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Title: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Fustrate on August 13, 2009, 06:06:16 PM
Simple Machines would like to announce the opening of our first Smiley Contest, to give our community members the challenge to create some new and exciting smileys.

We are looking to introduce a new smiley set into SMF 2.0, and we have a few concepts that our team members have developed, but we want to see what our community can contribute. We also want to increase the number of smileys available on our modifications site, and start using the "Smileys of the moment" feature in every SMF install. Your work could be broadcast round the SMF ecosystem!

To enter just submit a smiley set to the modifications site and include somewhere in the description "for the Smiley Contest". Alternatively, email them to [email protected] in a zipped file. The competition will run for one month, at the end of which voting will be presented to the SMF Team, the Charter Members and the Beta Testers.

Prizes:
First prize will win a Simple Machines Charter Membership. (http://www.simplemachines.org/charter) (Worth $50!)
Runners up (and first place) will have their entries broadcast to every SMF forum with our "Smileys of the Moment" feature.


Smileys Required


   
   
   
(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/angel.gif) angel(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/angry.gif) angry(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/cheesy.gif) cheesy(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/cool.gif) cool(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/cry.gif) cry(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/embarrassed.gif) embarrassed
(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/grin.gif) grin(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/huh.gif) huh(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/kiss.gif) kiss(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/lipsrsealed.gif) lipsrsealed(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/rolleyes.gif) rolleyes(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/sad.gif) sad
(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/shocked.gif) shocked(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/smiley.gif) smiley(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/tongue.gif) tongue(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/undecided.gif) undecided(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/wink.gif) wink(http://www.fustrate.com/images/blank_smiley.gif) blank

Not Required, But Preferred


   
(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/afro.gif) afro(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/police.gif) police(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/azn.gif) azn(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/laugh.gif) laugh(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/evil.gif) evil

Terms and Conditions:

Good Luck!

Feel free to post any questions, any examples or work in progress art. Multiple entries are allowed.
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Trekkie101 on August 13, 2009, 08:03:16 PM
Nice! Looking forward to the sets that come forward! :D
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: GliG on August 13, 2009, 08:37:33 PM
I'll make fantastic smiley packages :)
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Minare on August 14, 2009, 04:50:13 AM
Oww, it seems like we will have nice sets coming on the way :P
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Gary on August 14, 2009, 05:02:46 AM
I sure hope so. :P
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Forbs on August 14, 2009, 05:06:23 AM
   
Great idea, we head Now I go to work
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Arantor on August 14, 2009, 05:26:39 AM
I wish I could draw :(
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: sodmanccc on August 14, 2009, 05:08:56 PM
Hello everyone nice to see you all again.. this is message is directed at the staff and administration the best way i can contribute is by offering my input and feedback We(my company) have personal ran over 100 contest with 1000s of people. Contest that had no budget to over a grand budgets contests. so i hope you will take this constructive criticism.

contest is a good idea but i have a few issues with this contest.. is only open to those that make graphics and only to those that know how to and make smileys so thats like what 5% or less of the members here. so next is who is going to do them? the elite members here who all carry Charter membership which is the freaking prize? are you kidding me? sure thats a great prize if you already dont own it. if you do its nothing. its pretty easy if you spend a little time thinking about a good prize with out spending money something as simple as free hosting for 3 months is a fair and good prize and there's much much more things you can do hell simply put the smiley set on all new smf and i am sure this would be a REALLY great reward for them and make more people want to do it.  there is over 2,000 public free smiley sites, with more then 100,000 smileys.

i like contest and think they should happen but i personal think SMF would be better off with other contest that will build user participation help create a bond with the site its members and to improve smf.  Something as simple as  testimonials contest would be great SMF would get 100s of people that enter. there is over 2,000 public free smiley sites, with more then 100,000 smileys   i strongly suggest making this a testimonials

I hope you find this contribution helpful feedback.

Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Akyhne on August 14, 2009, 07:28:07 PM
We are missing smiley packages in SMF. And decent smileys are actually one of the few things we seem not be able create our selves.
If we made a contest regarding a php mod, we would also rule out a lot of users.

I'm also sure that if a charter member wins the competition, he/she will still be able to use the price for the next year.

A testimonial contest doesn't sound fair to me. You want to make a competition where the person who praise the SMF software most should win? Would that give fair testimonials?

To me, a smiley competition is a good way to get people involved in the SMF software and show their skills.
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: AlexIsaacs on August 14, 2009, 08:27:26 PM
Quote from: sodmanccc on August 14, 2009, 05:08:56 PM
contest is a good idea but i have a few issues with this contest.. is only open to those that make graphics and only to those that know how to and make smileys so thats like what 5% or less of the members here.
So rare skills are useless? Maybe instead of putting down those that can make smilies, more people should learn how to make them. If your estimate is correct, then that is a really pathetic statistic. I expect at least a 100 entries in this, from which at least 20 will be fantastic.

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so next is who is going to do them? the elite members here who all carry Charter membership which is the freaking prize? are you kidding me? sure thats a great prize if you already dont own it. if you do its nothing.
The majority of people here aren't Charter members. I for one would make a set for no money at all, perhaps just as a thank you for making fantastic software. I have no clue what the benefits of being a Charter member are, but I'll take the swanky user bar, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks along this path.

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its pretty easy if you spend a little time thinking about a good prize with out spending money something as simple as free hosting for 3 months is a fair and good prize
No offense but that's a retarded prize. If you own an SMF forum you most likely already have a host. Unless SMF would be willing to fund my website's expenses for three months, this prize would be completely useless, and I'd rather have no prize at all than to have a completely useless one.

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and there's much much more things you can do hell simply put the smiley set on all new smf and i am sure this would be a REALLY great reward for them and make more people want to do it.  there is over 2,000 public free smiley sites, with more then 100,000 smileys.
Did I misread or isn't this exactly what they are doing, putting the set on all SMF 2.0 running forums, as part of its default skin? I don't see how this is more incentive because you gain zero notoriety from it, but it's a nice perk.
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i like contest and think they should happen but i personal think SMF would be better off with other contest that will build user participation help create a bond with the site its members and to improve smf. 
Woah now, this isn't the end-all of competitions. From the looks of the prize and the task, this is just a little thing to get a bit more hype going for 2.0 as well as a great method to get a free set of smileys. I'm sure future competitions will include a larger member base, but the more people a contest targets means the less talent it takes to do it.
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Something as simple as  testimonials contest would be great SMF would get 100s of people that enter. there is over 2,000 public free smiley sites, with more then 100,000 smileys   i strongly suggest making this a testimonials
95% of the premade smilies I've seen are god-awful. There are a handful of terrific sets and artists out there but I'm sure each and every one of those artists will agree with me here: they would rather make a set to win a contest than make a set and get nothing for it.

And a testimonial contest? How would that even profit SMF? Why not just make a thread, asking for people's testimonials for nothing in return? No company in the world needs thousands of them, just several to use on the main site.



I for one an excited to do this, and will start on my entry when I get back into town and have a copy of Photoshop nearby as well as some free time.

Here are a few of mine that I currently use on my site. They do get a little graphic so I'll post just some PG-rated ones here as a preview of the kind of style I'll be going for:

(http://g101design.net/talkpark/Smileys/tpkTwo/facepalm.gif)(http://g101design.net/talkpark/Smileys/tpkTwo/wtf.gif)(http://g101design.net/talkpark/Smileys/tpkTwo/anger.gif)(http://g101design.net/talkpark/Smileys/tpkTwo/smileguy.gif)(http://g101design.net/talkpark/Smileys/tpkTwo/worship.gif)

Of course, the trick will be making them transparent .gifs + animated + low file size. Looking forward to the challenge. Good luck to all the other contestants. :]


I hope you find this contribution helpful feedback.


