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Title: Re: 2.0 Update Part 3
Post by: MkC on November 01, 2007, 09:43:18 AM
Hello,

During my tests to adapt my mods in smf 2.0 I discovered the following function:

Quote
function db_insert($method = 'replace', $table, $columns, $data, $keys, $file = false, $line = false, $disable_trans = false, $connection = null)
{
   global $smfFunc;

   if (empty($data))
      return;

   if (!is_array($data[array_rand($data)]))
      $data = array($data);

   $queryTitle = $method == 'replace' ? 'REPLACE' : ($method == 'ignore' ? 'INSERT IGNORE' : 'INSERT');

   foreach ($data as $key => $entry)
      $data[$key] = '(' . implode(', ', $entry) . ')';

   $smfFunc['db_query']('', "
      $queryTitle INTO $table
         (" . implode(', ', $columns) . ")
      VALUES
         " . implode(', ', $data), $file, $line, $connection);
}

Correct version:
Quote
function db_insert($method = 'replace', $table, $columns, $data, $file = false, $line = false, $connection = null)
{
   global $smfFunc;

   if (empty($data) || empty($columns))
      return;

   if (!is_array($data[array_rand($data)]))
      $data = array($data);

   $queryTitle = $method == 'replace' ? 'REPLACE' : ($method == 'ignore' ? 'INSERT IGNORE' : 'INSERT');

   foreach ($data as $key => $entry)
      $data[$key] = '(' . implode(', ', $entry) . ')';

   $smfFunc['db_query']('', "
      $queryTitle INTO $table
         (" . implode(', ', $columns) . ")
      VALUES
         " . implode(', ', $data), $file, $line, $connection);
}

This function it is ended or in the course of developpement?

Greetings
Title: Re: 2.0 Update Part 3
Post by: JayBachatero on November 01, 2007, 11:06:20 AM
Ok my question to you is this.  Who did you get 2.0?  You're not a Chater Member and you're definately not a beta tester.
Title: Re: 2.0 Update Part 3
Post by: ALEJO on November 01, 2007, 12:50:55 PM
omg ! i see a black flag with a skull in it! xD
Title: Re: 2.0 Update Part 3
Post by: MkC on November 01, 2007, 02:03:00 PM
Quote from: JayBachatero on November 01, 2007, 11:06:20 AM
Ok my question to you is this.  Who did you get 2.0?  You're not a Chater Member and you're definately not a beta tester.
Oh my god whom one hang me high and short.
But what makes the police, fast I am testing the version 2.0, which we put me in prison....
It is cool, no panic I have never diffused a version Beta....
Just like that in the functions database for why package them not to have prevu the insert function?



Oh mon dieu que l'on pende haut et court
Mais que fait la police, vite je teste la version 2.0, que l'on me jette en prison.....
C'est cool, pas de panique, je n'ai jamais diffusé une version beta
Je voulais juste savoir pourquoi dans les fonctions associées au package il n'etait pas prevu l'insert.
Title: Re: 2.0 Update Part 3
Post by: metallica48423 on November 01, 2007, 02:18:43 PM
Well, considering that you're using an illegal version of SMF 2.0, either obtained from a charter member who leaked, or using a leaked copy from the internet, do realize that you will receive no support for it, as 2.0 support is limited to active charter members and beta testers in a specific 2.0 support board.  The notable exception would be if you coadmin a board with a charter member -- but even then they must field all support requests.
Title: Re: 2.0 Update Part 3
Post by: Oldiesmann on November 01, 2007, 02:27:14 PM
SMF 2.0 is currently only available for Charter Members - you are not, nor have you ever been, a Charter Member, and therefore should not have access to the code. Please explain to us how you got access to it.
Title: Re: 2.0 Update Part 3
Post by: ALEJO on November 01, 2007, 02:54:49 PM
Quote from: Oldiesmann on November 01, 2007, 02:27:14 PM
SMF 2.0 is currently only available for Charter Members - you are not, nor have you ever been, a Charter Member, and therefore should not have access to the code. Please explain to us how you got access to it.
u can get a vbulletin forum for "free"... so i dont think thats too hard to get a beta of smf...
Title: Re: 2.0 Update Part 3
Post by: metallica48423 on November 01, 2007, 02:57:35 PM
please do not condone the use of piracy here.. it will only lead to fighting and such.  Thanks

Title: Re: 2.0 Update Part 3
Post by: MkC on November 01, 2007, 03:16:07 PM
QuoteWell, considering that you're using an illegal version of SMF 2.0
Quoteplease do not condone the use of piracy here..

