Title: A Status Update
Post by: David on October 26, 2003, 03:24:13 PM
Post by: David on October 26, 2003, 03:24:13 PM
Well another day and more progress made. It really is too bad that all of you cannot yet share in the result of all of the work that has been put into SMF up to now. The Charter Members have been providing great feedback as well as helping us knock out some bugs and improve a variety of features. It is currently looking like there will be one or two more betas only released to Charter Members before the public beta. In this time however we still have a lot to do. Some things on our todo list are a revamp (yet again) of the admin center to make it even easier to use, cleaning up even more of the HTML (did you know SMF currently runs even on Internet Explorer 4), as well as add comments to the template system to make it even easier to use.
The template system is a very powerful tool that may look overwhelming at first but if I may quote someone who has used it, "I would like to say that I'm absolutely thrilled with the new templating system. Perhaps it is a bit overwhelming for some, but I find it a hundred times easier than the systems used by other forum packages. And it's more powerful as well." We are working hard to develop a usable web interface to the template editor much like some other forum packages offer. We would obviously like some feedback into what sort of editor all of you would like to see. Unknown has also already written and it will be included in the distribution a template converter so that your old template.php file from YaBB SE will work with SMF.
As a picture is worth a thousand words I will just conclude this with a variety of screenshots in the next few posts. Thanks again for all of your support and we understand this seems like a long transition period but it will be worth it in the long run. :D
The template system is a very powerful tool that may look overwhelming at first but if I may quote someone who has used it, "I would like to say that I'm absolutely thrilled with the new templating system. Perhaps it is a bit overwhelming for some, but I find it a hundred times easier than the systems used by other forum packages. And it's more powerful as well." We are working hard to develop a usable web interface to the template editor much like some other forum packages offer. We would obviously like some feedback into what sort of editor all of you would like to see. Unknown has also already written and it will be included in the distribution a template converter so that your old template.php file from YaBB SE will work with SMF.
As a picture is worth a thousand words I will just conclude this with a variety of screenshots in the next few posts. Thanks again for all of your support and we understand this seems like a long transition period but it will be worth it in the long run. :D
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: David on October 26, 2003, 03:25:00 PM
Post by: David on October 26, 2003, 03:25:00 PM
The ability to create avatar groups has now been added, each folder in your avatar folder creates a group.
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: David on October 26, 2003, 03:25:46 PM
Post by: David on October 26, 2003, 03:25:46 PM
As many have requested, a member can now belong to multiple membergroups now.
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: David on October 26, 2003, 03:26:43 PM
Post by: David on October 26, 2003, 03:26:43 PM
The private message system is currently being revamped to allow for folders, message limits, and many other new features. It is still under development and thus we do not guarentee the end result to look like this preview.
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: David on October 26, 2003, 03:27:29 PM
Post by: David on October 26, 2003, 03:27:29 PM
New settings and functions have been added to the admin center to help with the maintenance of your forum.
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: David on October 26, 2003, 03:28:49 PM
Post by: David on October 26, 2003, 03:28:49 PM
A few glimpses into the permissions system, both by board and by membergroup.
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: David on October 26, 2003, 03:29:11 PM
Post by: David on October 26, 2003, 03:29:11 PM
A few glimpses into the permissions system, both by board and by membergroup.
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: David on October 26, 2003, 03:29:38 PM
Post by: David on October 26, 2003, 03:29:38 PM
A few glimpses into the permissions system, both by board and by membergroup.
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: Tom on October 26, 2003, 03:44:14 PM
Post by: Tom on October 26, 2003, 03:44:14 PM
Thanks for the pics!!! :D
Just one question. I loved how yaBB SE have a neat, clean, layout for all of the admin options. Now with all of the new options that are being added, will it still be neat and as easy to use?
Just one question. I loved how yaBB SE have a neat, clean, layout for all of the admin options. Now with all of the new options that are being added, will it still be neat and as easy to use?
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: David on October 26, 2003, 03:53:25 PM
Post by: David on October 26, 2003, 03:53:25 PM
Quote from: Tom on October 26, 2003, 03:44:14 PMThe admin center is being revamped but what is not seen in these screenshots is the left hand navigation bar like on the profile screen.
Just one question. I loved how yaBB SE have a neat, clean, layout for all of the admin options. Now with all of the new options that are being added, will it still be neat and as easy to use?
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: morph on October 26, 2003, 03:56:52 PM
Post by: morph on October 26, 2003, 03:56:52 PM
Thanks, David. I am now able to see how the final product will come out. Can't wait!
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: bostasp on October 26, 2003, 04:04:22 PM
Post by: bostasp on October 26, 2003, 04:04:22 PM
You'll have to purchase a Mac to get the full glory of those screenshots in you're own admin centre... Something I've been considering myself :)
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: Tyris on October 26, 2003, 08:34:57 PM
Post by: Tyris on October 26, 2003, 08:34:57 PM
I got an OSX theme for styleXP on my main PC... and it makes things look pretty similar to that ;D
hmmm, this is all looking great!!! and its still not finished ^_^
I cant wait!!
hmmm, this is all looking great!!! and its still not finished ^_^
I cant wait!!
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: Zef Hemel on October 27, 2003, 03:09:42 AM
Post by: Zef Hemel on October 27, 2003, 03:09:42 AM
Amazing.
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: Cimme on October 27, 2003, 05:54:33 AM
Post by: Cimme on October 27, 2003, 05:54:33 AM
hm, I can't wait, i'll purchase a license! :) I WANT IT!!!
let's see what the publice RC will look like! :)
let's see what the publice RC will look like! :)
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: bostasp on October 27, 2003, 06:49:42 AM
Post by: bostasp on October 27, 2003, 06:49:42 AM
...you don't have to purchase a license. It's FREE!
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: [Unknown] on October 27, 2003, 08:47:19 AM
Post by: [Unknown] on October 27, 2003, 08:47:19 AM
Some more shots for those weirdos who crave them....
-[Unknown]
-[Unknown]
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: Tom on October 27, 2003, 03:00:26 PM
Post by: Tom on October 27, 2003, 03:00:26 PM
Looks great! Thank you. :D
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: Tyris on October 27, 2003, 06:21:51 PM
Post by: Tyris on October 27, 2003, 06:21:51 PM
*waves hand* I'm a craving wierdo!!!!
*drools*
Thanks :)
*drools*
Thanks :)
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: eFishie on October 27, 2003, 08:21:34 PM
Post by: eFishie on October 27, 2003, 08:21:34 PM
SCHWEET! Looks nice, guys!
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: Tyris on October 27, 2003, 08:29:53 PM
Post by: Tyris on October 27, 2003, 08:29:53 PM
aaa, about time you returned ;) I swear I havnt seen you in a while...
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: eFishie on October 27, 2003, 08:33:48 PM
Post by: eFishie on October 27, 2003, 08:33:48 PM
Yeah, I've been busy over at BroadCarPark.com. You should check it out.
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: Cccddd on October 28, 2003, 01:25:09 AM
Post by: Cccddd on October 28, 2003, 01:25:09 AM
I get nothin. perhaps thats why all your imgs are X's too?
