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Title: how is the 'users online' list ordered?
Post by: Seph|roth on August 22, 2003, 04:08:48 PM
i can't find any logical order in it... ?
Title: Re:how is the 'users online' list ordered?
Post by: Grudge on August 22, 2003, 04:15:44 PM
I believe it is done but the users that have come online the most recent at the beginning. If not it's the opposite of this. Basically it's something to do with when they come online :D

Plus - I think YOU are always first (by which I mean the user and not you personally :p )
Title: Re:how is the 'users online' list ordered?
Post by: Ben_S on August 22, 2003, 04:21:47 PM
There person who clicked something most recently is display first, usually this is you, going down to the person who clicked something longest ago being displayed last
Title: Re:how is the 'users online' list ordered?
Post by: Seph|roth on August 22, 2003, 04:22:30 PM
Quote from: Grudge on August 22, 2003, 04:15:44 PM
Plus - I think YOU are always first (by which I mean the user and not you personally :p )
Well, I SHOULD be always first..  ;) :P

Title: Re:how is the 'users online' list ordered?
Post by: Seph|roth on August 22, 2003, 04:23:52 PM
Quote from: Ben_S on August 22, 2003, 04:21:47 PM
There person who clicked something most recently is display first, usually this is you, going down to the person who clicked something longest ago being displayed last
hmm like that... but what's the use of that? shouldn't it be like alphabetical of longest online or something like that?
Title: Re:how is the 'users online' list ordered?
Post by: Ben_S on August 22, 2003, 04:28:57 PM
Whats the point of alphabetical, it has no real meaning, this way you know if you post something that you want someone to see, you know if they have clicked recently or like coming upto 15 mins ago.
Title: Re:how is the 'users online' list ordered?
Post by: Jeff Lewis on August 22, 2003, 04:33:12 PM
Exactly, I want to know if someone I'm trying to contact is online or is fading off the users online list :)
Title: Re:how is the 'users online' list ordered?
Post by: Jeff Lewis on August 22, 2003, 04:36:14 PM
But then again searching for a user is easier in alphabetical order - and can be done with the theme system ;)
Title: Re:how is the 'users online' list ordered?
Post by: Wezz6400 on August 22, 2003, 06:29:36 PM
The way it is is functional however almost nobody knows it. Therefore I think alfabetical order is better.
Title: Re:how is the 'users online' list ordered?
Post by: [Unknown] on August 22, 2003, 06:45:44 PM
Quote from: Wezz6400 on August 22, 2003, 06:29:36 PM
The way it is is functional however almost nobody knows it. Therefore I think alfabetical order is better.

I use it.

-[Unknown]
Title: Re:how is the 'users online' list ordered?
Post by: Amacythe on August 22, 2003, 07:35:41 PM
I like it the way it is... The knowledge of who is active is relevant to me
Title: Re:how is the 'users online' list ordered?
Post by: Seph|roth on August 22, 2003, 07:40:53 PM
Quote from: Wezz6400 on August 22, 2003, 06:29:36 PM
The way it is is functional however almost nobody knows it. Therefore I think alfabetical order is better.
you have to admit; he's got a very strong point..
Title: Re:how is the 'users online' list ordered?
Post by: Ben_S on August 22, 2003, 07:43:43 PM
Quote from: Seph|roth on August 22, 2003, 07:40:53 PM
Quote from: Wezz6400 on August 22, 2003, 06:29:36 PM
The way it is is functional however almost nobody knows it. Therefore I think alfabetical order is better.
you have to admit; he's got a very strong point..

I would say the people who dont know are in the minority so he doesnt, unless prehaps they are used to a different forum software that does it the WRONG way. Alphabetical order is totally illogical, by that argument why not order it by the amount of letters in the name?

Really annoys me on a phpbb etc forum and not knowing who is really online latest. But then it pisses me off that I open a forum and goto lunch come back and I have allegedly read everything.  ::)
Title: Re:how is the 'users online' list ordered?
Post by: [Unknown] on August 22, 2003, 07:44:27 PM
I knew how it worked the first time I looked at it... it was very logical.

-[Unknown]
Title: Re:how is the 'users online' list ordered?
Post by: Seph|roth on August 22, 2003, 07:50:58 PM
Quote from: [Unknown] on August 22, 2003, 07:44:27 PM
I knew how it worked the first time I looked at it... it was very logical.

