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Title: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Grudge on August 24, 2007, 11:34:35 AM
Simple Machines are proud to annouce that today, 25th August 2007, the first beta release of SMF 2.0 is in the hands of our Charter Members.

This beta release marks a significant milestone for us, and is the culmination of over eighteen months of discussion, coding and testing since work began in January 2006. We expect it will be quite a few months more before we're ready to release the first public beta but in the mean time feel free to check out Introducing SMF 2.0 (http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=163438.0) for a taste of things to come. You can find out more information about the Charter Member program here (http://www.simplemachines.org/charter/).

Below is a summary of some of the new features that can be found in SMF 2.0 - with more to follow:
Regards,

Simple Machines

Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: H on August 25, 2007, 12:26:51 PM
Digg it :D

http://digg.com/software/SMF_2_0_beta_1
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Dragooon on August 25, 2007, 12:32:07 PM
That was quick :P
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: SleePy on August 25, 2007, 12:33:44 PM
/me registered a dig account just to dig this :P
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: vbgamer45 on August 25, 2007, 12:35:28 PM
If possible I would add some more text to the digg aritcle in the title and description so people understand what SMF is and why this release is special.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: shadow82x on August 25, 2007, 12:43:28 PM
I just want to brag to say how much I like it. :P All of you public people have to wait. muahahha
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: jerm on August 25, 2007, 12:50:38 PM
Excellent work dev team :)
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Peter Duggan on August 25, 2007, 12:59:44 PM
Quote from: shadow82x on August 25, 2007, 12:43:28 PM
I just want to brag to say how much I like it. :P All of you public people have to wait. muahahha

What a useful and mature post! :-X
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Coldfx on August 25, 2007, 01:05:36 PM
@ SleePy: Hah,  I did the same! And got the first comment ;D


And how come my quotes aren't properly being carried to the quick reply box?
/me smells a bug..
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: THUNDERxRAGE on August 25, 2007, 01:07:15 PM
I hope that all the mods and templates will be updated to work with 2.0!

Thanks for the hard work to continue improving SMF.  :)
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: codenaught on August 25, 2007, 01:09:16 PM
Great job developers! :)
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: rsw686 on August 25, 2007, 01:16:50 PM
Nice can't wait to test this out. I'll probably pay the money to become a charter member. Has the feature been added so the forum name of forums not available to guest still show. I want to be able to restrict my classifieds section to users only, but I want the guests to know that it exists. I think there is a mod for 1.1.3, but I prefer not to install mods.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Bigguy on August 25, 2007, 01:19:37 PM
Nice going; glad it's finally out.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: JoomlaJon on August 25, 2007, 01:20:32 PM
Wiiiiiiiiihaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!

Gonna try it right now :)

Danke as they say in Germany!

/jon
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Ophie on August 25, 2007, 03:44:11 PM
been looking forward to this.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: shadow82x on August 25, 2007, 03:47:25 PM
You guys are going to like the ACP. ;)

They forgot to mention that in the Introducing SMF2
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: SleePy on August 25, 2007, 04:27:22 PM
From the Introducing SMF 2.0 (http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=163438.0) topic (Which I found a mistake link the link to it here in this topic) I would like to point out this was said:
QuoteThis is only a handful of the many improvements made in 2.0.

We didn't tell you everything.. We had to leave some of the pies contents unknown..
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Hqjrt on August 25, 2007, 05:06:56 PM
Well, that's me registered for a Charter membership. I hope the Custom Profile fields thing does everything I need. And that my expiry date of December 1969 is a bug that won't effect things.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: JayBachatero on August 25, 2007, 05:24:18 PM
Quote from: Hqjrt on August 25, 2007, 05:06:56 PM
Well, that's me registered for a Charter membership. I hope the Custom Profile fields thing does everything I need. And that my expiry date of December 1969 is a bug that won't effect things.
Once payment clears your account gets automatically updated.  What is the status of the payment in paypal?
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Hqjrt on August 25, 2007, 05:33:44 PM
Payment is completed according to Paypal, but Pending in my SMF profile. So I'm a bit confused :( I want to get up a test board.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: karlbenson on August 25, 2007, 05:43:57 PM
Its fantastic news that SMF2.0 beta has been released.

I'm sure with all the new Charter Members it will create, Simple Machines LLC will be raking it in
(http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/2076/9208v7vm0.gif)

I'm sure it will be very useful going forward as SMF gets bigger and better.

Ka Ching.

;)
I better grab Charter myself soon, I've already received my first PM for one of my mods.  Will this mod work with 2.0, can you make it work for 2.0 beta. ;)
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: JayBachatero on August 25, 2007, 05:44:28 PM
Send an email to [email protected] with the receipt info and one of the admins should take of this for you when they get a chance.  Also was the server here slow when you signed up?
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: unExpected on August 25, 2007, 05:55:08 PM
Quote<script type="text/javascript">
digg_url = 'http://digg.com/software/SMF_2_0_beta_1';
</script>
<script src="http://digg.com/tools/diggthis.js" type="text/javascript"></script>
::)

Quote« Last Edit: Today at 02:25:34 AM by SleePy »
Weak up Sleepy ;)
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: unExpected on August 25, 2007, 05:59:18 PM
just now something strange happened, I copied that

<script type="text/javascript">
digg_url = 'http://digg.com/software/SMF_2_0_beta_1';
</script>
<script src="http://digg.com/tools/diggthis.js" type="text/javascript"></script>

and pasted in editor Pressed CTRL A and then clicked quote button......text was removed only both opening and ending quote remains there
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: JayBachatero on August 25, 2007, 06:00:15 PM
The html tag can only be used by admins.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Hqjrt on August 25, 2007, 06:00:30 PM
Receipt info thanks, yes, server was slow.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: unExpected on August 25, 2007, 06:03:15 PM
Text means that <script type="text/javascript"> same happend if you select manually with mouse (instead of pressing CTRL A to select whole text)

Even quoting this single line <script type="text/javascript"> results those both quotes Nothing happens while pressing CTRL Z to undo
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: unExpected on August 25, 2007, 06:04:12 PM
Quote from: JayBachatero on August 25, 2007, 06:00:15 PM
The html tag can only be used by admins.
Hmmm Thanks
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: SleePy on August 25, 2007, 06:08:30 PM
Quote from: Mashahood on August 25, 2007, 05:55:08 PM
Quote<script type="text/javascript">
digg_url = 'http://digg.com/software/SMF_2_0_beta_1';
</script>
<script src="http://digg.com/tools/diggthis.js" type="text/javascript"></script>
::)

Quote« Last Edit: Today at 02:25:34 AM by SleePy »

Weak up Sleepy ;)

I was fixing the link to the 2.0 Introduction topic and forgot about that. One of the Admins will be around soon and can fix it though.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: THUNDERxRAGE on August 25, 2007, 06:11:11 PM
Before I decide to pay for the membership, I just want to know if one thing is fixed in this version.  Will the viewable boards for the important groups (top part) override the viewable boards for the post-based (bottom part) groups?  Just wondering, because it is totally frustrating, because I put some members in a specific group for a specific access, but they still view everything, because of their current post-based group.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: unExpected on August 25, 2007, 06:24:37 PM
Quote from: JayBachatero on August 25, 2007, 06:00:15 PM
The html tag can only be used by admins.

I just tried to quote below code on my installed board....same happend while quoting below code (infect I clicked the Code button... same result) after selection resulted both starting and ending quote code and removed that code.....is that a bug?


