
Found one :P
http://warpstorm.com/forum/index.php
20090815? That's a week ago! Someone needs to update their version :P
Quote from: clapter on August 22, 2009, 10:27:07 PM
And... things like this make me wish I had the money for charter membership. I want it that bad!
Charter Members don't get access to nightly builds. They are often quite broken, and we frankly don't have support resources to handle that. The most recent problems was in the Core theme after some big commits. It was horribly broken for days while our developers worked to bring it back up to standards.
Those selected to be beta testers
do and all team members have access to nightly builds. If you like to beta test, get cracking on reporting bugs you find (after confirming it's not a duplicate!). The best reporters (quality not quantity) are often selected for beta testing.
Yes, the version of the software has been bumped because several things have been sorted that were blocking the release. We just need to wait for the developers to get the code in shape and "bless" a build as the release RC2. With bug counts rising, this may be a bit still as we have a few blockers, but we're quite near!
If you want to follow the progress on 2.0, check out our bug tracker. There is even an RSS feed so you can watch activity as it happens.
I must be doing something wrong, THIS (http://dev.simplemachines.org/mantis/view.php?id=2839) is the only bug I've ever found in 2.0
So im guessing this is a beta testers forum ;)
or a teamies.
Or hackers.
Quote from: clapter on August 22, 2009, 10:23:40 PM
Well, I googled "Powered by SMF 2.0 RC2" And got a few hits. Clicked on the link and looked at the footer and for sure... Powered by SMF 2.0 RC2 - DEV 20090815
So.... Is it really closer than we think.... or has this been mentioned and Im just way behind the curve?
According to a blog entry by one of the devs, it is expected by the end of this summer.
They gots until september 22nd then!
For which hemisphere?
:P
Quote from: clapter on August 23, 2009, 10:17:28 AM
Or hackers.
I know what you mean but nope :P, that website's server is down. Weird to see it in the 1st results page in Google for "Powered by SMF 2.0 RC2" though
QuoteRequests for Hacking-Hack SMF 2.0 RC2-1? ... Can anybody tell me how to hack an SMF forum, version 2.0 RC2-1? I'm banned from there, I want to hack one of ...
Oops, that would be a typo - and a very bad request indeed.
WHAT HAPPENED TO MY POST!?!?!? Arantor ;)
And
they gots until september 22nd. I dont care what hemishpere, planet, universe, or forum they are on.
SEPTEMBER 22ND
when will the final version of 2.0 come out?
We will know when we find it available on the downloads page.
Quote from: klumy on August 23, 2009, 02:27:56 PM
when will the final version of 2.0 come out?
At a guess, final will come after rc2 and rc3.
As for the no. of remaining bugs
http://dev.simplemachines.org/mantis/search.php?project_id=1&status_id%5B%5D=10&status_id%5B%5D=20&status_id%5B%5D=30&status_id%5B%5D=40&status_id%5B%5D=50&sticky_issues=on&sortby=last_updated&dir=DESC&per_page=500&hide_status_id=-2
(including private ones, its around 134 at the moment)
Most of which are a pain in the backside ones. Thankfully team members, beta testers and normal members have been chipping with some debugging and suggested solutions for some.
Quote from: karlbenson on August 23, 2009, 03:13:46 PM
Quote from: klumy on August 23, 2009, 02:27:56 PM
when will the final version of 2.0 come out?
At a guess, final will come after rc2 and rc3.
As for the no. of remaining bugs
http://dev.simplemachines.org/mantis/search.php?project_id=1&status_id%5B%5D=10&status_id%5B%5D=20&status_id%5B%5D=30&status_id%5B%5D=40&status_id%5B%5D=50&sticky_issues=on&sortby=last_updated&dir=DESC&per_page=500&hide_status_id=-2
(including private ones, its around 134 at the moment)
Most of which are a pain in the backside ones. Thankfully team members, beta testers and normal members have been chipping with some debugging and suggested solutions for some.
My eyes just pop'ed out as i saw the bug list.. :P pretty good job i should say! Kudos to the SMF team!!
The bugtracker is public to read, although we haven't really got a big link to it anywhere.
We've also got the bug report graph
(http://dev.simplemachines.org/graphs/BugReport.png)
I bet the big once would be the urgent patch release or the new SMF version. The frequency of new and resolved bugs are more or less the same. 1 gets solved and another gets created. :)
Its like one door closes and another opens :P
Yeah, exactly. I'm thinking of telling the beta testers to bloody well go on holiday. If the devs don't know about the bugs they wont worry about them and then we can get this thing released. :P
There are only two bugs in that list marked as blockers. That's a very good thing.