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Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Trekkie101 on August 15, 2009, 07:26:04 AM
sodmanccc, I thank you for your views, and yes it is a skilled process to create smileys, however we have other competitions requiring other skills (and the testimonials idea, is a fantastic one I'll be sure to bring up); and they'll all start appearing spread over time :)

Spektral, we are indeed internally drafting new set, however we are interested in what the community can contribute. First we are in great need of smiley sets on the customization sites, and we want to see some nice smileys as we have old archives of very outdated images, and many sets online we cannot copy obviously for copyright issues. Second fold, we are open to considering a new default set from the community, obviously it has to fill a very specific need, however the prize(s) will be given regardless of whether we use a new default set or not. :)

Again so far the demo images, and some things are looking VERY nice :D

Good luck guys :)!
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Arantor on August 15, 2009, 07:55:22 AM
Quote from: Trekkie101 on August 15, 2009, 07:26:04 AM
(and the testimonials idea, is a fantastic one I'll be sure to bring up); and they'll all start appearing spread over time :)

Something like the team blog Testimonials page perhaps? :) (http://blogs.simplemachines.org/team/329513/Testimonial+Page.html)
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Trekkie101 on August 15, 2009, 07:59:38 AM
Yeah but with some fun with it :P
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: TheDisturbedOne on August 15, 2009, 03:47:53 PM
When is the deadline?
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: TheDisturbedOne on August 15, 2009, 03:58:44 PM
Quote from: sodmanccc on August 14, 2009, 05:08:56 PM
Hello everyone nice to see you all again.. this is message is directed at the staff and administration the best way i can contribute is by offering my input and feedback We(my company) have personal ran over 100 contest with 1000s of people. Contest that had no budget to over a grand budgets contests. so i hope you will take this constructive criticism.

contest is a good idea but i have a few issues with this contest.. is only open to those that make graphics and only to those that know how to and make smileys so thats like what 5% or less of the members here. so next is who is going to do them? the elite members here who all carry Charter membership which is the freaking prize? are you kidding me? sure thats a great prize if you already dont own it. if you do its nothing. its pretty easy if you spend a little time thinking about a good prize with out spending money something as simple as free hosting for 3 months is a fair and good prize and there's much much more things you can do hell simply put the smiley set on all new smf and i am sure this would be a REALLY great reward for them and make more people want to do it.  there is over 2,000 public free smiley sites, with more then 100,000 smileys.

i like contest and think they should happen but i personal think SMF would be better off with other contest that will build user participation help create a bond with the site its members and to improve smf.  Something as simple as  testimonials contest would be great SMF would get 100s of people that enter. there is over 2,000 public free smiley sites, with more then 100,000 smileys   i strongly suggest making this a testimonials

I hope you find this contribution helpful feedback.


Actually this is better than the last contest. The last contest was theming. With this contest you only need graphics skills. The theming contest you need coding and graphics skills. 

Also, if you don't like a contest, you don't have to enter.
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Trekkie101 on August 15, 2009, 09:33:08 PM
A month as posted in the original post :)
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Yahmez on August 15, 2009, 10:28:32 PM
Quote from: Fustrate on August 13, 2009, 06:06:16 PM
Terms and Conditions:

  • The standard 19 smileys and one blank smiley must be included.

What is a blank smiley?
Great contest idea BTW.
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: IchBin™ on August 15, 2009, 10:52:45 PM
Its a smiley without a smiley face on it. Just the head, so that others can be made if needed.
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Sudhakar Arjunan on August 16, 2009, 02:37:45 AM
Will start working on it. Good Startup SMF Team
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: sreisenb001 on August 16, 2009, 07:48:55 AM
I just made my first Smiley!!!!! it is right below this post





So what do you think? I call it Invisible Smiley ;D
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: AlexIsaacs on August 16, 2009, 10:01:31 AM
Quote from: sreisenb001 on August 16, 2009, 07:48:55 AM
I just made my first Smiley!!!!! it is right below this post





So what do you think? I call it Invisible Smiley ;D
Wow.
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Imô¿ôu2 on August 16, 2009, 12:20:45 PM
Not that it matters. But I honestly feel that is a very refreshing idea.

Allows for forum involvement. In four fold. Those who can make smiles. Those who try to make smiles. And those who will take time to look at the smiles and might join just to be able to vote. And those that do belong that will vote. As for the prize. Nice. I concede that is not a trip to the islands. But over all it is scaled correctly for the type of contest that is being held. Time frame for the contest is thought out. Long enough to draw contestants. Not so long that it is for gotten about or people loose interest in it as it dragged out to long.

Not saying that it is some great amazing idea over some of the other cool things SMF has done. But it is up there in one of the most refreshing idea's to draw people to the weaker area's like the smiles.

It's a contest. I guess lets not make it so hard that it turns people off. I don't think that the present scope of the contest is off the mark.

Imô¿ôu2
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: aldo on August 16, 2009, 05:51:20 PM
Can't wait to see what people have to offer :D
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Trekkie101 on August 16, 2009, 09:53:29 PM
Quote from: Imô¿ôu2 on August 16, 2009, 12:20:45 PM
Not that it matters. But I honestly feel that is a very refreshing idea.

Allows for forum involvement. In four fold. Those who can make smiles. Those who try to make smiles. And those who will take time to look at the smiles and might join just to be able to vote. And those that do belong that will vote. As for the prize. Nice. I concede that is not a trip to the islands. But over all it is scaled correctly for the type of contest that is being held. Time frame for the contest is thought out. Long enough to draw contestants. Not so long that it is for gotten about or people loose interest in it as it dragged out to long.

Not saying that it is some great amazing idea over some of the other cool things SMF has done. But it is up there in one of the most refreshing idea's to draw people to the weaker area's like the smiles.

It's a contest. I guess lets not make it so hard that it turns people off. I don't think that the present scope of the contest is off the mark.

Imô¿ôu2

Thanks for the support Imô¿ôu2 :) Its a competition I'm greatly excited about :D


sreisenb001, make a real damn smiley :P
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: sreisenb001 on August 16, 2009, 10:18:49 PM
Quote from: Trekkie101 on August 16, 2009, 09:53:29 PM
Quote from: Imô¿ôu2 on August 16, 2009, 12:20:45 PM
Not that it matters. But I honestly feel that is a very refreshing idea.

Allows for forum involvement. In four fold. Those who can make smiles. Those who try to make smiles. And those who will take time to look at the smiles and might join just to be able to vote. And those that do belong that will vote. As for the prize. Nice. I concede that is not a trip to the islands. But over all it is scaled correctly for the type of contest that is being held. Time frame for the contest is thought out. Long enough to draw contestants. Not so long that it is for gotten about or people loose interest in it as it dragged out to long.

Not saying that it is some great amazing idea over some of the other cool things SMF has done. But it is up there in one of the most refreshing idea's to draw people to the weaker area's like the smiles.

It's a contest. I guess lets not make it so hard that it turns people off. I don't think that the present scope of the contest is off the mark.

Imô¿ôu2

Thanks for the support Imô¿ôu2 :) Its a competition I'm greatly excited about :D


sreisenb001, make a real damn smiley :P


I have no idea how... So you will have to settle for lame humor
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Imô¿ôu2 on August 16, 2009, 10:50:34 PM
I am really looking forward to see what people come up with.

Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: GravuTrad on August 17, 2009, 01:22:58 PM
Quote from: Akyhne on August 14, 2009, 07:28:07 PMI'm also sure that if a charter member wins the competition, he/she will still be able to use the price for the next year.