<script type="text/javascript">
digg_url = 'http://digg.com/software/SMF_2_0_beta_1';
</script>
<script src="http://digg.com/tools/diggthis.js" type="text/javascript"></script>


Edit: Any thing starting with < results this error, for example quoting <Example will result a single starting quote
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: RiderRaghav on August 25, 2007, 06:54:19 PM
I'm glad to see the release :) ...
Dug ed  the thread also ;)
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Harro on August 25, 2007, 06:56:52 PM
This is great news.
Another milestone for SMF!!
Congrats and thanks to the devs for their hard work!
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Aaron on August 25, 2007, 07:05:32 PM
This is absolutely great news. Congrats to everyone who's made this release possible! :)
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: karlbenson on August 25, 2007, 07:09:09 PM
Yeah.

In my experience, don't forget to thank the girlfriends, boyfriends, partners of the developers for their understanding.
They've probably lost a few nights out because of 'in the middle of writing this or that function for smf'.

:p

I echo the sentiments of many of the above posters.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Gary on August 25, 2007, 07:15:20 PM
Yeah, congrats to those involved, which doesn't include me, so why am I here? :P

-ALM
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: SleePy on August 25, 2007, 07:17:57 PM
Quote from: ALM on August 25, 2007, 07:15:20 PM
Yeah, congrats to those involved, which doesn't include me, so why am I here? :P

-ALM

Your unfinished documents count as help :P
Now go finish them slacker! :D
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Gary on August 25, 2007, 07:20:09 PM
Wait? I'm supposed to be doing documents? So THAT's what I was hired to do... I never knew that... :P

-ALM
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Peter Duggan on August 25, 2007, 07:36:11 PM
Quote from: THUNDERxRAGE on August 25, 2007, 06:11:11 PM
Before I decide to pay for the membership, I just want to know if one thing is fixed in this version.  Will the viewable boards for the important groups (top part) override the viewable boards for the post-based (bottom part) groups?  Just wondering, because it is totally frustrating, because I put some members in a specific group for a specific access, but they still view everything, because of their current post-based group.

Please don't let me put you off becoming a Charter Member, but (from what you've just said) please think twice about subscribing solely to put this first beta straight into a production environment.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Oldiesmann on August 25, 2007, 07:49:24 PM
Quote from: Hqjrt on August 25, 2007, 05:33:44 PM
Payment is completed according to Paypal, but Pending in my SMF profile. So I'm a bit confused :( I want to get up a test board.

Just checked the Paypal history and do see that the payment has completed. Your Charter Membership will be activated momentarily ;)
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Daniel15 on August 25, 2007, 08:28:18 PM
Please note that most mods are currently not compatible with SMF 2.0. If you're using any mods, they will be removed during the upgrade. I have not had time to update my mods, but they should be updated shortly :).

A snapshot of the SMFShop development version that's partially compatible with SMF 2.0 may be downloaded from http://smfshop.dev.dansoftaustralia.net/snapshots/smf_2-0/smfshop-20070826-r126.tar.gz. Note that I have not worked on this since April, so I'm not sure whether it still works or not.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: ZeusChicago on August 25, 2007, 09:03:34 PM
 :D Excellent. See, that extra month or so for Charter Members wasnt so bad, heck, the time flew by!

Z
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Oldiesmann on August 25, 2007, 09:30:16 PM
I will be updating my mods soon :)
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: PoLlama on August 25, 2007, 09:54:14 PM
For the WYSIWYG poster, there is one small issue that really kills it for me.

If you click in the box(with no text), the cursor does not appear, and if you click off the text, the text is not unselected/the cursor does not appear at the end of the text.

Small, but really, really annoying.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: shadow82x on August 25, 2007, 10:00:18 PM
Ahh I get that too at my forum. Also sometimes when you use codes it displays the closing tags.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Dannii on August 25, 2007, 11:25:00 PM
Congrats to the Dev team (and all the others too)!
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Stargater59 on August 25, 2007, 11:45:51 PM
Wow, I really can't wait for 2.0. So many things being added..

Just like to say though, that I would like to see a new theme. Nothing against the current one. But this being 2.0, a new look would be cool.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: shadow82x on August 25, 2007, 11:57:57 PM
As said so many times a theme will be coming. When 1.1 was out the the theme did not come out until RC2.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: codenaught on August 26, 2007, 12:15:49 AM
Quote from: shadow82x on August 25, 2007, 11:57:57 PM
As said so many times a theme will be coming. When 1.1 was out the the theme did not come out until RC2.
Just a correction: A new theme is likely to come. We haven't made any promises with this however. One thing we defintely want to work on is getting the HTML output polished up and more semantical with fewer tables where tables are not needed.

And yes 1.1 didn't have a new theme until RC stage. There is a chance it may take awhile before 2.0 would have a new theme as well.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: lepard on August 26, 2007, 01:02:04 AM
Just signed up and am awaiting my upgrade. What do I do next?
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: codenaught on August 26, 2007, 01:07:08 AM
Quote from: lepard on August 26, 2007, 01:02:04 AM
Just signed up and am awaiting my upgrade. What do I do next?
I reckon that you just need to wait for a moment. I think once your payment goes through you will be added to the Charter Members group automatically and will be able to download SMF 2.0 Beta 1 and upgrade your forum. And of course if you need help upgrading it you can post a ticket in the CM helpdesk (when you have access) for someone to do it for you.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: scheols on August 26, 2007, 01:16:28 AM
I hope im charter.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: SleePy on August 26, 2007, 01:18:09 AM
Though I highly recommend you don't upgrade a live environment to 2.0 Beta 1.
It is our first 2.0 Beta so their might be issues and it may take time to get it fixed.

As well No mods will work with 2.0 and most will require rewrites to work with 2.0.
And Custom themes will not have the new Features that the new themes have.
As well as languages are not all updated to 2.0

So basically your forum will be clean of any customizations really :P
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Thantos on August 26, 2007, 01:22:45 AM
There appears to be an issue with the subscription handler.  Some of you may have to wait for manual confirmation.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: nitins60 on August 26, 2007, 01:47:21 AM
Nice to see SMF2! once i recieve my google payment for this month, will take charter membership. i will be waiting for admod upgrade!
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Hqjrt on August 26, 2007, 03:57:57 AM
Well I have the beta now and :fapfapfap: it's awesome.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: LiroyvH on August 26, 2007, 07:55:44 AM
Very nice software,
thank you :)
I liked the upgrader :P

Couple of bugs, but heyyy, it's a Beta :P
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Tristan Perry on August 26, 2007, 08:41:34 AM
Am about to install this on a real server (I've only been playing around with it on my local test server) - should be fun :P

And I agree with CoreISP, the upgrader is pretty awesome!
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Ryan on August 26, 2007, 09:40:18 AM
Quote from: Thantos on August 26, 2007, 01:22:45 AM
There appears to be an issue with the subscription handler.  Some of you may have to wait for manual confirmation.
SO finnaly SMF have the same problem everyone else seem to have with the paid subscription mod, hopefully they can fix it :) and release a fix woo!
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: lepard on August 26, 2007, 10:50:01 AM
I have still not been upgraded.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Dragooon on August 26, 2007, 10:58:13 AM
Shadow, He said earlier that he paid. As Thantos mentioned there are a few problems going on with Paid Subscriber.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: elwizard on August 26, 2007, 01:16:29 PM
Good job staff  ;) Waiting  for the SMF 2.0 final release to update MKPortal. When will be left it to public?
Other question: what I have to do to be a charter member?
Thanks  ;D
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: babjusi on August 26, 2007, 01:23:41 PM
Quote from: elwizard on August 26, 2007, 01:16:29 PM

Other question: what I have to do to be a charter member?
Thanks  ;D

Here you can read all about the Charter membership

http://www.simplemachines.org/charter/
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: elwizard on August 26, 2007, 01:26:07 PM
Thank you babjusi. ;)
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: babjusi on August 26, 2007, 01:32:59 PM
Quote from: elwizard on August 26, 2007, 01:26:07 PM
Thank you babjusi. ;)

You are welcome elwizard
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: trioptic on August 26, 2007, 08:28:04 PM
wow!

