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Title: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Douggy on July 29, 2009, 05:30:01 PM
In your own personal opinion/preference, which do you like better?

SimplePortal or TinyPortal?
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Firesphere on July 29, 2009, 05:56:47 PM
So far, running beta4 of TinyPortal, I gotta say, I'm pretty happy with it!
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Reflection on July 29, 2009, 06:13:15 PM
Simple Portal.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: babjusi on July 29, 2009, 06:14:49 PM
TinyPortal.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Eliana Tamerin on July 29, 2009, 06:19:01 PM
Better question is: why?

But keep it civil, if it gets out of hand this topic will likely be locked.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Firesphere on July 29, 2009, 06:31:21 PM
Well, best thing, a feature-overview, but I can't seem to find a feature-overview of SimplePortal...
and the TinyPortal's feature-overview is well... erm... tiny.

I don't know, I like TinyPortal, that's it for me, as long as it works and does what I want, you won't hear me complain.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Eliana Tamerin on July 29, 2009, 06:43:53 PM
Feature overview, like this?

http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=1104

Didn't want to post TP's, as I wasn't sure which one best promotes their features.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Antechinus on July 29, 2009, 07:24:37 PM
I prefer Tiny Portal myself if we're talking about 1.1.x. For SMF 2.0 there is no available TP yet so that puts it out of the running.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Blinker on July 29, 2009, 08:48:43 PM
SimplePortal. I've tried both and that's my choice. It's, well, ummm...simpler.

BTW why is this in the Support forum? It's a discussion topic. ;)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Antechinus on July 29, 2009, 08:52:21 PM
Good point. Moving to Chit chat in 3, 2, 1....................
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Norv on July 29, 2009, 09:00:34 PM
Tiny Portal.
Somehow it seemed more handy, to me, I think. Its file repository is nice (though I don't use it, but this doesn't change the fact that it's nice. *nods dumbly*)

Though since it's not available for 2.0 I've started using Simple Portal out of commodity and I like it. It does what it says and it doesn't stand in your way. Exactly what one would ask from a piece of good software, I guess.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: TheListener on July 29, 2009, 09:17:16 PM
Simple Portal

Why?

Friendly team and friendly support

Website and Forum for FULL support

Is easy to use.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: diplomat. on July 30, 2009, 01:53:07 AM
My question is: Whats with the easy and small-adjective named portals? Im waiting for a DifficultPortal or a LargePortal to be released...
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: TheDisturbedOne on July 30, 2009, 02:09:21 AM
My question is: Whats with the easy and small-adjective named portals? Im waiting for a DifficultPortal or a LargePortal to be released...
I'm on the dev team for ComplicatedPortal.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Eliana Tamerin on July 30, 2009, 02:14:05 AM
Because 90% of forum admins are the 'fix it and forget it' type. They want something they can set up without consulting a manual, and something that will work 100% of the time. Yet they also want powerful features. This is something that devs have to balance, making a powerful system that's easy to administrate. It can go overboard, though. It can be like creating an iPhone, with huge power but oversimplified systems (just an opinion) versus a Windows Mobile phone with huge power but complicated systems (yet another opinion). Something needs to be in the middle with huge power by simple systems that take advantage of it.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Dzonny on July 30, 2009, 05:01:31 AM
Tiny Portal. :D
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Reflection on July 30, 2009, 12:18:24 PM
My question is: Whats with the easy and small-adjective named portals? Im waiting for a DifficultPortal or a LargePortal to be released...
I'm on the dev team for ComplicatedPortal.

LOL. That made my day. Seriously.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Jade Elizabeth on July 30, 2009, 12:54:00 PM
I added a poll cause I'm awesome :D.


I like SP better, I've used TP, and it was my first portal, but SP seems faster and easier for me. I love the features (especially the way articles work) and I've found it really simple to use.

I work on SP's strings too (I'm Language Coordinator), so I'd hope I preferred it :P.
For the record, that's not why I prefer it, I honestly came to SP because I liked it, and THEN was put on the team :P
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: tooman on July 30, 2009, 03:31:09 PM
simpleportal

i like it
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Sabre™ on July 30, 2009, 06:24:54 PM
I'm on the dev team for ComplicatedPortal.
(https://www.simplemachines.org/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.postsmile.net%2Fimg%2F19%2F1968.gif&hash=01de2e1c56c74d5bacb71e49bcdfae0f)

Both teams are great, but my preferred portal is ...  ;)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: meko me on July 30, 2009, 06:30:07 PM
meko prefers tinyportal :) neat and clean portal :)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Antechinus on July 30, 2009, 06:33:22 PM
I honestly cannot understand why anyone finds TP difficult to use. I never did, and I had never seen the insides of any portal at all before installing TP. It has a lot of options but they are (mostly) sensibly laid out, and you don't need to use them all at once anyway if you don't want to.

I have installed SP on test sites but every time I do I wonder why I bothered. Nothing against the team. I just don't see the point of the product.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: busterone on July 30, 2009, 06:36:32 PM
SP simply because I used it first and have stuck with it. When I went to SMF2, it was ready, so I am still using it.  I may have to try TP on a different board to be fair though.  :)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Reflection on July 30, 2009, 06:36:57 PM
I honestly cannot understand why anyone finds TP difficult to use. I never did, and I had never seen the insides of any portal at all before installing TP. It has a lot of options but they are (mostly) sensibly laid out, and you don't need to use them all at once anyway if you don't want to.

I have installed SP on test sites but every time I do I wonder why I bothered. Nothing against the team. I just don't see the point of the product.

The point of the product is the same exact as Tiny Portal-- it's a portal. LOL.

Likewise, you might not see TP difficult, but I certainly know people who would. You're a "Support Specialist", so obviously you'd know how to use it. :P
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Antechinus on July 30, 2009, 06:42:53 PM
Yes, but when I installed TP I was not a support specialist. I jumped into an admin role with zero experience of any forum software and no knowledge of any sort of coding. Complete beginner. My one saving grace is that I can think logically when necessary.

That was in November 2007, by the way. Installed TP on New Year's Eve. Never looked back.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Sabre™ on July 30, 2009, 06:52:14 PM
When I first installed TP, I was very impressed.
Then the support from the team absolutely blew me away!
The multiple theme support, the unlisted and listed block codes, ALL of the options you have 'standard', the teams dedication to each members needs, the simplicity in its functions........  the list goes on and on.
Then on and on and on...  lol
Installed some time a few years ago, and wont use another on a live site atm.

I gave SP a run a few times on test sites...
I put it down to being a fairly young project :)
I also had a pretty bad experience with a team member the first time I visited the official site, so that turned me right off!! lol
The rest of the team are superb.
Like any product, they are advancing toward their goal.

Anything that assists in enhancing SMF is always good :)   imo

The team at Tiny Portal will release the SMF2 product once that version goes ..... gold?? ;)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Minare on July 30, 2009, 07:31:01 PM
I used them both and Simple portal is my choice, maybe because it is easier to manage, for me.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: mirahalo on July 30, 2009, 08:22:37 PM
/me likes SP ;)

although I have never used another portal....
...and dont need to....
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: IchBin™ on July 30, 2009, 10:38:22 PM
Been involved with TP since its birth. Live it, learn it, love it. Has more features and control than any of the other portals I've tried.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: SteveFJ on July 30, 2009, 10:57:27 PM
I was disappointed with Tiny Portal when I looked at it.

Simple Portal impressed me on a number of issues. It's compact and versatile, with an admin set up that really would difficult to make easier. It also passes with W3C. Something that is a big thing with me.
And a very nice bunch that are involved with it's development too.

I think it will become the number one choice for most, and that it will be around for a very long time to come.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Antechinus on July 31, 2009, 01:28:13 AM
The latest TP's are getting pretty good on validation. I expect TP2 will get a clean pass.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: a7upstr8 on July 31, 2009, 01:59:32 AM
I had used Tiny Portal & SMF but had since switched to phpbb forums.
SMF and TinyPortal are fine if you arent fussy and like that generic look
and the support  here at smf forums & the tiny portal site sux big time

I also used the Ultimate Profile Mod & the guy who wrote it skipped right over my questions on the support forum, he answered everyone but me.  Which is the reason I switched to phpbb

I dont miss smf at all
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Antechinus on July 31, 2009, 02:08:47 AM
Well, for someone who doesn't miss it you seem strangely keen to post here. ;)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Sabre™ on July 31, 2009, 02:24:51 AM
Wow a7upstr8!
Since you have been a member of this board since December 05 2005, I find it a shame that you have such a low regard for this site.
With your mighty ... 17 posts, I can understand how awful your experience has been.

Sarcasm aside, don't let a couple bad experiences conquer you. :)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: a7upstr8 on July 31, 2009, 02:30:12 AM
Well, for someone who doesn't miss it you seem strangely keen to post here. ;)

lol im suing someone who posts here, he is infringing upon my copyright/trademarks
so  I am copying and printing all of his posts, I saw the topic and shared my experiences

so what gives, if you arent an smf ass kisser you cant post here?
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Antechinus on July 31, 2009, 02:33:55 AM
Nobody said you can't post here.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: sepulchre on July 31, 2009, 06:43:27 AM
Simpleportal for me, it was the first portal I installed and it did what I wanted without any issues so I never looked any further.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Eliana Tamerin on July 31, 2009, 09:45:30 AM
I had used Tiny Portal & SMF but had since switched to phpbb forums.
SMF and TinyPortal are fine if you arent fussy and like that generic look
and the support  here at smf forums & the tiny portal site sux big time

I also used the Ultimate Profile Mod & the guy who wrote it skipped right over my questions on the support forum, he answered everyone but me.  Which is the reason I switched to phpbb

I dont miss smf at all

Ever tried SimplePortal? You should give it a try.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Marcus Forsberg on July 31, 2009, 09:54:50 AM
SimplePortal ftw! :D
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: bloc on July 31, 2009, 09:57:05 AM
My question is: Whats with the easy and small-adjective named portals? Im waiting for a DifficultPortal or a LargePortal to be released...
Thats a good question ;D I been lately considering moving to TPortal instead, at least its not size-orientated name lmao.

That said, its not really "tiny" anymore"..but the name stuck. I would say SimplePortal prob. is more appropriate name for what it presents. But watch out, it might be less simple with time too. ;)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Eliana Tamerin on July 31, 2009, 10:01:16 AM
Even some SMF advocates point out that Simple Machines Forum isn't quite so simple. :P
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: [SiNaN] on July 31, 2009, 11:25:19 AM
Originally I haven chosen "SimplePortal" mainly because it served a harmony with what it was for, Simple Machines Forum. I have to admit it is getting some advanced features in it. But still, I think we are keeping it simple to use. And that's what people -I think- love about SP and the reason why I call it the power of simplicity.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Samker on July 31, 2009, 11:58:33 AM
TinyPortal definitely.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: rölyef on July 31, 2009, 02:20:57 PM
SimplePortal :)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Jade Elizabeth on July 31, 2009, 03:37:25 PM
Nobody said you can't post here.

But if you don't play nicely you wont be allowed :).
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Boxerforum on August 01, 2009, 06:06:08 PM
Simple Portal  :)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: NBK*Twitch on August 01, 2009, 10:03:06 PM
I have only used eZportal so far so thats my choice.

However looking at tinyportal I might try it next.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: kingkingston on August 03, 2009, 04:08:05 PM
I like any space portal that takes you to another galaxy
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: robbie93 on August 03, 2009, 04:56:52 PM
TinyPortal v1.0 beta 4 © Bloc  8)    in our opinion is  by far the best portal  :D
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Jade Elizabeth on August 03, 2009, 09:54:44 PM
TinyPortal v1.0 beta 4 © Bloc  8)    in our opinion is  by far the best portal  :D

How many personalities you got in there? :P
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Waldo Geraldo Faldo on August 03, 2009, 10:10:15 PM
TinyPortal v1.0 beta 4 © Bloc  8)    in our opinion is  by far the best portal  :D

How many personalities you got in there? :P
We agree. :P
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: robbie93 on August 03, 2009, 10:17:13 PM

How many personalities you got in there? :P

http://www.youtube.com/v/Qw9oX-kZ_9k&hl=en&fs=1&    :-\
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Jade Elizabeth on August 03, 2009, 10:20:05 PM
Lame :(.

I even made the OUR bit red :(.
If you have one identity you would say "In my opinion" not "in our opinion".


And the video sucked :(.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: StarChildxox on August 03, 2009, 10:27:24 PM
 
Lame :(.

I even made the OUR bit red :(.
If you have one identity you would say "In my opinion" not "in our opinion".


And the video sucked :(.

 The "our" is referring to both robbie and I...  And after all I think people would know that
considering the sites URL is robbie93andhotchildxox.  :)  Or you could just look at my signature  ;)

                         O:)
                  hotchildxox
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Jade Elizabeth on August 03, 2009, 10:28:19 PM
I know. I was trying to have some fun.



/me goes back to her box ::)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: StarChildxox on August 03, 2009, 10:29:52 PM
 Oh  (https://www.simplemachines.org/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi382.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Foo264%2Fhotchildxoxrobbie93%2FShygiggle.gif&hash=e00d1c27492c66502b677d86880e29e8)

K's then....


                     O:)
               hotchildxox
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Waldo Geraldo Faldo on August 03, 2009, 10:34:26 PM
Is Robbie and Hotchild same person or two different people in love? Where do I sign up to join?

