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Otsikko: Copyright visibility
Kirjoitti: ryanhellyer - huhtikuu 28, 2008, 07:42:41 AP
Hi,
I was questioned today by a former member of the SMF staff about my forums copyright notice. They claimed that I didn't have one!? I did, it was just slightly obscured as it was originally coded for a white background and when I changed to a tinted background it made the copyright notice slightly (but not much) more difficult to see. Unfortunately my MSN conversation with the person got cut off so I wasn't able to figure out if they were even looking the correct site or not.

I immediately changed the colouring to a slightly (but not much) darker colouring, which I was planning to do anyway as I didn't like it the way it was.

Anyhows ... can some of you take a look at my forum (still under construction) and let me know if the copyright notice is prominent enough? I assumed it would be, but then I assumed it was okay before, so I thought I'd better check before upsetting the SMF community.

http://pixopoint.com/forum/index.php


thanks :)
Otsikko: Re: Copyright visibility
Kirjoitti: perplexed - huhtikuu 28, 2008, 08:32:15 AP
I wouldnt say that was 'prominent' at all lol.  It's really is too small to read if that's what you mean
Otsikko: Re: Copyright visibility
Kirjoitti: Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen - huhtikuu 28, 2008, 08:50:16 AP
That's just damn near impossible to read. :D
Otsikko: Re: Copyright visibility
Kirjoitti: Dragooon - huhtikuu 28, 2008, 08:58:35 AP
I don't think so you are even allowed to make the copyright "hard" to see. But how did you made it hard to see anyway?
Otsikko: Re: Copyright visibility
Kirjoitti: ryanhellyer - huhtikuu 28, 2008, 08:59:35 AP
Ah, LOL, I've figured it out!

I Firefox set to a minimum font size, so the font appears as I intended it to. ie: the same size as here on simplemachines.org, but in IE7 and probably other browsers, it's nearly impossible to see.

I was truly baffled by why this person was so concerned at my copyright notice. It all makes sense now!

Thanks for taking a look for me :)
Otsikko: Re: Copyright visibility
Kirjoitti: ryanhellyer - huhtikuu 28, 2008, 09:01:57 AP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: Dragooon - huhtikuu 28, 2008, 08:58:35 AP
I don't think so you are even allowed to make the copyright "hard" to see. But how did you made it hard to see anyway?

You can get rid of it entirely with CSS, but you shouldn't as it's nice to promote SMF as much as possible - plus it's against the SMF copyright rules. By controlling the CSS, you can manipulate it to look however you want, change font size, colour etc.
Otsikko: Re: Copyright visibility
Kirjoitti: perplexed - huhtikuu 28, 2008, 09:06:44 AP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: ryanhellyer - huhtikuu 28, 2008, 08:59:35 AP
Ah, LOL, I've figured it out!

I Firefox set to a minimum font size, so the font appears as I intended it to. ie: the same size as here on simplemachines.org, but in IE7 and probably other browsers, it's nearly impossible to see.

I was truly baffled by why this person was so concerned at my copyright notice. It all makes sense now!

Thanks for taking a look for me :)

I'm using Firefox and I can't read it at all
Otsikko: Re: Copyright visibility
Kirjoitti: Dragooon - huhtikuu 28, 2008, 09:07:10 AP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: quiteperplexed - huhtikuu 28, 2008, 09:06:44 AP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: ryanhellyer - huhtikuu 28, 2008, 08:59:35 AP
Ah, LOL, I've figured it out!

I Firefox set to a minimum font size, so the font appears as I intended it to. ie: the same size as here on simplemachines.org, but in IE7 and probably other browsers, it's nearly impossible to see.

I was truly baffled by why this person was so concerned at my copyright notice. It all makes sense now!