I have been a long-time SMF user, and they have been the backbone for many of my sites, especially with the easy integration compared to other solutions.  This release not only answers many gripes, but looks AWESOME (I see the forum is now running on beta).

regarding charter membership - does that entitle me to some assistance at upgrading my existing 1.0.8 to the 2.0 beta, along with future updates to the beta as well?  (Well, I would probably wait until a few betas down the line before attempting).  I have used a few custom hacks, but I don't need to keep them - I would only want to keep my member logins, and the certain posts.  I would be able to do lots of cleaning up before hand... (perhaps this is better in an email?  I figured this post would be just as good of a place as any).
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: SleePy on August 26, 2007, 09:42:19 PM
Yes as a charter member you can submit a ticket with the information we need (You will find a topic with the information we request for a upgrade/install in the charter boards). But as your thinking it would be good to wait a bit before you use 2.0 in a live environment. Though you can get Charter at any time as it does last a full year.
Runnings tests is perfect on test sites :) Thats what lots of the Charter members are doing and it is helping find those mistakes :o

Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: christicehurst on August 26, 2007, 09:49:14 PM
I have been thinking of getting Charter membership, howver I live in Australia aand the cost would be greater. Any idea what the convertion currency rate would be?
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Gary on August 26, 2007, 09:55:37 PM
$50.00 USD = $60.3726 AUD

So not a lot really.

-ALM
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: christicehurst on August 26, 2007, 10:00:57 PM
I might not get Charter because I don't have time to test it out and it 2.0 doesn't work with any mods or themes. Even TinyPortal won't upgrade for a fair while.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Ðyєgσv on August 26, 2007, 10:08:57 PM
Those are amazing news! I can't wait until upgrading my forum, though I'll have to wait until it gets fully released.

Congratulations for the magnificent work guys ;)
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: 青山 素子 on August 26, 2007, 11:43:03 PM
For those who want to calculate the cost of charter membership in their local currency, check http://www.xe.com/

Also, to enforce a point: This beta is not a good idea for using to upgrade a production board, especially one with mods and custom themes. Right now, very few mods have been updated, and practically no themes will work.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: lepard on August 26, 2007, 11:58:07 PM
I am chomping at the bit. Been waiting almost 24 hours now and still nothing. Hoped to upgrade my page today. Arghhhhhhhh. Lalalalalalalalalalala.. Charter member upgrader please start working.


Quote from: lepard on August 26, 2007, 10:50:01 AM
I have still not been upgraded.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: 青山 素子 on August 27, 2007, 12:09:04 AM
Quote from: lepard on August 26, 2007, 11:58:07 PM
I am chomping at the bit. Been waiting almost 24 hours now and still nothing. Hoped to upgrade my page today. Arghhhhhhhh. Lalalalalalalalalalala.. Charter member upgrader please start working.

Send an e-mail to info at simplemachines.org with the transaction number PayPal provided, please.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: lepard on August 27, 2007, 12:56:43 AM
Sent.

Quote from: Motoko-chan on August 27, 2007, 12:09:04 AM
Quote from: lepard on August 26, 2007, 11:58:07 PM
I am chomping at the bit. Been waiting almost 24 hours now and still nothing. Hoped to upgrade my page today. Arghhhhhhhh. Lalalalalalalalalalala.. Charter member upgrader please start working.

Send an e-mail to info at simplemachines.org with the transaction number PayPal provided, please.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Jazhawk on August 27, 2007, 01:06:31 AM
Must be stuff under the hood because it looks exactly the same to me.

-Jazhawk
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: shadow82x on August 27, 2007, 01:09:28 AM
theres a lot of new features for users and admin like group selection, editor, pm rules/layout and a lot more redesigned things for the admin.

It's nothing like 1.1 trust me
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: codenaught on August 27, 2007, 01:10:12 AM
Quote from: Jazhawk on August 27, 2007, 01:06:31 AM
Must be stuff under the hood because it looks exactly the same to me.

-Jazhawk
Well no new default theme has been released at this time. There are a number of noticeable changes on the user level that you can see if you look around such as WYSIWYG poster, option to ignore specified boards on unread posts page, improved calendar display, many additional settings for displaying pms including 'rules' that let you determine what happens to your PMs. However I won't argue, certainly A LOT of the additional stuff is in the backend, such as the moderation center and many new options in the admin panel.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: phasuk111 on August 27, 2007, 02:00:57 AM
thanks
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Daniel15 on August 27, 2007, 04:03:43 AM
QuoteThis beta is not a good idea for using to upgrade a production board, especially one with mods and custom themes. Right now, very few mods have been updated, and practically no themes will work.
Anyone want Bloc's Apollo theme for SMF 2.0? I upgraded it manually (for my site), and it's probably the only other SMF 2.0 theme at the moment :P
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Dragooon on August 27, 2007, 05:26:57 AM
Nyah Can you update some other themes? :P
I have about 12 on my list if you dont mind :P :P
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: IvorH on August 27, 2007, 06:12:50 AM
This really is a top notch program .. best $50 I ever spent :)
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Gary on August 27, 2007, 07:06:08 AM
Quote from: Daniel15 on August 27, 2007, 04:03:43 AM
QuoteThis beta is not a good idea for using to upgrade a production board, especially one with mods and custom themes. Right now, very few mods have been updated, and practically no themes will work.
Anyone want Bloc's Apollo theme for SMF 2.0? I upgraded it manually (for my site), and it's probably the only other SMF 2.0 theme at the moment :P

vSMFB-Multi-4 got updated to 2.0 as well for my site, but as vSMFB-Multi-6, which I plan to release soon.

-ALM
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: TarantinoArchives on August 27, 2007, 07:18:33 AM
can't wait for this to go public. running a huge forum (like many here), I especially anticipate those features that will make my work easier and increase performance. Hooray to SMF for the great work, can't wait to try it out myself.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Lee69 on August 27, 2007, 09:40:20 AM
Anyone got a demo up?
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: nitins60 on August 27, 2007, 10:50:05 AM
Please upgrade Dilber MC theme first. It's the no1 theme for SMF as per statistics :P
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Gary on August 27, 2007, 11:17:36 AM
Quote from: Lee69 on August 27, 2007, 09:40:20 AM
Anyone got a demo up?

http://simplemachines.org/community

:P

Quote from: nitins60 on August 27, 2007, 10:50:05 AM
Please upgrade Dilber MC theme first. It's the no1 theme for SMF as per statistics :P

Updating themes is upto the author to do. :P

-ALM
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: shadow82x on August 27, 2007, 11:21:25 AM
I upgraded my forum to 2.0 just because I wanted to help all the bugs be found and fixed before it goes public. We were aware of the risk too.