RobbieHotChildWaldo ;D

(Waldo)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: StarChildxox on August 03, 2009, 10:39:21 PM
 Depends on which site you want to join,(https://www.simplemachines.org/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi382.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Foo264%2Fhotchildxoxrobbie93%2FShygiggle.gif&hash=e00d1c27492c66502b677d86880e29e8) all though, we are in love either way  :)  We are and always
will be.

                                  O:)
                             hotchildxox 
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Jade Elizabeth on August 03, 2009, 10:50:32 PM
I want photographic proof you two exist.


I need a sign that says "We love Al!" held up too ;D
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: StarChildxox on August 03, 2009, 11:06:15 PM
I want photographic proof you two exist.


I need a sign that says "We love Al!" held up too ;D

 LMAO  (https://www.simplemachines.org/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi382.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Foo264%2Fhotchildxoxrobbie93%2FShygiggle.gif&hash=e00d1c27492c66502b677d86880e29e8) I think we have made sure all of simplemachines know we exist ha ha...   Sometimes not so favorably  ::)
all though,  ???  we could be bots?  :-\  I don't think so (pssst robbie are we bots?)  :o

                                 O:)
                          hotchildxox
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Jade Elizabeth on August 03, 2009, 11:10:50 PM
I want photographic proof you two exist.


I need a sign that says "We love Al!" held up too ;D

 LMAO  (https://www.simplemachines.org/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi382.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Foo264%2Fhotchildxoxrobbie93%2FShygiggle.gif&hash=e00d1c27492c66502b677d86880e29e8) I think we have made sure all of simplemachines know we exist ha ha...   Sometimes not so favorably  ::)
all though,  ???  we could be bots?  :-\  I don't think so (pssst robbie are we bots?)  :o

                                 O:)
                          hotchildxox

You could be one very deranged person :D.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: robbie93 on August 03, 2009, 11:12:16 PM
Well...  I'm not a bot  :D and I know you're not a bot  ;D ,  but what I really want to know is ...  who the hell is Al?   8)


I need a sign that says "We love Al!" held up too ;D
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Jade Elizabeth on August 03, 2009, 11:13:16 PM
Me. Jade Elizabeth, aka Alundra. Al is short for Alundra.


(https://www.simplemachines.org/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.simplemachines.org%2Fcommunity%2Fcustom_avatars%2Favatar_119433_1248761448.png&hash=88f4ec1283f60c4169d40581463517da)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: StarChildxox on August 03, 2009, 11:15:44 PM
 well... If I am a bot, I'm the pretty bot  :-* (https://www.simplemachines.org/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi382.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Foo264%2Fhotchildxoxrobbie93%2FShygiggle.gif&hash=e00d1c27492c66502b677d86880e29e8) and as for al?   Who the hells kitchen cares?  Let Al get his
own topic...  :)

                                           O:)
                                     hotchildxox

                                           


           


                         
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: robbie93 on August 03, 2009, 11:24:21 PM
Errrrrm...  cough cough  :o  ( whispers to hotchildxox...  Jade is Alundra...  Alundra is Jade Elizabeth...  and Al is short for Alundra...  Al is Alundra man :D ...  and she isnt a guy either...  look down there. )  ;)

  (https://www.simplemachines.org/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.simplemachines.org%2Fcommunity%2Fcustom_avatars%2Favatar_119433_1248761448.png&hash=88f4ec1283f60c4169d40581463517da)

Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: StarChildxox on August 03, 2009, 11:29:12 PM
Errrrrm...  cough cough  :o  ( whispers to hotchildxox...  Jade is Alundra...  Alundra is Jade Elizabeth...  and Al is short for Alundra...  Al is Alundra man :D ...  and she isnt a guy either...  look down there.  ;)

  (https://www.simplemachines.org/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.simplemachines.org%2Fcommunity%2Fcustom_avatars%2Favatar_119433_1248761448.png&hash=88f4ec1283f60c4169d40581463517da)



  :o  :(  Opps....    :D  Here Jade you can have my princess crown,(https://www.simplemachines.org/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi382.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Foo264%2Fhotchildxoxrobbie93%2Fdaprincess.gif&hash=93e60ba58ccaa89f25d18755d486ba92)  (um just for the day though)
SOOOOO  sorry  about that, erm  cough cough you beat me to the post...


                                          O:)
                                    hotchildxox
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: mashby on August 03, 2009, 11:43:49 PM
I like them both. Seems this topic has steered away from the original question. I use TinyPortal, but they both have their merits.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Alex - A2Hosting on August 09, 2009, 08:42:14 AM
SimplePortal ftw :)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Gurbet_42 on August 15, 2009, 04:25:17 PM
Simple the best : Simpleportal  ;D
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Orstio on August 15, 2009, 04:32:52 PM
My question is: Whats with the easy and small-adjective named portals? Im waiting for a DifficultPortal or a LargePortal to be released...
I'm on the dev team for ComplicatedPortal.

ComplicatedPortal is no match for RubeGoldbergPortal.  :P
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Antechinus on August 15, 2009, 05:01:29 PM
My personal favourite is InsanelyBadlyDocumentedPortal. Their motto is "We hide everything to drive you mental".
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Jade Elizabeth on August 15, 2009, 05:07:19 PM
My personal favourite is InsanelyBadlyDocumentedPortal. Their motto is "We hide everything to drive you mental".

Well I prefer BadPortal which is even hosted off site ;D.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: bolubeyi61 on August 15, 2009, 06:35:05 PM
Tiny portal very good.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: kai920 on August 18, 2009, 04:08:05 AM
Simple portal also very good.

(I use SP simply because it works with SMF 2.x)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: mikungfu on August 19, 2009, 10:02:56 PM
After having read literally all posts I am still a bit confused. Some people say "Simple Portal", simply because it's simpler. Other people say "Tiny Portal" because it's more powerful or whatever...

Let's see: what I for one would love to know is which one is better in what in terms of features and functionality.
As you might imagine, each person will have different needs and will take advantage differently from each Portal...

so, what I need is a list of features (modules, for instance) that one has and the other don't. Bugs that each one may have... Why simple Portal is simpler... Which one integrates better (themes, etc...) and how? Do they both have a Blog? Do they both have or support Galleries? Downloads, Shops?? How does articles work? Is the possibility of installing standalone a big advantage of SP? What are the available Modules for TP??.. TP website is not that descriptive in terms of features... And although SP website is slightly more descriptive, people reading this thread really could use a descriptive/detailed comparison between each Portal's features.

Please descriminate/list as much strong/weak points in detail for each Portal so that people may choose what better suits their needs... Please, don't just say "I loooove TP!.. But I never used SP." or vice-versa, for that matter...
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Antechinus on August 19, 2009, 11:42:44 PM
Ok, you want a detailed comparison. How about you write it? Somebody has to and it would be a good way of answering your own questions while making the information available to others.

I can answer a few of them though.

1/ Neither of them have a blog.
2/ Simple Portal is simpler because it has less functionality.
3/ Tiny Portal has a built-in download system. Not sure about SP.
4/ Galleries and shops are not included in either portal. You still need extra mods for those.
5/ Articles are just what they say. Tiny Portal has a better article system IMO because in SP articles are just standard forum posts that are called articles. Tiny Portal does articles on their own full-size pages and you can assign them to categories of articles.

Oh and for 2.0 I still reckon PortaMx is better than both of them. 
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Eliana Tamerin on August 19, 2009, 11:56:31 PM
I would have to refute number 2 of your points, Antechinus. The simplicity of SimplePortal (one word, not two) is in its design and usability. Sure, we have users who request X or Y feature similar to Z portal's, but our main goal is to make the software itself simple to use. It's intention is not to be restrictive or crippling in features, a 'dumb' portal so to speak, but to be as robust as its competitors while simultaneously having an intuitive and easy usability.

Also as for number 5, SP's newest version brings custom pages to its portal, similar to TP's article system. While not exactly the same, for the most part, TP's articles and SP's pages function very much in the same fashion: to store static information which would normally be a forum post, but is more important or referenced enough to require its own top-level location.

While I don't intend to debate, I simply wished to clarify those points so that readers will have an accurate view of each competitor's features.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: kai920 on August 19, 2009, 11:58:08 PM
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Oh and for 2.0 I still reckon PortaMx is better than both of them. 

I've never used PortaMx, can you briefly state why you think so?
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Antechinus on August 20, 2009, 12:00:24 AM
Well the first is not a refutation but an opinion. I have looked into both. ;) You admit yourself that your goal is to make things simple, which is fair enough, but it does place limitations on what you can do.

The second: last I looked they were basically just forum posts by another name. That was 2.2.2 I think, or 2.2.3 or whatever. Couple of weeks ago anyway.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Antechinus on August 20, 2009, 12:02:36 AM
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Oh and for 2.0 I still reckon PortaMx is better than both of them. 

I've never used PortaMx, can you briefly state why you think so?
Combination of good functionality, a good interface that is easy to use without needing to be dumbed down in any way, and infinite styling possibilities for custom pages. That's the short version.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Eliana Tamerin on August 20, 2009, 12:08:34 AM
The second: last I looked they were basically just forum posts by another name. That was 2.2.2 I think, or 2.2.3 or whatever. Couple of weeks ago anyway.

Then if you would refrain on speaking to that which you have little knowledge. I do the same for TP, as I have not used it regularly since it's early 1.0 beta versions. It would not be fair for me to presume TP's current status or direction at this point. Please know I mean no offense or disrespect in this statement.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Antechinus on August 20, 2009, 12:11:56 AM
Well if you have released an upgraded version in the past couple of weeks I'll take another look at it.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: bloc on August 20, 2009, 06:30:19 AM
Maybe we should rather acknowledge there is an interest and a will to expand SMF - no matter what portal you like to use. :)

Different sites, different needs.

As for expanding any portal with more options, like blogs, shop, gallery etc. its already alternatives that works, .e.g SMF Store, SMF MG, Zcommunity and so on. TP module feature will see modules like these, yes, but even more it can make smaller ones more useful for a mini-CMS/portal. For example pure frontpage manager, RSS feedmanager, Custom page/form creator etc.

I can relate very much to TP being perceived as more complicated than others though, thats why the next release, v1.0 beta5 is being rewritten to face that challenge better. Its also primary developed on SMF2, so the beta will support both SMF 1.1.x and SMF 2.0 RC1/2.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: mikungfu on August 20, 2009, 07:34:10 AM
Ok, you want a detailed comparison. How about you write it? Somebody has to and it would be a good way of answering your own questions while making the information available to others.

What????.... A person comes here wanting to learn something and you sugest him to answer it himself??? Has it crossed your mind that the main reason for someone to ask for an explanation is because he simply doesn't know?..

Yes it is true that nobody had yet come into details about both Portals features so, no need to rush into trying to "criticize back".

Thanks for the informative part of your reply. That helped me and should help others.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Antechinus on August 20, 2009, 07:40:02 AM
Most people wont have a list of exactly what all the differences are between all the portals. Including me. I was saying that if you are really interested you should look into it yourself. That way you find out what you want to know and you can tell other people. What's wrong with that? Somebody has to do the comparison.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Minare on August 20, 2009, 07:45:41 AM
Most people wont have a list of exactly what all the differences are between all the portals. Including me. I was saying that if you are really interested you should look into it yourself. That way you find out what you want to know and you can tell other people. What's wrong with that? Somebody has to do the comparison.

Completely agree

"beauty is in the eye of the beholder"

"there's no accounting for taste"

"different strokes for different folks"
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: mikungfu on August 20, 2009, 01:46:28 PM
Most people wont have a list of exactly what all the differences are between all the portals. Including me. I was saying that if you are really interested you should look into it yourself. That way you find out what you want to know and you can tell other people. What's wrong with that? Somebody has to do the comparison.

I can understand that most people don't have a list by heart. All that I asking was for people who have had experience with these portals (specially those who have used them both) to try and make some compared list of their features and each portals compared weaknesses and strengths.

Of course I did try to investigate it myself... But there is not enough information available. Specially when it comes to TP, the available info at the website is "spartan", to say the least! They say something like "we have a shoutbox and a downloads module and... Many others that you will love".
Of course in these circumstances we (people who have never used any of the portals, but want to learn before installing) have no choice but to rely on the experience of people who have used them, in order to get this information.

...And in case you're wondering, of course I have asked at the TP portal why there was so little info about features. Bloc (the developer himself) said I was right and promised to work an a comprhensive list of features.

When I saw a topic with this title I didn't expect to read 4 pages of discussion without this kind of info. Even though some of those 4 pages were due to topic derrailing...
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Villesa on August 22, 2009, 09:24:04 PM
Maybe we should rather acknowledge there is an interest and a will to expand SMF - no matter what portal you like to use. :)

Different sites, different needs.

As for expanding any portal with more options, like blogs, shop, gallery etc. its already alternatives that works, .e.g SMF Store, SMF MG, Zcommunity and so on. TP module feature will see modules like these, yes, but even more it can make smaller ones more useful for a mini-CMS/portal. For example pure frontpage manager, RSS feedmanager, Custom page/form creator etc.

I can relate very much to TP being perceived as more complicated than others though, thats why the next release, v1.0 beta5 is being rewritten to face that challenge better. Its also primary developed on SMF2, so the beta will support both SMF 1.1.x and SMF 2.0 RC1/2.

Could you Bloc help me out please?
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Crip on September 05, 2009, 12:02:27 PM
TP Rules Baby!

.....all the rest just drool    :P
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: G6™ on September 05, 2009, 12:29:23 PM
For me it's TP for several reasons.