When we do not know we do not accuse....

I have legally all the beta since the branch 1.1, downloaded here even.

Furthermore when we do not respect licenses (joomla for example) we come not to qualify the others of pirates....

I allowed to indicate a correction, by using my pseudo own, the question was only there because I was surprised to see something so badly written. It has been quite a while since I need no more support of the team smf....

Greetings



Quand on ne sait pas on n'accuse pas

J'ai acquis légalement les versions bétas depuis le début de la branche 1.1, en les téléchargeant ici.

De plus quand on ne respect pas les licenses (joomla par exemple), on ne qualifie pas les autres de pirates....

Je me suis permis d'indiquer une correction en utilisant mon propre pseudo, la question était là uniquement parce que j'ai été surpris de voir cette fonction aussi mal ecrite. Il y a bien longtemps que je n'ai plus besoin du support de la team smf..
Title: Re: Re: 2.0 Update Part 3
Post by: Douglas on November 01, 2007, 03:25:51 PM
Quote from: MkC on November 01, 2007, 03:16:07 PMWhen we do not know we do not accuse....

I have legally all the beta since the branch 1.1, downloaded here even.

Furthermore when we do not respect licenses (joomla for example) we come not to qualify the others of pirates....

I allowed to indicate a correction, by using my pseudo own, the question was only there because I was surprised to see something so badly written. It has been quite a while since I need no more support of the team smf....
Either furnish proof that you are AUTHORIZED to have a copy of SMF 2.0 to any project manager, or expect to continue receiving this treatment.  It's that simple.

And if you don't, I'm quite sure that you'd be served with a DMCA, much like vBulletin does when they find unauthorized copies of their software.

Ignorance is not bliss, nor is it an excuse for stupidity.
Title: Re: 2.0 Update Part 3
Post by: Kindred on November 01, 2007, 03:28:28 PM
Quote from: Oldiesmann on November 01, 2007, 02:27:14 PM
you are not, nor have you ever been, a Charter Member, and therefore should not have access to the code. Please explain to us how you got access to it.

From your awkward grammatical construction, I will assume that English is not your primary language.

Please explain where you got the copy of SMF 2.0? You say that you downloaded it from here, but, since you are not a charter member, this is not probable.... At least not with the account you are currently using to post.
Title: Re: 2.0 Update Part 3
Post by: MkC on November 01, 2007, 03:38:34 PM
You get tired not you will have no name of the member charter (those this are prevenus moreover). Thanks to each of your interventions, maintaining we know what it costs to help in the improvement of the product.
Beautiful spirit...  :D

For Douglas: everybody is not dishonest as you....

Greetings



N'espérer pas que je donne le nom du charter membre ( ceux ci sont prevenus).
Merci à tous pour vos interventions, maintenant on sait ce qu'il en coûte de vouloir aider à l'amélioration du produit.
Bel esprit....
Pour Douglas: tout le monde n'est pas malhonnête comme vous....
Title: Re: Re: 2.0 Update Part 3
Post by: Oldiesmann on November 01, 2007, 10:34:42 PM
Quote from: ALEJO on November 01, 2007, 02:54:49 PM
Quote from: Oldiesmann on November 01, 2007, 02:27:14 PM
SMF 2.0 is currently only available for Charter Members - you are not, nor have you ever been, a Charter Member, and therefore should not have access to the code. Please explain to us how you got access to it.
u can get a vbulletin forum for "free"... so i dont think thats too hard to get a beta of smf...

That doesn't mean it's legal. We have a right to enforce our rules. If you started using a pirated copy of vBulletin and wanted to get support for it, I'm sure you'd run into the same treatment (if they didn't get you in a lot more trouble).