Another demo - www.egadforums.com
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: christicehurst on August 27, 2007, 11:22:50 AM
Quote from: ALM on August 27, 2007, 11:17:36 AM
Quote from: Lee69 on August 27, 2007, 09:40:20 AM
Anyone got a demo up?

http://simplemachines.org/community

(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/tongue.gif)

Quote from: nitins60 on August 27, 2007, 10:50:05 AM
Please upgrade Dilber MC theme first. It's the no1 theme for SMF as per statistics :P

Updating themes is upto the author to do. :P

-ALM

That's not a real demo. Meaning people can't access the admin/mod section. Because it's mostly a admin/mod upgrade, people wouldn't mind seeing what's on the other side.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: shadow82x on August 27, 2007, 11:24:42 AM
I think a true screenshot of the ACP will be cool I will try and get one.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: SleePy on August 27, 2007, 11:43:37 AM
Quote from: Daniel15 on August 27, 2007, 04:03:43 AM
Anyone want Bloc's Apollo theme for SMF 2.0? I upgraded it manually (for my site), and it's probably the only other SMF 2.0 theme at the moment :P

Thats a lie :P
I have had the bloggy theme converted to 2.0 before it was even approved on the theme site :D
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Firefree on August 27, 2007, 03:18:06 PM
Wholy, I diddn't saw this one, Don't know if my host will install it.

Mhh I hope there will be somethime more functions, like gaming things
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Peter Duggan on August 27, 2007, 03:42:34 PM
Quote from: Firefree on August 27, 2007, 03:18:06 PM
Mhh I hope there will be somethime more functions, like gaming things

For Simple Machines *Forum*? ???
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Karuhun on August 27, 2007, 05:40:26 PM
Hmmm, the gaming thing for SimpleMachines *forum* ?
Nice question Peter :)
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: adicrst on August 27, 2007, 06:28:14 PM
when will it be out for the public ?
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Ðyєgσv on August 27, 2007, 06:56:08 PM
And what about this skin? Is it going to be the default one in the final version of SMF 2.0? 'Cause I love it :P
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: H on August 27, 2007, 06:56:26 PM
Quote from: Firefree on August 27, 2007, 03:18:06 PM
Wholy, I diddn't saw this one, Don't know if my host will install it.

Mhh I hope there will be somethime more functions, like gaming things

There currently aren't any planned but like Peter said this isn't a gaming forum.

However you can find some things, like an arcade mod, on the Mods Site (http://mods.simplemachines.org).

You can also request mods in Mod Requests (http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?board=79.0) ;)

Quote from: Dyegov on August 27, 2007, 06:56:08 PM
And what about this skin? Is it going to be the default one in the final version of SMF 2.0? 'Cause I love it :P

The skin used here may or may not be available in the future. :)
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: eriktherandom on August 27, 2007, 07:02:26 PM
Can't wait for it to be released to the public! I used SMF since the very first version! SMF Fan 4 Life!
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Thantos on August 27, 2007, 07:45:38 PM
Quote from: adicrst on August 27, 2007, 06:28:14 PM
when will it be out for the public ?
Probably not for a good while.  You can count on at least one more charter only beta.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: LeGaS on August 28, 2007, 03:47:41 AM
Wow, really nice, can't wait for the public beta. :)
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Prasad007 on August 28, 2007, 04:39:32 AM
Now I just HAVE to get my charter membership!! :P :)
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: The Tornado on August 28, 2007, 06:32:16 AM
That's really nice ...

I v a smf forum and i m really amazed by this new version

but what about the next stable version ??
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Ashdaw on August 28, 2007, 08:53:11 AM
I would also like a hint on how far away is the RTM of SMF 2.0 ? :D

Seeing as this is the easiert software I have used to date it would be really interesting to see how well the new version would go? Keep up the good work guys. :)
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: AdrenalineRider on August 28, 2007, 10:25:05 AM
Congratz, hope to see the public version soon ;D
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: 青山 素子 on August 28, 2007, 10:27:20 AM
Quote from: Ashdaw on August 28, 2007, 08:53:11 AM
I would also like a hint on how far away is the RTM of SMF 2.0 ? :D

Sorry, we don't have a date on that.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: mama on August 28, 2007, 01:35:52 PM
Great job with this excellent software/forum. ;)
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Peter Duggan on August 28, 2007, 01:51:39 PM
Quote from: H on August 27, 2007, 06:56:26 PM
There currently aren't any planned but like Peter said this is a gaming forum.

Peter said *what*? :o
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: H on August 28, 2007, 01:56:42 PM
Quote from: Peter Duggan on August 28, 2007, 01:51:39 PM
Quote from: H on August 27, 2007, 06:56:26 PM
There currently aren't any planned but like Peter said this is a gaming forum.

Peter said *what*? :o
/me edits previous post.

Must have been half asleep when I posted that :P
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Ðyєgσv on August 28, 2007, 02:26:43 PM
Quote from: H on August 27, 2007, 06:56:26 PM
The skin used here may or may not be available in the future. :)

It should be the default skin in SMF; it's surely more attracting than the actual default one (Eye candy) ;)
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: karlbenson on August 28, 2007, 02:37:14 PM
I'd definately dump the Classic YabBse theme.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: grafor on August 28, 2007, 05:31:05 PM
Have installed a update from 1.1.3 to 2.0 Beta 1 and it works pritty well !!!!
Now we are busy to test it out.
Amazing this SMF 2.0 !!!!!
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: 青山 素子 on August 28, 2007, 06:30:18 PM
Quote from: karlbenson on August 28, 2007, 02:37:14 PM
I'd definately dump the Classic YabBse theme.

I actually find the classic theme as a decent base, even if it doesn't have all the features. It is a bit old, but it might just have the simplest code of all the ones that ship by default.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: d1m0n on August 29, 2007, 02:02:15 AM
Perfect. Congratz SMF team and good luck :)
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: humanporkrind on August 29, 2007, 04:56:41 PM
Is there a test site so people can take a look at or some screen shots?

DUH this site
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: shadow82x on August 29, 2007, 05:13:23 PM
Quote from: Humanporkrind on August 29, 2007, 04:56:41 PM
Is there a test site so people can take a look at or some screen shots?

DUH this site
As a side note you are not allowed to get screenshots only the ones in "Introducing SMF2" may be shared.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: christicehurst on August 29, 2007, 08:21:15 PM
Quote from: shadow82x on August 29, 2007, 05:13:23 PM
Quote from: Humanporkrind on August 29, 2007, 04:56:41 PM
Is there a test site so people can take a look at or some screen shots?

DUH this site
As a side note you are not allowed to get screenshots only the ones in "Introducing SMF2" may be shared.

Why not?
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: shadow82x on August 29, 2007, 08:22:06 PM
Quote from: christicehurst on August 29, 2007, 08:21:15 PM
Quote from: shadow82x on August 29, 2007, 05:13:23 PM
Quote from: Humanporkrind on August 29, 2007, 04:56:41 PM
Is there a test site so people can take a look at or some screen shots?

DUH this site
As a side note you are not allowed to get screenshots only the ones in "Introducing SMF2" may be shared.

Why not?
I do not make the rules but as a charter member I was told not to share screenshots. If you want to see them become a charter member I guess. :P
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: christicehurst on August 29, 2007, 08:29:06 PM
Well they made that rule to push people to buy the membership. Seriously, you can't get a demo version of it, you can't see the admin/moderation section, only tiny screenshots. vbulletin and other forum software allow a 24 hour admin demo. A few days back there was about 140 bugs or not and now it's been released to the charter members. It seems to be a abit of cash grab at the moment. Of course most people will say it's a "beta testing".
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Thantos on August 29, 2007, 08:34:52 PM
How many places have a demo of their BETA software?
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: shadow82x on August 29, 2007, 08:40:51 PM
Quote from: Thantos on August 29, 2007, 08:34:52 PM
How many places have a demo of their BETA software?
one, two, three, ZERO
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: christicehurst on August 29, 2007, 08:49:00 PM
Quote from: Thantos on August 29, 2007, 08:34:52 PM
How many places have a demo of their BETA software?