1. Easy to use and easy to work with
2. it's own layersystem that make about any other theme made for SMF work with it
3. Panel and grid system for blocks that make it possible to create any layout you want, only your own imagination stops you.
4. Module system ( and also in the works for more and easier functionality ) where you decide what extra functions you want to have in your postal, instead of building everything in a package that gets to be so big you have a hard time installing it to a host.
5. TPs forum and site. So much info with everything from a simple code change to very complext changes to make a site look like a "one and only or One of a kind" site if you like, instead of just a page with boxes and texts.
6. How it handles security regarding uploads and downloads to the host. Images and GD library are walking hand in hand, and in return you never have to scratch your head when a layout breaks up because of to large images.
7. The team on TP. Easy people handpicked into the "family" where everyone have their own way in helping out. A very easy going team that always gives a hand to the ones in need of help.
8. Block code and snippets that constantly are growing with the help of members with ideas. The team always listen to new ideas including the developer and coders that 99% of the time take the ideas in and try to make them happen.
9. Expanding article pages where you draw out your own fully integrated webpages and name them according to the content so it's easy for google to read them and save them ( pretty urls like )

I can go on and on writing in why im for TP, and i can promisse you thats not just because im one of the team there, i wouldent been that if i didnt love the software and where it's headed. Especially now when it's close to be done for SMF2 aswell :)

I have tried SP and MK portal aswell, but i didnt like how things were looking inside and the difficulty of making changes in the code and making themes work inside them. I guess it might be diffrent if you are use to the software, but i saw no reason to learn more about them as im stuck with the portal i love already  :)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Deaks on September 05, 2009, 01:57:20 PM
after being avid TP fan for years my fav is SP, many times myself and my friends have asked for support on TP site and to this day there has not been any helpful answer or replies to them.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Crip on September 05, 2009, 02:02:36 PM
duh......
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: WillyP on September 05, 2009, 02:10:46 PM
I can't believe anyone would have a complaint about TP's support staff... not to say any others is not just as good, but so often I am truly amazed at the patience of people who volunteer their time and resources to help people who can't describe their problem effectively, or can't read simple rules for requesting help.

But anyway, I voted for TP, I did briefly try several other portals and found TP to be the closest match for what I wanted to do. I looked at a number of factors... what 'extras' were available at the time, how the site looked when installed, how quickly I was able to catch on...

To be honest, I don't remember exactly what I liked about TP. A feature comparison grid would be extremely helpful.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Dazed on September 05, 2009, 03:35:20 PM
I have not found a more helpful community than the TP site. While this particular portal may not be the end all save all for everyone I feel that it best suits my needs. I have had a few rough times there regarding certain issues but they have always been resolved. You also cannot beat what is available from themes to blocks, and otherwise. From its most basic level TP is the most user friendly IMO and best supported. Notice the "IMO" please as I am not here to flame. Let it be said that no matter your portal choice, theme, or otherwise; SMF and it's community, mods, support, and personal choice is what matters.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Arantor on September 05, 2009, 11:46:19 PM
I have to admit, I've recently started trying out SP - though I said about not using it earlier in this thread - and I can see it's making a difference on my dev site though I haven't yet got into doing the really good customisations I want yet.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: mashby on September 05, 2009, 11:49:50 PM
I like/use TinyPortal. Still using .98 but have installed the beta on another site I help out with and both work fine. I merely chose it because I saw that Bloc was the author of it and he has some strong merit around here. I'm not so sure it's better or worse than SimplePortal, EzPortal, PortaMX, or Dream Portal. It was just a gut reaction at the time I was looking for a portal (May 2008). At the end of the day, this thread is more like, which car is the best. All of the cars get you from point A to point B and have some gas mileage implications and maybe even some insurance implications. And if the car is convertible, it may have some "picking up chicks" (read that as mid-life issues) implications.

What great about all of them is they provide a selection based on your needs...much like the "I need a forum software, which one do I choose" debate. Everyone will have an opinion on that too as well, and each one has its merits.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Something like that on September 09, 2009, 10:30:03 PM
My question is: Whats with the easy and small-adjective named portals? Im waiting for a DifficultPortal or a LargePortal to be released...

Because if you wanted that, you could just use vBulletin ;D
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Norv on September 10, 2009, 12:13:16 AM
Harr!
It's a tie now! 37/37.
/me realizes it would look weird to admit cheering around here, so solely marks the tie on the board.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Facundo on September 10, 2009, 12:14:16 AM
SimplePortal Rulez  O:)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Eliana Tamerin on September 10, 2009, 12:30:35 AM
Harr!
It's a tie now! 37/37.
/me realizes it would look weird to admit cheering around here, so solely marks the tie on the board.

It's about time. That's about what I would expect, that it's really not that one portal is better than the others, just that it simply fits one person better versus another.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Antechinus on September 11, 2009, 04:01:29 AM
Sort of like sex toys, huh? :D
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Sabre™ on September 11, 2009, 04:11:11 AM
O.o
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: TheListener on September 11, 2009, 04:12:14 AM
Sort of like sex toys, huh? :D

Expert are we?   ;D
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Sabre™ on September 11, 2009, 04:14:01 AM
Oh sheeks!
A little off topic, but I just realised Im a hero lol

and to keep on topic
TP rocks! :D
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: TheListener on September 11, 2009, 04:16:16 AM
Oh sheeks!
A little off topic, but I just realised Im a hero lol

and to keep on topic
TP rocks! :D

Sabre have a look at the portal on my test forum

 :D
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Sabre™ on September 11, 2009, 04:19:21 AM
Where's your test forum, the one in your sig?
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: TheListener on September 11, 2009, 04:20:17 AM
Where's your test forum, the one in your sig?

Yep
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Sabre™ on September 11, 2009, 04:51:13 AM
Yeah, I already knew you used that one.
Since it's fairly new, registered in the "Most Popular Mods" section, and has an active thread, these usually contribute to newer members/users selecting the mod in their early introduction to portals. Similar to how you'd find the more recent of mods used, when there is an earlier/similar one.
This is my opinion only :)

As already stated many times by many members, its personal choice :)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: HoTmetal on September 11, 2009, 10:31:06 AM
I used TP for a bit. It has some nice features, and I love Bloc themes, but as SP has emerged, I like its end user layout 10x better. Also my users seem to be more receptive to it.

I don't like to say one if better than the other, but rather that they are different with a different purpose. Use the one that best fits your needs.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Chasingu on September 20, 2009, 10:08:46 PM
I have only use TinyPortal so I am going to have to say TinyPortal.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: king kratos on September 20, 2009, 11:06:22 PM
I am currently using SP and haven't tested TP. I think that since my forum is in beta 4 mode, I will not be making any major changes. I plan to start a new forum in the near future and will probably check out TP to see what it's like.

I really like SP because it seems to be very simple to configure and offers a lot of features.

Kratos
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: nokotin on September 20, 2009, 11:09:26 PM
I have only use TinyPortal so I am going to have to say TinyPortal.

That doesn't make sense. You can't say you prefer Tinyportal if you haven't tried SP.

Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Chasingu on September 20, 2009, 11:43:42 PM
I have only use TinyPortal so I am going to have to say TinyPortal.

That doesn't make sense. You can't say you prefer Tinyportal if you haven't tried SP.


Sure I can. I don't use the portal really anymore so I don't really care.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Antechinus on September 25, 2009, 01:20:33 AM
I have only use TinyPortal so I am going to have to say TinyPortal.

That doesn't make sense. You can't say you prefer Tinyportal if you haven't tried SP.
Well hey, if he hasn't used SP he can hardly say he prefers that. :D
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: SAFAD on September 25, 2009, 07:04:51 AM
hmmmmmmm
lets see
maybe
SMF index is the best available portal right now :)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Minare on September 25, 2009, 07:19:29 AM
hmmmmmmm
lets see
maybe
SMF index is the best available portal right now :)

Try SP :P
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: TheListener on September 25, 2009, 08:08:41 AM
The folks at SP are miracle workers.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: bullbreedluverz on September 25, 2009, 08:21:14 AM
personally i dont see myself  using a portal again -

ive tried both TP & SP and had problems with both -

1 in perticular flooded my site with errors and was told the version had issues and an update was released to deal with it but upon trying to uninstall it it screwed my site up as it only part uninstalled and when i used the portals support site the only help i got was being given the wrong instructions to uninstall which wasnt very helpfull and when i asked for more help i gave up after a couple weeks of waiting, in the meantime my site was a mess and in the end i had to overwrite my files...... im not that bothered by bit work but for the complete lack of worthwhile support leaves me wary to ever use a portal again
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: ოկtђ on September 25, 2009, 08:26:23 AM
My favorite is simpleportal.it is simple and useful..
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Norv on September 25, 2009, 08:31:46 AM
For any mod installation, specially big mods (but you never know), it might be useful to keep in mind that SMF is always making a backup of your core files before installing it, in ./Packages/backup folder. So if things really go wrong, one can always overwrite the current files with those from the backup.

Back on topic: nice to see the votes show them still keeping close!
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Chasingu on September 25, 2009, 09:39:27 AM
For any mod installation, specially big mods (but you never know), it might be useful to keep in mind that SMF is always making a backup of your core files before installing it, in ./Packages/backup folder. So if things really go wrong, one can always overwrite the current files with those from the backup.

Back on topic: nice to see the votes show them still keeping close!
Thanks for that information. i never knew that before.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Sabre™ on September 25, 2009, 10:31:17 PM
@ stikkki
I'm a member at both sites and have read all of your posts regarding your described issue.
Your last post at TP suggests that it was installed fine, and there is no mention of it being otherwise.
The team and/or members would most definitely continue to assist you if you had/have further issues :)

With your first portal issue...  well I dunno mate, I cannot speak about that which I do not know.
The support staff numbers are high, so cannot explain why you received no assistance for awhile, but a member has offered it for you.

I personally enjoy the little extras portals provide. Most can be found in mods, but the "all in one" idea is the way I like it.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Yahmez on September 25, 2009, 11:08:42 PM
...that it's really not that one portal is better than the others, just that it simply fits one person better versus another.
Sort of like sex toys, huh? :D
Or sexual preference? ROFL
No seriously, that was effing hilarious exchange there.
Oh and I haven't tried tiny portal to be fair, but I started with EZPortal and now use SimplePortal and am very happy with it and the support.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: bullbreedluverz on September 26, 2009, 04:42:42 AM
@ stikkki
Your last post at TP suggests that it was installed fine, and there is no mention of it being otherwise.


i never named the portal.... ur assuming i ment TP
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Sabre™ on September 26, 2009, 05:43:49 AM
Nope.

I'm a member at both sites and have read all of your posts regarding your described issue.

I know which portal you meant buddy :)
Since you stated you no longer use any portal, I guessed it was because you were still having problems, so mentioned that you could still get assistance if needed.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: bullbreedluverz on September 26, 2009, 05:58:32 AM
that was nearly 9 months ago... life has moved on a little since then lol
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Sabre™ on September 26, 2009, 09:43:55 AM
Well You brought it up! lol
I just merely read into it out of curiosity.
It was a good read as well.
There are other portals available if you desire to have another attempt in the future. These 2 will be here for a loong time to come. And so will the support for them :)
I personally never push anybody into one direction or another, we all have the ability to decide for ourselves, but I'll use which ever provides what I need, with less hassle.
So 'for Myself', I already use the best, and will just leave the rest.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: TheListener on September 26, 2009, 09:46:22 AM
*Throws a waterbomb at Sabre on behalf of the Simpleportal team*
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: bullbreedluverz on September 26, 2009, 10:04:12 AM
Well You brought it up! lol

i ment "forum" life lol
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: IchBin™ on September 26, 2009, 08:14:55 PM
*Throws a waterbomb at Sabre on behalf of the Simpleportal team*

/me Throws the [$context['TPortal']] Shield up to protect him

:P
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Antechinus on September 26, 2009, 08:18:54 PM
I'm going be using The Evil Portal anyway so I don't care. :P
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: ML on September 27, 2009, 06:26:42 PM
Excuse my ignorance on the subject, but what exactly do these "portals" do?
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Arantor on September 27, 2009, 06:35:09 PM
Portals add a frontend around the forum. For example SimplePortal adds a new front page that displays recent posts, plus other blocks too, and includes a non-AJAX shoutbox.

Take a look at www.simpleportal.net - the front page is what SP offers out of the box (though obviously not the exact same theme)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: bloc on September 27, 2009, 06:57:30 PM
Thats probably the least powerful feature of a "portal" IMHO, I always felt adding extra pages - and even extra whole functions - is the most desireable thing to add to a forum.

Thats why TinyPortal (http://http.//www.tinyportal.net) have always been focused more on "articles", which really is custom pages, reached through "index.php?page=mypage". They can be of PHP, HTML or BBC types and even external HTML or PHP pages located somewhere on the server.

It really gives you more to play with, without loosing touch of the community/forum of course.

Think of a portal(in this sense) as a mini-CMS, or Lighter "Joomla+SMF" if you like.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Arantor on September 27, 2009, 07:21:26 PM
Sure, I glossed over that, but I often find it's easier to explain what something is by demoing its most visible features.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Antechinus on September 27, 2009, 07:25:52 PM
I agree. The front page itself is trivial. Custom pages (unlimited in content, number, arrangement and individual styling) are another big benefit. Side panels added to the forum, that can be made to appear or disappear with one click, add a lot more available functionality particularly if you are site admin. Top and bottom blocks can also be useful although to my mind they are not as important.