Quote from: MkC on November 01, 2007, 03:38:34 PM
You get tired not you will have no name of the member charter (those this are prevenus moreover). Thanks to each of your interventions, maintaining we know what it costs to help in the improvement of the product.
Beautiful spirit...  :D

For Douglas: everybody is not dishonest as you....

Greetings



N'espérer pas que je donne le nom du charter membre ( ceux ci sont prevenus).
Merci à tous pour vos interventions, maintenant on sait ce qu'il en coûte de vouloir aider à l'amélioration du produit.
Bel esprit....
Pour Douglas: tout le monde n'est pas malhonnête comme vous....

Douglas is not dishonest. You, on the other hand, are.

There is no way you could have download SMF 2.0 from this site.
Title: Re: Re: 2.0 Update Part 3
Post by: babjusi on November 01, 2007, 11:04:39 PM
@MkC, I want you to do something, only for a little while.

Imagine that you are creating something, anything at all. You work extremly hard at it, maybe spend nights without sleep at all or very little sleep. Then you spend more time trying to perfection it by fixing all the bugs that the beta tester that try your product first, report to you.
Then your product, which is not ready yet for public release, that you have spent so many time, hard work and sweat, it gets stolen and ilegally gets spread over the net, wouldn''t you want to know who did it and how so you can put a stop to it to protect your hard work?

So please, contact the project managers and tell them about it, how did you get hold of it.
These guys work wonders at creating such an amazing software, or a kick ass software like Douglas would say, and they give it way to everyone for free, when it is worth quite some money. So let us try and help out these guys in every way we can by putting an end to this stealing of these guys hard work.

I hope that you will do the right thing
All the best
Babjusi
Title: Re: 2.0 Update Part 3
Post by: MkC on November 02, 2007, 05:28:25 AM
@Oldiesman: sorry to disappoint you but I downloaded my version here even, thus you teach me that the download here even is illegal.....
If I do not make a mistake, Oldiesman, it is you who forbid other modeurs to distribute a product already existing under license GPL to be to redistribute again. A reference in honesty.....
@babjusi: I downloaded all my versions here even, and I diffuse nothing, I indicated simply that functions are badly written....
To contact the project managers, Olidesman answers generally that by threats of lock of Web site, maintaining thanks to you each knows that you should not help you....


@Oldiesman: Désolé de vous décevoir mais j'ai telechargé ma version ici même, donc vous m'apprenez que le téléchargement ici même est illégal.....
Si je ne me trompe pas, Oldiesman, c'est vous qui interdisez à d'autres developpeurs de distribuer un produit déjà existant  sous license GPL d'être redistribuer à nouveau. Une référence en matière d'honnêteté.....
@babjusi: J'ai téléchargé toutes mes versions ici même, et je ne diffuse rien, j'indiquais simplement que des fonctions sont mal écrites....
Pour ce qui est de contacter les chefs de projets, Olidesman ne répond en général que par des menaces de fermeture de site web, maintenant grâce à vous chacun sait qu'il ne faut pas vous aider....
Title: Re: Re: 2.0 Update Part 3
Post by: Dragooon on November 02, 2007, 05:37:33 AM
I am finding no way to download SMF 2.0 Beta 1 From THIS site, And I am with OM, He is right, you are not authorized to use that copy neither you will get support for it.
Title: Re: Re: 2.0 Update Part 3
Post by: MkC on November 02, 2007, 05:55:52 AM
Quote from: Dragooon on November 02, 2007, 05:37:33 AM
I am finding no way to download SMF 2.0 Beta 1 From THIS site, And I am with OM, He is right, you are not authorized to use that copy neither you will get support for it.
it's hoax? : http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=190812.0
Tourist....  8)



S'agit il d'un Hoax: http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=190812.0
Touriste....  8)
Title: Re: Re: 2.0 Update Part 3
Post by: Dragooon on November 02, 2007, 05:57:14 AM
Quote from: MkC on November 02, 2007, 05:55:52 AM
Quote from: Dragooon on November 02, 2007, 05:37:33 AM
I am finding no way to download SMF 2.0 Beta 1 From THIS site, And I am with OM, He is right, you are not authorized to use that copy neither you will get support for it.
it's hoax? : http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=190812.0
Tourist....  8)
What does that topic have to do with this? I meant, There is no way for YOU to download SMF 2.0.
Title: Re: Re: 2.0 Update Part 3
Post by: MkC on November 02, 2007, 05:59:37 AM
Quote from: Dragooon on November 02, 2007, 05:57:14 AM
What does that topic have to do with this? I meant, There is no way for YOU to download SMF 2.0.