How many place charge money for a BETA? Only place I know of is Microsoft...
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Coldfx on August 29, 2007, 08:50:39 PM
Quote from: christicehurst on August 29, 2007, 08:49:00 PM
Quote from: Thantos on August 29, 2007, 08:34:52 PM
How many places have a demo of their BETA software?

How many place charge money for a BETA? Only place I know of is Microsoft...

How many places offer previews of things/bonuses to donators?
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: christicehurst on August 29, 2007, 08:55:10 PM
Quote from: SySRoot74 on August 29, 2007, 08:50:39 PM
Quote from: christicehurst on August 29, 2007, 08:49:00 PM
Quote from: Thantos on August 29, 2007, 08:34:52 PM
How many places have a demo of their BETA software?

How many place charge money for a BETA? Only place I know of is Microsoft...

How many places offer previews of things/bonuses to donators?

It's not really donation. It's a paid membership to jump ahead in the support que line and to get your hands on software. Most people I ask about the membership and their main reason is to get the beta software and the added support.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: nitins60 on August 29, 2007, 09:12:26 PM
It's not about money/demos!! Usually SMF releases beta to charter members first. Once the all bugs which are popped up, will be fixed and release most *secure* version for public. That's the main point of Charter Members if i am correct :P
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Sordell Media on August 29, 2007, 09:12:59 PM
Which would you prefer? Them offering a way for those who are able/willing to get the software before its ready for release, and aid them in bug discovery etc, and enable them to keep the public release free, or to have to pay just to use the software so they can hire people to do the bug testing?
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Thantos on August 29, 2007, 09:16:13 PM
I can't deny that some people get Charter membership just for the beta.  I can't and won't stop them from doing so.  I think the support services are of much more value but that is me.

We released the beta just to the charter members not as a money grab but to keep good on our word.
Quote from: http://www.simplemachines.org/charter/
Advanced Betas

As a way to thank you for their support, you will have access to any new versions of SMF before everyone else. While we have a small team of beta testers to make sure a beta release is ready for you to play with, you'll still be within the first hundred people World-wide to have access to our new code. This also means we take your feedback seriously; we want to deliver the best software that we can!
And the feedback has been great.  The suggestions being made are helping to shape 2.0.

IMO if we were to release the 2.0 beta to charter members and then put up a public test site then we'd be breaking our word, morally even if not legally.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: nitins60 on August 29, 2007, 09:22:37 PM
If i remember correctly, SMF 1.1 final released to charter members just 1week before to public release
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: shadow82x on August 29, 2007, 09:27:12 PM
AS of what being said I became a charter member yes because of SMF2 because I wanted to help get a lot of bugs out now so you guys don't have to deal with it when it goes public. So many times they say not to use it on a live site and to remember the risks which is true. IMO I think most people became charter members

a) To get advanced support one on one
b) To donate to SMF for being a great software

Why not support a software that is FREE and is better than PAID softwares?
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: FunPika4 on August 29, 2007, 09:34:17 PM
Quote from: Thantos on August 29, 2007, 09:16:13 PM
I can't deny that some people get Charter membership just for the beta.  I can't and won't stop them from doing so.  I think the support services are of much more value but that is me.

We released the beta just to the charter members not as a money grab but to keep good on our word.
Quote from: http://www.simplemachines.org/charter/
Advanced Betas

As a way to thank you for their support, you will have access to any new versions of SMF before everyone else. While we have a small team of beta testers to make sure a beta release is ready for you to play with, you'll still be within the first hundred people World-wide to have access to our new code. This also means we take your feedback seriously; we want to deliver the best software that we can!
And the feedback has been great.  The suggestions being made are helping to shape 2.0.

IMO if we were to release the 2.0 beta to charter members and then put up a public test site then we'd be breaking our word, morally even if not legally.
*estimates 458 current Charter members* Lets see here...if 101+ of the 458 Charter members downloads the new beta, then the part of the word that I bolded will probably be broken. Because then some of the charter members will be within the first thousand people world-wide to have access to your new code, not the first hundred.  :P

I hope I got that right... :P
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: SleePy on August 29, 2007, 09:36:37 PM
Quote from: nitins60 on August 29, 2007, 09:22:37 PM
If i remember correctly, SMF 1.1 final released to charter members just 1week before to public release
FYI, We never put time tables out. As well 1.1 was feature locked at that time so there was only bug fixes being done.
It doesn't mater if it takes 6 months to get a public release even. Its just how it goes.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: DivineMessage on August 29, 2007, 11:15:22 PM
I'd be willing to pay for 2.0... I need the features badly and I love SMF but I run a non profit site and it already costs me enough... I am just so happy that it is released because maybe I will have it by December lol

Good job SMF Team!
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: 青山 素子 on August 29, 2007, 11:22:32 PM
Quote from: funpika on August 29, 2007, 09:34:17 PM
*estimates 458 current Charter members* Lets see here...if 101+ of the 458 Charter members downloads the new beta, then the part of the word that I bolded will probably be broken. Because then some of the charter members will be within the first thousand people world-wide to have access to your new code, not the first hundred.  :P

Thanks for the info on that. The text is really old, and we should update it.

Quote from: nitins60 on August 29, 2007, 09:22:37 PM
If i remember correctly, SMF 1.1 final released to charter members just 1week before to public release

Yep, and they got hit with a few fun bugs that required a patch. The normal release had the patch already applied. The normal users benefit a lot from the charter members testing the software.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: DivineMessage on August 29, 2007, 11:41:50 PM
I'd be beyond happy to have this in a month.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: codenaught on August 29, 2007, 11:44:58 PM
I can't understand why there are some people who seem to get so upset about the whole releasing to charter members first thing.

I tell you, the public would not be happy if these same releases were made to the public. It would be a support nightmare. And I literally mean it. We would be getting many duplicate bug reports (as we currently do, but to a much larger extent) and several people would complain about our software being so "buggy." At the end of the day, just remember that, no one, no one at all is getting paid here at SMF. We put the charter money into helping pay for expenses keeping this site up.

2.0 Beta 1 has a lot of quirks in it, and no matter how much we encourage people not to use it live yet, people still do. This is acceptable to some degree with charter members. Because there are only so many charter members so it can be fairly manageable to support them. But if it was already available for download, a lot of people would decide to jump in the deep end and run it on their live forum.

Some of these people will run into trouble with the upgrade, will have "forgotten" to make a backup, and they may be forced to start over. Some of the less forum technical people may not realize that not only will their mods and themes be lost, but so few of the mods and themes they had will be available. When 2.0 goes public, there will already be a number of mods updated to work for 2.0 from both team members who wrote their own mods, and charter members who also wrote their own mods.