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crap forgot to comment on the board... I must say that just with the little bit I have seen, all of the issues I had with yabbse are fixed. It's wonderful to see that you guys have really set the two apart, and have not just done a makeover to yabbse and called it something else. I know its all different on the inside (even tho I don't have the charter moonay to REALLY see). I'm just looking forward to the hacking that will come in the future. Out of all of the boards that I have modified, YabbSE was by far the easiest and cleanest and most uniform code to edit. VB was clean but soooo overly complicated. I cant tell if they do that just to make it hard for ppl to mod, or if they really can't find more efficient ways of doing things... but I digress. Anyways thx god you guys revamped the themes. The old ones were nifty and all, but user selectable themes will come in handy...
[edit]
crap forgot to comment on the board... I must say that just with the little bit I have seen, all of the issues I had with yabbse are fixed. It's wonderful to see that you guys have really set the two apart, and have not just done a makeover to yabbse and called it something else. I know its all different on the inside (even tho I don't have the charter moonay to REALLY see). I'm just looking forward to the hacking that will come in the future. Out of all of the boards that I have modified, YabbSE was by far the easiest and cleanest and most uniform code to edit. VB was clean but soooo overly complicated. I cant tell if they do that just to make it hard for ppl to mod, or if they really can't find more efficient ways of doing things... but I digress. Anyways thx god you guys revamped the themes. The old ones were nifty and all, but user selectable themes will come in handy...
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: [Unknown] on October 28, 2003, 01:28:08 AM
Post by: [Unknown] on October 28, 2003, 01:28:08 AM
Perhaps the Yahoo! Browser doesn't like attachments? (no, don't bother looking around, I know because your browser told me.)
Please try clicking (and saving) this:
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2414;id=271
Also try:
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2414;id=271;image
And this may even work for you, who knows:
If not, I'll see what I can do to remedy the issue.
(for the record, I have Yahoo! service and it works for me... and you're relatively close to me judging by your IP.)
-[Unknown]
Please try clicking (and saving) this:
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2414;id=271
Also try:
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2414;id=271;image
And this may even work for you, who knows:
If not, I'll see what I can do to remedy the issue.
(for the record, I have Yahoo! service and it works for me... and you're relatively close to me judging by your IP.)
-[Unknown]
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: [Unknown] on October 28, 2003, 01:32:28 AM
Post by: [Unknown] on October 28, 2003, 01:32:28 AM
Quote from: Cheschire on October 28, 2003, 01:25:09 AM
crap forgot to comment on the board... I must say that just with the little bit I have seen, all of the issues I had with yabbse are fixed. It's wonderful to see that you guys have really set the two apart, and have not just done a makeover to yabbse and called it something else. I know its all different on the inside (even tho I don't have the charter moonay to REALLY see). I'm just looking forward to the hacking that will come in the future. Out of all of the boards that I have modified, YabbSE was by far the easiest and cleanest and most uniform code to edit. VB was clean but soooo overly complicated. I cant tell if they do that just to make it hard for ppl to mod, or if they really can't find more efficient ways of doing things... but I digress. Anyways thx god you guys revamped the themes. The old ones were nifty and all, but user selectable themes will come in handy...
First, thanks. I and the other members have certainly tried our best.
If you thought YaBB SE's code was easy reading or uniform.... pff... you may have trouble distinguishing SMF from a book ;). (everything conforms more strictly to the coding standards now...) And... uhh... I may have to wonder if you are actually sane if you thought vB's code was AT ALL CLEAN. It's HORRIBLE :P :P!!!
And don't worry, the old theme is still there ;).
-[Unknown]
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: Cccddd on October 28, 2003, 01:33:10 AM
Post by: Cccddd on October 28, 2003, 01:33:10 AM
um, I was talking to php Piranha regarding broadcarpark.com... all the attachments from the posts here work fine. just the site he was talking about doesnt work, and all the images in his post are X's...
thx tho (and im using IE6 actually)
thx tho (and im using IE6 actually)
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: Cccddd on October 28, 2003, 01:34:52 AM
Post by: Cccddd on October 28, 2003, 01:34:52 AM
Quote from: [Unknown] on October 28, 2003, 01:32:28 AM
And... uhh... I may have to wonder if you are actually sane if you thought vB's code was AT ALL CLEAN. It's HORRIBLE :P :P!!!
-[Unknown]
haha... well i went from UBB to VB before finding YaBB then YaBBSE... so you see the progression. VB is like... looking at a car out of a carwash as opposed to ubb being a jeep that just went mudding.
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: [Unknown] on October 28, 2003, 01:35:49 AM
Post by: [Unknown] on October 28, 2003, 01:35:49 AM
Your user agent string explains otherwise.... but okay. (it says "sbcydsl 3.12; YComp 5.0.0.0;" which basically means you're using the yahoo browser and yahoo bar...)
-[Unknown]
-[Unknown]
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: Cccddd on October 28, 2003, 01:39:20 AM
Post by: Cccddd on October 28, 2003, 01:39:20 AM
yeah like 3 months ago I installed the DSL software and it installed a ton of crap before I had a chance to tell it not to. I uninstalled that tho. I will have to go hack some reg to change that back to normal. >:E
[edit]
btw im talkin to a friend about splittin the charter cost with me. I wanna start hackin and crackin at this now. mebbe have a chance to help with the dev and fixin of the board. i'm working on developing a full scale web based game that i got about halfway done with before you guys stopped work on yabbse. now its on hold while you guys work on SMF. my main concern is security so i will be trying very hard to break that when i get ahold of the beta :)
now to just convince my friend to get me money... damn the army and their desire to pay me less than minimum wage :/
[edit]
btw im talkin to a friend about splittin the charter cost with me. I wanna start hackin and crackin at this now. mebbe have a chance to help with the dev and fixin of the board. i'm working on developing a full scale web based game that i got about halfway done with before you guys stopped work on yabbse. now its on hold while you guys work on SMF. my main concern is security so i will be trying very hard to break that when i get ahold of the beta :)
now to just convince my friend to get me money... damn the army and their desire to pay me less than minimum wage :/
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: Tyris on October 28, 2003, 02:17:43 AM
Post by: Tyris on October 28, 2003, 02:17:43 AM
heheh, go YaBBSE for being easily readable/modable...
I basically LEARNT my entire (well... my first year of knowledge) knowledge of php just from reading the YaBBSE code... it was just really easy to understand...
If SMF is half as easy to read I'll be happy :)
heheh, in all seriousness, if I didn't download and install YaBBSE a year or however long ago... I never woulda learnt php.
So thanks!! to all pervious, current and future members of the YaBBSE team!!!
especially to [Unknown]... coz you just seem to do everything perfectly when it comes to php.
Again: congrats on some AWESOME software!!
(small question... was vBull always php...? I swear I remember thinking otherwise...)
I basically LEARNT my entire (well... my first year of knowledge) knowledge of php just from reading the YaBBSE code... it was just really easy to understand...
If SMF is half as easy to read I'll be happy :)
heheh, in all seriousness, if I didn't download and install YaBBSE a year or however long ago... I never woulda learnt php.
So thanks!! to all pervious, current and future members of the YaBBSE team!!!
especially to [Unknown]... coz you just seem to do everything perfectly when it comes to php.