-[Unknown]
probably because you coded it LOL  ;)
Title: Re:how is the 'users online' list ordered?
Post by: Jeff Lewis on August 22, 2003, 07:58:35 PM
Actually he didn't, it's been like that for a very long time :)
Title: Re:how is the 'users online' list ordered?
Post by: Ben_S on August 22, 2003, 08:05:18 PM
Since at least YaBB 1 Gold Beta 5, probably long before but that was my first experience of the wonderfull board  ;D
Title: Re:how is the 'users online' list ordered?
Post by: Seph|roth on August 22, 2003, 08:06:23 PM
Quote from: Jeff Lewis on August 22, 2003, 07:58:35 PM
Actually he didn't, it's been like that for a very long time :)
That just makes Wezz's point stronger.
It's been like it for a long time, and still a lot of people (the majority) don't know about it...

i'll let it rest now, it's not really important anyway. ;D
Title: Re:how is the 'users online' list ordered?
Post by: Jeff Lewis on August 22, 2003, 08:08:30 PM
So if it WAS changed, how do you tell the other 50% that it's being changed from the way THEY like it? :)

That is why everything is so customizeable - so you can do it to your little hearts desire ;)
Title: Re:how is the 'users online' list ordered?
Post by: Seph|roth on August 22, 2003, 08:13:50 PM
*sigh* alright, i'll give up - you win  ;D

happy now!?  :P
Title: Re:how is the 'users online' list ordered?
Post by: [Unknown] on August 22, 2003, 08:15:08 PM
We're never happy when even one of our users is displeased.

-[Unknown]
Title: Re:how is the 'users online' list ordered?
Post by: Jeff Lewis on August 22, 2003, 08:15:33 PM
No, it's not about "winning" it's about the fact that the software has so many different areas that it's impossible to make it so that it's perfect for everyone - so we allow you, the user, to customize it :)

So really when it comes down to it, you win  :P
Title: Re:how is the 'users online' list ordered?
Post by: Seph|roth on August 22, 2003, 08:18:50 PM
Quote from: [Unknown] on August 22, 2003, 08:15:08 PM
We're never happy when even one of our users is displeased.

-[Unknown]
Quote from: Jeff Lewis on August 22, 2003, 08:15:33 PM
No, it's not about "winning" it's about the fact that the software has so many different areas that it's impossible to make it so that it's perfect for everyone - so we allow you, the user, to customize it :)

So really when it comes down to it, you win  :P

Thank you guys, i really needed to hear that ;D :P
Title: Re:how is the 'users online' list ordered?
Post by: jack on August 23, 2003, 04:55:17 AM
Quote from: Seph|roth on August 22, 2003, 04:22:30 PM
Quote from: Grudge on August 22, 2003, 04:15:44 PM
Plus - I think YOU are always first (by which I mean the user and not you personally :p )
Well, I SHOULD be always first..  ;) :P

NOt allways the case though, on a busy board, it is possible for someone else to have clicked one something between the time you clicked and the userlist being generated. I don't class that as a bug, but a sign of popularity 8)
Title: Re:how is the 'users online' list ordered?
Post by: Wezz6400 on August 23, 2003, 05:29:01 AM
Now this is nasty, I've thought about my earlier comment and the fact is I've actually never heard any user complain about the order of the list before this topic. And it seems to me every other forum software does it the same way. Now considering that I think leaving it the way it is is the best. And offcourse as Jeff said, if you want you can change it yourself. :)
Title: Re:how is the 'users online' list ordered?
Post by: Ben_S on August 23, 2003, 07:07:34 AM
Quote from: Seph|roth on August 22, 2003, 08:06:23 PM
It's been like it for a long time, and still a lot of people (the majority) don't know about it...

I'd say those that dont know are in the vast vast minority
Title: Re:how is the 'users online' list ordered?
Post by: Seph|roth on August 23, 2003, 07:14:10 AM
Quote from: Ben_S on August 23, 2003, 07:07:34 AM
Quote from: Seph|roth on August 22, 2003, 08:06:23 PM
It's been like it for a long time, and still a lot of people (the majority) don't know about it...

I'd say those that dont know are in the vast vast minority
I don't know about that...

know what? i'll throw a poll!

... but then again, most people voting will be die-hard's and will know this prolly  :(.
Title: Re:how is the 'users online' list ordered?
Post by: Spaceman-Spiff on August 23, 2003, 12:16:51 PM
well, the code can be changed very easily
just the matter of changing 1 word in the ORDER BY statement in the query
Title: Re:how is the 'users online' list ordered?
Post by: Seph|roth on August 23, 2003, 02:07:23 PM
Quote from: Spaceman-Spiff on August 23, 2003, 12:16:51 PM
well, the code can be changed very easily
just the matter of changing 1 word in the ORDER BY statement in the query
that's good to know ;)
Title: Re:how is the 'users online' list ordered?
Post by: Ben_S on August 23, 2003, 03:18:55 PM
All my forum users know and they are all just fools  :D Its simple to work out when you think about it ;)