+1  ;)
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Liam. on August 17, 2009, 05:37:36 PM
Okay, a couple of questions.

1. When does this contest end? Or does it end when SMF 2 is released officially?
2. I take it we can submit as many smiley packs as possible eligible for this contest. Is that correct?
3. If it is not my work, but a colleges work, and I have permission from them to enter it in the contest, with their name at the top of the credits, is that eligible?
4. Great contest, I can't wait for the winners to be announced, I'll submit my packs ASAP!
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Trekkie101 on August 17, 2009, 05:41:22 PM
Hi iKorp :)

1. It ends a month from the submission date.
2. You can submit as many entries as you wish :)
3. Its a grey area, we can look at it on a case by case basis and would want a way to contact that person.
4. Great to know, cant wait to see them!

:)
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Yigal on August 17, 2009, 05:45:37 PM
Can't wait to see the results!!
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: simmaster on August 18, 2009, 09:46:34 AM
Quote from: sreisenb001 on August 16, 2009, 07:48:55 AM
I just made my first Smiley!!!!! it is right below this post





So what do you think? I call it Invisible Smiley ;D
It is impossible to beat your level of talent. Let's just get the prize and give it to sreisen already :P
Anywho, can't wait to see the great smiley sets you guys make, because I can't draw (but I wish I could) :D
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: watchhorse on August 18, 2009, 12:52:08 PM
Quote from: iKorp on August 17, 2009, 05:37:36 PM
1. When does this contest end? Or does it end when SMF 2 is released officially?

and

Quote from: Trekkie101 on August 17, 2009, 05:41:22 PM
1. It ends a month from the submission date.

Between the lines i read:
We have to wait a month for SMF 2.0 :'( :'( :'(

Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: H on August 18, 2009, 03:39:39 PM
This competition is not tied in anyway to the 2.0 release schedule. However the latest topics in the Developers\' Blog (http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?board=129.0) give some information about the next releases
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: SoLoGHoST on August 18, 2009, 03:57:03 PM
Quote...The standard 19 smileys and one blank smiley must be included.

Where are there 19??  I see 17 when posting a new topic, or replying to a topic here at SMF.  However, when installing SMF 2.0 RC1.2, I only see 16 smilies when replying to and/or posting a new topic.

Where are the rest of the smilies at?  Sorry if this is a stupid question.
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: H on August 18, 2009, 04:09:01 PM
There are some 'hidden' smileys. Take a look in the relevant SMF folder
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: SoLoGHoST on August 18, 2009, 04:53:53 PM
Ok, thanks a lot H :)
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: SoLoGHoST on August 18, 2009, 08:39:28 PM
Ok, so just now seeing that their are 22 Smiley's in this folder.  Which 1's are the standard 19??  OR Which one's aren't the standard 19??

EDIT:
Ok, just a wild guess here, but I believe that afro.gif, police.gif, and evil.gif are the 3 smileys that are not part of the standard 19.  Please, can someone back me up on this??

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Nao 尚 on August 19, 2009, 03:54:35 PM
I'm not interested in entering the contest (I'm not a contest guy really), but I'd like to suggest that if a decent designer does, may they give a try at a smaller smiley set? I've always found SMF's (and other boards) to be quite large for my taste. It tends to make the lines taller when a smiley is used in them.
Here are a few smileys I made myself (out of many more, you can see them in action over at noisen.com), basically I took inspiration from Invision's original set (and a few others) and used PunBB's smiley set size (which I believe is perfect for a regular Verdana font).

(http://noisen.com/Smileys/cyna/waouh.gif) (http://noisen.com/Smileys/cyna/snif.gif) (http://noisen.com/Smileys/cyna/gnehe.gif) (http://noisen.com/Smileys/cyna/classy.gif) (http://noisen.com/Smileys/cyna/sweat.gif) (http://noisen.com/Smileys/cyna/whistling2.gif) (http://noisen.com/Smileys/cyna/rolleyes.gif) (http://noisen.com/Smileys/cyna/geek.png) (http://noisen.com/Smileys/cyna/unsure.gif)

PS: please don't use any of them without my permission. I am very much willing to give it, though.
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: SoLoGHoST on August 19, 2009, 04:15:26 PM
Nice set there Nao.  I am currently working on a non-animated set.  But will probably do an animated set of the same type after that and will be submitting them both on here.  The set I am doing is 18x18 pixels (which is the max recommended in the first post).  Well, anyways, almost done, so better get back to it, while I have a tiny bit of time left in this day to work on it...
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Trekkie101 on August 19, 2009, 04:17:21 PM
Quote from: SoLoGHoST on August 18, 2009, 08:39:28 PM
Ok, so just now seeing that their are 22 Smiley's in this folder.  Which 1's are the standard 19??  OR Which one's aren't the standard 19??

EDIT:
Ok, just a wild guess here, but I believe that afro.gif, police.gif, and evil.gif are the 3 smileys that are not part of the standard 19.  Please, can someone back me up on this??

Thanks :)

We're working on this now, blame me, I done a directory count and plucked my number :P

The standard 16 in an SMF install are the required ones, however the special ones would be nice to have too, expect a post later today with clarification :)

Nao, come on, give it a try, your work looks really good!
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Nao 尚 on August 19, 2009, 05:09:12 PM
@sologhost> Thanks :)

@Trekkie> Thanks, too! But I'm really no graphic artist... I consider myself more as a con artist (I modify existing work to fit my needs, sometimes I put a lot of thought & work into it but it's still not 100% original work, otherwise I'd probably have submitted my entry to the contest just for fun).
I was just bored one day and decided to mess around with Paint Shop Pro's Animation Shop 3. It was fun for the couple of days it lasted, but editing smileys pixel by pixel, frame after frame, can be a bit boring, too. So I didn't even finish the smiley set -- I made about 35 smileys and left the remaining ~30 in their original (larger) state. Fortunately they're less used than the main set ;)

Oh well, enough of me -- I can't wait to see what the community will come up with!
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Yigal on August 19, 2009, 08:57:55 PM
Nice!!  You need some special skill to make smileys...is there like...some program for it.
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: 青山 素子 on August 20, 2009, 12:35:53 AM
Quote from: Yigal on August 19, 2009, 08:57:55 PM
Nice!!  You need some special skill to make smileys...is there like...some program for it.

For static smileys, any image edit program will work. GIMP works well on all major platforms, Paint.NET is decent on Windows. There are also plenty of other legal no-cost tools. GIMP also supports creating animated GIF images.
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: AlexIsaacs on August 20, 2009, 02:36:38 AM
You can make them in Paint if you're decently versed in pixel art. Most modern smilies aren't pixel art, however.