Everyone has their own ideas on the optimum layout. My opinion is that:

1/ It must look clean and slick. Haphazard insertion of blocks all over the place reduces the appeal of a site. This means that both the content and the sizes of the blocks must be considered when deciding on layout.

2/ The arrangement of the blocks must make good ergonomic sense. As an example, I find that having a listing of recent posts at the left of the forum works really well. People love it because they can see what is going on while they are browsing the forum. In fact the traditional board index, although it is often considered the central part of a forum, is in my opinion almost redundant on a well laid-out site.

3/ The number of blocks per page and their content must be carefully considered with regard to load times. As an example, RSS feeds are resource hogs, so if you have six different RSS feeds and a shoutbox and a listing of the last 50 recent posts all on the forum's main page then it will load like a total slug compared to a basic SMF forum. Use what you need on each page and no more. If you need more then link to it clearly with a custom menu.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Arantor on September 27, 2009, 07:32:04 PM
Front page is what gets people in, IMO, but yes it is a smaller benefit than the other stuff.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: TheListener on September 27, 2009, 07:36:36 PM
I use my portals as tasters for what is in the Forum.

To me a portal is like a websites frontpage and is treated as such.

Simpleportal is the easiest to use and navigate.

Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Antechinus on September 27, 2009, 07:42:43 PM
Well I'm running TP at the moment and I've had members say our site is the best- looking and best laid-out they've ever seen, with a great combination of functionality and ease of use. They may be biased but it's nice to hear anyway. So it doesn't depend on which portal you use, but more on what you choose to do with it.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Sabre™ on September 27, 2009, 09:12:04 PM
@ TheListener
Which other portals have you used, and asked for assistance on their site if experiencing problems?
I can only find you at SP.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: TheListener on September 27, 2009, 09:15:27 PM
Way back in the depths of time...

Ok so it was april this year I looked at TP and ezportal and didn't get on with them like I do with sp.

Each portal will obviously have its pros and cons
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Sabre™ on September 27, 2009, 09:17:29 PM
Did you have another handle or something mate?
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: TheListener on September 27, 2009, 09:22:19 PM
Nope.

Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Sabre™ on September 27, 2009, 09:23:56 PM
interesting ...
I must've missed your handle while browsing the memberlists
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: TheListener on September 27, 2009, 09:26:32 PM
Like I said it was way back in the depths of time.

 ;D
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Sabre™ on September 27, 2009, 09:36:35 PM
Yep, although I've found members since 2004 etc..  mysteriously, there isn't one with your handle.
But Im pretty sure I have seen your handle elsewhere.
Say for TP for instance, can you privately or here, link me to one of your posts?
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: TheListener on September 27, 2009, 09:38:20 PM
er no as there aint any that I am aware off.

Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Sabre™ on September 27, 2009, 09:40:07 PM
Ok so it was april this year I looked at TP and ezportal and didn't get on with them like I do with sp.

....link me to one of your posts?

er no as there aint any that I am aware off.

Ok
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: [SiNaN] on September 28, 2009, 03:41:31 AM
Thats probably the least powerful feature of a "portal" IMHO, I always felt adding extra pages - and even extra whole functions - is the most desireable thing to add to a forum.

Thats why TinyPortal (http://http.//www.tinyportal.net) have always been focused more on "articles", which really is custom pages, reached through "index.php?page=mypage". They can be of PHP, HTML or BBC types and even external HTML or PHP pages located somewhere on the server.

It really gives you more to play with, without loosing touch of the community/forum of course.

Think of a portal(in this sense) as a mini-CMS, or Lighter "Joomla+SMF" if you like.

Yeah, custom pages are the real difference between single portal pages and what makes it a portal. I personally don't find articles appropriate for this use though. That's why SimplePortal has them separate as Custom Pages and Articles (still being worked on to be forum independent).

As for a few features which I believe makes SimplePortal unique; ~30 customizable blocks and BBC, HTML and PHP content type blocks; standalone mode; unlimited number of AJAX shoutboxes. I have to admit that Articles are not very useful at the moment but I'm sure that will be sorted out in next versions.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Antechinus on September 28, 2009, 03:46:22 AM
Why would you want an unlimited number of shoutboxes?
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: [SiNaN] on September 28, 2009, 03:51:18 AM
You could have different shoutboxes for different groups (teams?) or even different areas.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Antechinus on September 28, 2009, 04:04:46 AM
Ah. Flashchat 5 does that too. :)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: bloc on September 28, 2009, 07:05:49 AM
Shoutboxes are, I'll admit, not the most focused thing in TP. Providing means of dressing up that shoutbox could be interesting. At this time they are pretty dull-looking.

The reason I bring up articles/pages is, that for me, I really enjoy using SMF lol. But I also enjoy making static pages. How about combining them..? Thats the source of TP actually, me wanting to put everything up based on SMF, if it was possible.

"Portals" , in the more traditional sense of the word, are sites that gather together people into a community, a central meeting point. So any software to claiming to do that, needs these functions - and more.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: IchBin™ on September 28, 2009, 09:33:25 AM
I hate shoutboxes... lol I've always felt they detract from the content. I've thought about Ajax'ing TP's shoutbox a few times in the past. I agree about the features mentioned for a Portal here. I was glad to see SP add custom pages.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Dustine1017 on September 30, 2009, 11:51:43 PM
I am using TP at the moment and I've had associates say our website is the best- searching and best laid-out they've anytime seen, with a abundant aggregate of functionality and affluence of use. They may be biased but it's nice to apprehend anyway. So it doesn't depend on which aperture you use, but added on what you accept to do with it.

Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Antechinus on October 01, 2009, 12:03:00 AM
Well thanks for your input. :D Which version off TP are you using and what do you think is its best feature? :P
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: watchhorse on October 10, 2009, 11:08:10 AM
Is there already a demo of a portal with "Curve"???
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Eliana Tamerin on October 10, 2009, 11:11:10 AM
Coming soon™. :P
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Antechinus on October 10, 2009, 04:37:35 PM
Yep. Several portals will have Curve demos very soon. :)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Alex - A2Hosting on October 10, 2009, 04:44:36 PM
Simpleportal.

Just my general fav :)

I don't like TinyPortal or the TinyPortal community.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Arantor on October 10, 2009, 04:45:29 PM
I don't like TinyPortal or the TinyPortal community.

Can I ask why?
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: bloc on October 10, 2009, 06:21:59 PM
Is there already a demo of a portal with "Curve"???

Yes, it is. TinyPortal v1.0 beta 5 is currently in testing and it looks like this running on SMF 2.0 RC2:

http://demosites.tinyportal.net/index.php
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Arantor on October 10, 2009, 06:23:05 PM
Very nice :) Doesn't like that the SM introductory post has no avatar but otherwise, looking sharp :)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Fussilet on October 10, 2009, 06:25:52 PM
Dear Bloc, We agog are waiting...  ;)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Eliana Tamerin on October 12, 2009, 08:47:53 AM
Well, I updated my Curve site with the 2.3.1 beta. The patch should be out soon, but until then, feel free to see Curve + SP here: http://beta.devira.info/dev/index.php
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Jerry on October 12, 2009, 08:52:01 AM
nice, I've been waiting for the patch :) Really like using SimplePortal, but have been waiting out on using it again because of the patch.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: kai920 on October 12, 2009, 11:46:42 AM
Well, I updated my Curve site with the 2.3.1 beta. The patch should be out soon, but until then, feel free to see Curve + SP here: http://beta.devira.info/dev/index.php

Very nice.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Nibogo on October 12, 2009, 11:56:07 AM
I prefer SimplePortal because it's really easy to use and I don't like TP because it's too heavy 
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Sabre™ on October 13, 2009, 01:22:35 AM
Is there already a demo of a portal with "Curve"???

Yes, it is. TinyPortal v1.0 beta 5 is currently in testing and it looks like this running on SMF 2.0 RC2:

http://demosites.tinyportal.net/index.php

Very nice Bloc :)
I and many others cannot wait to get into it, and get everything over to smf2.
But as they say 'Patience is a virtue' ;)
Keep doing your thing brother, it is very much appreciated :)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Eliana Tamerin on October 13, 2009, 11:02:26 AM
TP is looking better and better. It's come a long way from the old 0.8 releases I found several years ago. ;)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: bloc on October 13, 2009, 12:07:55 PM
TP is looking better and better. It's come a long way from the old 0.8 releases I found several years ago. ;)

Thanks. :) I always been slow on the development side of it, theme stuff have more been my interest field..but TP has slowly become useful in its own right. As many things, it started as a need for own site lmao.

And of course its great to see other portal mods emerge now, SimplePortal being the most prominent recently. ;D I remember a few others that have come and gone. The very first SP was quite another script i think? Then it was YAP a little while, and also MyIBPortal for SMF, which inspired me, but faded too soon. All these were mods, or working within SMF, which i always thought was the best approach.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: goldsky on October 19, 2009, 03:02:05 PM
So guys,
A good installer always have a good uninstaller.
Which one is better?

I need to find better choice. The issue is I have many mods installed. I dropped my interest on eZPortal.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Minare on October 19, 2009, 04:33:11 PM
So guys,
A good installer always have a good uninstaller.
Which one is better?

I need to find better choice. The issue is I have many mods installed. I dropped my interest on eZPortal.

Whichever suits your needs.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: SN50 on October 20, 2009, 09:17:19 PM
Defiantly Simple Portal... It provides many more features!
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Antechinus on October 20, 2009, 09:38:38 PM
roflmao. You obviously haven't looked at TP in detail. Whatever arguments you can make in favour of SP that is not one of them.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Kimmen on October 29, 2009, 06:23:23 PM
I have not tried out SP, but i just wanted to comment something, i read that there was a complaint about the TP staff being late to answer and that their answers was not helpful enough. Well, my experience is that TP does take care of its members and even if i have to wait for help, i still get it in the end. It always works out. Just wanted to compliment the staff on their work because i am really satisfied with them.


Greets
Kimmen
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: dimdom on October 30, 2009, 07:44:40 AM
You can not compare these two portals. Tiny Portal has options that Simple Portal hasnt (yet). I am talking about the CMS part of these portals that means articles.

I do like the modern and refreshing look of simple portal but I rely on the depth of functions and different configurations that TP provides.

I dont like that it is still beta and not compatible with the new SMF beta.

I dont like that you can not upgrade to the newest version through an easy way (talking about TP now).


As an overall I would like to have the TP machine with the look of SP.

And a big plus to SP for their beautiful shoutbox. :)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Eliana Tamerin on October 30, 2009, 09:47:44 AM
What options does TP have that you think prevents you from comparing?

It's not very productive to say that they can't be compared. You seem to be using the Apples vs Oranges defense here. Well, in that case: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=apples+oranges
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: dimdom on October 30, 2009, 10:18:56 AM
Quote
I am talking about the CMS part of these portals that means articles.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Arantor on October 30, 2009, 10:22:28 AM
Doesn't SP 2.3 have articles?
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: dimdom on October 30, 2009, 10:25:01 AM
In the form of an html editor, not depended from the SMF forum structure, no, I dont think so. At least one month ago that I ve tested SP, there was no such feature...
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: [SiNaN] on October 30, 2009, 11:02:33 AM
If you mean custom pages/actions -since TP uses articles to achieve this- SP 2.3 has that as Custom Pages feature, which allows you to create BBC, HTML and PHP pages on ?page={page_name|page_id}. If you really mean articles; at the time I coded SP 2.0, I didn't see a need for separate articles since they would have existed in forum, which will have comments and poll stuff already there. It will probably have forum-independent articles in the next major release though.

BTW, your front page looks cool really. Good work with that.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: dimdom on October 30, 2009, 11:16:40 AM
Quote
It will probably have forum-independent articles in the next major release though.

That will make it a fully functional portal system.


Glad you like my site. :)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: bloc on October 30, 2009, 01:17:44 PM
You can not compare these two portals. Tiny Portal has options that Simple Portal hasnt (yet). I am talking about the CMS part of these portals that means articles.

I do like the modern and refreshing look of simple portal but I rely on the depth of functions and different configurations that TP provides.

I dont like that it is still beta and not compatible with the new SMF beta.

I dont like that you can not upgrade to the newest version through an easy way (talking about TP now).


As an overall I would like to have the TP machine with the look of SP.

And a big plus to SP for their beautiful shoutbox. :)

Looks depends on the theme really, SP.net has a beautiful theme by dzinerStudio, theres no doubt about that. As your own theme too of course. :)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Mick. on October 30, 2009, 07:59:41 PM
I use both TP & SP in several of my websites.   Im a TP man ;D
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: dkharp on December 03, 2009, 04:26:30 AM
I have used TP Since day one. The support has been second to none. They encourage users to get
involved and have always been nice. Bloc and Ichbin don't have the big head asshole mentality that I hate to say have seen here at times toward newbies.

There is nothing that TP cant do that any other portal system does. I have even a drop down
site map with a little java script that had nothing to do with TP. However, thanks to there help it's up. I asked the same question over here and over at  ####. I got no reply what so ever on the drop down left side site map I have. www.36thid.com (http://www.36thid.com)

I  really like SMF and words can not express thank you enough for  the hard work over here. I proudly display SMF credits on the bottom of my forum.

Not once have I ever been pressured to donate. Not once have I ever not had a post go unanswered over there.