Again: congrats on some AWESOME software!!
(small question... was vBull always php...? I swear I remember thinking otherwise...)
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: eFishie on October 28, 2003, 08:39:48 AM
Post by: eFishie on October 28, 2003, 08:39:48 AM
Sorry, make that site www.broadiecarpark.com.
And my images are not working because of something that possible Aquilo did!
And my images are not working because of something that possible Aquilo did!
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: Oldiesmann on October 29, 2003, 05:33:45 PM
Post by: Oldiesmann on October 29, 2003, 05:33:45 PM
I really wanna see these pics, but they're all showing up as x's and when I save them and open them in Windows Picture and Fax Viewer (default picture viewer), I see "no preview available". :'(
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: Jeff Lewis on October 29, 2003, 05:39:27 PM
Post by: Jeff Lewis on October 29, 2003, 05:39:27 PM
Yeah they have bad headers when saving them....
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: Cimme on October 29, 2003, 05:50:54 PM
Post by: Cimme on October 29, 2003, 05:50:54 PM
did you remove the pictures??? I can't see them anymore! (and dl isn't possible anymore)
Cimme
Cimme
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: eFishie on October 29, 2003, 06:05:07 PM
Post by: eFishie on October 29, 2003, 06:05:07 PM
What pictures? My avatar and sig? They weren't deleted, my host (Aquilo) is moving to another provider.
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: Cimme on October 29, 2003, 06:07:59 PM
Post by: Cimme on October 29, 2003, 06:07:59 PM
the pictures of the NEW SMF (previews)
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: [Unknown] on October 29, 2003, 09:31:17 PM
Post by: [Unknown] on October 29, 2003, 09:31:17 PM
Quote from: Cimme on October 29, 2003, 06:07:59 PM
the pictures of the NEW SMF (previews)
Fixed, my apologies. I accidently put a space outside the <?php ?> tags in one of the included files.... :-[.
-[Unknown]
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: Oldiesmann on October 30, 2003, 10:43:33 AM
Post by: Oldiesmann on October 30, 2003, 10:43:33 AM
Looks awesome guys! How about a few shots of the "advanced" permissions stuff?
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: David on October 30, 2003, 12:11:36 PM
Post by: David on October 30, 2003, 12:11:36 PM
Quote from: Oldiesmann on October 30, 2003, 10:43:33 AMThe screens are still being developed and are continuing to change, as well as some of the shots do not make a lot of sense on their own but require you to follow the path to get to them for it to be relevant, if that makes any sense at all.
Looks awesome guys! How about a few shots of the "advanced" permissions stuff?
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: madfiddler on October 30, 2003, 08:45:31 PM
Post by: madfiddler on October 30, 2003, 08:45:31 PM
Looks great so far peeps.
Not planning to upgrade just yet. There are several features of supermod which I don't want to loose, like chat, the member map, but once the mods are created, I look forward totrying it out.
Not planning to upgrade just yet. There are several features of supermod which I don't want to loose, like chat, the member map, but once the mods are created, I look forward totrying it out.
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: Joel on October 31, 2003, 11:39:10 AM
Post by: Joel on October 31, 2003, 11:39:10 AM
Honestly, guys, it's not hype when I say that the templates are far better than any other forum templating system I've used. A little PHP knowledge helps a lot when working with the templates in their current compiled state, but it will get easier. Also, you really only have to work with one file if you only want to make a YSE-like template modification, but the power is there to do a lot more.
I've changed almost everything except for the admin center, since lots of things are still being added/changed in that area. I've gotten rid of a lot of nested tables, font tags, etc. as well as tons of other little changes I made to fit the way I want my forum to look and run. The templating system makes it a lot easier to totally change the look of your forum without screwing up the way it works.
I've changed almost everything except for the admin center, since lots of things are still being added/changed in that area. I've gotten rid of a lot of nested tables, font tags, etc. as well as tons of other little changes I made to fit the way I want my forum to look and run. The templating system makes it a lot easier to totally change the look of your forum without screwing up the way it works.
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: Yngwiedis on October 31, 2003, 05:06:52 PM
Post by: Yngwiedis on October 31, 2003, 05:06:52 PM
This screenshots are GREAT. I can wait for the public version :)
I am also happy that [Unknown] add the function for multiple avatars folders because is based on my idea :)
I am very happy for this even if i dont get any credit :D
I am also happy that [Unknown] add the function for multiple avatars folders because is based on my idea :)
I am very happy for this even if i dont get any credit :D
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: [Unknown] on October 31, 2003, 07:27:01 PM
Post by: [Unknown] on October 31, 2003, 07:27:01 PM
Quote from: Yngwiedis on October 31, 2003, 05:06:52 PM
This screenshots are GREAT. I can wait for the public version :)
I am also happy that [Unknown] add the function for multiple avatars folders because is based on my idea :)
I am very happy for this even if i dont get any credit :D
Compuart added that feature, actually....
-[Unknown]
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: Cccddd on October 31, 2003, 10:47:11 PM
Post by: Cccddd on October 31, 2003, 10:47:11 PM
Just paid for charter. Can't wait to start goin at it >:E
I was only mildly looking forward to the beta (cuz of bugs) but you hype too damn well [Unk]
I was only mildly looking forward to the beta (cuz of bugs) but you hype too damn well [Unk]
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: Tyris on October 31, 2003, 10:50:04 PM
Post by: Tyris on October 31, 2003, 10:50:04 PM
heheh... Unk... *giggle* heeehee ;D
I've been looking forward to it since the announcement that SMF existed... just wish I could afford that price :'( (that being said I just ordered Star Wars Rogue Squadron 3 from the states... meh :P)
Well it'll be worth it when its released :)
I've been looking forward to it since the announcement that SMF existed... just wish I could afford that price :'( (that being said I just ordered Star Wars Rogue Squadron 3 from the states... meh :P)
Well it'll be worth it when its released :)
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: Cccddd on November 01, 2003, 06:59:21 PM
Post by: Cccddd on November 01, 2003, 06:59:21 PM
Just barely started my code hackin. the menu thing is a lot harder to hack now. Can't just throw in more links, you have to edit something else that I haven't found yet.
Anyways check out nrrds.com (http://nrrds.com). The news on the front page is loaded from 4 different forums. Eventually I will take the collapsing effect and add it to threads on that page so that users will be able to select what forums they want displayed as collapsed when they first see the page. Also, I need to figure out a good way to do topic icons to get that slashdot post effect.
Anyways check out nrrds.com (http://nrrds.com). The news on the front page is loaded from 4 different forums. Eventually I will take the collapsing effect and add it to threads on that page so that users will be able to select what forums they want displayed as collapsed when they first see the page. Also, I need to figure out a good way to do topic icons to get that slashdot post effect.
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: [Unknown] on November 01, 2003, 07:00:24 PM
Post by: [Unknown] on November 01, 2003, 07:00:24 PM
Actually, it's not really harder, it just isn't where you expect it to be.
I'm going to change that anyway...
-[Unknown]
I'm going to change that anyway...