QuoteSimple Machines are proud to annouce that today, 25th August 2007, the first beta release of SMF 2.0 is in the hands of our Charter Members.

Misleading advertising?
It is better and better....

Instead of you occupy affairs of the others and with selling what you do not master to try of you occupy of your site, your members will there be very happy:
(http://www.zimagez.com/miniature/dragooon.jpg) (http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/dragooon.php)



Publicité mensongère?
C'est de mieux en mieux....

Au lieu de vous occupez des affaires des autres et de vendre ce que vous ne maitrisez pas essayer de vous occupez de votre site, vos membres en seront très heureux:
(http://www.zimagez.com/miniature/dragooon.jpg) (http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/dragooon.php)
Title: Re: 2.0 Update Part 3
Post by: Paracelsus on November 02, 2007, 09:49:53 AM
You're just being rude... there's no need for that, is it? You're acting like a kid!
Title: Re: 2.0 Update Part 3
Post by: Kindred on November 02, 2007, 09:55:35 AM
MkC...

Yes, SMF 2.0 beta has been released to charter members. Since *YOU* are not a charter member, there is no way for *YOU* to have (legally) downloaded the version.

Once more, I will ask you: Please explain where you got the copy of SMF 2.0 beta.

oh.. and one further note: SMF is not and has never been released under the GPL.
Title: Re: Re: 2.0 Update Part 3
Post by: Dragooon on November 02, 2007, 10:03:46 AM
Quote from: MkC on November 02, 2007, 05:59:37 AM
Quote from: Dragooon on November 02, 2007, 05:57:14 AM
What does that topic have to do with this? I meant, There is no way for YOU to download SMF 2.0.

QuoteSimple Machines are proud to annouce that today, 25th August 2007, the first beta release of SMF 2.0 is in the hands of our Charter Members.

Misleading advertising?
It is better and better....

Instead of you occupy affairs of the others and with selling what you do not master to try of you occupy of your site, your members will there be very happy:
(http://www.zimagez.com/miniature/dragooon.jpg) (http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/dragooon.php)



Publicité mensongère?
C'est de mieux en mieux....

Au lieu de vous occupez des affaires des autres et de vendre ce que vous ne maitrisez pas essayer de vous occupez de votre site, vos membres en seront très heureux:
(http://www.zimagez.com/miniature/dragooon.jpg) (http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/dragooon.php)

1 That is NO SMF. It is Media Wiki.
2 I was shifting my Database and that caused that, You don't need to be a stupid child.
Title: Re: 2.0 Update Part 3
Post by: MkC on November 02, 2007, 12:13:27 PM
Alors dans l'ordre:
@Paracelsus: Ce n'est pas moi qui traite les autres de pirates... Sachant qu'à la base j'indique une correction d'un script, les insultes et menaces provenants uniquement du staff smf. Je suppose que vous aussi vous êtes de la famille de dragooon vu le niveau de la réponse....

@Kindred: J'ai acces à des comptes charter membre au cas ou vous ne l'auriez pas compris (pathétique, franchement à la hauteur de votre réputation...), puisque vous n'êtes pas capable de faire le support correctement, forcément il faut bien que quelqu'un le fasse....
Je sais que smf n'est pas GPL, par contre certains mods ici sont sous license GPL, donc dommage pour vous, la prochaine fois merci de vous renseigner avant d'intervenir....

@Dragooon: Quand on prétend savoir faire du support et que l'on se permet de critiquer une personne, on ferait mieux d'abord de regarder chez soi. Au faite toucher à une base de données en pleine journée, ça fait vraiment gamin comme tu le dis..... Retourne donc à tes légos.


