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Title: google banner making tables screwed seems to get worse?
Post by: Spaceman-Spiff on September 05, 2003, 11:29:55 AM
i know that u guys know about this issue already, but today, i feel its getting worse for some reason
out of about 20+ pages that i viewed this morning, at least 7 of them are screwed
it used to happen like only 1% of all the pages that i open
was there any code change? is it just me or others get this too?

PS: this probably doesnt show in IE
Title: Re:google banner making tables screwed seems to get worse?
Post by: Jeff Lewis on September 05, 2003, 01:16:20 PM
We had to put the original code back in and are working with Google to fix this.
Title: Re:google banner making tables screwed seems to get worse?
Post by: [Unknown] on September 05, 2003, 08:44:28 PM
They got mad at me for mostly fixing it.  Only because you're apparently not supposed to change their buggy code.

I'm not very happy with Google right now, sorry.  I think their ad stuff sucks.

-[Unknown]
Title: Re:google banner making tables screwed seems to get worse?
Post by: Jeff Lewis on September 05, 2003, 09:40:38 PM
Their "testing" apparently didn't manage to duplicate the error either...
Title: Re:google banner making tables screwed seems to get worse?
Post by: Joshua Dickerson on September 06, 2003, 02:22:50 AM
Heh, if all of these people say that something is wrong. Obviously something is wrong ::)
Title: Re:google banner making tables screwed seems to get worse?
Post by: Gobalopper on September 06, 2003, 02:29:12 AM
It happens on every page for me now but if you reload the page it seems to fix it. That gets annoying though.
Title: Re:google banner making tables screwed seems to get worse?
Post by: [Unknown] on September 06, 2003, 02:51:54 AM
Quote from: Gobalopper on September 06, 2003, 02:29:12 AM
It happens on every page for me now but if you reload the page it seems to fix it. That gets annoying though.

That's because on reload it gives the lewis media banner, which isn't bad.

Sorry, go complain to Google.  Their email address is [email protected].

-[Unknown]
Title: Re:google banner making tables screwed seems to get worse?
Post by: andrea on September 06, 2003, 05:03:54 AM
Did you already try to put the ads code into an own hidden table of fixed width?
Title: Re:google banner making tables screwed seems to get worse?
Post by: [Unknown] on September 06, 2003, 02:51:52 PM
The problem is that it is using invalid code (<img src=http://www.notvalid.com/ height=8>) and this is screwing Mozilla up.  I've already tried changing the template in many ways and it did no good....

-[Unknown]
Title: Re:google banner making tables screwed seems to get worse?
Post by: Gobalopper on September 06, 2003, 03:59:23 PM
Why not change the template to use two tables? One at the top for the ad banner/logo and another for the sidebar and forum.
Title: Re:google banner making tables screwed seems to get worse?
Post by: Daniel D. on September 06, 2003, 07:38:23 PM
You should put up an auto responder unknown... ::)
Title: Re:google banner making tables screwed seems to get worse?
Post by: Aquilo on September 07, 2003, 05:34:20 AM
I use IE so it's not a problem! ;D

BUT I test in Mozilla and it does have a problem with it and I think of all the sites Goggle should Listen and conform to W3 standards! ::)

I made a simple HTML page and tried to validate it and the image doesn't validate as xhtml and it messes with /html end tag...

now in kindergarten HTML 2.0 it validates! ;D
it starts messing up at HTML 4.01.  Goggle hires losers to do there coding. ::)

maybe someone should inform the there is a cool site in there search engine database
http://validator.w3.org  8)


<html>
<head>
<title>Google test</title>
</head>
<body>
<img src=http://www.notvalid.com/ height=8>
</body>
</html>
Title: Re:google banner making tables screwed seems to get worse?
Post by: Daniel D. on September 07, 2003, 05:56:07 AM
I'll write to google about this problem - don't know how long it takes for the answer.
Title: Re:google banner making tables screwed seems to get worse?
Post by: Alexandre P. on September 07, 2003, 03:37:05 PM
maybe it could help if the banner ad was a long vertical rectangle (like on Sourceforge) instead of an horizontal banner (like it is now) ?
Title: Re:google banner making tables screwed seems to get worse?
Post by: bostasp on September 07, 2003, 03:56:09 PM
do we have to have it?
Title: Re:google banner making tables screwed seems to get worse?
Post by: Acf on September 07, 2003, 04:00:55 PM
Quote from: bostasp on September 07, 2003, 03:56:09 PM
do we have to have it?