I use Photoshop CS4 for mine. And obviously, all programs are free if you know where to look.  ;D
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: 青山 素子 on August 20, 2009, 02:45:04 AM
Quote from: Spektral on August 20, 2009, 02:36:38 AM
And obviously, all programs are free if you know where to look.  ;D

Let's keep the discussion legal, k?
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: AlexIsaacs on August 20, 2009, 02:52:53 AM
Quote from: Motoko-chan on August 20, 2009, 02:45:04 AM
Quote from: Spektral on August 20, 2009, 02:36:38 AM
And obviously, all programs are free if you know where to look.  ;D

Let's keep the discussion legal, k?
Just sayin'
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Trekkie101 on August 20, 2009, 05:41:52 AM

Smileys Required


   
   
   
(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/angel.gif) angel(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/angry.gif) angry(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/cheesy.gif) cheesy(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/cool.gif) cool(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/cry.gif) cry(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/embarrassed.gif) embarrassed
(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/grin.gif) grin(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/huh.gif) huh(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/kiss.gif) kiss(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/lipsrsealed.gif) lipsrsealed(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/rolleyes.gif) rolleyes(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/sad.gif) sad
(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/shocked.gif) shocked(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/smiley.gif) smiley(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/tongue.gif) tongue(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/undecided.gif) undecided(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/wink.gif) wink(http://www.fustrate.com/images/blank_smiley.gif) blank

Not Required, But Preferred


   
(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/afro.gif) afro(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/police.gif) police(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/azn.gif) azn(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/laugh.gif) laugh(http://www.simplemachines.org/community/Smileys/simple/evil.gif) evil
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Trekkie101 on August 20, 2009, 05:43:37 AM
Thanks to Fustrate :)

Updated original post too :)
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: SoLoGHoST on August 20, 2009, 08:50:50 AM
Quote from: Yigal on August 19, 2009, 08:57:55 PM
Nice!!  You need some special skill to make smileys...is there like...some program for it.
For animated GIFS I use Ulead Gif Animator.  For everything else (that is not 3D), I use Photoshop.

Cool, thanks for the list there Trekkie101.  But already did the laugh and azn one's, figured they were among the standard.  Oh well.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: AlexIsaacs on August 20, 2009, 01:41:44 PM
Quote from: SoLoGHoST on August 20, 2009, 08:50:50 AM
Quote from: Yigal on August 19, 2009, 08:57:55 PM
Nice!!  You need some special skill to make smileys...is there like...some program for it.
For animated GIFS I use Ulead Gif Animator.  For everything else (that is not 3D), I use Photoshop.

Cool, thanks for the list there Trekkie101.  But already did the laugh and azn one's, figured they were among the standard.  Oh well.

Cheers!
Wut, just use PhotoShop for animation, or ImageReady if you have an old version. But everything post Photoshop 7 comes with an integrated animator. PS CS3/4 even comes with Flash integration. An example is my avatar, which was made with Photoshop CS4.
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: SoLoGHoST on August 20, 2009, 01:55:30 PM
Thanks, but I like Ulead Gif Animator better for animated gifs.
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: AlexIsaacs on August 20, 2009, 02:54:02 PM
Quote from: SoLoGHoST on August 20, 2009, 01:55:30 PM
Thanks, but I like Ulead Gif Animator better for animated gifs.
Meh, it just saves hassle. I'd rather create the frames from layers and have my animation done in 1 minute than use another program. =P
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Yigal on August 20, 2009, 03:12:18 PM
What about the smiley in your avatar?  Did you make that?
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: anunlike on August 20, 2009, 03:20:13 PM
It sounds like only the winning entry will become sole property of SMF? So what happens with the other entries? Are they just given back; will the creator(s) be asked to add their entry to the SMF modification smiley site; are they, considering that property rights are tacitly given to SMF, added to the SMF modification smiley site automatically or ...?
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: AlexIsaacs on August 20, 2009, 03:51:36 PM
Quote from: Yigal on August 20, 2009, 03:12:18 PM
What about the smiley in your avatar?  Did you make that?
yessum
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Yigal on August 20, 2009, 03:58:47 PM
Use that then :P
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: SoLoGHoST on August 20, 2009, 04:06:10 PM
Spektral - I suppose it's because I've been using Gif Animator for so long now and know it better than Adobe's Equivalent.  Well to each their own I always say.  Perhaps it's time for a change though...
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: AlexIsaacs on August 20, 2009, 04:19:20 PM
Quote from: Yigal on August 20, 2009, 03:58:47 PM
Use that then :P
Err. o_O


Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Yigal on August 20, 2009, 04:22:24 PM
Quote from: Spektral on August 20, 2009, 04:19:20 PM
Quote from: Yigal on August 20, 2009, 03:58:47 PM
Use that then :P
Err. o_O




=_=?
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: SoLoGHoST on August 20, 2009, 04:55:39 PM
What I don't like about making small graphics is that it is very difficult to decide which 1 you like best.  Just add a dot and everything changes...lol.
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: AlexIsaacs on August 20, 2009, 05:00:28 PM
Quote from: Yigal on August 20, 2009, 04:22:24 PM
Quote from: Spektral on August 20, 2009, 04:19:20 PM
Quote from: Yigal on August 20, 2009, 03:58:47 PM
Use that then :P
Err. o_O




=_=?
o____O



@Solo: Sooo true.
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: SoLoGHoST on August 20, 2009, 05:04:13 PM
I must've made like 4 variations of each smiley.  I'm going to select which one's I like best (may or may not be the best) and throw the rest into another folder and submit the whole thing.  Just 2 more to go, Angel and Grin.... grrrrrr

FYI Trekkie:  Please Note - According to what smiley's are required, there are 17 Smileys in your list and 1 blank Smiley.  So technically, should say 17 Standard Smiley's and 1 Blank Smiley.  Currently says 16 standard smiley's and 1 blank smiley.
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Trekkie101 on August 20, 2009, 08:55:02 PM
Quote from: anunlike on August 20, 2009, 03:20:13 PM
It sounds like only the winning entry will become sole property of SMF? So what happens with the other entries? Are they just given back; will the creator(s) be asked to add their entry to the SMF modification smiley site; are they, considering that property rights are tacitly given to SMF, added to the SMF modification smiley site automatically or ...?

We won't be claiming any property rights to any submission, all submissions are the authors and will remain that way, including the winning set.

The smileys submit will be showcased on every SMF admin center, allowing 1 click (ish) install :) the same way we handle mods and themes.

You are free to impose any license/copyrights onto your smileys as you see fit.

If, and this is majorly hypothetical, and only an if. If the winner is chosen to be part of SMF 2.0, as a default or extra set, we will contact the author and arrange to credit and transfer the rights to their work to us, if they choose to, we will not force anything. Your work is yours :)

Quote from: SoLoGHoST on August 20, 2009, 05:04:13 PM
I must've made like 4 variations of each smiley.  I'm going to select which one's I like best (may or may not be the best) and throw the rest into another folder and submit the whole thing.  Just 2 more to go, Angel and Grin.... grrrrrr

FYI Trekkie:  Please Note - According to what smiley's are required, there are 17 Smileys in your list and 1 blank Smiley.  So technically, should say 17 Standard Smiley's and 1 Blank Smiley.  Currently says 16 standard smiley's and 1 blank smiley.
Thanks, and *sigh*, on a standard SMF install there are 16, angel is not a default smiley, but we have it installed here, causing all my idiotic issues :P I offer apologies, and we will not judge based on how many smileys are in a submission, Ill take anything between 16-23 or whatever it is :P
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Yahmez on August 20, 2009, 10:08:29 PM
Here are a few I just made up. Be truthful, should I just give up now?  :P

(http://marysvilleforum.org/Smileys/new/laugh.gif)

(http://marysvilleforum.org/Smileys/new/angry.gif)

(http://marysvilleforum.org/Smileys/new/angel.gif)
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Yigal on August 20, 2009, 10:20:56 PM
:P
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Arantor on August 20, 2009, 10:27:55 PM
Well, it wouldn't let me see those images. :(
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Yahmez on August 20, 2009, 10:41:03 PM
Quote from: Arantor on August 20, 2009, 10:27:55 PM
Well, it wouldn't let me see those images. :(
I fixed it... Hopefully...
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Yigal on August 20, 2009, 10:47:06 PM
Nice..
Got anymore? ;D
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Yahmez on August 20, 2009, 11:18:27 PM
Quote from: Yigal on August 20, 2009, 10:47:06 PM
Nice..
Got anymore? ;D
Not yet, I'll have to make some more this weekend.
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Yigal on August 20, 2009, 11:23:28 PM
Make some that the smileys are more in motion :)
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: SoLoGHoST on August 21, 2009, 01:21:43 AM
Okie Dokie, submitted my 18 Smiley's just now.  Non-Animated PNG files (approx 1 KB each).  Hope you are right that the angel is not among the required smileys (since Frustrate has it as required in the 1st post of this topic), because i didn't do an angel smiley.  Finally, now I can get to work on an animated version of it, arrrgggg.