Au final, on ne sait pas si cette fonction ecrite avec les pieds sera corrigée, par contre visiblement le staff smf ne sait pas comment marche son site web et n'en connait même pas le contenu.......
Je vois tout de même qu'à moi tout seul j'ai monopolisé beaucoup de monde du staff, pourtant quand un charter membre français demande du support il lui faudra attendre des mois pour une réponse, il est bizarre votre fonctionnement ici....

PS: je ne traduis pas vu que dans la section de téléchargement nos contributions sont refusées à cause de la langue française et puis votre équipe française pourra le faire mieux que moi  :D....
Title: Re: 2.0 Update Part 3
Post by: Kindred on November 02, 2007, 12:24:38 PM
MkC....

Sorry, any mods that include SMF code can not be GPL. Mod that include SMF code are covered under the SMF license, and therefore, if someone is distributing them as GPL, they are incorrect.

So, from your statement, I am to understand that 1) you have several charter members who feel that you provide them support and 2) these charter members have given you access to the 2.0 beta.
Which leads us back to the original statement of the support team:
We will not provide support on 2.0 to anyone except the charter members who legally have copies of it. Since YOU are not the charter member, perhaps you can ask the charter member who provided you with the copy to submit his questions/support request from his chartered account.

You sir, are (as has been stated) just plain rude.
Title: Re: 2.0 Update Part 3
Post by: MkC on November 02, 2007, 02:37:20 PM
@Kindred: Heu je ne savais pas que AJAX était la propriété de smf, merci de m'informer.
Et je suppose que la fonction echo ou encore array, die, foreach, if etc...... appartiennent toutes à SMF, mon dieu c'est qu'ils nous feraient presque peur....
Heureusement que SMF est arrivé parce que avant 2004 on ecrivait pas de PHP et pas de SQL......
Mais si, mais si, on peut écrire du GPL que ce soit pour les thèmes ou les mods :D
La license GPL ne couvrant pas les fonctions (encore faut il prouver que le code de la fonction ne provient d'aucun dérivé existant en ligne) propriétaire de SMF mais le reste du code oui.
C'est comme si SMF indiquait être propriétaire de toutes les images existant dans les themes, alors que la plupart son issue de theme existant déjà ailleurs, c'est à pleurer de rire.....

Bon puisque visiblement vous ne savez pas lire, je n'ai pas demandé de support, j'indique une correction!!, c'est vous qui m'agressez pour votre histoire de téléchargement......

Après on dit que je suis malhônnete et que je fais dans l'illégal, vous êtes pas fière de l'image que vous venez de donner de vous même...... Un grand merci à l'équipe pour sa participation  :D

PS: je ne traduis pas vu que dans la section de téléchargement nos contributions sont refusées à cause de la langue française et puis votre équipe française pourra le faire mieux que moi
Title: Re: 2.0 Update Part 3
Post by: Tibou on November 02, 2007, 04:42:34 PM
1/ Et si Mkc avait un ami qui soit lui Charter Member. Est-ce interdit ?
2/ Et si cet ami lui avait demandé de lui adapter un mod sur sa propre V2.0. Est-ce interdit ?
3/ Et si ce faisant, Mkc avait trouvé un bug. Est-ce interdit ?
4/ Et si simplment Mkc vous l'avait signalé dans le but de vous aider dans votre travail ? Est-ce interdit ?
5/ Et si vous lui aviez simplement dit "merci"? Non, cela doit être interdit.
6/ Excusez moi d'avoir poster ici, c'est peut-être interdit.
7/ Mon forum qui était sous SMF sera bientôt sous FireBoard, Liberté quant tu nous tiens...
8/ Comme Mkc, je traduis pas, par principe je me l'interdis.
Title: Re: 2.0 Update Part 3
Post by: MkC on November 02, 2007, 05:16:23 PM
ça y es, il t'on relaché  :D
Title: Re: 2.0 Update Part 3
Post by: Paracelsus on November 02, 2007, 05:49:21 PM
And if, and if, and if...

And if the intention was righteous and honorable, then MkC would have been transparent from the beginning, telling from whom he got 2.0 without trying to hide it.

Trying to hide the whole story just makes him look guilty.
Title: Re: Re: 2.0 Update Part 3
Post by: Douglas on November 02, 2007, 05:59:38 PM
Quote from: MkCFor Douglas: everybody is not dishonest as you....

