I have been waiting for some kind of release of this new smf but it seems to take long time, how long?
I hope it dont end up as another YaBB SE that never gonna be really finished software?
Good Luck to you and i hope some release appear soon?
Look here
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=2314.0
YaBB SE is not a finished software ? SE was finished with version 1 and recieved updates until 1.5.5 today. If that's your opinion, none of the actual software isn't finished because of the updates you get for these products.
Quote from: Robban on January 24, 2004, 10:12:27 AM
I have been waiting for some kind of release of this new smf but it seems to take long time, how long?
I hope it dont end up as another YaBB SE that never gonna be really finished software?
Good Luck to you and i hope some release appear soon?
Yes we have been awaiting a very long time for what we thought was gonna be YaBB SE II. I still miss the YaBB SE name though. But like they say, patience is a virture, good things come to those who wait etc etc etc
Quote from: `Z0mB|e` on January 24, 2004, 02:53:38 PM
I still miss the YaBB SE name though.
Since it's so often misspelled and mispronounced (so who can treat 'Yabbsy' seriously or be bothered to keep saying 'YaBB-S-E'?), I'll be very glad to see the back of it! :)
If something is finnished, then there would be nothing left to do for unknown :P
Now that wouldn't be nice to him now would it? ;)
User wand more and more, that and the ocual bug will make that there always be update's. As long as there are developers willing to make them.
*acf ;)
Quote from: Peter Duggan on January 24, 2004, 03:10:58 PM
Quote from: `Z0mB|e` on January 24, 2004, 02:53:38 PM
I still miss the YaBB SE name though.
Since it's so often misspelled and mispronounced (so who can treat 'Yabbsy' seriously or be bothered to keep saying 'YaBB-S-E'?), I'll be very glad to see the back of it! :)
Well maybe I can get the first thing that comes to mind outta my mind when I see SMF - Stupid Mother F***** Ill be ok..........but Im not really that worked up over it, I wont be heading to CA to strangle Jeff or anything.
Speaking of waiting... When Yabbse.org and simplemachines.org seemed to be down for a bit today, was I the only one to hope that the open Beta had been released and there were too many downloads to... Oh, it's just me? Uhm, never mind. What do you mean by "pathetic," anyway?!
Quote from: Winters on January 24, 2004, 03:20:15 PM
Speaking of waiting... When Yabbse.org and simplemachines.org seemed to be down for a bit today, was I the only one to hope that the open Beta had been released and there were too many downloads to... Oh, it's just me? Uhm, never mind.
It got to be REAL close now.............I thought it would have been out by now actually. It cant be long now at all.
I think so, too. To prevent people from using the first open beta in a production environment, maybe someone could instruct us (in the appropriate place) how to test it locally. That might keep us busy till then :D
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=2859.0
-[Unknown]
You cant blame the team for not cranking out the public one too fast, cause its still gonna be beta, the team is still gonna say DO NOT INSTALL THIS LESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING...............but what is gonna happen when the public beta goes out everyone is gonna go ahead and do it and the support board will become a night mare.
Exactly. Just... beautiful.... I could not have said it better myself.
-[Unknown]
I dont mind waiting. No rush :P
Quote from: Owdy on January 24, 2004, 04:01:19 PM
I dont mind waiting. No rush :P
Same here...
Then again.. we have charter memberships ;)
Damn you Charter Members!
Quote from: $morph on January 24, 2004, 04:02:41 PM
Quote from: Owdy on January 24, 2004, 04:01:19 PM
I dont mind waiting. No rush :P
Same here...
Then again.. we have charter memberships ;)
I only have -pi on one site............my other sites I am waiting........I am not familar enough with coding such to do so..........Ive been tempted trust me but its ok, my working boards of YaBB SE are working just fine. My Charter is more for support cause I actually paid 20 bucks to Lewis Media before I came charter to fix one of my boards. So I got 70 bucks into this.