-[Unknown]
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: Cccddd on November 01, 2003, 09:53:20 PM
Post by: Cccddd on November 01, 2003, 09:53:20 PM
well sure it's easy when you already know where it's at ;p
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: Yngwiedis on November 01, 2003, 11:50:23 PM
Post by: Yngwiedis on November 01, 2003, 11:50:23 PM
Quote from: [Unknown] on October 31, 2003, 07:27:01 PMQuote from: Yngwiedis on October 31, 2003, 05:06:52 PM
This screenshots are GREAT. I can wait for the public version :)
I am also happy that [Unknown] add the function for multiple avatars folders because is based on my idea :)
I am very happy for this even if i dont get any credit :D
Compuart added that feature, actually....
-[Unknown]
Sorry then :(
I just thought that is my Mod Idea i have post long time ago in the YaBBSE forum here (http://www.yabbse.org/community/index.php?thread=9563) because is exactly the same function, and you make the convertion back then.
Sorry again :(
Title: Re:A Status Update
Post by: David on November 02, 2003, 01:07:15 AM
Post by: David on November 02, 2003, 01:07:15 AM
Quote from: Cheschire on November 01, 2003, 06:59:21 PMThis should be pretty easy to do now with the RSS XML feeds.
Anyways check out nrrds.com (http://nrrds.com). The news on the front page is loaded from 4 different forums. Eventually I will take the collapsing effect and add it to threads on that page so that users will be able to select what forums they want displayed as collapsed when they first see the page. Also, I need to figure out a good way to do topic icons to get that slashdot post effect.
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: bri on November 10, 2003, 09:50:00 PM
Post by: bri on November 10, 2003, 09:50:00 PM
got to say the new version looks AWESOME! Cant wait to get it! ;)
Bri
Bri
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: Cccddd on November 11, 2003, 12:45:13 PM
Post by: Cccddd on November 11, 2003, 12:45:13 PM
Quote from: David on November 02, 2003, 01:07:15 AM
This should be pretty easy to do now with the RSS XML feeds.
actually all I had to do was edit the news template, add a < div style="float:right" > and make it print an image that was numbered based on the forum number, so forum 13 would have topic_13.gif or whatever.
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: Jeff Lewis on December 11, 2003, 12:33:35 AM
Post by: Jeff Lewis on December 11, 2003, 12:33:35 AM
It's been a month since the last update so I just wanted to make a quick note or two...
The Charter Members currently have what we're calling beta 2.5 in their hands, some have it running on their sites (a good example is http://www.xboxrules.com which ties in with their portal).
Overall the number of bugs has dropped quite rapidly as the CM's are being extremely helpful. While some things are being polished off, I'm harassing everyone for a public release date so that we can update you all soon - hoping to get a date for you all shortly...
The Charter Members currently have what we're calling beta 2.5 in their hands, some have it running on their sites (a good example is http://www.xboxrules.com which ties in with their portal).
Overall the number of bugs has dropped quite rapidly as the CM's are being extremely helpful. While some things are being polished off, I'm harassing everyone for a public release date so that we can update you all soon - hoping to get a date for you all shortly...
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: Fizzy on December 11, 2003, 02:03:24 AM
Post by: Fizzy on December 11, 2003, 02:03:24 AM
That's encouraging to hear Jeff.
Better to have a quality finished product rather than a quick and buggy release. :)
Better to have a quality finished product rather than a quick and buggy release. :)
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: Tom on December 11, 2003, 06:50:45 AM
Post by: Tom on December 11, 2003, 06:50:45 AM
Thanks for the update Jeff! :)
I've been really biting my tongue lately to try not to ask for a date.
I've been really biting my tongue lately to try not to ask for a date.
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: Adin on December 11, 2003, 08:05:16 AM
Post by: Adin on December 11, 2003, 08:05:16 AM
Quote from: Jeff Lewis on December 11, 2003, 12:33:35 AM
I'm harassing everyone for a public release date so that we can update you all soon - hoping to get a date for you all shortly...
lol ;D Great news. Can't wait to see the public version. And it's nice to hear that the CM's are that helpfull, i didn't expect that much from paided members, but they really seem to be loyalists. Two thumbs up. :)
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: James Woodcock on December 11, 2003, 08:52:11 AM
Post by: James Woodcock on December 11, 2003, 08:52:11 AM
Quote from: Jeff Lewis on December 11, 2003, 12:33:35 AM
It's been a month since the last update so I just wanted to make a quick note or two...
The Charter Members currently have what we're calling beta 2.5 in their hands, some have it running on their sites (a good example is http://www.xboxrules.com which ties in with their portal).
Overall the number of bugs has dropped quite rapidly as the CM's are being extremely helpful. While some things are being polished off, I'm harassing everyone for a public release date so that we can update you all soon - hoping to get a date for you all shortly...
Yeah we got a mention ;)
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: pulpitfire on December 11, 2003, 09:33:59 AM
Post by: pulpitfire on December 11, 2003, 09:33:59 AM
Quote
Thanks for the update Jeff!
same here!
Quote
I've been really biting my tongue lately to try not to ask for a date.
I think the smell of death would be if people weren't harassing you for the next release :).
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: Cccddd on December 12, 2003, 03:16:01 PM
Post by: Cccddd on December 12, 2003, 03:16:01 PM
Quote from: Adin on December 11, 2003, 08:05:16 AM
And it's nice to hear that the CM's are that helpfull, i didn't expect that much from paided members, but they really seem to be loyalists.
well so far its the best forum software with the best community i have seen...
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: loudog on December 13, 2003, 05:39:16 AM
Post by: loudog on December 13, 2003, 05:39:16 AM
Quote from: Jeff Lewis on December 11, 2003, 12:33:35 AM
It's been a month since the last update so I just wanted to make a quick note or two...
The Charter Members currently have what we're calling beta 2.5 in their hands, some have it running on their sites (a good example is http://www.xboxrules.com which ties in with their portal).
Overall the number of bugs has dropped quite rapidly as the CM's are being extremely helpful. While some things are being polished off, I'm harassing everyone for a public release date so that we can update you all soon - hoping to get a date for you all shortly...
Thanks for the update. I can't tell you how looking forward to this I am. If that is what this new forum will be like, I'm going to love it. Its super fast, feature friendly, and clean. Great work, and now I'll unpatiently waiting LOL
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: Ryan on December 14, 2003, 04:26:21 PM
Post by: Ryan on December 14, 2003, 04:26:21 PM
Nah get it up nowwww!!!
:P
pweaseee... before christmas make it our christmas prezzie from smf
:P
pweaseee... before christmas make it our christmas prezzie from smf
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: I, Brian on December 14, 2003, 05:21:01 PM
Post by: I, Brian on December 14, 2003, 05:21:01 PM
Darn it - the example link takes so long to load up I wondered if it was installing SMF on my browser!
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: Jeff Lewis on December 14, 2003, 06:58:05 PM
Post by: Jeff Lewis on December 14, 2003, 06:58:05 PM
What example link?
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: morph on December 14, 2003, 08:12:00 PM
Post by: morph on December 14, 2003, 08:12:00 PM
Quote from: Jeff Lewis on December 11, 2003, 12:33:35 AM
(a good example is http://www.xboxrules.com which ties in with their portal).