Being that the portal mods are free along with SMF they are all good.  ;D
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Eliana Tamerin on December 03, 2009, 10:23:12 AM
Just a question dkharp, have you tried any other portal systems? I can see what you're saying, but this isn't really a place for pure reviews, it's more of a comparison. And thus my question, do you have any other portal experience to compare it to?
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: dkharp on December 03, 2009, 01:07:23 PM
Sure I have Eliana Tamerin. When I first started using SMF I was using SP based upon mod stats. I really liked the way you can integrate Sp with a html based website out of box or use it as a complete standalone functioning website to give it that perfected matching look but TP can too..........and you can do the same with TP by pointing your home button to an external link


and


 In the end, I had to learn by way of lots of coffee and missed episodes of HOUSE.. :-[  The First thing and most important thing is articles and article layout ability. Your side blocks and such get second and or even third look. Other than that they both are compatible with each other far as functions and the ability to manipulate with php code,html...  for blocks. As with any other php base system.

O' and yes TP does have a built in Shout Box and has for sometime.

TP is my choice.  But as I said they are both good.




Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: L'AltroWeb on December 27, 2009, 09:58:19 AM
I use tinyportal in my site and i like it (especially for download area).
I've test also portamx (great portal but a.t.m. isn't present a real download area) and simpleportal but after a request to delete my account (http://simpleportal.net/index.php?topic=576.msg17273#msg17273) from their site (rejected without any valid reason) i don't want never more use it.
IMHO, tinyportal, is the plus complete smf mod portal (only one problem: require theme customization).
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: .Vapor on December 28, 2009, 08:49:36 PM
They are both great additions but i have been using Simpleportal...since tp isnt updated as much.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: z_dane on January 13, 2010, 07:06:51 AM
From the previous owner of my site, we use tp but when i take over i tried ezportal , sp & tp. At the end my conclusion sm is the best.

ezportal - easiest but bad looking
tp - most power but complicated
sp - easier then tp plus faster & beautiful then tp
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: robbie93 on January 24, 2010, 06:00:49 PM
smf curve in my opinion has made the portal system useless,  if you use left and right blocks on the curve theme the forum is soooo skinny it looks ridiculous and changing the width of the blocks makes no difference at all.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Gurbet_42 on January 24, 2010, 06:40:38 PM
smf curve in my opinion has made the portal system useless,  if you use left and right blocks on the curve theme the forum is soooo skinny it looks ridiculous and changing the width of the blocks makes no difference at all.

Are not agree with you, seems Curve and Simple Portal is beautiful.Look at my website  here (http://www.goynem.de)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: robbie93 on January 24, 2010, 07:38:33 PM
Your site looks beautiful Gurbet_1907 well done  ;D but i noticed that you don't have the left and right blocks active on your board index itself,  which is what i was talking about,  if you have these enabled on the board index it makes it look skinny - to skinny and not good at all,  you have them enabled on the home page but not the forum...   
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: IchBin™ on January 25, 2010, 12:15:53 AM
Well that is simple enough to change the width of Curve to solve that robbie93.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: robbie93 on January 25, 2010, 01:26:42 PM
how would you do that IchBin? do you mean make the width of the forum %100?
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Mick. on January 25, 2010, 09:22:05 PM
how would you do that IchBin? do you mean make the width of the forum %100?

Either that in admin, "Current Theme"  or if you want to get rid of the "Blue" on the sides of the forum,

In the .css file  find:

Code: [Select]
/* Set a fontsize that will look the same in all browsers. */
body
{
background: #E9EEF2 url(../images/theme/backdrop.png) repeat-x;
font: 78%/130% verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif;
margin: 0 auto;
padding: 15px 5%;
}

and change  5px to   0px or 1px.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: robbie93 on January 26, 2010, 11:07:54 PM
Do you mean style.css Blue?  8) okies... I will try....  8) ( dont think that code is in there though )
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Mick. on January 26, 2010, 11:15:50 PM
Do you mean style.css Blue?  8) okies... I will try....  8) ( dont think that code is in there though )

Yes, at the very top.   That will minimize the "blue" back ground on the sides of the website in your default theme.   Press F5 after done to refresh the page.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Mick. on January 26, 2010, 11:16:53 PM
Do you mean style.css Blue?  8) okies... I will try....  8) ( dont think that code is in there though )

Are you using RC2?
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: robbie93 on January 27, 2010, 04:23:36 PM
yep RC2 on a test site I will check it out when I have time thanks. when the forum is at 100% though the blocks make it really skinny heres an example  http://www.robbie93andhotchildxox.com/test/index.php?PHPSESSID=010b63024e66e90b8bcfef780549995d&action=arcade

I see most people are using just one side block with the curve,  I think one side blocks looks a little off balance and prefer to use two,  but as you can see with the curve design it looks odd.. although we are using simple portal on an RC2 test,  something maybe tp can improve on in there future release maybe,  if that is at all possible. 

If you look at a similar theme using SMF 1.1.11 here http://robbie93andhotchildxox.net/index.php?action=arcade

you can see why we have yet to ' upgrade' to SMF2 as it where...  we think that the SMF 1 version looks a lot better than the new curve version in RC2 ...  the curve is a better core theme if you don't use a portal,  when you use one you run into these probs...  we have been waiting for tp to come out for SMF2 in the hope that somehow they will fix this problem ,  if it is fixable,  and we prefer tp than sp,  but I don't think this problem is a portal problem more than a clash between the curve and the use of left and right blocks.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: feline on January 27, 2010, 05:48:37 PM
For SMF 2.0, there are more than TinyPortal and SimplePortal.
And PortaMx is one of the portals, the specially assembled for the Curve Theme designed. Perhaps this is an alternative?

Fel
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: robbie93 on January 27, 2010, 07:35:55 PM
Hi Fel,  thanks for your input, I will give PortaMx a try when I have time but at the moment we like TP the best and are awaiting there release so we can test it on RC2 and see if we still have the same problems as we have had with SP  :D but there is no rush atm as we are still using SMF 1 anyway,  thanks again.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: rd on January 29, 2010, 07:53:42 AM
I like SP and I am running it in my forum.

I used TP and I didn't like it. I am planning on testing out eZ portal in my new website.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Kindred on January 30, 2010, 07:48:53 PM
hmmm... I use EZportal on a site with Curve and curve-based themes.
I think it looks fine.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Deaks on January 30, 2010, 09:23:19 PM
I think the results are quite interesting, I feel marketing ploy on SP now
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Snailx on February 04, 2010, 08:46:43 AM
i use and recomend adkportal xD so i say "other"
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Arantor on February 04, 2010, 08:48:08 AM
You mean the one that hasn't even been approved on the SMF mod site yet?

(It was floating around before I quit the team last month.)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: LC on February 04, 2010, 08:49:53 AM
Simpleportal.  :D
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: adbrad on February 04, 2010, 08:59:24 AM
simple portal

never tried tinyportal but may give it a shot when it comes out for 2.0
mind dreamportal looks quite interesting
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: ~DS~ on February 04, 2010, 10:52:50 AM
...and the portal war raged on...
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: WillyP on March 09, 2010, 09:33:53 AM
This is really kind of pointless... It would be nice if someone could make a chart or something comparing the features of each, in an objective manner.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Kindred on March 09, 2010, 09:49:52 AM
instead of complaining about it, why don't you do just that? :D
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: WillyP on March 09, 2010, 10:01:09 AM
Ok, I will. I've only used Tiny Portal, though, so it might be a bit biased.  ;)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Sabre™ on March 09, 2010, 10:52:50 AM
I also plan to test each of the portals available, and strip them all, taking the pros of each to make my own.
I will release the doc labelled the same as the name ... "Sabres Truly Original Literature Embracing Naturalism"
Or in short form, the  "S T O L E N" portal. :D lol ;)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Sharb8 on March 11, 2010, 02:04:49 AM
I like tinyportal
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: laetabi on March 11, 2010, 02:19:39 AM
SimplePortal. No hassle upgrades, Always latest SMF version availability, Great support.

And it can do just about anything you want it too out of the box. Best mod for SMF by a mile.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Andy1122 on March 26, 2010, 08:23:09 PM
Another one for .... Simple Portal   :)

It is way simplier to use.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Nitram on April 09, 2010, 12:30:43 PM
SimplePortal for me. Tinyportal doesn't compatible with 2.0 versions yet.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Arantor on April 09, 2010, 01:18:38 PM
SimplePortal for me. Tinyportal doesn't compatible with 2.0 versions yet.

TinyPortal 1.0b5 is out which is...
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Nitram on April 09, 2010, 01:53:34 PM
Oh, I didn't know that. Thanks, but I stay with SimplePortal. ;)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Sabre™ on April 09, 2010, 04:10:03 PM
TinyPortal 1.0b5 is out which is...

Ha! I didn't even know that myself.
While waiting for that release, I've been testing all of the others and it has been very interesting.
But as it goes, I've tried the rest, now I'll try the best!! :D
Thanks or the update Arantor lol
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Andy1122 on May 17, 2010, 08:14:05 PM
Oh, I didn't know that. Thanks, but I stay with SimplePortal. ;)

Good choice ... stay with it.  I've tried a couple of the others but  will always go for SP anytime. It is way easier and also easy to customize than a lot of the rest (... no names mentioned) ;)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Succubus Evaligan on May 21, 2010, 09:55:54 AM
Simple Portal, because is very simple and easy for use. ;D
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Jacob F on May 21, 2010, 12:19:21 PM
I like SimplePortal over TinyPortal, but I like EzPortal over SimplePortal.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Nitram on May 24, 2010, 02:52:03 PM
DreamPortal looks good too, but I will use SimplePortal always. :)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: aggelioforos on June 04, 2010, 05:34:04 AM
I haven't used tiny portal unforunately

I am using only Simple Portal and I can tell you one thing.

Simple Portal Rocks! Very easy to use, much features that I needed and greek language support!

Thanks Simple Portal! :) :) :)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Jntg4 on June 04, 2010, 09:08:13 AM
I like EzPortal, but have t move away from it as my next site is a forum host and EzPortal isn't allowed to be on any multiforums not run by vbgamer45.  I prefer TP, but am using SP for this one.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Phoestre on June 05, 2010, 01:40:51 PM
SimplePortal rulez.. I used SP, TP, PortaMX and ezPortal. I must say from all those if you want something powerfull but yet fast(I had my fastest page loading experience with PortaMX) go for PortaMX. However the main feature I was in need of is provided by SimplePortal, the ability to add topics(as "articles") to mainpage. Not just a simple recent topics feature but the ability to add topics selectively. I think other features are mostly same in PortaMX and SimplePortal, feature was SimplePortal but stability and speed wise PortaMX I think.
To summarize: Simple Portal = PortaMX > Tiny Portal = ezPortal
I'm not sure about ADK portal so its better that I do not comment about it.

Althought, any moment that wordpress gets full integration support or a WP-like portal comes out, time for switch ;)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: feline on June 05, 2010, 01:52:55 PM
You have to wait for the next major release of PortaMx ...  ;D

Fel
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: bloc on June 05, 2010, 02:04:15 PM
Althought, any moment that wordpress gets full integration support or a WP-like portal comes out, time for switch ;)

Out of curiosity - how will such a WP-like portal look like?
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Phoestre on June 06, 2010, 04:00:52 PM
You have to wait for the next major release of PortaMx ...  ;D

Fel

You gonna make me switch the portals? I'm always open for new stuff lol.
If you put the article feature like in simple portal, it would be cool if you add the ability to cut the article at where you want(by putting a bbcode or something like that) so you don't get limited by the global char limit, some need a longer overview text some need shorter. Yeah I know thats not the feature requests board but I just wanted to let you know :)

Althought, any moment that wordpress gets full integration support or a WP-like portal comes out, time for switch ;)

Out of curiosity - how will such a WP-like portal look like?

I was referring to a portal mod or script which would have an article system like wordpress but using SMF as the discussion place instead of comments and when you click "read the rest" button you go to the original topic, topics in forums may be sent to the portal homepage with a click etc.. The look of portal and forum don't need to match each other as I'm always up for some customization ;) Of course user databases and such stuff needs to be same, it just that you have a home page like wordpress's main page.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: feline on June 06, 2010, 05:12:04 PM
If you put the article feature like in simple portal, it would be cool if you add the ability to cut the article at where you want(by putting a bbcode or something like that) so you don't get limited by the global char limit, some need a longer overview text some need shorter.
We will make a article/categorie system in which you can make html articles (with the html editor) and also any other article (BBC/Script/php). The articles can be ordered into categories. You can show articles or categories on request and you can articles and categories show on the frontpage in various formats. we have a perfect teaser to shorten any article, so we don't use a separate intro. Good enough for you?  :D

Fel
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Eliana Tamerin on June 06, 2010, 08:02:56 PM
If you put the article feature like in simple portal, it would be cool if you add the ability to cut the article at where you want(by putting a bbcode or something like that) so you don't get limited by the global char limit, some need a longer overview text some need shorter.
We will make a article/categorie system in which you can make html articles (with the html editor) and also any other article (BBC/Script/php). The articles can be ordered into categories. You can show articles or categories on request and you can articles and categories show on the frontpage in various formats. we have a perfect teaser to shorten any article, so we don't use a separate intro. Good enough for you?  :D

Fel

FYI, SimplePortal's article system, currently, is driven off selected topics from the forum, not separate html/bbc/php articles. Our next version plans to introduce such a system, but without removing the forum-based articles, so users will have their choice of creating their own pages, or using an existing topic as an article. The standard categorization, comments, and portal blocks will be included, of course.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: feline on June 07, 2010, 05:23:04 AM
FYI, SimplePortal's article system, currently, is driven off selected topics from the forum, not separate html/bbc/php articles.
We do not talk about such mundane things as displaying a forum post on the frontpage, which is already possible today, and will develop further in the next version.
Quote from: Eliana Tamerin
Our next version plans to introduce such a system
One more part they are duplicated from Portamx?  ;D

Fel
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Antechinus on June 07, 2010, 06:32:43 AM
Well, Porta doesn't actually have it yet and TP has had it for ages, as you would know since you worked on TP ;)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: feline on June 07, 2010, 07:31:41 AM
I want to lead any discussion which portal has more or less functions, anyone can find out for themselves.