Quote from: `Z0mB|e` on January 24, 2004, 03:52:54 PM
You cant blame the team for not cranking out the public one too fast, cause its still gonna be beta, the team is still gonna say DO NOT INSTALL THIS LESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING...............but what is gonna happen when the public beta goes out everyone is gonna go ahead and do it and the support board will become a night mare.
I wasn't blaming the team; in fact I was trying to subtly take us away from the "when" question... LOL.
[Unknown], I had actually read your tutorial, I still went the easy route and installed Xampp. Anyway, I'm all set up.
Quote from: Winters on January 24, 2004, 04:09:12 PM
Quote from: `Z0mB|e` on January 24, 2004, 03:52:54 PM
You cant blame the team for not cranking out the public one too fast, cause its still gonna be beta, the team is still gonna say DO NOT INSTALL THIS LESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING...............but what is gonna happen when the public beta goes out everyone is gonna go ahead and do it and the support board will become a night mare.
I wasn't blaming the team; in fact I was trying to subtly take us away from the "when" question... LOL.
[Unknown], I had actually read your tutorial, I still went the easy route and installed Xampp. Anyway, I'm all set up.
Oh I was in NO way referring to you.................just an over all statement for others who may be reading this thread.
Quote from: $morph on January 24, 2004, 04:02:41 PM
Quote from: Owdy on January 24, 2004, 04:01:19 PM
I dont mind waiting. No rush :P
Same here...
Then again.. we have charter memberships ;)
Oh yeah, just rub it in, will ya? ::)
Quote from: `Z0mB|e` on January 24, 2004, 03:52:54 PM
but what is gonna happen when the public beta goes out everyone is gonna go ahead and do it and the support board will become a night mare.
Quote from: `Z0mB|e` on January 24, 2004, 04:08:27 PM
I only have -pi on one site............my other sites I am waiting
Quote from: Winters on January 24, 2004, 03:31:48 PM
To prevent people from using the first open beta in a production environment, maybe someone could instruct us (in the appropriate place) how to test it locally.
To tie several of these comments neatly together, this whole testing business strikes me (oh yes, I'm wearing my 'team' hat here!) as absolutely crucial to the public beta/YaBB SE conversion stage...
Today I've been working on my two smallest boards, preparing them for 'live' conversion. To me, this means installing discrete local copies of YaBB SE 1.5.5, importing my remote DBs to make them look/feel right, archiving any graphics and settings that I need from the YaBB SE versions to keep them handy, upgrading the local installations to SMF (some practice in trouble-shooting here will save you untold grief when you come to your 'live' boards!), creating new themes from my old templates/settings/graphics so they're all ready to go and, above all, making absolutely sure I'm clear about what to expect when I start repeating the whole process for 'real'. To which I must add that, while the new template system has mind-blowing potential, mastering enough of it to turn your old YaBB SE template into your first real theme is surprisingly straightforward so long as you're prepared to stop, read, think and not subject yourself to the unnecessary pressure of leaping in both 'live' and feet first. But I still quite simply dread what's going to happen when all these impatient users finally get hold of that public beta, ignore everything I've said here and try to convert their YaBB SE boards on the fly! :-X
Quote from: `Z0mB|e` on January 24, 2004, 03:52:54 PM
You cant blame the team for not cranking out the public one too fast, cause its still gonna be beta, the team is still gonna say DO NOT INSTALL THIS LESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING...............but what is gonna happen when the public beta goes out everyone is gonna go ahead and do it and the support board will become a night mare.
Release the public beta, then disable the support board. Problem solved! :) :)
Quote from: pseudoelmo on January 24, 2004, 08:08:27 PM
Quote from: `Z0mB|e` on January 24, 2004, 03:52:54 PM
You cant blame the team for not cranking out the public one too fast, cause its still gonna be beta, the team is still gonna say DO NOT INSTALL THIS LESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING...............but what is gonna happen when the public beta goes out everyone is gonna go ahead and do it and the support board will become a night mare.
Release the public beta, then disable the support board. Problem solved! :) :)
That thought had crossed my mind but I highly doubt lewis media is going to do that although I am no rep of SMF how ever.