Bytheway, nice smiley's Yahmez :)
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Trekkie101 on August 21, 2009, 07:01:40 AM
Yahmez, keep up the good work and make sure you submit them! :)

and thanks very much Sologhost, got your entry in the mail today :D

Also as a side note, if anyones making animated sets, feel free to take a still snapshot aswell, we will treat a non animated and animated set as different entries.
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: SoLoGHoST on August 21, 2009, 10:23:00 AM
Thanks Trekkie.  Though, just now noticed that I missed 1... UNDECIDED!!  Argggg.  Will do, and resend.  Sorry for the preemptive strike there  :-X
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: karlbenson on August 21, 2009, 01:46:07 PM
I used to use Jasc Animation Shop to do mine.
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: SoLoGHoST on August 21, 2009, 01:53:18 PM
Quote from: karlbenson on August 21, 2009, 01:46:07 PM
I used to use Jasc Animation Shop to do mine.
Yeah, those were the days when I was using PaintShop Pro (like 6 years ago) as it came with that proggie.  Lots of fun back then.  But things got way funner nowadays.  Still, it's all good!

Oh, bytheway, for those who are interested, for an excellent 3D Image Creation Program download Vue 7 (Free and totally awesome).  I was like stuck on Bryce for the longest time and couldn't get my mind away from it, until I just recently switched to Vue, and WoW!  It makes Bryce look like Microsoft Paint!

Well, Trekkie101, have resubmitted my Smiley Set just now via E-Mail.  Please use this 1 instead of my last submission, as well as the Screenshot within it as this has the most up-to-date files.  Including the missing undecided smiley from the previous set I e-mailed to you.

Thanks A Bunch,

Solomon

EDIT - Have changed the Screenshot to a better liking and resent just the Screenshot to the email addy: [email protected].  Can you please make sure that this Screenshot, that I sent you last, gets used instead of any of the other one's, including those in the .zip file.  Please also let me know if the Screenshot Width is too wide as it is currently 684 pixels wide.

Thanks Again!
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Trekkie101 on August 21, 2009, 07:43:10 PM
Updated for you :)
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: SoLoGHoST on August 21, 2009, 07:59:19 PM
Ok, Thanks a bunch Trekkie101
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: sodmanccc on August 22, 2009, 01:45:58 PM
like i said no one has entered the contest so far 0 have entered on my sites we have over 300 enter in OVER 300.

SO ADMINS/STAFF take a min to go over my comments again other non staff dont need to comment on my feedback


Hello everyone nice to see you all again.. this is message is directed at the staff and administration the best way i can contribute is by offering my input and feedback We(my company) have personal ran over 100 contest with 1000s of people. Contest that had no budget to over a grand budgets contests. so i hope you will take this constructive criticism.

contest is a good idea but i have a few issues with this contest.. is only open to those that make graphics and only to those that know how to and make smileys so thats like what 5% or less of the members here. so next is who is going to do them? the elite members here who all carry Charter membership which is the freaking prize? are you kidding me? sure thats a great prize if you already dont own it. if you do its nothing. its pretty easy if you spend a little time thinking about a good prize with out spending money something as simple as free hosting for 3 months is a fair and good prize and there's much much more things you can do hell simply put the smiley set on all new smf and i am sure this would be a REALLY great reward for them and make more people want to do it.  there is over 2,000 public free smiley sites, with more then 100,000 smileys.

i like contest and think they should happen but i personal think SMF would be better off with other contest that will build user participation help create a bond with the site its members and to improve smf.  Something as simple as  testimonials contest would be great SMF would get 100s of people that enter. there is over 2,000 public free smiley sites, with more then 100,000 smileys   i strongly suggest making this a testimonials

I hope you find this contribution helpful feedback.

Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Arantor on August 22, 2009, 03:05:03 PM
I'm apprentice staff, do I count? I should add I have run multiple competitions before - including paid prizes, so I guess I do have something to add after all.

The fact is that NO MATTER what do you for a competition where you want people to be involved, you will have to exclude someone else. There is no way around it. And there have been several entries already.

Let's review the other options of competition:

* Mod writing
Limited to coders - even smaller group than artists.
Who judges? On what criteria? Nicest code, most useful, most functions? Impractical all round.
What one user sees as useful, others will not.

* Testimonials
So... encouraging reviews for money. How many of these testimonials therefore are going to be heaping on the praise when it may not be entirely deserved? Are you going to praise the software, the people, who/what?
Easy to win, actually. I used to work at a company where three people were awarded a large value (£500 GBP) prize per month for being team players - out of 1000 people. Over the course of a year, one of the three people that won the prize was on my nomination, because it's a case of knowing how to word such things to be compelling.
Thus someone whose skill at language is more persuasive than another's will automatically have a higher chance of winning.
Pretty much bars all people for whom English isn't their first language - and discourages a ton of people for whom it IS their first language.

* Smileys
So there's 2000 sites out there. Do SMF have permission to redistribute them? No.
Are they all a consistent theme to each other? No.
Do you require strong technical skills to make smileys? No.
Can you have fun doing it? Yes.
Does it bring the community together? I'd say it has a chance.
Thus it's a low barrier to entry and not a huge contest.


Regarding the prize, $50 may not seem like a lot to you. Three month's hosting, though? For me alone that's... $120. For other users, it runs into the thousands of dollars per month. The budget just isn't big enough.

Plus even if you do have it now - next year it's free. It's still $50 saving.
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: SoLoGHoST on August 22, 2009, 03:45:28 PM
I just wanna say, and don't get me wrong...  Making graphics (all kinds) is FUN for me!  I'd do it for SMF for FREE.  However, a Charter Membership and a chance to have your smilies packaged on a default install of SMF is a BIG ++ IMO.  Though, already have a site called Graphics Mayhem where we do all kinds of graphics for free.

Just my 2 cents worth!
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Trekkie101 on August 22, 2009, 05:29:08 PM
Quote from: sodmanccc on August 22, 2009, 01:45:58 PM
like i said no one has entered the contest so far 0 have entered on my sites we have over 300 enter in OVER 300.

SO ADMINS/STAFF take a min to go over my comments again other non staff dont need to comment on my feedback


Hello everyone nice to see you all again.. this is message is directed at the staff and administration the best way i can contribute is by offering my input and feedback We(my company) have personal ran over 100 contest with 1000s of people. Contest that had no budget to over a grand budgets contests. so i hope you will take this constructive criticism.

contest is a good idea but i have a few issues with this contest.. is only open to those that make graphics and only to those that know how to and make smileys so thats like what 5% or less of the members here. so next is who is going to do them? the elite members here who all carry Charter membership which is the freaking prize? are you kidding me? sure thats a great prize if you already dont own it. if you do its nothing. its pretty easy if you spend a little time thinking about a good prize with out spending money something as simple as free hosting for 3 months is a fair and good prize and there's much much more things you can do hell simply put the smiley set on all new smf and i am sure this would be a REALLY great reward for them and make more people want to do it.  there is over 2,000 public free smiley sites, with more then 100,000 smileys.

i like contest and think they should happen but i personal think SMF would be better off with other contest that will build user participation help create a bond with the site its members and to improve smf.  Something as simple as  testimonials contest would be great SMF would get 100s of people that enter. there is over 2,000 public free smiley sites, with more then 100,000 smileys   i strongly suggest making this a testimonials

I hope you find this contribution helpful feedback.