Fel
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Kindred on June 07, 2010, 08:33:25 AM
for articles, I use EZPortal plus vbgamer's SMF Articles mod....  :P
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Phoestre on June 07, 2010, 09:30:36 AM
Wow what a nice discussion I just flamed lol.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Eliana Tamerin on June 07, 2010, 09:43:02 AM
FYI, SimplePortal's article system, currently, is driven off selected topics from the forum, not separate html/bbc/php articles.
We do not talk about such mundane things as displaying a forum post on the frontpage, which is already possible today, and will develop further in the next version.

Perhaps it is mundane, though our users seem to like it.

Quote from: Eliana Tamerin
Our next version plans to introduce such a system
One more part they are duplicated from Portamx?  ;D

Fel

One more feature request that's been on the books since SimplePortal 2.0 was released. Which, I believe, was long before PortaMX was.

Semantics, anyways. Thanks for your concern, though.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: IchBin™ on June 14, 2010, 02:25:45 PM
Quote from: Eliana Tamerin
Our next version plans to introduce such a system
One more part they are duplicated from Portamx?  ;D

Fel

One more feature request that's been on the books since SimplePortal 2.0 was released. Which, I believe, was long before PortaMX was.

Semantics, anyways. Thanks for your concern, though.

Feline, perhaps you mean the features that you duplicated from TP? From my last look at your portal, you don't have hardly anything over TP other than a few whistles, which honestly I remember many of them being discussed at TP while you were around, but not implemented. And before you go praising your caching, just know that caching is not innovative. It's a necessary feature that TP has yet to implement, but we are talking innovation of features. Don't go acting like you are the innovator around here. Those of us who have been around here know who that truly is (Bloc) in the portal arena. Your constant berating of other portals and touting of OOP is really just tiresome.  With Bloc recent announcement closing of the TP site, I have asked myself where I would go and if I maybe wanted to look at supporting another portal. It is simply because of your "holier than thou" attitude that I wouldn't even touch PortaMx. The folks at Simple Portal are top notch. You don't see them going around talking trash about other portals. You should take a lesson from them, and Bloc for that matter.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Crip on June 14, 2010, 02:45:14 PM
I echo ' that B0ss!
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: MrMorph on June 14, 2010, 03:21:43 PM
Bravo, well said  8)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: feline on June 15, 2010, 07:36:51 AM
Feline, perhaps you mean the features that you duplicated from TP?
Which features you mean?

Fel
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Aaron7pm on June 15, 2010, 11:24:28 AM
Simple Portal, hands down, its way easier to customize, and its easier to use.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Xarcell on June 15, 2010, 06:55:16 PM
Feline, perhaps you mean the features that you duplicated from TP?
Which features you mean?

Fel

How about panels, frontpage, collapsible blocks, collapsible panels, and blocks that can appear anywhere? How about the type of preset blocks? TP was the first to do it. Even though SP was around before TP, TP was the first to implement the features mentioned. Heck, you even copied alot of the terminology used for TP. I grow tired of you running your mouth as if your the one who invented it all. If you didn't say anything, I wouldn't say anything either as I'm all for competitive portals. But since you want to boost and bash every other portal, I feel impaled to speak up.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Eliana Tamerin on June 15, 2010, 09:47:45 PM
Even though SP was around before TP

Have to correct you, though. Even though there was a portal called Simple Portal around before TP was conceived, SimplePortal, as created by [SiNaN], has only been around since February of 2008. TinyPortal's been around much longer than that.

Thanks for the compliment, but it's ill deserved. TP's the real Portal dinosaur here.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Kindred on June 15, 2010, 10:13:08 PM
Ok, Xarcell, Feline... that's enough please.

(and Xarcell, you feel impaled?   OUCH!)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Sabre™ on June 15, 2010, 10:35:24 PM
(and Xarcell, you feel impaled?   OUCH!)

lmao
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Eliana Tamerin on June 15, 2010, 11:31:37 PM
(and Xarcell, you feel impaled?   OUCH!)

He had a run in with Vlad the Psychiatrist. I guess it's some new therapy they're trying.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: feline on June 16, 2010, 07:01:13 AM
Ok, Xarcell, Feline... that's enough please.
You are right, but it should not be, it is assumed PortaMx constantly, we would use code from TP. That will not accept without comment.

Fel
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Kindred on June 16, 2010, 08:35:16 AM
Feline...  understood...   All 4 portal systems have the pluses and minuses, but all 4 are well coded and well done.

(and to detractors of any one...   there are certain concepts which are somewhat universal in the portal design and all portals will essentially use the same or, at least similar, methods)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: sharks on June 16, 2010, 09:45:57 AM
I used to love TinyPortal, and in fact it used to be the best and only portal directly integrating and made only for SMF at one time, but recently Simpleportal has taken over as the best option, simply because it seems like Bloc (the guy who makes TinyPortal) has dropped or stopped development of TP. There have been many reports of hacking and errors with TP, so i would go with Simpleportal as it's the latest and most up to date portal mod for SMF.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Kindred on June 16, 2010, 11:41:56 AM
Sharks,

both EZportal and PortaMX are also up-to-date and supported portal systems...
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: sharks on June 16, 2010, 01:40:40 PM
Thanks for the info,  Kindred. I will check these other 2 as well. :) Having a choice is always the best option!
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: bloc on June 16, 2010, 02:18:33 PM
I used to love TinyPortal, and in fact it used to be the best and only portal directly integrating and made only for SMF at one time, but recently Simpleportal has taken over as the best option, simply because it seems like Bloc (the guy who makes TinyPortal) has dropped or stopped development of TP. There have been many reports of hacking and errors with TP, so i would go with Simpleportal as it's the latest and most up to date portal mod for SMF.

Hacking? Thats news to me - apart from the shoutbox "hack", which was a CSS exploit - TP is quite safe as it is I believe.

But you are partly right on myself "dropping" of TP - I have no real drive for it anymore. BUT - many people regard as quite good as it is, and thats why I will keep it here and updated as SMF changes and errors turn up. Since its also have so many features(as many have pointed out as the reason, its too complex lol) it also feel "done" to me. Whats left to do with it? TP Modules never got off the ground really and (as some also pointed out) there are quite a few SMF mods that do what current TP modules do anyway.

I might pursue some mod ideas I have, that strays into the area of portals too, but I see no reason to create just another portal mod, or indeed make TP even more complex that it is. Kudos for everyone supporting it though - that makes me and the TP team proud to have persevered with it for so many years. :) And best wishes for all that have new ideas and attempts in that direction now.

Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: sharks on June 16, 2010, 04:02:46 PM
Don't get me wrong, Bloc. As far as i am concerned, you are a true Hero of SMF and without you, i think many things, including the default SMF themes would have looked a bit different. :) But like you say, TP has indeed become quite complex, but its the functionality that matters at the end. My other primary concern, which i haven't voiced, is the added "weight" that TP forces on the server when installed. It nearly doubles or triples the number of queries in many parts of the forum. I used to have it installed on one of my big forums and i was forced to upgrade to VPN. Lol. But i guess if you slim it down a bit. Oh, i just got a fantastic idea! Why not release a TP Lite?! That way, you just make it a small core version of the existing TP and include only the most basic functionality in it. Like myself, i need it only for the blog system with some pages, which places the posts and comments from within the forum on the front page. That's the basic feature of a portal. And if you include just that, maybe there won't be as many queries and it will become more server-friendly on bigger forums. What do you think?

The way i see things, is that Simpleportal is going to go the same way as TP did in a few years or less. It's not going to be simple anymore as development progresses and more features are added. So, i think having trimmed down version of a portal along with the full blown version should be available, depending on the types of forums. Personal/small forums can use the full version and the lite version is mainly for commercial/big forums.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Aaron7pm on June 16, 2010, 04:06:27 PM
TP is great, but its too complex, it gets what you need done, but it requires more work. Thats why SimplePortal is better, you dont need to do much to make a simple or complex portal.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: bloc on June 16, 2010, 06:57:26 PM
Don't get me wrong, Bloc. As far as i am concerned, you are a true Hero of SMF and without you, i think many things, including the default SMF themes would have looked a bit different. :) But like you say, TP has indeed become quite complex, but its the functionality that matters at the end. My other primary concern, which i haven't voiced, is the added "weight" that TP forces on the server when installed. It nearly doubles or triples the number of queries in many parts of the forum. I used to have it installed on one of my big forums and i was forced to upgrade to VPN. Lol. But i guess if you slim it down a bit. Oh, i just got a fantastic idea! Why not release a TP Lite?! That way, you just make it a small core version of the existing TP and include only the most basic functionality in it. Like myself, i need it only for the blog system with some pages, which places the posts and comments from within the forum on the front page. That's the basic feature of a portal. And if you include just that, maybe there won't be as many queries and it will become more server-friendly on bigger forums. What do you think?

The way i see things, is that Simpleportal is going to go the same way as TP did in a few years or less. It's not going to be simple anymore as development progresses and more features are added. So, i think having trimmed down version of a portal along with the full blown version should be available, depending on the types of forums. Personal/small forums can use the full version and the lite version is mainly for commercial/big forums.

Thats perhaps doable..but I have no desire to trim it down, for starters people have always complained about it when I removed features. And frankly..just a frontpage with a SSI function to show latest posts isn't a portal to me. Blocks will always be resource -hungry when it allows users to use PHP code..so right here its hard to keep queries down when everyone wants 20 different blockcodes that aren't optimised when used in conjunction with others.

SMF is optimised. It has sections that do certain things and no more. The queries can be perfetcly matched to the page. TP, and possibly other portals, doesn't or can't be optimised the same way, because it allows the user infinite freedom to add extra code.

Thats why I think pure "portal mods" are not the way, and thats why you might need a VPS just to run a TP installation.TP might be lean in its default state, but once the user starts adding stuff, it goes right up on queries. Caching might help..but how effective is it on custom code? For my part I think special case mods are much better than a do-it-yourself-toolbox like TP is. And thats why I feel its "done" as it is. I have created a complex CMS-like mod..but its too much dependant on what the average user might add, and that are more often than not, will follow the philosophy of "adding in whatever I can"...
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: MrMorph on June 17, 2010, 09:55:12 AM
Feline, did you invent OOP or something ?
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: feline on June 17, 2010, 02:42:54 PM
SMF is optimised. It has sections that do certain things and no more. The queries can be perfetcly matched to the page. TP, and possibly other portals, doesn't or can't be optimised the same way, because it allows the user infinite freedom to add extra code.
PortaMx can ... We have extensive db-query caching for all block, they have db-queries. And with high quality cache trigger, we can break down the cache refresh to block, member group or user, which is of course block type dependent. This caching is also available for customer php blocks.

Fel
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: feline on June 17, 2010, 02:44:12 PM
Feline, did you invent OOP or something ?
PortaMx is programmed in php-OOP with compatibility for php4.

Fel
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: vbgamer45 on June 17, 2010, 02:53:00 PM
I personally can't stand OOP its like following a maze of objects and to figure out how they are defined and what properties they have. You can have a couple objects but if the whole script itself it gets crazy I tried following joomla or IPB I can't get my head around it. That's what I like about SMF I rather have functions in files then have to deal with objects completely. 
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: feline on June 17, 2010, 03:09:39 PM
What is simpler as $this->anyvarname  ;D
You can read/write any variable inside a block like $this->config['title'] without side effect to other identical blocks? I think no ...  ;)

Fel

Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Aaron7pm on June 17, 2010, 03:13:29 PM
What is simpler as $this->anyvarname  ;D
You can read/write any variable inside a block like $this->config['title'] without side effect to other identical blocks? I think no ...  ;)

Fel

Good point, i might switch from SimplePortal to this
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: bloc on June 17, 2010, 03:32:30 PM
SMF is optimised. It has sections that do certain things and no more. The queries can be perfetcly matched to the page. TP, and possibly other portals, doesn't or can't be optimised the same way, because it allows the user infinite freedom to add extra code.
PortaMx can ... We have extensive db-query caching for all block, they have db-queries. And with high quality cache trigger, we can break down the cache refresh to block, member group or user, which is of course block type dependent. This caching is also available for customer php blocks.

Fel

Maybe..but it sounds like an awful lot of smaller cached bits that have to be assembled. Anyways, i am sure much can be achieved, I was more thinking of currently how TP works. Without any caching done.

I personally can't stand OOP its like following a maze of objects and to figure out how they are defined and what properties they have. You can have a couple objects but if the whole script itself it gets crazy I tried following joomla or IPB I can't get my head around it. That's what I like about SMF I rather have functions in files then have to deal with objects completely. 

