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Customizing SMF => Modifications and Packages => Topic started by: Kermit on December 22, 2008, 10:16:08 AM

Title: Spider Board & Topic Access
Post by: Kermit on December 22, 2008, 10:16:08 AM
Link to Mod (http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=1546)

Spider Board & Topic Access

Version: 1.0 Date 2008-12-5
Compatibility: SMF 1.1.7 , SMF 2.0 Beta 4





When this option is enabled,then the selected spiders are be able to browse the site and the others guests will be
redirected to the login page,when they try to enter a board or a topic.It makes sense,when somebody wants to restrict guest access of the site topics,
but it's not a good thing for the spiders,who brings hits & new members to our site.This little modification would let us to allow spiders to browse our site,when we don't want to let other guests to browse the site



How can you activate it ?

Admin -> Features and Options -> Enable spider access (SMF 1.1.7)

Admin -> Modifications -> Enable spider access (SMF 2.0 Beta 4)

Greetz
Duncan85


Ps: Search engines such as Google, may ban users' site for using this mod, as giving more access to bots than guests is against their TOS
Title: Re: Spider Board & Topic Access
Post by: karlbenson on December 22, 2008, 10:48:15 AM
Using this mod will get you banned (aka Sandboxed) from Google and most other search engines.

It is EXPRESSLY against Googles Terms & Conditions that you must NOT show content to 'spider' guests which you don't show to human guests.  also known as Cloaking.
http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=35769

The risk of getting caught results in temporary or permanent ban.  So I would not recommend using this mod if you want to be in search engines. (Its not worth the risk).  Search engines do check for cloaking and sites do regularly get banned for doing it.

Its ALL or NOTHING. If you want to be indexed, that same content must be showable to guests (without the need for them to register)

Alternative solutions: Limit no. of page views per day per guest. (without differentiating between spiders and human guests).
Title: Re: Spider Board & Topic Access
Post by: Kermit on December 22, 2008, 10:59:15 AM
Quote from: regularexpression on December 22, 2008, 10:48:15 AM
Using this mod will get you banned (aka Sandboxed) from Google and most other search engines.

It is EXPRESSLY against Googles Terms & Conditions that you must NOT show content to 'spider' guests which you don't show to human guests.  also known as Cloaking.
http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=35769

The risk of getting caught results in temporary or permanent ban.  So I would not recommend using this mod if you want to be in search engines. (Its not worth the risk).  Search engines do check for cloaking and sites do regularly get banned for doing it.

Its ALL or NOTHING. If you want to be indexed, that same content must be showable to guests (without the need for them to register)

Alternative solutions: Limit no. of page views per day per guest. (without differentiating between spiders and human guests).

I've already added a warning message related to that issue to readme file of installation package...
Title: Re: Spider Board & Topic Access
Post by: Sabreā„¢ on December 22, 2008, 10:47:31 PM
This looked pretty enticing till I read this
"Search engines such as Google, may ban users' site for using this mod, as giving more access to bots than guests is against their TOS"
lol

Good idea, but not really worth the risk to me :)

Keep up the good work though mate :)
Title: Re: Spider Board & Topic Access
Post by: DeviDarkL on March 18, 2009, 02:41:49 PM
Great Mod ;)

Portuguese_pt translation:
<file name="$languagedir/Modifications.portuguese_pt.php" error="skip">
   <operation>
   <search position="end" />
   <add><![CDATA[
$txt['enable_spiderAccess'] = 'Autorizar acesso dos Spiders';
$txt['enabled_spider'] = 'Os spiders que deveriam ter acesso ao site <br /><i> (Como um exemplo,para os spiders <b><font color="red">google e yahoo</font></b> deve-se escrever google,yahoo) ';

]]></add>
   </operation>
</file>
<file name="$languagedir/Modifications.portuguese_pt-utf8.php" error="skip">
   <operation>
   <search position="end" />
   <add><![CDATA[
$txt['enable_spiderAccess'] = 'Autorizar acesso dos Spiders';
$txt['enabled_spider'] = 'Os spiders que deveriam ter acesso ao site <br /><i> (Como um exemplo,para os spiders <b><font color="red">google e yahoo</font></b> deve-se escrever google,yahoo) ';

]]></add>
   </operation>
</file>
Title: Re: Spider Board & Topic Access
Post by: Sudhakar Arjunan on July 20, 2009, 12:34:59 PM
Good Mod.

Earlier everyone requested this mod.