We have entries here :)
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: SoLoGHoST on August 25, 2009, 10:59:48 PM
Working on an animated set and about 1/2 way done it, but I gotta tell you, hate working with GIFs and their 256 colors :(
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Arantor on August 26, 2009, 12:08:35 AM
The GIF format is 20 years old... 256 colours then was extravagant.
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Nao 尚 on August 26, 2009, 04:49:44 AM
Sologhost, you can work in PNG if you want... (Can't you?)
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Arantor on August 26, 2009, 06:24:57 AM
Quote from: Nao 尚 on August 26, 2009, 04:49:44 AM
Sologhost, you can work in PNG if you want... (Can't you?)

SoLoGHoST specifically said animated - neither APNG nor MNG are widely supported yet :(
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: SoLoGHoST on August 26, 2009, 08:33:51 AM
Yeah, unfortunately, Arantor's right.  Can't do animation with PNG's, unless they are MNG/APNG.  And only allowed GIF or PNG in this contest.  Well, will do what I can with the limited 256 colors  :-\  Though the real problem with GIFs is that it doesn't support semi-transparent pixels :( (like 50% opacity... has to apply a color to it that isn't transparent).  Perhaps I'll make it a Semi-Animated Set.

Cheers
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: SoLoGHoST on August 26, 2009, 02:15:19 PM
Here's 1 from my Semi-Animated set, just a teaser...

(http://acs.graphicsmayhem.com/images/laugh.gif)

With a black border and black matte...
(http://acs.graphicsmayhem.com/images/laugh1.1.gif)

Do you guys think I should make the border black like in the 2nd pic??  Kinda hate the way the edges look rough.  Maybe it's a little too fast?  What do you all think?

EDIT:
Question - Do we have to have all images in the set in the same format??  Or can we mix up the image formats?  That is, can I have PNG and GIF images within a complete set?  Or do I have to have all GIF or all PNG for each set?  At a guess, I would say the latter.  But figured it wouldn't hurt to ask.

Cheers :)
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Arantor on August 26, 2009, 05:55:32 PM
I'd keep it to a single format though there is no reason I can think of why you'd *have* to. But it'd be better for consistency.
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: d1m0n on August 26, 2009, 07:17:27 PM
I would like to present you some os these:
(http://kolobok.us/smiles/light_skin/laugh1.gif)
(http://kolobok.us/smiles/light_skin/sad.gif)
(http://kolobok.us/smiles/light_skin/smile.gif)
(http://kolobok.us/smiles/light_skin/wink.gif)
(http://kolobok.us/smiles/light_skin/yes.gif)
(http://kolobok.us/smiles/light_skin/umnik2.gif)
(http://kolobok.us/smiles/light_skin/yes3.gif)
(http://kolobok.us/smiles/light_skin/air_kiss.gif)
(http://kolobok.us/smiles/light_skin/biggrin.gif)
(http://kolobok.us/smiles/light_skin/angel.gif)


(if you want them u need only to give credits to the autor, that all what he asks. You can find more on kolobok.us and maybe he can make some custom for you!) i think they are very cool and always using them on my smf forum, and they work pretty good together... just try. i know that they are not made by me, just givving you to know, and maybe you dont need any contest at all? :) not sure...
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Gary on August 26, 2009, 07:28:23 PM
The idea here is for you to show your drawing skills, not your searching skills. :P
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: d1m0n on August 26, 2009, 07:57:54 PM
Quote from: Gazmanafc on August 26, 2009, 07:28:23 PM
The idea here is for you to show your drawing skills, not your searching skills. :P
yes, I understand lol. but in case if you dont get any nice and good or better then this ones, what you would do? still remain on ones that was created even if they s*ck (apart me) ? just letting to know :) And im sorry if i did somthing wrong, just was trying to help ;)
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: SoLoGHoST on August 26, 2009, 09:33:27 PM
Quote from: Arantor on August 26, 2009, 05:55:32 PM
I'd keep it to a single format though there is no reason I can think of why you'd *have* to. But it'd be better for consistency.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking of consistency.

Quote from: d1m0n on August 26, 2009, 07:17:27 PM
I would like to present you some os these:


(if you want them u need only to give credits to the autor, that all what he asks. You can find more on kolobok.us and maybe he can make some custom for you!) i think they are very cool and always using them on my smf forum, and they work pretty good together... just try. i know that they are not made by me, just givving you to know, and maybe you dont need any contest at all? :) not sure...
Not to put down this set at all, but while it looks very good against a light colored background, try throwing it up against a dark background and you will see all of the many imperfections in the borders of these smilies that will show up like a big sore thumb.  The problem with these smilies is that they use a white matte instead of none.  While the white matte preserves the original border around the smilies a bit nicer, you sacrifice having it only look good against certain backgrounds, in this case white and very light colors will do okay (which IMO is a huge sacrifice that isn't worth it).  If you change the matte to none, you will get a fully transparent background for the smiley, which will most likely make the edges a bit rough, but will look good against ANY background color, image, etc..  So, just my 2 cents on this, is better to make the matte = none.

Cheers :)

EDIT:
For example, here is the grin smiley from the set, that you found elsewhere online, with a dark background (and trust me, is the same for all smiley's that you posted above)...
(http://acs.graphicsmayhem.com/images/horrible_smile.png)

And here is my laugh with the same color background (took a still snapshot of it, mind you)
(http://acs.graphicsmayhem.com/images/laugh2.png)

I'd rather have my edges look a little rough than to look like that!

RE-EDIT:
There is also the other possibility that the creator of these smilies purposely placed in the white around the smiley's in order to maintain the smooth border appearance in light backgrounds, with a matte = none, which would give the same effect.  However, in any case, you see the problem with dark backgrounds, not worth it IMO.
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: d1m0n on August 27, 2009, 01:35:04 PM
Quote from: SoLoGHoST on August 26, 2009, 09:33:27 PM
Quote from: Arantor on August 26, 2009, 05:55:32 PM
I'd keep it to a single format though there is no reason I can think of why you'd *have* to. But it'd be better for consistency.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking of consistency.

Quote from: d1m0n on August 26, 2009, 07:17:27 PM
I would like to present you some os these:


(if you want them u need only to give credits to the autor, that all what he asks. You can find more on kolobok.us and maybe he can make some custom for you!) i think they are very cool and always using them on my smf forum, and they work pretty good together... just try. i know that they are not made by me, just givving you to know, and maybe you dont need any contest at all? :) not sure...
Not to put down this set at all, but while it looks very good against a light colored background, try throwing it up against a dark background and you will see all of the many imperfections in the borders of these smilies that will show up like a big sore thumb.  The problem with these smilies is that they use a white matte instead of none.  While the white matte preserves the original border around the smilies a bit nicer, you sacrifice having it only look good against certain backgrounds, in this case white and very light colors will do okay (which IMO is a huge sacrifice that isn't worth it).  If you change the matte to none, you will get a fully transparent background for the smiley, which will most likely make the edges a bit rough, but will look good against ANY background color, image, etc..  So, just my 2 cents on this, is better to make the matte = none.

Cheers :)

EDIT:
For example, here is the grin smiley from the set, that you found elsewhere online, with a dark background (and trust me, is the same for all smiley's that you posted above)...
(http://acs.graphicsmayhem.com/images/horrible_smile.png)

And here is my laugh with the same color background (took a still snapshot of it, mind you)
(http://acs.graphicsmayhem.com/images/laugh2.png)

I'd rather have my edges look a little rough than to look like that!

