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Title: Upgrade from YaBB SE to SMF?
Post by: stevej on August 03, 2003, 12:39:59 PM
Is there going to be an upgrade deal available?  Or if I move from YaBB SE to SMF will I have to get all of my users to re-register and lose all of my existing posts?

Just wondering if I'm going to bite this bullet or not.

http://www.woopig.net/php
Title: Re:Upgrade from YaBB SE to SMF?
Post by: Joel on August 03, 2003, 12:51:12 PM
They already have a working YSE->SMF converter, and there will be converters for those moving from a number of other forum packages as well. No bullet biting necessary. :)
Title: Re:Upgrade from YaBB SE to SMF?
Post by: stevej on August 03, 2003, 12:54:51 PM
Fantastic...

Was worried about how my 1900 users would feel about it.  I told them when I moved to Yabb Gold from UBB two years ago that I wouldn't make them re-register any more.

Plus there's great stuff (as far as my board goes) in the 147,000 posts that are there.

This board is super fast, so I look forward to doing the move when everything is all worked out.
Title: Re:Upgrade from YaBB SE to SMF?
Post by: Jeff Lewis on August 03, 2003, 01:09:40 PM
Just as Joel said, we have a working converter already and wouldn't expect people to have to struggle with an upgrade ;)
Title: Re:Upgrade from YaBB SE to SMF?
Post by: Zas on August 03, 2003, 05:07:55 PM
So where is it?
Title: Re:Upgrade from YaBB SE to SMF?
Post by: Grudge on August 03, 2003, 05:10:05 PM
Quote from: Zas on August 03, 2003, 05:07:55 PM
So where is it?

As SMF isn't out yet I wouldn't imagine we'll see it until it is ;)
Title: Re:Upgrade from YaBB SE to SMF?
Post by: BiErLeEuW on August 03, 2003, 05:13:55 PM
Title: Re:Upgrade from YaBB SE to SMF?
Post by: Jeff Lewis on August 03, 2003, 05:29:31 PM
It's not out yet, SMF is still being created!
Title: Re:Upgrade from YaBB SE to SMF?
Post by: BiErLeEuW on August 03, 2003, 05:38:02 PM
ok,... i didn't think we talk about the same ;) But what i wanna say is that i hope the database will be smaller with the upgrade and that he will remove the ******** of the mods of YaBBse!
Title: Re:Upgrade from YaBB SE to SMF?
Post by: Joshua Dickerson on August 03, 2003, 06:14:10 PM
Quote from: BiErLeEuW on August 03, 2003, 05:38:02 PM
ok,... i didn't think we talk about the same ;) But what i wanna say is that i hope the database will be smaller with the upgrade and that he will remove the ******** of the mods of YaBBse!
The upgrade script really won't know what is "******" and what isn't. It will only convert the stuff of the standard install though. So no additional columns created by mods or any scripts or anyhting of that sort will be converted.
Title: Re:Upgrade from YaBB SE to SMF?
Post by: Overseer on August 03, 2003, 06:21:52 PM
^ so it'd basically clean the ****** out right?
Title: Re:Upgrade from YaBB SE to SMF?
Post by: Joshua Dickerson on August 03, 2003, 06:24:12 PM
What ****** are you talking about and I can tell ya ;)
Title: Re:Upgrade from YaBB SE to SMF?
Post by: [Unknown] on August 03, 2003, 08:09:59 PM
No, it doesn't remove columns.  I plan on making a SMF -> SMF converter that will do that.

-[Unknown]
Title: Re:Upgrade from YaBB SE to SMF?
Post by: BiErLeEuW on August 04, 2003, 05:08:06 AM
thanx unknown! That's what i am waiting for :)
Title: Re:Upgrade from YaBB SE to SMF?
Post by: Seph|roth on August 18, 2003, 10:17:07 AM
Quote from: [Unknown] on August 03, 2003, 08:09:59 PM
No, it doesn't remove columns.  I plan on making a SMF -> SMF converter that will do that.