And Author have clearly updated that this may also block the access to search engines.
Title: Re: Spider Board & Topic Access
Post by: Astro1 on January 26, 2010, 01:11:17 AM
Who's used this and is still indexed?
Title: Re: Spider Board & Topic Access
Post by: Snogmarr on March 17, 2010, 07:34:06 PM
Hmm I  have guest access to my boards and I lost it, so I did a bit of detective work and narrowed it down to this mod?
Install this and when guests click on a board it brings up the register template,, de install it and guests can enter the boards.
Title: Re: Spider Board & Topic Access
Post by: Kermit on March 18, 2010, 06:02:29 AM
Quote from: xnathansxdadx on March 17, 2010, 07:34:06 PM
Hmm I  have guest access to my boards and I lost it, so I did a bit of detective work and narrowed it down to this mod?
Install this and when guests click on a board it brings up the register template,, de install it and guests can enter the boards.


The purpose of this mod is that, to restrict access for guests and allow for the spiders
Title: Re: Spider Board & Topic Access
Post by: Arantor on March 18, 2010, 06:47:53 AM
But it's limiting even on boards that should be visible to guests...
Title: Re: Spider Board & Topic Access
Post by: Snogmarr on March 18, 2010, 07:15:34 AM
But the spiders are accessing the boards without this mod

as we speak

Guest      05:08:21 AM     Viewing Who's Online.
Guest    02:36:02 AM    Viewing the board index of .
Guest    01:31:38 AM    Unknown Action
Guest    12:12:32 AM    Viewing the board index of .
Guest    March 17, 2010, 10:14:57 PM    Viewing the board index of .
Guest    March 17, 2010, 07:42:34 PM    Viewing the board Test Board.
Guest    March 17, 2010, 06:28:25 PM    Viewing the topic FAC-ADMIN.

so my boards are being spidered
my only guest board is the test board, i can tell their activity because i have 130 errors in my error log from the spiders trying to access chat, affiliates etc.
Title: Re: Spider Board & Topic Access
Post by: Arantor on March 18, 2010, 07:18:36 AM
That's proof of absolutely NOTHING.

Who's Online doesn't check whether the user listed actually has permission to see those things. It just logs that an account is trying to do that.
Title: Re: Spider Board & Topic Access
Post by: Snogmarr on March 18, 2010, 07:33:57 AM
It does when I check those IP addresses back to google, bing, yahoo, alexa, etc or is that saying somebody from the google alexa yahoo page etc has accessed my site?
Title: Re: Spider Board & Topic Access
Post by: Arantor on March 18, 2010, 07:44:54 AM
It's saying that someone from that IP address has tried to access those areas, nothing more.
Title: Re: Spider Board & Topic Access
Post by: Snogmarr on March 18, 2010, 07:58:44 AM
Well thats me told then I will shut up now!

Title: Re: Spider Board & Topic Access
Post by: MaXiForum.cz on November 06, 2010, 03:42:12 PM
Hello,
is there another possibility to allow access to search engines but no for guests?
Is this mod a big risk?
Thank you
Title: Re: Spider Board & Topic Access
Post by: Oya on November 06, 2010, 03:56:27 PM
if you allow search engines access but not guests, search engines can and do come back in a way you can't easily identify then block you for cloaking results
Title: Re: Spider Board & Topic Access
Post by: MaXiForum.cz on November 06, 2010, 05:26:40 PM
I am not understand.
What do you mean please? :)
Title: Re: Spider Board & Topic Access
Post by: Kermit on November 07, 2010, 03:34:43 AM
Quote from: MaXiForum.cz on November 06, 2010, 03:42:12 PM
Hello,
is there another possibility to allow access to search engines but no for guests?

This is the logic of this mod already

Quote
Is this mod a big risk?
Thank you
Yes,it's a risk,because you can get banned from some search engines
Title: Re: Spider Board & Topic Access
Post by: MaXiForum.cz on November 07, 2010, 04:49:18 AM
Thank you!
I can get banned from some search engines or banned from Adsense? :)
And exist another possibility to allow access to search engines but no for guests?
:)
Title: Re: Spider Board & Topic Access
Post by: Kermit on November 07, 2010, 05:50:01 AM
Quote from: MaXiForum.cz on November 07, 2010, 04:49:18 AM
Thank you!
I can get banned from some search engines or banned from Adsense? :)
And exist another possibility to allow access to search engines but no for guests?
:)

This mod has not much to do with adsense and your second question i have already answered above
Title: Re: Spider Board & Topic Access
Post by: MaXiForum.cz on November 07, 2010, 07:06:31 AM
I am understand. Thanks ;)