Quote from: Antechinus on August 23, 2009, 04:26:38 PM
Yeah, exactly. I'm thinking of telling the beta testers to bloody well go on holiday. If the devs don't know about the bugs they wont worry about them and then we can get this thing released. :P
I suppose they would if there is some sponsorship. :P
And if members get hacked lately you get this.. --> (http://cache.hyves-static.net/images/smilies/default/smiley_devil.gif)
IVe always wondered this..... since they are the first testers.... why arent they called Alpha Testers..... then when it becomes public, or is released to charter members... they are second... so arent THEY the beta testers?
The devs themselves are the alpha testers. When they deem code ready to be properly tested, it's already had some testing - alpha - then it goes to beta testers for testing.
Once it's then been tested and nothing showstopping found, it goes to Charter Members, then a week or so later on general release.
so if your a charter... you only get a week of being special :(
True you get it ahead of everyone else. But... there's more! (http://www.simplemachines.org/charter/)
You also get priority support from the Support Team in the Charter private board, and also you get one free install per year done by the Support team, and upgrades - though not after mods are installed.
Not after mods are installed, so basically scratch that feature out ;)
Still, charter member isnt for the features. ITs for showing how much you care about SMF
And priority support :)
Within the regular boards, we ask that things don't get bumped in 24 hours - I don't believe Charter Members usually have to wait that long...
clapter doesnt need support ;) He breaks things so much that fixing it would break it even more.
Quote from: clapter on August 23, 2009, 09:25:06 PM
so if your a charter... you only get a week of being special :(
It really depends on how the development process is going. There might be times where the charter members get a full private release (as was done with early 1.0 betas and I believe was also with early 1.1 betas), or a much longer lead time.
Quote from: clapter on August 23, 2009, 09:34:37 PM
Not after mods are installed, so basically scratch that feature out ;)
You still get priority support and support through a private helpdesk for sensitive things even if modifications are installed. We aren't like
vBulletin certain paid products where you must remove all tweaks and custom themes before you are provided support.
Yes, Im saving my pennies to become a charter member one of these days ;)
and screw vBulletin certain paid products
Quote from: Motoko-chan on August 23, 2009, 04:31:47 PM
There are only two bugs in that list marked as blockers. That's a very good thing.
Good to see there's only two. And it seems like only one affects normal operation/functions, I'd happily use a full install every time just to get the damn thing working immediately. It's an RC, more of a glorified Beta, it's SUPPOSED to have problems.
Then we just turn those problems over to Aaron and Karl and their crews. :P
The version 1.1.10 is cool, please leave the devs alone.
Devs please take your time and don't let them rush you into releasing unbake scripts.
Quote from: Kenny01 on August 24, 2009, 01:21:55 AM
The version 1.1.10 is cool, please leave the devs alone.
Devs please take your time and don't let them rush you into releasing unbake scripts.
I totally agree with this. :)
Even though I'd love to see 2.0 final today or tomorrow, I don't think anyone would be happy with a final version with 100+ bugs in it on the long run. ;)
It's the same people that are in a hurry to see version 2, that are still going to come here to blow there horn about bugs.
I would rather wait 5 months than have 2.0 final now, with 100+ bugs like Lex mentioned. We all need to be patient. The devs do this in their free time, for no pay, and what do we give in return? Reporting of more bugs just as soon as they thought they were done :D
Quote from: clapter on August 24, 2009, 06:40:56 AM
I would rather wait 5 months than have 2.0 final now, with 100+ bugs
I am running 2.0 for about a year on a forum with over 1.2 million messages and don't see any bugs. Well, I reported maybe 3 bugs, but nothing serious. I am pretty sure that SMF 2.0 now and even in past public betas was/is more reliable and stable system than SMF 1.x.
Just because there are 100+ bugs filed against 2.0 doesn't mean that all of those will be closed by 2.0 final. It would be great if they could be, and they might. However, nearly all software has known bugs even when shipping as a final release.
With the final release, you can expect that the bugs will be minor, the software will be solid, and the usability will be the same that SMF is famous for.
Indeed some of the remaining ones aren't bugs per se. More tweaks, improvements, features.
With regards to the level of the bugs (eg blocking ones). We haven't really used the level too much. There are few more than would block rc2 release (in addition to core).
I think alot of the current ones (which people can't see atm), are related to the fact we've set curve as the new default, which has caused a few temporary issues. [which is why the bugtracker which was around 115 a while back, has jumped back up]
Glad to hear that they are only temporary, and i dont know about you all, BUT I CANT WAIT FOR CURVE!!!
Meh. Curve is just a theme. You can make Core look the same if you want too. Now there's a fun weekend project for you.:D
Curve is a theme, but it goes far more than skin deep. The templates and even the sources have been changed to accommodate the new semantic coding. It should, hopefully, prove much more efficient for templating variations of it in the future.