-[Unknown]
That makes sense .. an "SMF" to "SMF" converter  ;D :P
Title: Re:Upgrade from YaBB SE to SMF?
Post by: Flavius on August 19, 2003, 06:18:14 PM
Until SMF is ready, we will be moving to a new domain, server, databases etc...
So I will install a fresh SMF on the new site. Is there any way to import the users and messages from my yabbse board which is on the old site?   Thanks.
Title: Re:Upgrade from YaBB SE to SMF?
Post by: Seph|roth on August 19, 2003, 06:26:26 PM
Quote from: bostasp on August 19, 2003, 06:23:49 PM
I'm basically doing the same thing, well, basically

I'm moving my database over with the old forum, locking some of the boards im going to archive, etc.

What I suggest doing, is moving it all over, upgrade to SMF, so that the database has been upgraded to work with SMF, then if you want a nice clean new install, backup your database (with dump tables and the sort) install your new SMF forum (to the same details as your old forum, same database etc...) and then restore the database.

Slightly messy, and theres probably an easier way, but that's how I would do it.
I doubt that will work... from what i've heard, the whole databese structure has been changed, so restoring your old YSE database over your new SMF one will not work..
Title: Re:Upgrade from YaBB SE to SMF?
Post by: Seph|roth on August 19, 2003, 07:11:28 PM
ah yes sorry, i misunderstood that part..  ;)

and yes, they've already got a working YSE => SMF converter  8)
Title: Re:Upgrade from YaBB SE to SMF?
Post by: Flavius on August 20, 2003, 02:58:22 AM
Thank you, it sounds reasonable.  So lets see...I install yabbse on the new site, import the database, upgrade to SMF, install a new SMF and import ? :)  Means that a certain point two forums will share one database, is that ok.  And later I will have to delete the old tables and so on... :)
Title: Re:Upgrade from YaBB SE to SMF?
Post by: [Unknown] on August 20, 2003, 03:17:39 AM
Quote from: Flavius on August 20, 2003, 02:58:22 AM
Thank you, it sounds reasonable.  So lets see...I install yabbse on the new site, import the database, upgrade to SMF, install a new SMF and import ? :)  Means that a certain point two forums will share one database, is that ok.  And later I will have to delete the old tables and so on... :)

Actually, the upgrade script has a backup feature (creates new tables and all.)  so I don't see what the fuss is about.

-[Unknown]
Title: Re:Upgrade from YaBB SE to SMF?
Post by: Seph|roth on August 20, 2003, 05:10:01 AM
you see? just trust the dev's, they know what they're doing (i hope ;))..

just run the script and voila...!
Title: Re:Upgrade from YaBB SE to SMF?
Post by: Overseer on August 20, 2003, 07:11:21 AM
time for an FAQ? :)
Title: Re:Upgrade from YaBB SE to SMF?
Post by: Seph|roth on August 20, 2003, 07:21:05 AM
yes indeed... so far it seems eveything can be done through the theme sys :P
Title: Re:Upgrade from YaBB SE to SMF?
Post by: Overseer on August 20, 2003, 07:29:41 AM
maybe a preliminary version in the support section thats linked? in these places?
Title: Re:Upgrade from YaBB SE to SMF?
Post by: ian on September 06, 2003, 03:56:03 AM
I was wondering, will it be possible to convert all the members/messages/etc directly from YaBB 1 Gold to SMF?

If not, I guess at least a YaBB Gold -> YaBBSE -> SMF path will be possible?

Cheers.
Title: Re:Upgrade from YaBB SE to SMF?
Post by: Peter Duggan on September 06, 2003, 08:00:09 AM
Quote from: ian on September 06, 2003, 03:56:03 AM
I was wondering, will it be possible to convert all the members/messages/etc directly from YaBB 1 Gold to SMF?

Not at the moment:

http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?threadid=433 (http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?threadid=433)

QuoteIf not, I guess at least a YaBB Gold -> YaBBSE -> SMF path will be possible?