And let's not all forget, we are FREE, we will always be FREE, and everyone WILL eventually get their hands on 2.0. Just have a little patience, all. ;) It may not be easy, I know, but the longer the wait, all the sweeter it will be when you finally get to try it. :)
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Thantos on August 30, 2007, 12:58:32 AM
Quote from: DivineMessage on August 29, 2007, 11:41:50 PM
I'd be beyond happy to have this in a month.
Sorry to say that you'll be disappointed in a month.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Paracelsus on August 30, 2007, 01:28:53 AM
Aaaahhh... just forget about those who complain of not having the 2.0 Beta. Because that's what this is - a BETA version, so SMF Devs need BETA TESTERS... what's the easiest and most logic way to select them?... Going for the Charter Members. ;)

As a matter of fact, if I was a Charter Member, I would surely be one to support SMF and not just to get the BETA... because the BETA satisfies just your curiosity, but on the other hand, is a "buggy" environment, you can't really use it "for real" because of the high risk of severe failures, and in the end you have to concentrate more on what is not working properly than to enjoy playing with the new "toy".

Furthermore, there's that little detail (which isn't so little) about SMF going from v1 till v2. This is the first one-jump version ever, so it is more than predictable that big conceptual changes are coming up and not just little patches here and there, and that demands more time than the usual to assure all things are as they should be for the public release.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Powerbob on August 30, 2007, 01:53:59 AM
I am a charter member, and have to agree with the statements above, smf 2.0 is "definitely not" for live boards at this moment in time. Bugs are turning up and being rectified daily. Documentation is still incomplete. There are no mods or extra skins available as yet. So be patient. Look forward to a great product when it's finally released.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: shadow82x on August 30, 2007, 01:59:33 AM
You guys saying there are no mods for the beta are wrong. :P Theres about 25 right now. Although as said above theres a bunch of bugs and I would not upgrade unless you know what your doing.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Dragooon on August 30, 2007, 03:03:28 AM
Actually Using SMF Beta As for live site is not a genius thing specially if it is huge. One word explains it all and that is "Beta 1" Its not even a "Release Candidate" it is "Beta 1" A simple Beta 1. Expect a lot of bugs as it is the first beta.

I am totally with Aka, If it would be released to public it will be a big trouble for SMF as there is NO docs and the other stuff.

SMF doesent uses Charter membership just to get money. They give advanced support in back. And as far as betas are concerned, I think they release it to CMs just to test the things out. As it is not a big crowed it can be handled and it helps team a lot with the bug reports. Along with that the Charter Mod authors are also able to upgrade there old mod to support with 2.0 so that they can make it public when it is actually Public(Well that is what I think).
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: shadow82x on August 30, 2007, 03:11:52 AM
Yep Dragooon your right. People are suprised that there are a lot of bugs in it. I mean..... beta  ..... b = buggy (not akabuggy's name) There are so many warnings. I have already seen to peole that were at 2.0 want to downgrade. :P
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Tristan Perry on August 30, 2007, 04:06:41 AM
Whilst I'd agree that there are bugs in SMF 2.0 beta 1, I have to stress that there aren't many bugs - especially in you know what you are doing.

I run SMF 2.0 on my largest 'live' site and it's going really well. I'm not showing off, although all these posts make it seem like SMF 2.0 is a pretty faulty piece of software - I personally feel it's pretty awesome :P
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: khoking on August 30, 2007, 04:30:18 AM
Great work for the SMF team. Hope those mod writers will update their mods to the latest 2.0 soon. :)

For me, I will wait patiently. My forum ain't broke now...so I don't want to mess with it. :P
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: searchgr on August 30, 2007, 04:38:22 AM
QuoteI run SMF 2.0 on my largest 'live' site and it's going really well.

Can you give us the url of your site?
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Tristan Perry on August 30, 2007, 04:54:04 AM
Quote from: searchgr on August 30, 2007, 04:38:22 AM
QuoteI run SMF 2.0 on my largest 'live' site and it's going really well.

Can you give us the url of your site?
http://forums.tauonline.org/index.php :)
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Artica on August 30, 2007, 06:26:06 AM
This looks great, a nice leap for SMF.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Trekkie101 on August 30, 2007, 06:36:12 AM
/me still loves 1.0 most :D
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: searchgr on August 30, 2007, 07:39:05 AM
How did you remove the 'Simple Machines forum' banner that is by default in the right up side of the forums?
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Ben_S on August 30, 2007, 07:47:20 AM
Quote from: Dragooon on August 30, 2007, 03:03:28 AM
Actually Using SMF Beta As for live site is not a genius thing specially if it is huge. One word explains it all and that is "Beta 1" Its not even a "Release Candidate" it is "Beta 1" A simple Beta 1. Expect a lot of bugs as it is the first beta.

Pah, where is the fun in that, I'm planning on upgrading within the next couple of weeks, only reason I haven't done so yet is lack of time.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Dragooon on August 30, 2007, 07:48:20 AM
Quote from: searchgr on August 30, 2007, 07:39:05 AM
How did you remove the 'Simple Machines forum' banner that is by default in the right up side of the forums?
Edit the code my friend ;)

Quote from: Ben_S on August 30, 2007, 07:47:20 AM
Quote from: Dragooon on August 30, 2007, 03:03:28 AM
Actually Using SMF Beta As for live site is not a genius thing specially if it is huge. One word explains it all and that is "Beta 1" Its not even a "Release Candidate" it is "Beta 1" A simple Beta 1. Expect a lot of bugs as it is the first beta.

Pah, where is the fun in that, I'm planning on upgrading within the next couple of weeks, only reason I haven't done so yet is lack of time.

Your wish :)
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: searchgr on August 30, 2007, 07:51:54 AM
QuoteEdit the code my friend

Understood, i have to replace the images/smflogo.gif
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: 青山 素子 on August 30, 2007, 10:59:25 AM
Quote from: Tristan Perry on August 30, 2007, 04:06:41 AM
Whilst I'd agree that there are bugs in SMF 2.0 beta 1, I have to stress that there aren't many bugs - especially in you know what you are doing.

Agreed. Most of the bugs found are cosmetic things or small errors. For a first beta, it is quite good. Do keep in mind that we've been running the development edition on this site for some time in order to make the system as stable as we can. Of course, given the variety of bugs that have been found, it would have been chaotic if this was a general release.


Quote from: Tristan Perry on August 30, 2007, 04:06:41 AM
I run SMF 2.0 on my largest 'live' site and it's going really well. I'm not showing off, although all these posts make it seem like SMF 2.0 is a pretty faulty piece of software - I personally feel it's pretty awesome :P

Oh, it is. The updates to it are going to really help forum admins and mod authors a lot. However, some people feel the need to have 50 mods installed on their forum, and this wouldn't work well for them. You are technically-minded, so that helps you when running your forums. Unfortunately, not everyone is that way.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Something like that on August 30, 2007, 11:37:21 PM
I have a question about the new version, specifically the mail queues. Do the mail queues have rate limiting? My host allows me a maximum of 500 emails per hour with PHP. With 1.1, I cannot do forum announcements, because this limit is exceeded almost immediately with my 18,000+ members. Also, with the mail queues, are the emails prioritized, such that PM notifications would take priority over bulk forum announcements? Thanks!
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Thantos on August 30, 2007, 11:53:11 PM
Yes
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Ashdaw on August 31, 2007, 03:27:43 AM
I wlll just have to wait a little while longer until I can get a charter membership but I am itching to try Verion 2.0, even if it IS in beta. :)