Yes but the average punters who are salivating over the thing just want the look. They mostly don't know or care about the underlying code.
Quote from: Antechinus on August 24, 2009, 05:08:48 PM
Meh. Curve is just a theme. You can make Core look the same if you want too. Now there's a fun weekend project for you.:D
Smf, smf themes site and other smf theme sites (meaning premium themes) don't have any themes like Curve. Because people don't change all template files. Just make boardindex, index and style css.. Maybe some images and display and messageindex template. But curve completly new theme for smf. Change all color, all menu, all template files.. So curve not just a theme like other smf themes. So you and we can't do we own curve.
Oh yes I can, mate. :D It would be a lot of work but it's perfectly possible. Of course you'd be mad to try it at this stage.
Well, maybe for your it is a weekend project... for me it would likely result in my passing out in the gutter and calling the suicide hotline.
Quote from: clapter on August 25, 2009, 06:56:56 AM
Well, maybe for your it is a weekend project... for me it would likely result in my passing out in the gutter and calling the suicide hotline.
Sounds like fun, perhaps I should try this out :P
I'm sure there was actually a theme in the Theme Site that wasn't so far removed from Curve but I can't seem to find it right now.
Quote from: Arantor on August 25, 2009, 08:19:22 AM
I'm sure there was actually a theme in the Theme Site that wasn't so far removed from Curve but I can't seem to find it right now.
There was probably one on TP. Although there is something similar aswell i suppose.
That's because both Curve and reBorn (http://demo.tinyportal.net/index.php?demo=reborn) were both designed by Bloc. ;)
No, I wasn't thinking of that theme, I'm thinking of one I saw on the main Theme site a while ago.
You mean this one (http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?lemma=1678)? ;)
Thanks, SiNaN, that is the one I was thinking about, yes :)
I really don't think that's similar to Curve. I mean, Curve isn't the only theme with rounded corners :P
*shrug* It kinda looked like Curve to me but I haven't seen it much.
It does look like curve. But im sure its nothing like it at the same time ;)
It is nothing like it, I can assure you, though it might look similar :)
im counting down the days till 2.0!
How so? There's no release date set.
I'm counting down the days too - but I'm starting from a very large number and hoping to be pleasantly surprised :)
I started counting five years ago, before I had even heard of SMF, and before development on 2.0 had even started.
Quote from: Fustrate on August 26, 2009, 05:48:58 PM
I started counting five years ago, before I had even heard of SMF, and before development on 2.0 had even started.
How far have you gotten?
I've been counting upwards from 0... I'm currently at 23.
Quote from: Fustrate on August 26, 2009, 06:01:06 PM
I've been counting upwards from 0... I'm currently at 23.
Impressive. :P
Quote from: Arantor on August 26, 2009, 05:42:41 PMI'm counting down the days too - but I'm starting from a very large number and hoping to be pleasantly surprised :)
Yeah, lower your standards enough and you'll be pleasantly surprised more times than not. ;)
Quote from: Fustrate on August 26, 2009, 05:48:58 PMI started counting five years ago, before I had even heard of SMF, and before development on 2.0 had even started.
SMF 6.0! Yes! :P
Quote from: Eliana Tamerin on August 26, 2009, 05:02:08 PM
How so? There's no release date set.
exactly. I have no idea how many days i'll count ;)
are there any news when we could exspect the final version of 2.0?
No, it's done when it's done, not before.
RC2 is soon, RC3 after, then 2.0 final.
is it closer than we think? maybe CMs should check the downloads page...
Indeed they should :D
Download page? What download page? Nothing to see here, folks. ;D
Fibber 8)
any chance to see final this christmas? :D
Depends really on what bugs get thrown up by RC2 in widespread use, really.
It looks pretty stable. There are a couple big bugs that should be fixed... things like openid... but the rest is mostly minor stuff.
Quote from: Mark Rose on October 05, 2009, 02:00:48 AM
openid.
I will prefer not to use the openid, because majority of my members don't know openid, that may cause some confusion in login.
Is it possible to remove the openid?
Quote from: Kenny01 on October 05, 2009, 02:29:41 AM
Is it possible to remove the openid?
It's an option toggle, so you can just disable it.
That's great as i'm also not a fan of openid.
thanks Motoko-chan.
Quote from: Kenny01 on October 05, 2009, 02:29:41 AM
Quote from: Mark Rose on October 05, 2009, 02:00:48 AM
openid.
I will prefer not to use the openid, because majority of my members don't know openid, that may cause some confusion in login.
Is it possible to remove the openid?
openid is disabled by default as I remember correctly.
It should be, yes. I don't recall that changing from RC1.2 (since OpenID is present there too)