Pour Douglas: tout le monde n'est pas malhonnête comme vous....

I have *yet* to respond to his personal attack upon my character and integrity, for good reason.  He's doing a good enough job of idiocracy on his own without me even acknowledging his pediantic diatribe.

Edit to add in his comments, in case he chickens out and removes it.
Title: Re: 2.0 Update Part 3
Post by: Kindred on November 02, 2007, 06:16:49 PM
And he still doesn't answer... writing some cockamamee thing about php and ajax licenses...

And I certainly don't understand his comments about remote loading or his idiotic insistence on French. Sorry, Dude, English is the international language... with Japanese and German close behind. French doesn't even rate on the scale of language for business.
Title: Re: 2.0 Update Part 3
Post by: MkC on November 02, 2007, 06:39:23 PM
@Paracelsus: ça n'a jamais été mon intention:
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=203612.msg1294415#msg1294415
QuoteN'espérer pas que je donne le nom du charter membre ( ceux ci sont prevenus).
Je ne suis pas responsable si vous ne savez pas lire.... Et je l'ai traduit en plus.....

@Douglas: Pouet et prout  :D (vous comprenez?)

@Kinder: Visiblement vous n'êtes pas si fort que ça puisque l'utilisation d'un traducteur en ligne depasse vos com-pétences

Mouaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa :D
Bon j'ai eu ma dose d'insulte, moi le dénigrement sur la langue et la discrimination sur l'appartenance ethnique me font trop penser au fascisme et je n'aime pas alimenter un débat dans ce sens......

Tchao



@Paracelsus: That was never my intention:
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=203612.msg1294415#msg1294415
QuoteYou get tired not you will have no name of the member charter (those this are prevenus moreover).
I am not responsible if you do not know how to read.... And I translated it in more.....

@Douglas: Pouet et prout  :D (You understand?)

@Kinder: Apparently you are not so hardly as that because the use of an on-line translator exceeds your skills

Check I had my dose of insult, I the belittlement on the language and the discrimination on the ethnic membership too much remind me in fascism and I do not like feeding a debate in this sense ......

Tchao
Title: Re: Re: 2.0 Update Part 3
Post by: Douglas on November 02, 2007, 08:57:58 PM
Quote from: Tibou1/ Et si Mkc avait un ami qui soit lui Charter Member. Est-ce interdit ?
Absolument
Quote2/ Et si cet ami lui avait demandé de lui adapter un mod sur sa propre V2.0. Est-ce interdit ?
Oui.
Quote3/ Et si ce faisant, Mkc avait trouvé un bug. Est-ce interdit ?
Oui.Oui.
Quote4/ Et si simplment Mkc vous l'avait signalé dans le but de vous aider dans votre travail ? Est-ce interdit ?
Oui.
Quote5/ Et si vous lui aviez simplement dit "merci"? Non, cela doit être interdit.
Does not apply.
Quote6/ Excusez moi d'avoir poster ici, c'est peut-être interdit.
Does not apply.
Quote7/ Mon forum qui était sous SMF sera bientôt sous FireBoard, Liberté quant tu nous tiens...
Au revoir.  Adios, Sayanara.  Bye.
Quote8/ Comme Mkc, je traduis pas, par principe je me l'interdis.
You aren't a charter member, either, ergo, this does not apply to you.  Run over to FireBoard.  You obviously lack the integrity to utilize SMF.

Quote from: ParacelsusAnd if the intention was righteous and honorable, then MkC would have been transparent from the beginning, telling from whom he got 2.0 without trying to hide it.  Trying to hide the whole story just makes him look guilty.
Merci Beaucoup!

@MkC:  Je suis désolé que vous estimiez que c'était un essai de la diffamation ethnique. Je vous assure ce n'était pas. Vos accusations sans base et ont continué des insultes de notre intelligence, aussi bien que votre indifférence totale et manque de respect pour SMF officiel staffers sont ce qui vous a apporté à ce point. Je me soucie honnêtement pas si vous êtes le français, l'Indien, German, le néerlandais, grec, latin, anglais, russe, et cetera. Le pur fait que vous avez affiché la stupidité absolue est ce qui me dégoûte. Arrière, crétin.