Thanks to all that made this possible. From my limited understanding of php I am sure that this task must have consumed SO many hours and of course, the people that did it are enthusists not paid personel. I will be joining the ranks soon :)
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: searchgr on August 31, 2007, 06:20:58 AM
When i tried to install the smf 1.1.3 through Fantastico i had a problem with the greek characters. The posts that contained greek characters were showing [?????] symbols instead of the characters. Finally i solved the problem by installing the forum maually. I'm afraid if there is any possibilitity when i will upgrade my forum to smf 2.0 to face the same problems.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Daniel15 on August 31, 2007, 06:53:12 AM
QuoteNyah Can you update some other themes? :P
I have about 12 on my list if you dont mind :P :P
Upgrading themes takes a lot of work, so no, I can't :P

To upgrade a theme, what I did was:

This took me a while, but when I did this, the upgrader was not as good as it is now. I believe the upgrader now updates most stuff in the theme, and only minor fixes are needed. :)

QuoteActually Using SMF Beta As for live site is not a genius thing specially if it is huge. One word explains it all and that is "Beta 1" Its not even a "Release Candidate" it is "Beta 1" A simple Beta 1. Expect a lot of bugs as it is the first beta.
I've been running the SMF 2.0 Alpha for a while, and often have to fix things manually. Recently, it decided to make everyone's post counts unusually high for some strange reason :P.
I'm currently running a SMF 2.0 Alpha version from July... I'll be updating to SMF 2.0 Beta 1 soon :)
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Gary on August 31, 2007, 06:58:25 AM
^ Heh. I simply just re-did the whole thing from scratch. :P That way I know it'll work right. But thats not for everybody. ;P

-ALM
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Mick. on August 31, 2007, 09:05:49 PM
Is this compatible with TP 9.8?   Or.....does 2.0 have its own front page?
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Dannii on August 31, 2007, 09:07:01 PM
Neither.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Mick. on August 31, 2007, 09:13:19 PM
Is this installed thru webinstall.php or pacakage manager?
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Dannii on August 31, 2007, 09:26:48 PM
Webinstall.php or the full install package. Either work.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Mick. on August 31, 2007, 09:33:56 PM
Quote from: eldʌkaː on August 31, 2007, 09:26:48 PM
Webinstall.php or the full install package. Either work.

I have brand new test site and it shows file corrupted when installing thru package manager.  I tried webinstall and it wont go. It shows a warning.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: babjusi on August 31, 2007, 09:35:41 PM
Quote from: BlueDevil on August 31, 2007, 09:33:56 PM
Quote from: eldʌkaː on August 31, 2007, 09:26:48 PM
Webinstall.php or the full install package. Either work.

I have brand new test site and it shows file corrupted when installing thru package manager.  I tried webinstall and it wont go. It shows a warning.

You can not install it through the Package Manger, you will have to do it manually if the webinstall won''t work
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Dannii on August 31, 2007, 09:48:33 PM
If you can't use websintall, you use the full install/upgrade package. Download it, decompress and upload all the files through FTP, then run install.php/upgrade.php.

It's been said a trimillion times, you can't use the package manager for large upgrades!
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Mick. on August 31, 2007, 09:51:19 PM
Quote from: eldʌkaː on August 31, 2007, 09:48:33 PM
It's been said a trimillion times, you can't use the package manager for large upgrades!

Take it easy dude!  I havent read smf forum a trimillion times yet. Dont treat me like im 5 yrs old.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Dannii on August 31, 2007, 09:55:39 PM
I answered your question, so why did you try the package manager?
Never mind I suppose what I wrote originally could be misread.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: SleePy on September 01, 2007, 12:16:31 AM
Webinstall doesn't seem to like 2.0. I reported this a while ago but it got lost. Only recently was it brought back up. The devs are looking into the issue but not very hard as it isn't a priority fix.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Ishy87 on September 01, 2007, 01:39:51 AM
Great job, y'all! It looks neat and I can't wait for it to be released!  :D
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Mick. on September 01, 2007, 07:51:55 AM
Quote from: eldʌkaː on August 31, 2007, 09:55:39 PM
I answered your question, so why did you try the package manager?
Never mind I suppose what I wrote originally could be misread.

No biggie.    I unzipped it onto my server and it works.  Pretty neat admin features tho'.

I thought the default theme changed too but no. It still looks the same old theme.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Tristan Perry on September 01, 2007, 08:05:21 AM
Quote from: BlueDevil on September 01, 2007, 07:51:55 AM
I thought the default theme changed too but no. It still looks the same old theme.
Nothing's been decided for sure yet, although there may be a new default theme coming up sometime in SMF 2.0 :)
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Gary on September 01, 2007, 09:39:26 AM
Yeah, remember, that 1.1's default wasn't released until 1.1 RC2. So don't be surprised if 2.0's default (if any) isn't released until around then.

-ALM
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: 觉悟的乌鸦 on September 01, 2007, 09:58:50 AM
wait for long time...

what's time i can seen the chinese rc
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: shadow82x on September 01, 2007, 10:07:16 AM
As said a ton of times the SMF2 theme will not be released until later. It's a beta right now people.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Sordell Media on September 01, 2007, 02:30:33 PM
Quote from: shadow82x on September 01, 2007, 10:07:16 AM
As said a ton of times the SMF2 theme will not be released until later. It's a beta right now people.

You say that as if the masses listen :P Just got to look at how many people ask when it'll be out to see they dont ;)
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Deaks on September 01, 2007, 02:56:25 PM
the short and simple answer is, it will be released when its ready,

As its been pointed out tis is a beta of smf2, 1.1.3 is the current and will be out for a long time yet. 

If people reallly want to see the beta then become charter, you also have to understand thatt he developers havemt even decided if smf2 beta 1 will be public release it may stay for charter members until the rc's or even the stable.  The more people ask when it gonna be released the less likley it will be soon as its putting pressures on the developers.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Gary on September 01, 2007, 04:24:22 PM
Quote from: Sordell Media on September 01, 2007, 02:30:33 PM
You say that as if the masses listen :P Just got to look at how many people ask when it'll be out to see they dont ;)
Maybe we should have it in big off letters on every page of the community forum.

SMF 2.0 WILL BE OUT WHEN IT'S READY!

Hmm... too large? :P

-ALM
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: shadow82x on September 01, 2007, 04:27:46 PM
Quote from: ALM on September 01, 2007, 04:24:22 PM
Quote from: Sordell Media on September 01, 2007, 02:30:33 PM
You say that as if the masses listen :P Just got to look at how many people ask when it'll be out to see they dont ;)
Maybe we should have it in big off letters on every page of the community forum.

SMF 2.0 WILL BE OUT WHEN IT'S READY!

Hmm... too large? :P

-ALM
Maybe a little bigger.... People still never get the point.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Sordell Media on September 01, 2007, 04:33:05 PM
Quote from: shadow82x on September 01, 2007, 04:27:46 PM
Quote from: ALM on September 01, 2007, 04:24:22 PM
Quote from: Sordell Media on September 01, 2007, 02:30:33 PM
You say that as if the masses listen :P Just got to look at how many people ask when it'll be out to see they dont ;)
Maybe we should have it in big off letters on every page of the community forum.

SMF 2.0 WILL BE OUT WHEN IT'S READY!

Hmm... too large? :P

-ALM
Maybe a little bigger.... People still never get the point.

Dont forget the obnoxiously bright fluorescent colours, then they might see it :P
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Peter Duggan on September 01, 2007, 05:29:27 PM
Quote from: sloopz on September 01, 2007, 02:56:25 PM
you also have to understand thatt he developers havemt even decided if smf2 beta 1 will be public release it may stay for charter members until the rc's or even the stable.