RE-EDIT:
There is also the other possibility that the creator of these smilies purposely placed in the white around the smiley's in order to maintain the smooth border appearance in light backgrounds, with a matte = none, which would give the same effect.  However, in any case, you see the problem with dark backgrounds, not worth it IMO.

Ok tottaly understand you, but it is NOT a problem because the autor made them as you mentioned above in purpose to look good with light color themes, and he also did for dark themes, without a border at all, I posted here a light berdered only because theme here is light so for more looking good... selected light color, and now here if you dont mind i post u some without border:
(http://kolobok.us/smiles/standart/blush2.gif)
(http://kolobok.us/smiles/standart/derisive.gif)
(http://kolobok.us/smiles/standart/grin.gif)
(http://kolobok.us/smiles/standart/laugh1.gif)
(http://kolobok.us/smiles/standart/smile3.gif)
(http://kolobok.us/smiles/standart/not_i.gif)
(http://kolobok.us/smiles/standart/yahoo.gif)

I pick them randomly, only to demonstrate, there are all that you asked smiles like angel, sad, happy etc, like the request is made in a first post. only need to search and select them, SoLoGHoST if you dont mind, put some of this ones on the same dark background if you dont mind afcours, and yes your simes are cute too! ;)
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: SoLoGHoST on August 27, 2009, 01:53:37 PM
Ok thanks for sharing the smilies that you like best d1m0n.  However, I think you are missing the point...
Quote from: Gazmanafc on August 26, 2009, 07:28:23 PM
The idea here is for you to show your drawing skills, not your searching skills. :P
Would be better, IMO, to just throw up a link to these smilies instead of putting them in this topic, however, I get your point too.  But, evidently, SMF (and correct me if I'm wrong) is not going to bother running to other websites asking if they can use their smilies, thus the purpose of this contest, to find the talent from within the SMF community, not from without.

Cheers :)
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Arantor on August 27, 2009, 02:56:38 PM
Quote from: SoLoGHoST on August 27, 2009, 01:53:37 PM
Would be better, IMO, to just throw up a link to these smilies instead of putting them in this topic, however, I get your point too.  But, evidently, SMF (and correct me if I'm wrong) is not going to bother running to other websites asking if they can use their smilies, thus the purpose of this contest, to find the talent from within the SMF community, not from without.

That's the general idea: what can the community itself produce? Not what can the community find on the thousands of other websites out there, but what can the community produce and showcase?
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: d1m0n on August 27, 2009, 03:04:06 PM
Quote from: d1m0n on August 26, 2009, 07:17:27 PM
I would like to present you some os these:
(http://kolobok.us/smiles/light_skin/laugh1.gif)
(http://kolobok.us/smiles/light_skin/sad.gif)
(http://kolobok.us/smiles/light_skin/smile.gif)
(http://kolobok.us/smiles/light_skin/wink.gif)
(http://kolobok.us/smiles/light_skin/yes.gif)
(http://kolobok.us/smiles/light_skin/umnik2.gif)
(http://kolobok.us/smiles/light_skin/yes3.gif)
(http://kolobok.us/smiles/light_skin/air_kiss.gif)
(http://kolobok.us/smiles/light_skin/biggrin.gif)
(http://kolobok.us/smiles/light_skin/angel.gif)


(if you want them u need only to give credits to the autor, that all what he asks. You can find more on kolobok.us and maybe he can make some custom for you!) i think they are very cool and always using them on my smf forum, and they work pretty good together... just try. i know that they are not made by me, just givving you to know, and maybe you dont need any contest at all? :) not sure...

already did in my first post.

and what if you dont get any good of comunity?
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: SoLoGHoST on August 27, 2009, 03:18:08 PM
It's a contest and with all contests there is 1 thing that is inevitable, someone has to win.  As far as not getting any good smilies from within the community, that is the risk that you take whenever you have contests.  So, hopefully this answers your question.

OMG, look at me, am just now noticing that I am a Full Member...  8)
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Arantor on August 27, 2009, 03:21:52 PM
There's already been multiple entries and knowing some of the themes here on the site I'm sure there are some awesome smiley artists lurking too :)
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: d1m0n on August 27, 2009, 05:11:02 PM
Quote from: SoLoGHoST on August 27, 2009, 03:18:08 PM
It's a contest and with all contests there is 1 thing that is inevitable, someone has to win.  As far as not getting any good smilies from within the community, that is the risk that you take whenever you have contests.  So, hopefully this answers your question.

OMG, look at me, am just now noticing that I am a Full Member...  8)

rofl, yah i can see u are a full member. congratz, at all people who participetaed in contest or tryed u was the best curtenly. that was easy. :) Congratz dude.

And dont be so bad, was trying to help only... ppl im here in comunity, without critics u never can go better.... im i wrong?
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Arantor on August 27, 2009, 05:14:09 PM
The contest isn't over yet - still plenty of time to run!

Btw, congrats, SoLoGHoST - only another few hundred to the next one!
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: SoLoGHoST on August 27, 2009, 05:24:03 PM
hehe, thanks Arantor.  Will get there slowly but surely!
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: SoLoGHoST on August 28, 2009, 02:46:49 PM
Hello again, it's kinda almost impossible to do a Screenshot for the animated GIFS since all animated gifs have different frame rates.  I can create a still screenshot of one of the frames of each of the animated gifs and place them in the screenshot instead, which would be much easier, but how will the users be able to see the animation of them?  So that they can be able to judge them better??  I don't know how you guys set it up for everyone to view, but do you also place the smileys in there so people can see the actual smileys??  If not, the animation of the animated gifs would not be visible for people to see and vote upon.  Just wondering here as I'm about ready to create the screenshot for my Semi-Animated Set...

RE-EDIT - OK just submitted the smiley pack on the SMF MOD Site.

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: shaythong8 on August 31, 2009, 07:18:08 PM
There's an "azn" smiley?
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: SoLoGHoST on August 31, 2009, 10:14:53 PM
yeah, there sure is.  It's an asian smile.

EDIT:  Just submitted this Smiley Pack called, SoLoSMiLeYS on the MOD Site.  Guess it will be a couple of days before it gets approved.  Cheers :)
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: amlucent on September 05, 2009, 10:02:20 PM
I read the terms and conditions on the first page, admittedly I did not read through all 6 pages of this thread so I may have missed it, and it states that the smileys must be your own work.

My question is what if they are GPL or creative commons licensed art work?  What if it is a derivative of one of those works?  Is that eligible?
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: 青山 素子 on September 05, 2009, 11:17:26 PM
If you are submitting someone else's work, that's cheating and you will be found out.

For this contest, it should be only your own original work.
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: amlucent on September 05, 2009, 11:32:19 PM
again.. my question is what if it is a derivative of one of those works?  Is that eligible?
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Arantor on September 05, 2009, 11:35:19 PM
I guess it depends how derivative we're talking. Taking a GPL work, and tweaking the colours slightly is likely to be a derivative work that would be excluded.

Taking several GPL icons and merging bits out of each into a single icon to make a truly unique icon is however likely to be OK because it's a new, very distinct icon.