:D
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: bri on December 14, 2003, 10:22:11 PM
Post by: bri on December 14, 2003, 10:22:11 PM
Quote from: Fizzy on December 11, 2003, 02:03:24 AM
Better to have a quality finished product rather than a quick and buggy release. :)
No question. Cant wait! ;) Hope it'll be easy to adapt my YABBSE db! ;)
Bri
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: Mr. Jinx on December 24, 2003, 12:48:08 PM
Post by: Mr. Jinx on December 24, 2003, 12:48:08 PM
I want to upgrade my YaBBse forum to SMF, and I can't wait!
...so I'm considering to be become a charter member only to get the beta.
The thing I'm afraid of is that it will released very shortly (this year?). Could someone confirm this?
...so I'm considering to be become a charter member only to get the beta.
The thing I'm afraid of is that it will released very shortly (this year?). Could someone confirm this?
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: pulpitfire on December 24, 2003, 02:54:53 PM
Post by: pulpitfire on December 24, 2003, 02:54:53 PM
they won't say when it will be released, other than soon. even if they do, you'll receive new releases before everyone else for a full year, and you'll get direct support.
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: Mr. Jinx on December 24, 2003, 05:10:43 PM
Post by: Mr. Jinx on December 24, 2003, 05:10:43 PM
You're rite.. I'm using YaBB for such a long time.
I think they earned it! Here we gooooooooo 8)
I think they earned it! Here we gooooooooo 8)
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: Jeff Lewis on December 24, 2003, 07:24:26 PM
Post by: Jeff Lewis on December 24, 2003, 07:24:26 PM
Just another update....we have released our final Charter Member only beta before we release a public beta version...we're getting much closer everyone :)
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: Grudge on December 24, 2003, 08:35:03 PM
Post by: Grudge on December 24, 2003, 08:35:03 PM
Quote from: Jeff Lewis on December 24, 2003, 07:24:26 PMI'm using SMF on my board now. It truly rocks. Everyone else should wet themselves in anticipation [/
Just another update....we have released our final Charter Member only beta before we release a public beta version...we're getting much closer everyone :)
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Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: pulpitfire on December 24, 2003, 09:53:08 PM
Post by: pulpitfire on December 24, 2003, 09:53:08 PM
[me]applause[/me]
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: Alexandre P. on December 24, 2003, 11:10:16 PM
Post by: Alexandre P. on December 24, 2003, 11:10:16 PM
Arf, can't wait to.. :P
Maybe a gift for Jan 1st? :D
Maybe a gift for Jan 1st? :D
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: Cadish on December 25, 2003, 04:53:28 AM
Post by: Cadish on December 25, 2003, 04:53:28 AM
Hope so ;D
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: rpoelking on December 31, 2003, 11:28:36 AM
Post by: rpoelking on December 31, 2003, 11:28:36 AM
Ok guys, looks like you've been busy since I upgraded to YaBBSE from the cgi version. I don't have a lot of time to read all your specs. I'm sold. I'm getting NPO support on my forum and can pay the license fee. Here are my questions
1) Can I be put on a mailing list when you annouce Gold?
2) I've noticed a bug in SE where lastLogin was not always set. Is this fixed in SMF? Makes it hard for me to manage my member list when I'm cleaning out old members if I cannot rely on the data in lastLogin.
3) Please tell me template manipulation is easier!
4) Will I have to do the upgrade from SE to SMF myself? The CGI to PHP version was scary enough.
1) Can I be put on a mailing list when you annouce Gold?
2) I've noticed a bug in SE where lastLogin was not always set. Is this fixed in SMF? Makes it hard for me to manage my member list when I'm cleaning out old members if I cannot rely on the data in lastLogin.
3) Please tell me template manipulation is easier!
4) Will I have to do the upgrade from SE to SMF myself? The CGI to PHP version was scary enough.
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: Jeff Lewis on December 31, 2003, 11:41:40 AM
Post by: Jeff Lewis on December 31, 2003, 11:41:40 AM
Quote from: rpoelking on December 31, 2003, 11:28:36 AM
1) Can I be put on a mailing list when you annouce Gold?
An announcement will be posted here and for those that have notification turned on, they will receive an email.
Quote2) I've noticed a bug in SE where lastLogin was not always set. Is this fixed in SMF? Makes it hard for me to manage my member list when I'm cleaning out old members if I cannot rely on the data in lastLogin.
This doesn't exist in SMF (the bug)
Quote3) Please tell me template manipulation is easier!
All display code is seperated from main code and is extremely flexible.
Quote4) Will I have to do the upgrade from SE to SMF myself? The CGI to PHP version was scary enough.
Someone may help here, some people have taken advantage of our Charter Membership and have had team members do the upgrade for them.
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: [Unknown] on December 31, 2003, 11:46:39 AM
Post by: [Unknown] on December 31, 2003, 11:46:39 AM
(I might add that if you think buttering toast is hard, you might still find upgrading from YaBB SE to SMF pretty easy. It's nothing like converting from the Perl version of YaBB.)
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Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: rpoelking on December 31, 2003, 11:53:53 AM
Post by: rpoelking on December 31, 2003, 11:53:53 AM
That's very good news.
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: Cccddd on January 01, 2004, 12:39:35 AM
Post by: Cccddd on January 01, 2004, 12:39:35 AM
Don't forget Jeff, there is also news posted in the admin page of EVERYONE's forum when new releases come out.
rpoe, if you open the admin interface in SMF, like YaBBSE, you will see the iframe that loads from SMF's site directly that tells you when new releases come out.
rpoe, if you open the admin interface in SMF, like YaBBSE, you will see the iframe that loads from SMF's site directly that tells you when new releases come out.
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: [Unknown] on January 01, 2004, 05:05:56 AM
Post by: [Unknown] on January 01, 2004, 05:05:56 AM
Hey, don't insult me like that :P! It doesn't use an iframe in SMF, I hate iframes :P.
But, yes, it's there - and I also plan to put news out in all YaBB SE iframes to the same effect ;).
-[Unknown]
But, yes, it's there - and I also plan to put news out in all YaBB SE iframes to the same effect ;).
-[Unknown]
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: Ben_S on January 01, 2004, 09:03:38 AM
Post by: Ben_S on January 01, 2004, 09:03:38 AM
Just a quickie, havent looked at how it's done in SMF, but in the earlier YSE versions (possibly before you were around), it never used an I frame and if the yabb.info site went down, noone was able to get into their admin pages.
Just checking the way its done now wont cause a similar problem?
Just checking the way its done now wont cause a similar problem?
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: [Unknown] on January 01, 2004, 10:29:44 AM
Post by: [Unknown] on January 01, 2004, 10:29:44 AM
No, it will/should be fine... (I haven't tested it, though.. suppose I will now, just unplug the ethernet cable.)
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Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: rpoelking on January 01, 2004, 10:58:13 AM
Post by: rpoelking on January 01, 2004, 10:58:13 AM
That's even better news. I do check the admin page frequently. I wondered if you guys were still updating that info. I haven't seen anything for a while. Perhaps you should consider even posting an update that you are working on this project. I didn't know until I came back to the YaBBSE forum that any changes had been made.