Some clarification earlier in this topic:

Quote from: Thantos on August 27, 2007, 07:45:38 PM
Quote from: adicrst on August 27, 2007, 06:28:14 PM
when will it be out for the public ?
Probably not for a good while.  You can count on at least one more charter only beta.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Daniel15 on September 01, 2007, 09:33:05 PM
Quote from: Sordell Media on September 01, 2007, 04:33:05 PM
Quote from: shadow82x on September 01, 2007, 04:27:46 PM
Quote from: ALM on September 01, 2007, 04:24:22 PM
Quote from: Sordell Media on September 01, 2007, 02:30:33 PM
You say that as if the masses listen :P Just got to look at how many people ask when it'll be out to see they dont ;)
Maybe we should have it in big off letters on every page of the community forum.

SMF 2.0 WILL BE OUT WHEN IT'S READY!

Hmm... too large? :P

-ALM
Maybe a little bigger.... People still never get the point.

Dont forget the obnoxiously bright fluorescent colours, then they might see it :P
And blinking!
Large blinking text with bright colours in a marquee should get everyone's attention :D
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: karlbenson on September 01, 2007, 09:46:32 PM
SMF 2.0 WILL BE OUT WHEN IT'S READY!

Dang, only blinking isnt supported :P
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Coldfx on September 01, 2007, 09:50:46 PM
Quote from: karlbenson on September 01, 2007, 09:46:32 PM
SMF 2.0 WILL BE OUT WHEN IT'S READY!

Aw, beat me to the punch.  I was just about to make my own gradient-type "SMF 2.0 will be out when it's ready" message :(




SMF 2.0 WILL BE OUT  WHEN IT'S  READY!


Next contest: Who can make the best "SMF 2.0 WILL BE OUT WHEN IT'S READY" banner.   :P
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: karlbenson on September 01, 2007, 09:51:38 PM
Good job you quoted me before my edit ;)
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: shadow82x on September 01, 2007, 10:03:00 PM
Quote from: karlbenson on September 01, 2007, 09:46:32 PM
SMF 2.0 WILL BE OUT WHEN IT'S READY!

Dang, only blinking isnt supported :P
Looks nice I will have to use that post for future posts!
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Dannii on September 01, 2007, 11:01:27 PM
<blink>!

Oh wait... that would be a downgrade from what we have now, and if you're going to make a new theme it needs to be an upgrade :P
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: SleePy on September 02, 2007, 12:56:13 AM
Thats still to small, I can't read that  >:(

SMF

heehe, SMF limits you to the double digits :P
I didn't put the full thing for a reason, btw.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: karlbenson on September 02, 2007, 01:09:48 AM
How good is SMF2.0


this much
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: shadow82x on September 02, 2007, 01:10:52 AM
Man this topic got spammy now. :P

Now lets just hope everyone reads this topic and does not ask that again. ;)
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Dragooon on September 02, 2007, 01:11:26 AM
Yeah right
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Dannii on September 02, 2007, 01:12:30 AM
SMF

(oops!)
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: codenaught on September 02, 2007, 01:12:49 AM
It's starting to look like a children's playground over here. :P

Edit: DANG eldacar. :-\
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: shadow82x on September 02, 2007, 01:14:11 AM
Nice eldʌkaː. akabugeyes wants to kill the fun. :( Be that way.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: karlbenson on September 02, 2007, 01:15:23 AM
Nope

(http://www.carlowcountymuseum.com/carlow-town/town-park/images/play-area.jpg)

Now it looks like a childrens playground ;)
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Dragooon on September 02, 2007, 01:15:34 AM
Quote from: eldʌkaː on September 02, 2007, 01:12:30 AM
SMF

(oops!)

Hey Keep the size in control. My eyes were almost blown.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: shadow82x on September 02, 2007, 01:18:08 AM
Quote from: karlbenson on September 02, 2007, 01:15:23 AM
Nope

(http://www.carlowcountymuseum.com/carlow-town/town-park/images/play-area.jpg)

Now it looks like a childrens playground ;)
That swing looks fine! No really this topic is out of control. (Waits for Thantos to lock it)
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Dannii on September 02, 2007, 01:30:20 AM
That was in control! I was tempted to go 9 times larger!
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Dragooon on September 02, 2007, 01:41:32 AM
Saw what????!
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: shadow82x on September 02, 2007, 01:42:33 AM
Quote from: Dragooon on September 02, 2007, 01:41:32 AM
Saw what????!
OK Dragooon your getting a little carried away do you guys even remember the topic title. :P

Topic: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: marshall_pham on September 02, 2007, 03:26:37 AM
i like
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: barath56 on September 02, 2007, 09:05:50 AM
Is the cron feature added too ??
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Dragooon on September 02, 2007, 09:50:51 AM
What you mean by "Cron Feature"?
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Coldfx on September 02, 2007, 10:28:28 AM
Quote from: Dragooon on September 02, 2007, 09:50:51 AM
What you mean by "Cron Feature"?

I think he was confused and thought SMF was capable of adding cron jobs.

So no, barath: you cannot create cronjobs using MySQL/PHP alone.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Aaron on September 02, 2007, 10:57:52 AM
Scheduled Tasks (http://www.simplemachines.org/smf/SMF20/SMF20_3.png), you mean? ;)
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Coldfx on September 02, 2007, 12:10:25 PM
Quote from: Aäron on September 02, 2007, 10:57:52 AM
Scheduled Tasks (http://www.simplemachines.org/smf/SMF20/SMF20_3.png), you mean? ;)

Oh wow, guess I was wrong :P
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Reclaimer on September 02, 2007, 12:55:54 PM
Quote from: Grudge on August 24, 2007, 11:34:35 AM
  • Automatic installation of packages into themes other than just the default.
  • Email templates to simplify customization of forum emails.
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  • User warning system.
  • Advanced signature settings to allow the administrator of a forum to more tightly control the contents of users signatures.
oha DROOOOL GIMME GIMME GIMME. What, NOOO £25 ARG. (waiting patiently for public release).
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Sverre on September 02, 2007, 02:49:13 PM
Congratulations to the developers and the SMF Team on reaching a new milestone with the project! And also to the Charter Members who get to test it early :P

Quote from: Grudge on August 24, 2007, 11:34:35 AM
File based caching for a performance increase on all forums regardless of whether an accelerator is installed.

How's the performance of this compared to no caching or standalone accelerators such as eAccelerator and APC? Also, does it increase performance if you already have another accelerator running?

Quote from: Grudge on August 24, 2007, 11:34:35 AM
User configurable posts and topics per page

Is this an on-off setting in the Admin CP, or can you enable it within a range, for example 10-50 topics per page?
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: shadow82x on September 02, 2007, 02:53:05 PM
QuoteIs this an on-off setting in the Admin CP, or can you enable it within a range, for example 10-50 topics per page?
Not at the time you can disable/enable this feature though.

Quote
How's the performance of this compared to no caching or standalone accelerators such as eAccelerator and APC? Also, does it increase performance if you already have another accelerator running?
Never tested it with 2 accelerators but with none its a bit faster than SMF1.1.3 even with all the new features.
Title: Re: SMF 2.0 Beta 1 Released to Charter Members
Post by: Sverre on September 02, 2007, 03:04:37 PM
Quote from: shadow82x on September 02, 2007, 02:53:05 PM
QuoteIs this an on-off setting in the Admin CP, or can you enable it within a range, for example 10-50 topics per page?
Not at the time you can disable/enable this feature though.

Hopefully, that will change in the future. It's a nice little feature, but I don't think I would enable it on my own forum without the possibility of setting a roof on the values the users can choose from...