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Title: changelog change
Post by: Thantos on January 04, 2008, 03:36:40 PM
After a discussion with the developers we've decided to no longer include the changelog in the packages.  The file is currently half a meg and will only continue to grow.  We suspect that the majority of our users don't read the changelog and we'd like to save them the effort of uploading it to their server if they can't upload the entire package.

Now we know some of you do like to read the changelog and the changelog is still important to us so we'll be making it available as a seperate download.

This change will happen in all future packages but previous packages will not be modified.
Title: Re: changelog change
Post by: metallica48423 on January 04, 2008, 04:02:58 PM
perhaps as a page on the site might be a way to handle it best?  I dunno

But that sounds like a good idea, i never realized it was so large (i am used to reading the changelog from SVN, though, to be perfectly fair)
Title: Re: changelog change
Post by: Tony Reid on January 04, 2008, 04:06:01 PM
I was actually thinking about this yesterday when I downloaded 2.0

Title: Re: changelog change
Post by: SleePy on January 04, 2008, 05:55:06 PM
I never upload the changelog. I only upload index.php, SSI.php, Sources and Themes/default.

I am glad for the change though, its a waste of space that very few people even read.
Title: Re: changelog change
Post by: Thantos on January 04, 2008, 08:31:48 PM
Just incase it wasn't clear enough:  the changelog will be available as a link from the download page.
Title: Re: changelog change
Post by: karlbenson on January 04, 2008, 08:41:15 PM
Yeah I can't see a reason to include it in the zip file.

Is it linked in the admin area?  That would suffice.
Title: Re: changelog change
Post by: Thantos on January 04, 2008, 08:46:14 PM
No need to link it in the admin area IMO.
Title: Re: changelog change
Post by: Gary on January 04, 2008, 08:52:17 PM
I've always liked the idea of the changelog being in the zip. But I don't object to having it as a separate thing either. I can always look at SVN. :P
Title: Re: changelog change
Post by: christicehurst on January 04, 2008, 11:51:55 PM
I think this is a good idea. A download at the web site would be best.
Title: Re: changelog change
Post by: shadow82x on January 05, 2008, 01:31:42 PM
Quote from: christicehurst on January 04, 2008, 11:51:55 PM
I think this is a good idea. A download at the web site would be best.
Yeah smart idea too.
Title: Re: changelog change
Post by: Sverre on January 08, 2008, 07:03:46 AM
Although I've greatly enjoyed following the development through changelogs from beta/CVS releases I don't have access to, I think this is a very wise move. Now you just need to drop some of those old themes from the package as well ;) Only the previous default theme is needed to create continuity between new and old, and I'm sure no one would complain if the Babylon and Classic YaBB SE themes were available on the Theme Site instead of coming shipped with the installation package...
Title: Re: changelog change
Post by: [SiNaN] on January 08, 2008, 08:21:02 AM
Good idea. Me too, didn't realize that it occupies that much space.
Title: Re: changelog change
Post by: karlbenson on January 08, 2008, 10:42:45 AM
Yeah I wouldn't mind Classic theme being killed off.

No offense to the author, but compared to todays quality themes, it looks like a Baboons ass.
Title: Re: changelog change
Post by: Ben_S on January 08, 2008, 04:04:29 PM
Personally I prefair classic over the rest, my own theme is based off it in fact.
Title: Re: changelog change
Post by: Gary on January 08, 2008, 04:28:09 PM
Quote from: Sverre on January 08, 2008, 07:03:46 AM
Although I've greatly enjoyed following the development through changelogs from beta/CVS releases I don't have access to, I think this is a very wise move. Now you just need to drop some of those old themes from the package as well ;) Only the previous default theme is needed to create continuity between new and old, and I'm sure no one would complain if the Babylon and Classic YaBB SE themes were available on the Theme Site instead of coming shipped with the installation package...

That has been up for discussion before. And it's something I'd support.
Title: Re: changelog change
Post by: Papa on January 10, 2008, 02:04:55 AM
Quote from: Gazmanafc on January 08, 2008, 04:28:09 PM
Quote from: Sverre on January 08, 2008, 07:03:46 AM
Although I've greatly enjoyed following the development through changelogs from beta/CVS releases I don't have access to, I think this is a very wise move. Now you just need to drop some of those old themes from the package as well ;) Only the previous default theme is needed to create continuity between new and old, and I'm sure no one would complain if the Babylon and Classic YaBB SE themes were available on the Theme Site instead of coming shipped with the installation package...

That has been up for discussion before. And it's something I'd support.

I have to agree here. I think having the default come with it and then the others as themes for download would be great.
Title: Re: changelog change
Post by: Tony Reid on January 10, 2008, 03:15:52 AM
Quote from: Ben_S on January 08, 2008, 04:04:29 PM
Personally I prefer classic over the rest, my own theme is based off it in fact.

Same here.