Thanks for taking a look for me :)

I'm using Firefox and I can't read it at all
Yeah same here.
Otsikko: Re: Copyright visibility
Kirjoitti: Eliana Tamerin - huhtikuu 28, 2008, 09:10:54 AP
Anybody got a magnifying glass? It takes blowing up the page about 300x to make the copyright the correct size.
Otsikko: Re: Copyright visibility
Kirjoitti: ryanhellyer - huhtikuu 28, 2008, 09:11:04 AP
I have a specific setting in Firefox which limits the font size from dropping below a certain size. Can't remember how I set that, and am guessing it's not a common setting then.
Otsikko: Re: Copyright visibility
Kirjoitti: ryanhellyer - huhtikuu 28, 2008, 09:20:09 AP
It should now look the same to the rest of you as it did all along for me ... http://pixopoint.com/forum/index.php

I also noticed that the site is totally munted in IE7, so I'd better fix that up before it goes live!

Thanks for taking a look everyone :) I couldn't figure out what the problem was for the life of me until quiteperplexed mentioned the size problem.

Otsikko: Re: Copyright visibility
Kirjoitti: Eliana Tamerin - huhtikuu 28, 2008, 09:20:55 AP
That's way better.
/me puts away the magnifying glass.
Otsikko: Re: Copyright visibility
Kirjoitti: ryanhellyer - huhtikuu 28, 2008, 09:28:07 AP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: Eliana Tamerin - huhtikuu 28, 2008, 09:20:55 AP
That's way better.
/me puts away the magnifying glass.

Glad to hear it's looking proper for you now :)

I try to promote SMF as much as possible, so was a tad perturbed when questioned about my copyright notice being missing.

I do wish the copyright notice wasn't worded the way it is though. I'd prefer to display the message across my entire site rather than just the forum. But the way it is worded would make my site look like it is copyright to SMF which is obviously not the case and SMF isn't powering the whole thing, WordPress is powering it as well, so I'd need the SMF copyright, plus WordPress thrown in there too which would make my footer look ugly - too many long winded copyright notices.

Otsikko: Re: Copyright visibility
Kirjoitti: Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen - huhtikuu 28, 2008, 09:56:13 AP
Yeah, now it looks better here as well. :)
Otsikko: Re: Copyright visibility
Kirjoitti: perplexed - huhtikuu 28, 2008, 10:12:54 AP
much much better
Otsikko: Re: Copyright visibility
Kirjoitti: 青山 素子 - huhtikuu 28, 2008, 11:55:22 AP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: ryanhellyer - huhtikuu 28, 2008, 09:28:07 AP
I do wish the copyright notice wasn't worded the way it is though. I'd prefer to display the message across my entire site rather than just the forum.

You could try adding "Forums" right before the copyright call like:

"Forums ", site_copyright
Otsikko: Re: Copyright visibility
Kirjoitti: metallica48423 - huhtikuu 28, 2008, 01:57:27 IP
I must ask, who contacted you?

If you could PM me, i'd appreciate it :)
Otsikko: Re: Copyright visibility
Kirjoitti: ryanhellyer - huhtikuu 29, 2008, 03:55:47 AP
Lainaus käyttäjältä: metallica48423 - huhtikuu 28, 2008, 01:57:27 IP
I must ask, who contacted you?

If you could PM me, i'd appreciate it :)

PM'ing now.
Otsikko: Re: Copyright visibility
Kirjoitti: Tony Reid - huhtikuu 29, 2008, 04:10:00 AP
I'd just like to say that I like your theme... it breaks from the norm of what we see these days :)
Otsikko: Re: Copyright visibility
Kirjoitti: metallica48423 - huhtikuu 29, 2008, 04:16:18 AP
I have to agree, i like how it looks as well :)
Otsikko: Re: Copyright visibility
Kirjoitti: ryanhellyer - huhtikuu 29, 2008, 08:11:14 AP
Thanks for the kind words :)

Recoding the tag soup from the default theme has been a nightmare, but I'm slowly getting there. I'll post it in the showcase board with some info. about how and why I did a bunch of things to the forum once it's done.