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: Anguz on January 01, 2004, 04:32:57 PM
Post by: Anguz on January 01, 2004, 04:32:57 PM
hmm... if they mention it now, they'll have many yabbse users asking for the release date too... it'll probably be better to announce it when the public beta is out :P
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: Cccddd on January 02, 2004, 09:32:59 AM
Post by: Cccddd on January 02, 2004, 09:32:59 AM
Quote from: [Unknown] on January 01, 2004, 10:29:44 AM
No, it will/should be fine... (I haven't tested it, though.. suppose I will now, just unplug the ethernet cable.)
-[Unknown]
I've seen it go down before. it behaves fine. it just says some error message like unable to connect or something to that effect.
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: solarisjedi on January 06, 2004, 06:34:14 PM
Post by: solarisjedi on January 06, 2004, 06:34:14 PM
Quote from: Cheschire on January 02, 2004, 09:32:59 AMQuote from: [Unknown] on January 01, 2004, 10:29:44 AM
No, it will/should be fine... (I haven't tested it, though.. suppose I will now, just unplug the ethernet cable.)
-[Unknown]
I've seen it go down before. it behaves fine. it just says some error message like unable to connect or something to that effect.
What about when the forum is installed on a corporate Intranet where internet access is firewalled? In YSE this would take forever to time out since the firewall would just drop the packets.
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: [Unknown] on January 06, 2004, 07:29:14 PM
Post by: [Unknown] on January 06, 2004, 07:29:14 PM
No, it would behave the same as if www.simplemachines.org were down in this case, so it should be fine... just some reduced functionality.
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Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: FaSan on January 12, 2004, 02:45:23 AM
Post by: FaSan on January 12, 2004, 02:45:23 AM
Ok but....
Today is Jan,12 2004....
And i don't see the final free version.
Do you want they give to us a final date ?
Excuse my Little English
FaSan
Today is Jan,12 2004....
And i don't see the final free version.
Do you want they give to us a final date ?
Excuse my Little English
FaSan
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: Bas on January 12, 2004, 07:37:28 AM
Post by: Bas on January 12, 2004, 07:37:28 AM
I agree....is there any date known?
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: Jeff Lewis on January 12, 2004, 07:46:19 AM
Post by: Jeff Lewis on January 12, 2004, 07:46:19 AM
If there was a known date it would be posted in this board...we're working hard everyday trying to get things done and recently have sent a changelog to our Charter Members for the next release which means we're getting closer.
Also, when we do finally release our first public package, it will be a release candidate - not a final version.
Also, when we do finally release our first public package, it will be a release candidate - not a final version.
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: sneedo on January 12, 2004, 02:37:11 PM
Post by: sneedo on January 12, 2004, 02:37:11 PM
*salivating*
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: Yeehaw on January 12, 2004, 04:01:22 PM
Post by: Yeehaw on January 12, 2004, 04:01:22 PM
Just out of curiousity, how many of the developers have kids?
Inquiries of "Are We There Yet?" have gone from "Don't Make Me Pull Over", to the automatic "Pull Over And Whup The Kiddies" (locked thread)...
The parallel is overwhelming....especially since I have five of them...
;D
Inquiries of "Are We There Yet?" have gone from "Don't Make Me Pull Over", to the automatic "Pull Over And Whup The Kiddies" (locked thread)...
The parallel is overwhelming....especially since I have five of them...
;D
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: Jeff Lewis on January 12, 2004, 06:11:16 PM
Post by: Jeff Lewis on January 12, 2004, 06:11:16 PM
Quote from: Yeehaw on January 12, 2004, 04:01:22 PM
Just out of curiousity, how many of the developers have kids?
Not sure if Compuart has any but I have one. Some of the other team members have children as well...
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: eFishie on January 12, 2004, 06:23:18 PM
Post by: eFishie on January 12, 2004, 06:23:18 PM
I don't have children! But what do you expect? I'm 14. :)
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: bostasp on January 12, 2004, 07:20:31 PM
Post by: bostasp on January 12, 2004, 07:20:31 PM
And it wouldn't worry me if you did have kids Piranha... ::)
Yeehaw makes a good comparsion (at least I think, or something nor other)
Yeehaw makes a good comparsion (at least I think, or something nor other)
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: Owdy on January 12, 2004, 07:24:42 PM
Post by: Owdy on January 12, 2004, 07:24:42 PM
U didnt worry if 14 year old kid has own children? Really? :o
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: [Unknown] on January 12, 2004, 07:31:59 PM
Post by: [Unknown] on January 12, 2004, 07:31:59 PM
Well, I live in LA. It's not as if it's unheard of.
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Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: bostasp on January 12, 2004, 07:33:59 PM
Post by: bostasp on January 12, 2004, 07:33:59 PM
Well, I wouldn't worry if Piranha had kids, well, really, I wouldn't be suprised... worry was the wrong word :P
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: Owdy on January 12, 2004, 07:37:11 PM
Post by: Owdy on January 12, 2004, 07:37:11 PM
Quote from: [Unknown] on January 12, 2004, 07:31:59 PM
Well, I live in LA. It's not as if it's unheard of.
-[Unknown]
I know. And its sad. Children makes children. USA aint so perfect, is it....
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: bostasp on January 12, 2004, 08:07:15 PM
Post by: bostasp on January 12, 2004, 08:07:15 PM
Owdy, it happen's everywhere...
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: Jeff Lewis on January 12, 2004, 09:15:47 PM
Post by: Jeff Lewis on January 12, 2004, 09:15:47 PM
Quote from: bostasp on January 12, 2004, 08:07:15 PM
Owdy, it happen's everywhere...
Exactly :)
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: Owdy on January 13, 2004, 04:43:08 AM
Post by: Owdy on January 13, 2004, 04:43:08 AM
Quote from: Jeff Lewis on January 12, 2004, 09:15:47 PMQuote from: bostasp on January 12, 2004, 08:07:15 PM
Owdy, it happen's everywhere...
Exactly :)
In here its rare. It happends, but its rare. 14 year old kid aint mature enough to take care of small child.
(lol, how offtopic this can get ;) )
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: Curbow 5 on January 13, 2004, 04:53:25 AM
Post by: Curbow 5 on January 13, 2004, 04:53:25 AM
my firstborn is on his or her way! (no i'm not on the team, but i just thought i'd share the joy! :D)
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: sneedo on January 13, 2004, 05:12:54 AM
Post by: sneedo on January 13, 2004, 05:12:54 AM
Quote from: Curbow 5 on January 13, 2004, 04:53:25 AM
my firstborn is on his or her way! (no i'm not on the team, but i just thought i'd share the joy! :D)
congrats
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: RoCKeT-88 on January 13, 2004, 10:33:05 AM
Post by: RoCKeT-88 on January 13, 2004, 10:33:05 AM
Quote from: Owdy on January 13, 2004, 04:43:08 AMQuote from: Jeff Lewis on January 12, 2004, 09:15:47 PMQuote from: bostasp on January 12, 2004, 08:07:15 PM
Owdy, it happen's everywhere...
Exactly :)
In here its rare. It happends, but its rare. 14 year old kid aint mature enough to take care of small child.