The icons themselves can be licensed under whatever license you want to give them - just like mods.
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: H on September 06, 2009, 11:00:51 AM
I'd expect the majority of the work to be yours and not someone elses. Packaging a few smileys and then winning would be unfair on people who have actually put a lot more hard work in. You'd also need to ensure you give credit for any other work that you're using. Thats my opinion though, and may or may not be shared by the team
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: LOVELORD on September 06, 2009, 01:34:14 PM
(http://www.balkanforum.net/Smileys/default/10016.gif) (http://www.balkanforum.net/Smileys/default/10129.gif)

And we create a much more... About 800 smileys... I saw that someone use this smyles here as them avatar....
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: MultiformeIngegno on September 09, 2009, 06:27:19 PM
So... how much "Smiley Packs" have been submitted 'till now? I'm curious!! :P
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Deaks on September 11, 2009, 05:58:44 PM
you will find out at end :P

also member just 2 days to do Sunday at 11 pm GMT is the closing date (at 11 pm Friday GMT atm)
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Nolt on September 13, 2009, 07:11:58 PM
And who is the winner ???
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: SoLoGHoST on September 13, 2009, 07:56:14 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they say that closing stops a month from the posting of this topic?  So, I would assume that there is also a time duration for the voting part of this as well.  Though, not really sure about how long this will be.  So, I suppose we will just have to wait and find out  >:( ;D
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Trekkie101 on September 14, 2009, 06:24:49 AM
Competition closed, submissions are going to the Team, Beta Testers and Charter Members later on for voting.

Results shall follow after voting.
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Yigal on September 15, 2009, 12:51:59 AM
Can't wait to see what turns out :D
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: SoLoGHoST on September 15, 2009, 01:52:17 AM
Yeah, me too.  The suspense is killing me...
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: MultiformeIngegno on September 15, 2009, 06:58:14 PM
:D
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Acf on September 25, 2009, 06:11:43 PM
Quote from: shaythong8 on August 31, 2009, 07:18:08 PM
There's an "azn" smiley?

Asian pride
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_pride

I wonder what beautifully things will appear :) It's about time some more folks start making smiley packs... ;)
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: SoLoGHoST on September 28, 2009, 03:37:17 AM
Just now looking at your smiley packs Aliencowfarm.  Very Nice :)
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Deaks on September 28, 2009, 10:14:13 AM
acf is the master smiley designer its a shame hes gave up
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Acf on September 28, 2009, 10:33:58 AM
Quote from: SoLoGHoST on September 28, 2009, 03:37:17 AM
Just now looking at your smiley packs Aliencowfarm.  Very Nice :)

thanks

Quote from: Runic on September 28, 2009, 10:14:13 AM
acf is the master smiley designer its a shame hes gave up

He was :P Runic the Customizer where are thou smileys? ;)
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Deaks on September 28, 2009, 10:42:42 AM
there is one out there by me ... there not as good as yours but they are there
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Powerbob on September 29, 2009, 07:14:53 AM
So when does the voting start? Next year? 8)
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: SleePy on September 29, 2009, 07:22:10 AM
There has been some issues with a few of the entries.  We are working with the authors to get them corrected.
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Powerbob on September 29, 2009, 03:34:24 PM
Thanks for the info
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Yigal on September 29, 2009, 10:10:24 PM
Sorry, I missed it XD .. Have the smileys been released?
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Arantor on September 29, 2009, 10:13:23 PM
Yigal, not yet:

Quote from: SleePy on September 29, 2009, 07:22:10 AM
There has been some issues with a few of the entries.  We are working with the authors to get them corrected.
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Yigal on September 29, 2009, 10:14:38 PM
Kay, thanks ..
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Powerbob on October 01, 2009, 05:19:51 AM
So this will hold up the release of RC2 as well yes?
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Arantor on October 01, 2009, 05:22:22 AM
I don't believe so. Bugs and other issues have been holding up RC2, not this AFAIK.
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Something like that on October 01, 2009, 10:21:37 PM
There will be an RC3, so if it doesn't make it for RC2, it'll be in RC3 :)
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Nao 尚 on October 02, 2009, 01:49:40 AM
I agree for most bugs... But we need Curve to be finished for RC2, though. Mod authors need to be able to convert their mods to Curve and not have to do it again for RC3 and 2.0f.
Curve doesn't use a new smiley set though, so yeah it doesn't have anything to do with this topic. ;)
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: SoLoGHoST on October 02, 2009, 01:51:47 AM
Quote from: Nao/Gilles on October 02, 2009, 01:49:40 AM
I agree for most bugs... But we need Curve to be finished for RC2, though. Mod authors need to be able to convert their mods to Curve and not have to do it again for RC3 and 2.0f...

AMEN to that!!
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Nao 尚 on October 02, 2009, 03:32:57 AM
Well, it's actually the reason why RC2 has been postponed for so long ;) Since Curve was full of tiny bugs here and there.
It seems to be close to completion though, but there are still issues. I recently decided to switch my own theme to Curve and thus I've been able to help finding bugs in Curve, so obviously as a result, it's being postponed even more (sorry :D). I think you can safely assume RC2 will be released around 2012, though. (Conservative estimate.)
And RC3 should be around by 2015. Maybe 2014 if we're lucky. As for the final version, we all know the cake is a lie.

Still, I'm kidding but SMF2 is such a beast! Every time I look into the latest additions/patches to the code, I'm in awe. There are some glitches from time to time (we beta testers are here to help spot them, mostly by analyzing patch code or playing around with the real deal), but it's nothing compared to the amount of work that has been put into it. No other forum software can compare, and it's only the beginning. (If some of the devs survive the RC process of course. Lol.)
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: SoLoGHoST on October 02, 2009, 03:46:51 AM
LoL, I can imagine the migraines and headaches and stressfulness of the devs.  But I also know, if anyone can do it, they can and will.  I have faith in the SMF Devs and the Rest of the SMF Team!  May the Force Be With You All!! ;)
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Arantor on October 02, 2009, 03:47:29 AM
Quote from: SoLoGHoST on October 02, 2009, 03:46:51 AM
May the Force Be With You All!! ;)

Shouldn't that be "May The Source Be With You" ? :P
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: SoLoGHoST on October 02, 2009, 03:49:49 AM
That's a good 1 Arantor... lol :)  Source and Force :P
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: nextz77 on October 03, 2009, 02:43:34 PM
sound good, do this contest still available ? Think to work with my friend with this contest.
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: SoLoGHoST on October 04, 2009, 01:40:20 AM
Trekkie101 stated that the competition was closed.  However this is going on a month now since he said this.  Not even sure if the voting for this has even begun yet.
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: H on October 04, 2009, 11:01:00 AM
With the RC2 charter release things have been a little busier than usual, however we hope to have a vote for the charters fairly soon! :)
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: KensonPlays on October 12, 2009, 01:54:00 PM
"
I'LL ENTER THE CONTEST
"

i'll start when I get home, I love designing stuff in photoshop!
(should I put in the PSD, the JPG, Gif, or PSD and one or the other????)
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: 青山 素子 on October 12, 2009, 05:56:32 PM
The contest has ended, but you are still welcome to make custom smileys for SMF.
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: →|Ash|← on October 14, 2009, 03:30:32 AM
Nice.

Won't join tho :'(
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Nolt on October 14, 2009, 01:42:06 PM
Quote from: Motoko-chan on October 12, 2009, 05:56:32 PM
The contest has ended, but you are still welcome to make custom smileys for SMF.

Who is the winner then ?
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Özgür on October 14, 2009, 04:04:29 PM
I  guess winner will selected by rating. So we will wait the contest rating.

QuoteThe competition will run for one month, at the end of which voting will be presented to the SMF Team, the Charter Members and the Beta Testers.
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: Powerbob on October 15, 2009, 05:03:12 AM
Taking an awfully long time to start the voting?
Title: Re: Simple Machines Smiley Contest
Post by: General-Promotion on October 16, 2009, 04:17:22 PM
Nice smileys :)