I have come to see OOP as an advantage, especially if you say, write a mod that defines an "article" class. This class may then be extended to another, more complex article object - but the interface will stay the same through both . And again extend on extended classes..well, the possibilites are limitless. In a small mod I am tinkering with(rather slooow I might add lmao) I have started very small and simple - but by using OOP I can later expand that class without making the original more complex, rather I extend the class for a new type of article.

Reading OOP code is just a matter of getting used to it, nothing more. Inside a class you'll find the functions, variables etc. OOP is a way to collect those functions into closed items. In other words, into objects. ;D
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: feline on June 17, 2010, 04:30:39 PM
Maybe..but it sounds like an awful lot of smaller cached bits that have to be assembled.
No, we use ONE cache entry for a block db-query. The break down is handled in the cache trigger, they works in the background.

Quote from: Bloc
I have started very small and simple - but by using OOP I can later expand that class without making the original more complex, rather I extend the class for a new type of article.
exactly that is the point why we use OOP. It's easy to create a small, fast, expandable and readable code.

Quote from: Bloc
Reading OOP code is just a matter of getting used to it, nothing more. Inside a class you'll find the functions, variables etc. OOP is a way to collect those functions into closed items. In other words, into objects. ;D
That I can't say better ... 100% agree  :)

A little bit more about OOP I have written here: http://portamx.com/board_46.0/

Fel
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: MrMorph on June 21, 2010, 03:31:54 PM
I just cannot see how simply using OOP is 'revolutionary' ...
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: feline on June 22, 2010, 01:29:34 PM
If you close your eyes, you see .... nothing  ;D
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Eliana Tamerin on June 22, 2010, 09:34:46 PM
To be honest, I haven't seen many people take advantage of PortaMX's development hooks when designing new blocks, but rather utilizing the TP-introduced system (which almost all the portal systems use) of a php code snippet. It's a shame that the OOP isn't taken advantage of, but at the same time, I find it somewhat ludicrous to continue emphasizing the OOP structure in marketing if it's not being used. Usually, when something doesn't catch on, the best idea is to sideline that feature from the PR and put something new into the spotlight to capture enthusiasm. 

The OOP coding itself isn't a bad thing, though. I just don't think it's the defining feature that does or could make any Portal shine above another.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Aaron7pm on June 22, 2010, 11:17:44 PM
Yep its not a defining feature, especially because most portal users dont know how to program in OOP or any other PHP for that matter, thats why they come here to ask for help.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: feline on June 23, 2010, 01:35:23 PM
@Eliana Tamerin ..
I will not engage in this discussion. Fact is, the technology offers opportunities with some of the OOP, with procedural programming are not possible. There is not more to say. /EOT/

Fel
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: bloc on June 23, 2010, 03:03:21 PM
I would say: use whats best for the occasion. Not JUST use one or the other..or saying one is superior, because it isn't. Procedural programming is fast and best used in smaller routines or scripts. OOP is best at things that need to expand. Duping one or the other just shows you haven't understood either one's strengths.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Andy1122 on July 02, 2010, 01:53:18 PM
I would say: use whats best for the occasion. Not JUST use one or the other..or saying one is superior, because it isn't. Procedural programming is fast and best used in smaller routines or scripts. OOP is best at things that need to expand. Duping one or the other just shows you haven't understood either one's strengths.

... supported !

All available SMF portals are wonderful with various great functionalities ... so far, some are just more suited for each and everyone's forum purposes - hence the difference. That means the coders have to be on top of their games or else ....

For now, I am with SP and have created a monster out of it on my forum but you never know ... one piece of advice to our coders, make them (the customized data) switch-able from one portal to the other (if possible). That will make switching easier and faster.


Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: cicka on July 02, 2010, 02:20:59 PM
I support Simple Portal too. It is a very nice portal that fits and integrates with Smf very smoothly.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Kindred on July 02, 2010, 03:49:06 PM
Andy, why would they do that? The goal of the authors is to build their own portal, not make something that encourages other to switch to another one.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Phoestre on July 02, 2010, 04:50:28 PM
...

For now, I am with SP and have created a monster out of it on my forum but you never know ... one piece of advice to our coders, make them (the customized data) switch-able from one portal to the other (if possible). That will make switching easier and faster.

Which will also make everything more complicated.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Eliana Tamerin on July 02, 2010, 07:30:11 PM
I would say: use whats best for the occasion. Not JUST use one or the other..or saying one is superior, because it isn't. Procedural programming is fast and best used in smaller routines or scripts. OOP is best at things that need to expand. Duping one or the other just shows you haven't understood either one's strengths.

... supported !

All available SMF portals are wonderful with various great functionalities ... so far, some are just more suited for each and everyone's forum purposes - hence the difference. That means the coders have to be on top of their games or else ....

For now, I am with SP and have created a monster out of it on my forum but you never know ... one piece of advice to our coders, make them (the customized data) switch-able from one portal to the other (if possible). That will make switching easier and faster.

On a similar subject, Bloc and I once talked in the hopes of making blocks compatible between portals (which would be far more advantageous than making the content "switch-able"). We tentatively settled on a standard, something that our portals could both include into future versions. And that was all that came out of it, SP decided to go in a different direction with blocks, and I guess TP had a bigger priority in getting TP compatible with SMF 2.x.

If it was that difficult to get two portals to get on the same page with blocks, imagine how difficult it would be to get all portals on the same page with content. Not to mention, not all portals have the same blocks, included or community created. What kinds of content should the portal save, it's own blocks or a user-created block as well? How about the actual data, some portals display more data on certain blocks than others, data which may or may not already be generated by SMF. Should SP be responsible for generating data that TP uses in its blocks, but SP does not, in the interest in being cross-compatible? What about SP's forum-based articles, there's no allegory in the other portals, how would that translate across? PortaMX's block-in-block options are automatic, while SP's version is manual, how do you change from PortaMX to SP without losing that setup?

There are way too many variables to make all the data cross-compatible with other portals. The best you could hope for is portal-specific converters, but those take development efforts away from feature innovation and bug fixing, so they're not a high priority for most portals.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: gvhools on December 01, 2010, 02:42:11 PM
its so simply....Simply Portal..!!!
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: byproduct on December 30, 2010, 04:25:26 AM
sounds like just as good to close your eyes and pick,,, for the average person


Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: NanoSector on December 30, 2010, 05:41:07 AM
Adk Portal :)

It has a download system included, which I like. And it installs steamlessly with lots of other mods, unlike the other's.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: WillyP on December 31, 2010, 09:47:51 AM
sounds like just as good to close your eyes and pick,,, for the average person

There is certainly some validity to that, as there is no truly neutral source of comparison.  And even if there were, what really counts are the subjective qualities.  I suspect a list of features would show the portals are very similar. 

If you have the spare time, I would suggest setting up several test installations and install a different portal on each, see which one suits your needs best.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: ishy on January 04, 2011, 07:55:15 AM
I vastly prefer SimplePortal. I had a lot of problems with TinyPortal integrating with other mods, and I don't think ADK Portal went far enough to integrate within the forum. I've never had any issues with SimplePortal, and it's easy to pop blocks in and rearrange them, and the number of options make it easy to do just about anything with it.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: NanoSector on January 13, 2011, 12:32:10 PM
I have a  forum  smf   that is   but i  used  the  default  theme  to  create a  new theme off that  here is the url    http://www.chainsawtractorforum.com    now there are some things i would like to add to this  some mods   but i  have the   2.3.3   simple portal  installed but im not got it  applied  yet  im waiting to see if  it just applies to the core theme   and if so how to get it  applied to the  theme im using   can someone help me on this   ?

thanks 
calvin
This is...not the right topic?
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: netshaq on January 16, 2011, 03:05:53 PM
I use ezportal.com but I haven't tried sp or tp ..

1/17 uodate

I just installed sp on test site and 1 big difference
I like about sp is you are able to select no title / no body
so you don't get a boxed looking site
my sp test site
http://netshaq.com/sportal/index.php
ezportal test site
http://netshaq.com/portal/index.php

ty
steve


Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: eyo on January 17, 2011, 01:47:36 AM
tried simple and ezportal, wasn't satisfied with both
looking at tinyportal it seems much more cms-like, but support in their site looks very confusing and cryptic
anyway most if not all portal software look the same no matter what you prefer.

simpleportal - looks great and simple, easy to use great support and lots of people sharing codes and what not
ezportal - great if you have vbgamers mods and want no problems with them,  also if you dont mind really blocky looking blocks with no chance of any extra bells and whistles
tinyportal seems to work in the middle of both, it has support for alot of vbgamers and other dev mods (but not all), highly customizable(if you can code and style)  and looks pretty in a no-nonsense, professional way.

I like simpleportal but it looks too much like it's for kids and gamers, tiny if you want to be taken more seriously :), ezportal well, if you want your mods to run since  he made both.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: mrtarkhan on January 18, 2011, 06:03:09 PM
both are good but SP have good features that TP don't have and TP have good features that SP don't have !

but i like simy portal more  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: -=[Vyorel]=- on January 25, 2011, 04:25:47 PM
Simple Portal.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: neoxes on June 29, 2012, 06:44:25 PM
Someone can explain me the differences between tiny and simple portal? Only articles system?
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Fog on July 07, 2012, 01:30:07 AM
Stand Alone Feature Rocks and if you know how to create a page as your stand alone, you're steps ahead most forums.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: kachan64 on July 17, 2012, 08:23:58 AM
Out of Dream, ADK, Tiny and Simple I like Simple, because it's simply give you the best features and easy and simple to install.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: hitsme on January 28, 2015, 09:20:16 PM
why don't i find simple portal by Administration Center » Package Manager » Download Packages browse Simple Machines Third-party Mod Site?
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Kindred on January 28, 2015, 09:51:47 PM
Download it from the mid site directly instead of using the package server... It's more likely to succeed and gives you a backup copy of the mod on your computer, just in case.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: hitsme on January 28, 2015, 10:56:57 PM
i downloaded sp & uploaded clicked install now till line/file 17 = TYPE= Execute Modification Description= Test successful after that  TYPE= Extract File Description= blank is that the way it should be? or something went wrong
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Kindred on January 28, 2015, 11:09:00 PM
This is not really a support thread... But yes
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: hitsme on January 28, 2015, 11:17:27 PM
Thanks
This is not really a support thread... But yes
i'm quite lost i got here through Google search, i wish there would be waze directing me on this forum that has so maany boards
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Arantor on January 29, 2015, 08:07:25 AM
Well, from the page you downloaded SP from, there's a 'Support and comments for this mod' link which takes you directly to the dedicated thread on SP, plus there's simpleportal.net for more complex issues.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: lady_l on April 12, 2015, 11:18:01 PM
I have used TP since 2007. I like it very much, but at present there is very limited documentation -- practically none -- on their website. It would be really helpful for people who recently upgraded. to have some explanation of new features and how to use them. The little documentation available is in an archive on their site and was written in 2006 for an early version of TP and some pages and links within it come up blank.  I hate posting basic questions on their forum, although they are usually really nice to me, but all the same those questions must bore the ****** out of the regulars and it seems a waste of time to answer over and over.

So very sadly, I must consider switching to another portal.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: lurkalot on October 25, 2015, 09:17:13 AM
I have used TP since 2007. I like it very much, but at present there is very limited documentation -- practically none -- on their website. It would be really helpful for people who recently upgraded. to have some explanation of new features and how to use them. The little documentation available is in an archive on their site and was written in 2006 for an early version of TP and some pages and links within it come up blank.  I hate posting basic questions on their forum, although they are usually really nice to me, but all the same those questions must bore the ****** out of the regulars and it seems a waste of time to answer over and over.

So very sadly, I must consider switching to another portal.

A bit late, sorry. but since taking over the project We're currently updating the documentation site for Tinyportal.  You can find it here,  http://www.tinyportal.net/docs/index.php
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Ken. on October 25, 2015, 01:34:47 PM
Thanks for that lurkalot!

+1 ... Yes, check out our Docs pages, they get better and more relevant every day as we completely overhaul them!  8)
(https://www.simplemachines.org/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tinyportal.net%2Fdocs%2FThemes%2Ftp_docs_theme%2Fimages%2Ftheme%2Flogo.png&hash=f833e2a1bd7b597b2d28d318f8c8ffff) (http://www.tinyportal.net/docs/index.php)

If you see anything amiss as you look them over please let us know (http://www.tinyportal.net/index.php?board=89.0).
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Eliana Tamerin on October 31, 2015, 05:17:43 PM
I have used TP since 2007. I like it very much, but at present there is very limited documentation -- practically none -- on their website. It would be really helpful for people who recently upgraded. to have some explanation of new features and how to use them. The little documentation available is in an archive on their site and was written in 2006 for an early version of TP and some pages and links within it come up blank.  I hate posting basic questions on their forum, although they are usually really nice to me, but all the same those questions must bore the ****** out of the regulars and it seems a waste of time to answer over and over.

So very sadly, I must consider switching to another portal.