(lol, how offtopic this can get ;) )
Thats Ok theres lots of people over 18 who arent mature enough to be raising children as well.
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: nil on January 13, 2004, 01:17:21 PM
Post by: nil on January 13, 2004, 01:17:21 PM
Quote from: `Z0mB|e` on January 13, 2004, 10:33:05 AMQuote from: Owdy on January 13, 2004, 04:43:08 AMQuote from: Jeff Lewis on January 12, 2004, 09:15:47 PMQuote from: bostasp on January 12, 2004, 08:07:15 PM
Owdy, it happen's everywhere...
Exactly :)
In here its rare. It happends, but its rare. 14 year old kid aint mature enough to take care of small child.
(lol, how offtopic this can get ;) )
Thats Ok theres lots of people over 18 who arent mature enough to be raising children as well.
Or stay on topic. lol
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: morph on January 13, 2004, 01:24:21 PM
Post by: morph on January 13, 2004, 01:24:21 PM
Quote from: Jeff Lewis on January 12, 2004, 07:46:19 AM
If there was a known date it would be posted in this board...we're working hard everyday trying to get things done and recently have sent a changelog to our Charter Members for the next release which means we're getting closer.
Also, when we do finally release our first public package, it will be a release candidate - not a final version.
Ah good that is good to hear. That should answer the question we keep hearing over and over again.
(trying to get back on topic) :P
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: nil on January 14, 2004, 07:44:58 PM
Post by: nil on January 14, 2004, 07:44:58 PM
Quote from: Jeff Lewis on January 12, 2004, 07:46:19 AM
If there was a known date it would be posted in this board...we're working hard everyday trying to get things done and recently have sent a changelog to our Charter Members for the next release which means we're getting closer.
Also, when we do finally release our first public package, it will be a release candidate - not a final version.
You say that "it will be a release candidate" does that mean that there might not be many public betas?
*If this is asking too much just forget I asked.
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: Jeff Lewis on January 14, 2004, 07:50:05 PM
Post by: Jeff Lewis on January 14, 2004, 07:50:05 PM
Everything is still very speculative...one thing is for certain - the guys working on the code are doing A LOT of work on it. As soon as we figure out more, we'll post more.
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: Oldiesmann on January 16, 2004, 08:56:38 AM
Post by: Oldiesmann on January 16, 2004, 08:56:38 AM
Quote from: Sexy Nil on January 14, 2004, 07:44:58 PM
You say that "it will be a release candidate" does that mean that there might not be many public betas?
*If this is asking too much just forget I asked.
"Release Candidate" is the term applied to anything between the final beta version and the final release, ie, a "candidate" for the final release. It's more stable than a beta version, but might still have some bugs or other minor issues to work out. Everyone will be able to download and run these versions. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: pulpitfire on January 16, 2004, 09:14:34 AM
Post by: pulpitfire on January 16, 2004, 09:14:34 AM
Quote from: Sexy Nil on January 14, 2004, 07:44:58 PM
...You say that "it will be a release candidate" does that mean that there might not be many public betas?...
on the contrary, being a candidate for release is like being a candidate for president. it implies you are one of many (betas) being tweaked, until one finally wins the nomination (release status).
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: Tyris on January 16, 2004, 08:53:00 PM
Post by: Tyris on January 16, 2004, 08:53:00 PM
but in software it usually doesnt mean that there will be multiple candidates at one time... in fact with SMF I assume there will be one after another until one is released that is deemed stable and complete enough for v1.0 status.
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: [Unknown] on January 16, 2004, 08:57:24 PM
Post by: [Unknown] on January 16, 2004, 08:57:24 PM
Sometimes multiple versions of certain features are made as candidates. However, this is not always the case.
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Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: Tyris on January 16, 2004, 09:30:15 PM
Post by: Tyris on January 16, 2004, 09:30:15 PM
can we expect this to happen with SMF...? or is it pretty much just gonna be getting better until release as each version comes out?
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: Cccddd on January 17, 2004, 12:00:05 AM
Post by: Cccddd on January 17, 2004, 12:00:05 AM
im pretty sure the team will release as many stable updates as they can to the charter members, and they will try to keep only the absolutely stable (and usually older) versions available to the public.
I've been pushing for a nightly build release personally, like some sort of weekly alpha release that is released on an as-is basis and gets no support at the helpdesk level. You can only say so many times "Don't install this version if you don't know what you are doing" before some idiot trys to install it on their own, but for some of us who know what we are doing, having access to a nightly build in some way would be a positive thing.
i dunno i just think that having an anonymous CVS would be a surefire way to keep just every joe-******up from installing it. and add one board for nightly builds just to keep the support issues from showing up with the stable releases...
I've been pushing for a nightly build release personally, like some sort of weekly alpha release that is released on an as-is basis and gets no support at the helpdesk level. You can only say so many times "Don't install this version if you don't know what you are doing" before some idiot trys to install it on their own, but for some of us who know what we are doing, having access to a nightly build in some way would be a positive thing.
i dunno i just think that having an anonymous CVS would be a surefire way to keep just every joe-******up from installing it. and add one board for nightly builds just to keep the support issues from showing up with the stable releases...
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: logik on January 25, 2004, 12:59:30 AM
Post by: logik on January 25, 2004, 12:59:30 AM
So when can we expect to see the final version? This Spring, Summer or even Winter?
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: morph on January 25, 2004, 01:11:56 AM
Post by: morph on January 25, 2004, 01:11:56 AM
Quote from: logik on January 25, 2004, 12:59:30 AM
So when can we expect to see the final version? This Spring, Summer or even Winter?
*cough*http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=2314.0*cough* ;)
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: logik on January 25, 2004, 01:26:30 AM
Post by: logik on January 25, 2004, 01:26:30 AM
Quote from: $morph on January 25, 2004, 01:11:56 AM*cough*http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=2314.0*cough* ;)
ah ha, not asking for any exact dates, just a slightly generalized ETA based on the Seasons of 2004.
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: [Unknown] on January 25, 2004, 01:48:52 AM
Post by: [Unknown] on January 25, 2004, 01:48:52 AM
Quote from: logik on January 25, 2004, 01:26:30 AM
the Seasons of 2004.
Well, there's your problem... 2004 :P?
Kidding.
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Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: logik on January 25, 2004, 01:54:53 AM
Post by: logik on January 25, 2004, 01:54:53 AM
hahaha *cough* *sputter* :'(
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: Amacythe on January 25, 2004, 02:20:18 AM
Post by: Amacythe on January 25, 2004, 02:20:18 AM
[Unknown], Thanks for the touch of humor... I needed that tonight
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: Peter Duggan on January 25, 2004, 05:50:49 AM
Post by: Peter Duggan on January 25, 2004, 05:50:49 AM
Quote from: logik on January 25, 2004, 01:26:30 AM
ah ha, not asking for any exact dates, just a slightly generalized ETA based on the Seasons of 2004.
