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General Community => Site Comments, Issues and Concerns => Topic started by: Arantor on April 02, 2023, 09:11:35 AM

Title: Can we *please* close the 1.1 board already?
Post by: Arantor on April 02, 2023, 09:11:35 AM
At this point, most of the things that end up new in there are necro posts (which just get split/locked/sarcastic responses), or people upgrading (which aren't really a 1.x support issue because it's not supporting 1.x but supporting a 2.x that's just having trouble becoming a 2.x)
Title: Re: Can we *please* close the 1.1 board already?
Post by: DeadMan... on April 02, 2023, 10:04:26 AM
Seems like a good idea to me.
If it's no longer being supported, due to EOL, then the board for it should be closed.
Or at least make it read only.
Title: Re: Can we *please* close the 1.1 board already?
Post by: Arantor on April 02, 2023, 10:06:33 AM
I've been asking this roughly once a year since 1.1 went EOL. The answer is always 'but what about upgrades' - which I answered. Anything else is just moderation busywork and I keep pointing out that this can be entirely avoided... by making the board read only!
Title: Re: Can we *please* close the 1.1 board already?
Post by: Sir Osis of Liver on April 02, 2023, 01:06:08 PM
+1
Title: Re: Can we *please* close the 1.1 board already?
Post by: Antechinus on April 02, 2023, 02:23:58 PM
Makes sense. Also, on the board index it is just extra clutter, and shunts more useful boards down the page.
Title: Re: Can we *please* close the 1.1 board already?
Post by: Sir Osis of Liver on April 04, 2023, 05:40:57 PM
Was gone for a day or two, today it's back. :-\
Title: Re: Can we *please* close the 1.1 board already?
Post by: Arantor on April 04, 2023, 05:49:21 PM
It's there, just moved further down.
Title: Re: Can we *please* close the 1.1 board already?
Post by: Sir Osis of Liver on April 04, 2023, 06:38:10 PM
No, it wasn't there yesterday.  2.1 was first, 2.0 second, 1.1 was gone.
Title: Re: Can we *please* close the 1.1 board already?
Post by: Kindred on April 04, 2023, 06:52:33 PM
 No, it was not ever gone
Title: Re: Can we *please* close the 1.1 board already?
Post by: Sir Osis of Liver on April 04, 2023, 06:58:37 PM
<sigh>
Title: Re: Can we *please* close the 1.1 board already?
Post by: Shades. on April 05, 2023, 06:21:30 AM
Make this a poll and let the community decide!? 8)
Title: Re: Can we *please* close the 1.1 board already?
Post by: Arantor on April 05, 2023, 06:35:38 AM
Does it need to be a poll?
Title: Re: Can we *please* close the 1.1 board already?
Post by: Shades. on April 05, 2023, 06:54:30 AM
Why not? I agree with you that 1.1 is way past EOL but the fact that there are still people using it (which eludes me) they will still argue that the board should remain. Let it be! Again "Why not"? Isn't this a community driven program? Then let the community decide...with a poll?

Just my 2 cents worth! ;)
Title: Re: Can we *please* close the 1.1 board already?
Post by: Shades. on April 05, 2023, 07:07:44 AM
Quote from: Arantor on April 02, 2023, 09:11:35 AM(which aren't really a 1.x support issue because it's not supporting 1.x but supporting a 2.x that's just having trouble becoming a 2.x)
I get what you're saying though!
Title: Re: Can we *please* close the 1.1 board already?
Post by: Arantor on April 05, 2023, 07:22:20 AM
The reason I am tired of polls is that I genuinely believe one of the demons haunting this project as a whole is a perceived need to not only be democratic but perceived to be so.

The golden years of this project were when it had project management that just *did*. And knowing it was going to be to everyones' tastes but as the old adage says, can't please all of the people all of the time.

It's the same reason why 2.1 especially took so long, few people with a singular vision and too many people playing design by committee. DBC merely guarantees you end up with the project that annoys the fewest people - at the cost of *satisfying* no one.

Everything of merit is debated to the point where any momentum to *do* gets lost.
Title: Re: Can we *please* close the 1.1 board already?
Post by: Shades. on April 05, 2023, 07:37:46 AM
Quote from: Arantor on April 05, 2023, 07:22:20 AMcan't please all of the people all of the time.
This is very true!

Title: Re: Can we *please* close the 1.1 board already?
Post by: Kindred on April 05, 2023, 09:45:25 AM
So. As the Support Lead I have the following statements:

1- there will be no poll - this is not a community decision.
2- the 1.1 board will remain visible (although moved to a less prominent position) for now.

thank you for your suggestions.
Title: Re: Can we *please* close the 1.1 board already?
Post by: Arantor on April 05, 2023, 10:02:40 AM
That's a missed opportunity - there hasn't been a thread in the last year that was actually genuinely a 1.1 support issue, that I can find anyway, they're all upgrade issues that shouldn't really be in 1.1 in my mind.

There hasn't even been a post in the 1.1 Charter boards for years.

I must extend my appreciation to whoever archived board 253, though, that absolutely passed its use a while ago.
Title: Re: Can we *please* close the 1.1 board already?
Post by: Kindred on April 05, 2023, 11:56:01 AM
Quote from: Arantor on April 05, 2023, 10:02:40 AMmust extend my appreciation to whoever archived board 253, though, that absolutely passed its use a while ag


LOL, yeah
Title: Re: Can we *please* close the 1.1 board already?
Post by: DeadMan... on April 05, 2023, 02:18:53 PM
Ummm. What board was 253 anyways?
Title: Re: Can we *please* close the 1.1 board already?
Post by: Arantor on April 05, 2023, 02:24:17 PM
A board that had 3 people posting in it for a very old, very specific reason. It ceased to be relevant 9 years ago.
Title: Re: Can we *please* close the 1.1 board already?
Post by: Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen on April 05, 2023, 02:44:38 PM
A temporary solution years ago, so now - old and useless.
EDIT: I completely missed Arantor there, lol. But yeah - That ^