<div style="visibility: hidden;><!--googlebar-->google my w3c page dudes</div> :P
Title: Re:google banner making tables screwed seems to get worse?
Post by: bostasp on September 07, 2003, 04:08:18 PM
:D
Title: Re:google banner making tables screwed seems to get worse?
Post by: Jeff Lewis on September 08, 2003, 09:24:35 AM
Quote from: bostasp on September 07, 2003, 03:56:09 PM
do we have to have it?

Yes :)
Title: Re:google banner making tables screwed seems to get worse?
Post by: David on September 08, 2003, 10:23:02 AM
Quote from: Jeff Lewis on September 08, 2003, 09:24:35 AM
Quote from: bostasp on September 07, 2003, 03:56:09 PM
do we have to have it?

Yes :)
Until others start advertising on this site.
Title: Re:google banner making tables screwed seems to get worse?
Post by: Omar Bazavilvazo on September 08, 2003, 03:15:08 PM
that %&/%$&/( banner screws my mozilla browser VERY often now :(
Title: Re:google banner making tables screwed seems to get worse?
Post by: [Unknown] on September 08, 2003, 03:30:13 PM
*coughwanittogoaway?http://www.simplemachines.org/banner.php (http://www.simplemachines.org/banner.php)cough*

-[Unknown]
Title: Re:google banner making tables screwed seems to get worse?
Post by: treo on September 08, 2003, 03:41:08 PM
how about this style of including the ad in the page:
googlead.html has only the google ad code in it and it is loaded by an iframe
Title: Re:google banner making tables screwed seems to get worse?
Post by: Aquilo on September 08, 2003, 09:37:24 PM
Quote from: treo on September 08, 2003, 03:41:08 PM
how about this style of including the ad in the page:
googlead.html has only the google ad code in it and it is loaded by an iframe

your not supost to tamper with there ad code, :-\ It might not work if it where in an iframe because goggle has to scan the page and load ads relevant to the content!
Title: Re:google banner making tables screwed seems to get worse?
Post by: Skoen on September 09, 2003, 01:30:37 AM
Yeah, but still it is kind of odd to see that the ads are making problems for Mozilla users. Not that it applies me, because I'm using IE/Avant Browser, but there are many users, and then it's kind of bad to see that Google uses code that don't apply for all of the users.
My site does validate for both Mozilla, Opera and IE users.
Title: Re:google banner making tables screwed seems to get worse?
Post by: Jeff Lewis on September 09, 2003, 07:05:49 AM
We ARE working with Google to try to correct this.
Title: Re:google banner making tables screwed seems to get worse?
Post by: Dietrich on September 10, 2003, 01:04:09 PM
it doesn't seem to appear any more :)
Title: Re:google banner making tables screwed seems to get worse?
Post by: Spaceman-Spiff on September 10, 2003, 04:28:32 PM
true, it looks fine now :)
Title: Re:google banner making tables screwed seems to get worse?
Post by: [Unknown] on September 10, 2003, 06:07:38 PM
It's still causing minor problems, but I got it to work with a two table system.

Still, this has really decreased my faith in Google.

-[Unknown]
Title: Re:google banner making tables screwed seems to get worse?
Post by: charlottezweb on September 10, 2003, 07:30:45 PM
I too have noticed that it hasn't happened to me today (or at least since earlier today around noonish) in mozilla

Yippee!
Title: Re:google banner making tables screwed seems to get worse?
Post by: Jeff Lewis on September 10, 2003, 07:51:15 PM
Same here but it IS still serving somewhat relevant ads - nice Unknown ;)
Title: Re:google banner making tables screwed seems to get worse?
Post by: Wezz6400 on September 11, 2003, 06:31:16 PM
Quote from: [Unknown] on September 08, 2003, 03:30:13 PM
*coughwanittogoaway?http://www.simplemachines.org/banner.php (http://www.simplemachines.org/banner.php)cough*

-[Unknown]
Is it mee or is that quite cheap? Too bad I've got nothing to advertise though, and not the money to pay for it. :)
Title: Re:google banner making tables screwed seems to get worse?
Post by: Jeff Lewis on September 11, 2003, 07:04:46 PM
We prefer to not call it cheap and instead call it inexpensive ;)

We're not looking to rip people off with banners, we just want to cover costs :)