Of course! :)
Title: Re:Upgrade from YaBB SE to SMF?
Post by: Thanatos on September 15, 2003, 07:30:28 PM
hi,

I am currently using YaBB SE 1.54 and plan to convert to SMF when it becomes available.  I currently have sub-boards on my YaBB SE forum.    Are my sub-boards going to get converted ok to SMF, or am I going to lose them in the conversion?

Also, does anyone have any idea when SMF will be made available to the general public for download?

thanks.
Title: Re:Upgrade from YaBB SE to SMF?
Post by: Owdy on September 16, 2003, 01:25:15 AM
Quote from: Thanatos on September 15, 2003, 07:30:28 PM
Also, does anyone have any idea when SMF will be made available to the general public for download?

http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?threadid=105/120
Title: Re:Upgrade from YaBB SE to SMF?
Post by: PSF Hosting on September 16, 2003, 01:34:21 AM
Hi,

I'm running yaBB SM at SE 1.5.4,
and I want to know, If I upgrade to SMF, What will happen to SM? (SuperMod)
Because I think that the upgrade will be for the standard SE version, but now with SM installed...
I got 44 tables for yaBB now  :-\

So, is SM supported in a upgrade?
Title: Re:Upgrade from YaBB SE to SMF?
Post by: Metho on September 16, 2003, 02:18:28 AM
No, all mods, whether from Supermod or individual, will be dropped out. HOWEVER, a lot of what SuperMod has is already included in SMF. As for old mods that were not included, the old mod authors will have to convert them to work with SMF or give permission to someone else so it may be ported.

Methonis
Title: Re:Upgrade from YaBB SE to SMF?
Post by: bafflednewbie on September 19, 2003, 06:12:04 AM
Quote
I doubt that will work... from what i've heard, the whole databese structure has been changed, so restoring your old YSE database over your new SMF one will not work..

Can you point me anywhere which describes, or gives intentions of the back-end changes, as I have used YabbSE as the back-end user storage for things.. and need to know just how compatible my existing code will be with the new database structure?
Title: Re:Upgrade from YaBB SE to SMF?
Post by: Douglas on September 19, 2003, 06:53:05 PM
Currently, none is available for Non Charter Members, though Charter Members have been able to preview the upcoming changes.
Title: Re:Upgrade from YaBB SE to SMF?
Post by: bafflednewbie on September 21, 2003, 05:29:34 PM
Okey dokey, shall have too see when it becomes available to the great unwashed then  :)
Title: Re:Upgrade from YaBB SE to SMF?
Post by: James Woodcock on October 12, 2003, 05:19:38 AM
If you are really interested on seeing the BETA1, just look for all the Charter members on this forum and visit their site, chances are there is a link to the forum :)

Give you some idea of any changes for actual members and how it runs.
Title: Re: Upgrade from YaBB SE to SMF?
Post by: DickBarton on December 29, 2003, 08:19:31 AM
So any ideas on when SMF will be available and when the convertor will be available and how it will work? i.e. will it use the same database or will I need to create a new database to run SMF? I'm assuming SMF will be free - am I right?

Sorry all completely off-topic but the convertor question prompted me to think...
Title: Re: Upgrade from YaBB SE to SMF?
Post by: Peter Duggan on December 29, 2003, 08:40:27 AM
Quote from: DickBarton on December 29, 2003, 08:19:31 AM
So any ideas on when SMF will be available and when the convertor will be available and how it will work? i.e. will it use the same database or will I need to create a new database to run SMF? I'm assuming SMF will be free - am I right?

Knowing that you've already found the answers at yabbse.org, but answering here for the sake of completeness:

1. It's available in beta now to Charter Members and should be available 'soon' as a public beta (note the word 'beta')!
2. The YaBB SE converter comes as part of the package and updates the same database.
3. Yes, it will be free!

Title: Re: Upgrade from YaBB SE to SMF?
Post by: DickBarton on December 29, 2003, 09:06:25 AM
Superb, thanks very much for the info.

Richard.