A bit late, sorry. but since taking over the project We're currently updating the documentation site for Tinyportal.  You can find it here,  http://www.tinyportal.net/docs/index.php

Congrats on the recent release of TP1.1. Glad to see the old dog still in the game. ;)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: lurkalot on November 01, 2015, 05:55:09 AM

Congrats on the recent release of TP1.1. Glad to see the old dog still in the game. ;)


Thanks.  Yes the "old dog" is still very much in the game, and getting better by the day. ;)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Ken. on November 01, 2015, 08:26:41 AM
We are working on TinyPortal every day, trying to make it even easier to use, and easier to find your way through all the options and features and TP has lots of features! And don't forget that our TinyPortal Docs are getting a complete rebuild and include lots of images to make the Docs topics even easier to understand.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: njtweb on December 03, 2015, 08:06:27 AM
Ezportal worked best for me.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: mirzasuga on December 03, 2015, 10:33:29 AM
i recommend simple portal, because its SIMPLE :)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: njtweb on December 03, 2015, 06:28:25 PM
Anybody got a demo link or site to reference for Simple portal and tiny portal? The images provided on the mods site don't provide any detail of what to expect after install.

Thanks
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: lurkalot on December 03, 2015, 06:37:45 PM
Anybody got a demo link or site to reference for Simple portal and tiny portal? The images provided on the mods site don't provide any detail of what to expect after install.

Thanks

Take a look in my signature for a couple of sites using. Tinyportal
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Shambles on December 03, 2015, 07:03:52 PM
And mine, for SimplePortal
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: mirzasuga on December 07, 2015, 01:00:45 AM
Anybody got a demo link or site to reference for Simple portal and tiny portal? The images provided on the mods site don't provide any detail of what to expect after install.

Thanks
This is using tinyportal hxxp://www.chikan.pl
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: njtweb on December 07, 2015, 06:52:01 AM
I'm now using tinyportal. After putting some time into figuring it all out, I find it's cleaner looking and the chat is better than all of them.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Ken. on December 07, 2015, 08:43:02 AM
My site has been running TinyPortal for over 9 years now, loved it from the very start, still do.  8)

Our FamilyForum (http://www.ourfamilyforum.org/FamilyForum/index.php)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Dylert on March 20, 2016, 03:34:08 PM
I'm using TinyPortal: http://hellasforum.net/
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: forumside on June 06, 2016, 04:38:58 PM
I think TinyPortal is much more professionally done then other portals for SMF.
You can easy compare yourself:
SimplePortal - more then 50 places to modify in source code in 15 different files! Click on parse mod to see:
http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=1104

TinyPortal - 10 replaces in 6 files only! Click on parse mod to see:
http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=97

As more changes is harder to update and support it for long time with other mods!
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Antechinus on June 06, 2016, 05:14:03 PM
Well you can argue the merits of the coding in other ways too. The bottom line is that both work, very well, for a lot of people on a lot of sites, and often with a lot of mods. It comes down to personal preference.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: forumside on June 06, 2016, 06:01:01 PM
Well you can argue the merits of the coding in other ways too. The bottom line is that both work, very well, for a lot of people on a lot of sites, and often with a lot of mods. It comes down to personal preference.

The point is how much time need
1. to learn how to use
2. time to install
3. time to update to new version
4. time to integrate with other mods

Time cost money - so this not just personal preference - it is exact measure.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Antechinus on June 06, 2016, 06:59:57 PM
Oh dear. This is getting serious.

1/ Some people find SP much easier to learn to use than TP. Personally I found TP easy enough, but I'm not everyone. Different minds work in different ways.
2/ It's the same installation process for either package. No real difference, except in edge cases (humungous numbers of mods or whatever).
3/ Ditto.
4/ Ditto.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Kindred on June 06, 2016, 07:15:30 PM
personally, I like EZPortal and find that one the easiest to use. :P
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Antechinus on June 06, 2016, 07:27:45 PM
Gotta say PortaMx is an awesome piece of kit too. I've used that before and liked it a lot. It's like TP on steroids, if you want that sort of thing.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: forumside on June 06, 2016, 07:28:43 PM
Oh dear. This is getting serious.

1/ Some people find SP much easier to learn to use than TP. Personally I found TP easy enough, but I'm not everyone. Different minds work in different ways.
2/ It's the same installation process for either package. No real difference, except in edge cases (humungous numbers of mods or whatever).
3/ Ditto.
4/ Ditto.

Regarding for simple cases I agree with you it same easy story just to click on install button and thats all....
I am speaking about more complicated cases when you need to spent time on development and struggling with bugs and server problems....
Then you will understand the difference....
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Antechinus on June 06, 2016, 07:31:15 PM
Oh I understand the difference alright. You're talking to someone who rewrote half of TP for a custom installation. Most people don't do that though. For most people any of the popular portals will be fine, and they can just select the one they prefer.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: forumside on June 06, 2016, 07:41:17 PM
Oh I understand the difference alright. You're talking to someone who rewrote half of TP for a custom installation. Most people don't do that though. For most people any of the popular portals will be fine, and they can just select the one they prefer.

There is many people which installed more then 3-4 mods on their forums. And after they need to update version - just simple update - will cause them too many problems!
And as more changes are done in SMF source code - there will be more chances for more problems!
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Antechinus on June 06, 2016, 07:45:01 PM
Ok, what I suggest you do then is to search the web for people who are using the wrong portal, and tell them they are doing it wrong. ;)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: forumside on June 06, 2016, 07:46:17 PM
personally, I like EZPortal and find that one the easiest to use. :P

EZPortal is really close for TinyPortal on number of changes in source code - 16 in EZ vs 10 in TP. But TP is still better from this point of view.

Other portals even bad, for example MXPrtal have 46 changes and SimplePortal have 49 changes....
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Antechinus on June 06, 2016, 07:52:06 PM
(https://www.simplemachines.org/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sherv.net%2Fcm%2Femoticons%2Fdrink%2Fpopcorn-and-drink-smiley-emoticon.gif&hash=ebbcb2a2705829c00326ba5f959ad711)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Kindred on June 06, 2016, 08:41:12 PM
Gotta say PortaMx is an awesome piece of kit too. I've used that before and liked it a lot. It's like TP on steroids, if you want that sort of thing.

Portamx is interesting...   It is, however, IMO, extremely and overly complicated
I tried it a few times, and got myself confused. ;)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Antechinus on June 06, 2016, 08:51:00 PM
Like I said, if you want that sort of thing. :D If you don't want the extra functionality, and a lot of people don't, then go ahead and use wotcha like. :)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Gluz on June 09, 2016, 07:40:47 PM
Well, as far a I see them from the inside (because I needed some Portal that allow me to use some of their function in a easy way), some of the main differences are that SP do that many edits in files because it doesn't use hooks as TP. Also from the install files I see that TP have all the Menu, Buttons, Settings and Permissions in it's own file, and SP edit the source files to let SMF handle it as if was part of the core and not from other file.

SP is what I use at the end because the simple way to handle from code and from SMF itself, it's a bit more SMFish than TP, and my MOD is coded that way too, the same as SP is done.

The one that I can't understand is ADKPortal, neither the Admin Panel for it or the code integration that I need to do to work with it.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Nomada_Firefox on June 12, 2016, 04:14:48 AM
Well, I have a site now with ADK portal. http://firefoxccmods.com/ It is down now but it will be re-activated soon. Before ADK, I had a TinyPortal. I replaced it because there was not a version for the last SMF. But looking now perhaps I return to TinyPortal. But I have been looking the EzPortal and it looks good. However, the main problem is load it with a old database and with some very important mods.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Eliana Tamerin on June 20, 2016, 05:52:29 PM
Well, as far a I see them from the inside (because I needed some Portal that allow me to use some of their function in a easy way), some of the main differences are that SP do that many edits in files because it doesn't use hooks as TP. Also from the install files I see that TP have all the Menu, Buttons, Settings and Permissions in it's own file, and SP edit the source files to let SMF handle it as if was part of the core and not from other file.

Ahh, that's because TP's code has been rewritten lately, whereas SP's is still based on the pre-hooks days. It could use an update, but there's really no incentive to do so before 2.1 is further along in development.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: lurkalot on June 21, 2016, 02:53:02 AM
Well, as far a I see them from the inside (because I needed some Portal that allow me to use some of their function in a easy way), some of the main differences are that SP do that many edits in files because it doesn't use hooks as TP. Also from the install files I see that TP have all the Menu, Buttons, Settings and Permissions in it's own file, and SP edit the source files to let SMF handle it as if was part of the core and not from other file.

Ahh, that's because TP's code has been rewritten lately, whereas SP's is still based on the pre-hooks days. It could use an update, but there's really no incentive to do so before 2.1 is further along in development.

Actually, I think we've been using hooks since April 2012 when TP1.0 came out. And before that if you include the RC versions
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Antes on June 21, 2016, 04:42:40 AM
I'm curious anyone tried (at least in theory) to make SP or TP with hooks-only... I'm asking it because SD already edit-free.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Arantor on June 21, 2016, 08:23:08 AM
Eh, I did a 2.0 hook only portal a while ago. Not that hard depending how thorough you are.

But since I didn't write an admin area (as I don't need one), it was never suitable for being released, not that I wanted to deal with the support issues.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: aegersz on October 12, 2016, 04:53:28 AM
for me, the choice is Simple.

yes, I chose SP and it's Shoutbox configured with all my BBC and YouTube integration are cool features.

also, the Simple Portal support guys are really helpful.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: wedealantiques on November 01, 2016, 03:54:53 PM
I just installed TP and think it is a wonderful mod and exactly what I was looking for.

Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: shadymisa on December 05, 2016, 11:49:11 AM
Simple Portal.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: landyvlad on January 21, 2017, 12:56:08 AM
Here's my take on it. 

I had a look (via people's signature blocks) at forums using both.
I'm also a member of forums which use one or the other of these.

For me, TP looks as if it does what I will want it to do.  SP probably does as well but I find the styling of the TP forums to be better (to my eye) than SP.  That's it.
So I'll be going with TP. 

This sums it up nicely.
The bottom line is that both work, very well, for a lot of people on a lot of sites, and often with a lot of mods. It comes down to personal preference.

Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Linkjay on January 21, 2017, 02:36:30 PM
SimplePortal 👌👌
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: landyvlad on February 08, 2017, 11:22:51 PM
I'm using EZPortal now, the reason is unimportant but I was perfectly happy with TP as well.


The take away message here is that all three EZ, TP, SP are good and work perfectly well.
The key is getting to know the functions and usage of whatever portal it is you happen to have chosen.

:)

Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: mythus on March 10, 2017, 08:46:29 AM
I voted for TinyPortal.

I am in the middle of rebuilding my current website which is ran on Joomla using Kunena as its forums. While Joomla has served me well enough (it has it fair share of headaches) Kunena is a mess and terrible with system resources. Anyway, my needs required a robust article category system, a robust article management system, a download system, menus, and a community-friendly forum. The later easily answered by SMF, but what of the rest?

So like any serious person wanting to find the best for their needs, I set up SMF and started trying out a bunch of portals. I tried most of them, but I didn't try Dream Portal or PortalMX because by the time I got to TinyPortal I was already won over. The default TinyPortal 1.2 that they offer as the stable release is good, but I needed a responsive layout for my mobile users. So I decided to try out their open beta 1.2R. Despite being in beta, it has been extremely stable with everything I've thrown at it so I have no issues using it as my live site. It is also very responsive and accepts all of the theming changes I do to the SMF theme I'm using.

TinyPortal is more like a CMS than a portal if you ask me, while neatly being a part of and sharing many of SMF's features. I have greatly been enjoying building my site and moving over my 240 articles and various categories over using TinyPortal. In fact, I would say that TinyPortal has been far more of a joy to work with than Joomla. I remember TinyPortal when it was still new and it was impressive then but it has skyrocketed into something far more than I could even hope for from a portal. Best of all, it is easy to work with, no bridging needed, and any theme stuff I do to SMF is also accepted by TinyPortal because it uses SMF's theme! Article management in TinyPortal is extremely robust and flexible, categories are nice and flexible, and if I make a mistake it is so easy to fix and move things back to where I wanted them. Really for me TinyPortal is it. It is all I ever wanted from a full fledge CMS and it has the added bonus of being a part of the best forum software ever.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Ken. on March 12, 2017, 07:34:54 AM
Very nice work on your site mythus, especially the theme... I like it!  8)


BTW, your sig link needs to be changed from .com to .net.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: mythus on March 12, 2017, 08:04:33 AM
Ah yes it does lol. Shows you how long it's been since I last used SMF lol, had .Net for years. Thanks for the compliment.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: GarhurdJung on March 27, 2017, 11:04:12 AM
Should be Tiny Portal. Tiny Portal is better than Simple portal.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Shambles on March 27, 2017, 11:15:18 AM
Should be Tiny Portal. Tiny Portal is better than Simple portal.

By failing to qualify why you say that, it becomes an irrelevant and valueless comment.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: afer on April 02, 2017, 01:29:21 PM
New here first post...

I voted for Tinyportal.

not to undermine simpleportal; but I found tinyportals block editing features superior... whatever crazy layout I tried I was able to do it. With simplportal I was more restrained by design capabilities.

the tp shout issue with colors and avatars has been resolved today - check their site ;)
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: lurkalot on October 21, 2019, 03:51:26 AM
I'm curious anyone tried (at least in theory) to make SP or TP with hooks-only... I'm asking it because SD already edit-free.

I know this topic hasn't had a post in a while, but just coming back to this particular question.  TinyPortal when installed in SMF 2.0.15 will edit six files and the rest done using hooks.  Whereas, installing TinyPortal on SMF 2.1RC2 is hooks only, no file edits at all.
Title: Re: SimplePortal vs TinyPortal - Which do you PREFER?
Post by: Arantor on October 21, 2019, 04:42:25 AM
I had a prototype portal that was hooks only for 2.0. Long since abandoned though, but I had the skeleton somewhere.