Sorry, can't do that... since it's winter now for most of us but summer for some, the potential for hemispherical confusion is simply too great! :-X
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: pulpitfire on January 25, 2004, 09:11:31 AM
Post by: pulpitfire on January 25, 2004, 09:11:31 AM
Quote from: Tyris on January 16, 2004, 08:53:00 PM
but in software it usually doesnt mean that there will be multiple candidates at one time... in fact with SMF I assume there will be one after another until one is released that is deemed stable and complete enough for v1.0 status.
yes, exactly. v1.0 (candidate), v2.0 (candidate), v2.5 (candidate), v3.14 (candidate), etc.
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: Cadish on January 25, 2004, 09:12:51 AM
Post by: Cadish on January 25, 2004, 09:12:51 AM
Quote from: pege on January 25, 2004, 09:11:31 AMActually, it's v-3.1415 >:DQuote from: Tyris on January 16, 2004, 08:53:00 PM
but in software it usually doesnt mean that there will be multiple candidates at one time... in fact with SMF I assume there will be one after another until one is released that is deemed stable and complete enough for v1.0 status.
yes, exactly. v1.0 (candidate), v2.0 (candidate), v2.5 (candidate), v3.14 (candidate), etc.
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: pulpitfire on January 25, 2004, 09:13:40 AM
Post by: pulpitfire on January 25, 2004, 09:13:40 AM
Quote from: Cadish on January 25, 2004, 09:12:51 AMQuote from: pege on January 25, 2004, 09:11:31 AMActually, it's v-3.1415 >:DQuote from: Tyris on January 16, 2004, 08:53:00 PM
but in software it usually doesnt mean that there will be multiple candidates at one time... in fact with SMF I assume there will be one after another until one is released that is deemed stable and complete enough for v1.0 status.
yes, exactly. v1.0 (candidate), v2.0 (candidate), v2.5 (candidate), v3.14 (candidate), etc.
3.1415926535...
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: treo on January 25, 2004, 09:16:31 AM
Post by: treo on January 25, 2004, 09:16:31 AM
-Pi ^^
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: [Unknown] on January 25, 2004, 03:39:50 PM
Post by: [Unknown] on January 25, 2004, 03:39:50 PM
Actually, it's 1.0 BETA -3.1415. It is not by any means version 3.14. Nor is it a release candidate.
-[Unknown]
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Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: pulpitfire on January 25, 2004, 04:05:31 PM
Post by: pulpitfire on January 25, 2004, 04:05:31 PM
[sidetrack]an example isn't supposed to be an exact equivelant in every regard (e.g. a pool que is like a stick, but that doesn't mean it is exactly equivelant to a stick in every way, or that it is incorrect to say it's like one).[/sidetrack]
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: Cccddd on January 25, 2004, 11:12:32 PM
Post by: Cccddd on January 25, 2004, 11:12:32 PM
Quote from: Peter Duggan on January 25, 2004, 05:50:49 AM
Sorry, can't do that... since it's winter now for most of us but summer for some, the potential for hemispherical confusion is simply too great! :-X
So in the southern hemisphere, would the releases spin the opposite direction than the north? Does South America have beta +3.1415 right now?
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: [Unknown] on January 26, 2004, 02:50:59 AM
Post by: [Unknown] on January 26, 2004, 02:50:59 AM
Quote from: Cheschire on January 25, 2004, 11:12:32 PMQuote from: Peter Duggan on January 25, 2004, 05:50:49 AM
Sorry, can't do that... since it's winter now for most of us but summer for some, the potential for hemispherical confusion is simply too great! :-X
So in the southern hemisphere, would the releases spin the opposite direction than the north? Does South America have beta +3.1415 right now?
Yes. I have a very special virus installed on all the computers that browse this site and/or use the beta that switches it. Even if they say otherwise, this is just because of the virus.
It was difficult to write, but very effective and fun.
-[Unknown]
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: Fizzy on January 26, 2004, 04:04:24 AM
Post by: Fizzy on January 26, 2004, 04:04:24 AM
Quote from: Cheschire on January 25, 2004, 11:12:32 PM
So in the southern hemisphere, would the releases spin the opposite direction than the north? Does South America have beta +3.1415 right now?
So at the equator that would mean that they get SMF 1.0 Beta Nil ? ;D
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: Reeka @ The Silver River on January 26, 2004, 10:05:03 AM
Post by: Reeka @ The Silver River on January 26, 2004, 10:05:03 AM
Quote from: [Unknown] on January 26, 2004, 02:50:59 AMQuote from: Cheschire on January 25, 2004, 11:12:32 PMQuote from: Peter Duggan on January 25, 2004, 05:50:49 AM
Sorry, can't do that... since it's winter now for most of us but summer for some, the potential for hemispherical confusion is simply too great! :-X
So in the southern hemisphere, would the releases spin the opposite direction than the north? Does South America have beta +3.1415 right now?
Yes. I have a very special virus installed on all the computers that browse this site and/or use the beta that switches it. Even if they say otherwise, this is just because of the virus.
It was difficult to write, but very effective and fun.
-[Unknown]
So, now my computer is lying to me. ;)
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: Anguz on January 26, 2004, 12:28:11 PM
Post by: Anguz on January 26, 2004, 12:28:11 PM
Quote from: Fizzy on January 26, 2004, 04:04:24 AMQuote from: Cheschire on January 25, 2004, 11:12:32 PM
So in the southern hemisphere, would the releases spin the opposite direction than the north? Does South America have beta +3.1415 right now?
So at the equator that would mean that they get SMF 1.0 Beta Nil ? ;D
no, I guess it'd be 0
Title: Re: A Status Update
Post by: loudog on January 27, 2004, 05:41:10 AM
Post by: loudog on January 27, 2004, 05:41:10 AM
You guys are so funny...................
NOT
I'm patient, and I'll wait as long as it takes, but for some people this isn't a joke, nor is the constant humor which seems only funny to the insiders on this site helpful in regards to release dates, and version numbers. If you guys want to have a respected, popular software, that will encourage future Charter members, and long time website users, this isn't a good selling point. I've visited this site every day since the new site opened in anticipation of some great new things, and I'm sure they will be at some point, but either don't say anything, or release the software. This just doesn't strike me as funny, or professional after months and months of regurgitated humor.
For every day I visit this site and read these types of post, I put off signing up for a Charter membership another day, and gain more patients in waiting for the free version. It was funny the first few hundred times. It seems like such a waste of time and talent to continue with this nonsense. Sorry I'm so harsh, bash me if you will, but I liked this group of people allot better prior to SMF. Don't ruin a good thing..........................
NOT
I'm patient, and I'll wait as long as it takes, but for some people this isn't a joke, nor is the constant humor which seems only funny to the insiders on this site helpful in regards to release dates, and version numbers. If you guys want to have a respected, popular software, that will encourage future Charter members, and long time website users, this isn't a good selling point. I've visited this site every day since the new site opened in anticipation of some great new things, and I'm sure they will be at some point, but either don't say anything, or release the software. This just doesn't strike me as funny, or professional after months and months of regurgitated humor.
For every day I visit this site and read these types of post, I put off signing up for a Charter membership another day, and gain more patients in waiting for the free version. It was funny the first few hundred times. It seems like such a waste of time and talent to continue with this nonsense. Sorry I'm so harsh, bash me if you will, but I liked this group of people allot better prior to SMF. Don't ruin a good thing..........................