I would hope not.. I meant that more as a joke than anything else.
FWIW, I thought it was pretty funny! >:D
Danke :D
Thank you for informative replys. It feels like the waiting never ending :-\
I did not mean YaBB SE was unfinished, more that it hade bugs in most releases and the feeling was like unfinished, sorry for badly formatted text.
I have read of some membership like "buy before you try" but i would rater stay on "try before you buy" style ::) None use to buy for anything before you see it or know what you are pay for?
Hope it is sooner than later or never ::)
Never ain't really an option :)
We're doing our best to erradicate bugs before we release, even for the public beta. Be patient - good things come to those who wait ;)
the speed of producing SMF is pretty fast, i think, since it seems to be basically one guy doing everything from coding to support (i know Jeff did spell-check, & said they "guys" who are coding are doing a lot. also Grudge, Dave, & others have done some stuff, and others are offering some help). but with YaBB SE, i had the sense it was more of a team project. is this correct?
heh - I added three things to CVS today... (albeit small :D)
Compuart does quite a lot of developing, Unknown chips in here and there :P
There's more to producing a forum than coding it, we have a big team of people who do everything that's needed to make SMF what it is and is going to be - in particular support staff to make sure people can actually use the damn thing :)
Quote from: Grudge on January 25, 2004, 09:39:45 AM
heh - I added three things to CVS today... (albeit small :D)
Compuart does quite a lot of developing, Unknown chips in here and there :P
There's more to producing a forum than coding it, we have a big team of people who do everything that's needed to make SMF what it is and is going to be - in particular support staff to make sure people can actually use the damn thing :)
Yes because we all know all of the team and Charter Members are going to have to answer 64564658460324 questions once its released :P. (That was a random number for the record)
Quote from: $morph on January 25, 2004, 01:10:30 PM
Quote from: Grudge on January 25, 2004, 09:39:45 AM
heh - I added three things to CVS today... (albeit small :D)
Compuart does quite a lot of developing, Unknown chips in here and there :P
There's more to producing a forum than coding it, we have a big team of people who do everything that's needed to make SMF what it is and is going to be - in particular support staff to make sure people can actually use the damn thing :)
Yes because we all know all of the team and Charter Members are going to have to answer 64564658460324 questions once its released :P. (That was a random number for the record)
Charter Members do not need to do anything ;)
Quote from: ªcf on January 25, 2004, 01:54:37 PM
Charter Members do not need to do anything ;)
But we will, belive me :P
Quote from: Peter Duggan on January 24, 2004, 05:31:04 PM
To me, this means installing discrete local copies of YaBB SE 1.5.5, importing my remote DBs to make them look/feel right, archiving any graphics and settings that I need from the YaBB SE versions to keep them handy, upgrading the local installations to SMF (some practice in trouble-shooting here will save you untold grief when you come to your 'live' boards!), creating new themes from my old templates/settings/graphics so they're all ready to go and, above all, making absolutely sure I'm clear about what to expect when I start repeating the whole process for 'real'.
That's exactly what I'm planning; getting a feel for SMF, too, checking out where the settings are that I need etc. Plus, I get to play with it without doing any harm!
QuoteTo which I must add that, while the new template system has mind-blowing potential, mastering enough of it to turn your old YaBB SE template into your first real theme is surprisingly straightforward
I hope so... This other forum software I've been using has a lot of handy features, but you can get really lost in the ACP. I hope SMF will be somewhere in between.
QuoteBut I still quite simply dread what's going to happen when all these impatient users finally get hold of that public beta, ignore everything I've said here and try to convert their YaBB SE boards on the fly! :-X
Maybe when the time comes, a Sticky with this info, as an faq, would come in handy. I am sure that many people do not know that they can/ should do it locally, much less how it is done. Including another tutorial about how to install a local server. (I would suggest to select the package (!) which is most easily installed for this purpose.)
It might be tedious but also save support a lot of time.
We are still waiting... :P