SMF Multiforum System Official Development Thread
Status: Private Beta
Active development site: http://www.forumscommunity.com
What does it do?SMF Multiforum System allows you to convert your SMF powered forum into a fully featured SMF hosting service, where your users will easily be able to set up and run their own forums without them feeling like they are being restricted at all. All core SMF features are available to users, including the ability to install any mods and themes that you select.
HistoryWay back in 2006 I worked on a project that I named SMF MFS, however at the time my knowledge of PHP was limited, and the mod never got properly finished. As a result of this and other reasons it was never accepted onto the official mod site. The 3 old threads about SMF MFS have currently received over 4500 views, and the mod (compatible with SMF 1.0.7!) has been downloaded from SMFHacks.com over 3500 times.
I am now far more proficient in PHP, and seeing as there is still not a free multiforum available for SMF, I am going to make one, and this time it's going to be much better and more fully featured :)
Feature ListHere is a comprehensive list of the planned features for SMF Multiforum System. If you have a feature request, please feel free to make a post and your idea will certainly be considered.
Installation
- Simple install via the package manager.
- No code required, everything works out of the box on the default theme.
Features for created forums
- Users can register a forum using a simple form that is integrated into SMF. [Done]
- They have the option of selecting different versions. For example 1.1.11 or 2.0 RC3. [Done]
- Access forums using subdomains such as http://example.domain.com (Requires wildcard subdomains). [Done]
- Use any theme that the multiforum owner allows them to.
- Use (or not use) any modifications that the multiforum owner allows them to.
- Administrators of created forums have 100% control over their forum, but 0% access to anything they shouldn't be changing.
Features for multiforum owners
- Enable/Disable forum creation.
- Reserve specific forum names. [Done]
- List created forums. [Done]
- Delete created forums. [Done]
- Suspend/Unsuspend created forums. [Done]
- Full support for vbgamer45's Ad Management Mod to display ads on created forums.
- Option to save server space by not allowing users to install their own mods.
- Log in to any created forum as an admin. [Done]
- Setup unlimited themes ready for users to install/use on their forum.
- Setup unlimited mods ready for users to install on their forum.
Feature RequestsThought of something that SMF Multiforum System should be able to do? Feel free to make a post and your idea will certainly be considered.
Change Log11/5/2010Flexible method for creating new forums sorted out.
Method for creating new set of forum files.
Method for setting up new forum database.
12/5/10Test implementation of creating new forum files.
SQL file for setting up new forum database.
Everything working automatically through create.php.
create.php working to create 1.1.11 and RC3 boards.
First version of new.php
13/5/10First version Sources/Multiforum.php
First version Themes/default/Multiforum.template.php
Copies files, edits Settings.php, copies database.
Create page setup.
14/5/10Checks for existing forums with same name.
Makes fully working 1.1.11 and 2.0 RC3 forums.
Users have access to stuff they shouldn't...
3/6/10Working with several different forum types.
Ability to reserve forum names.
Admin can list forums.
And delete forums.
And suspend/unsuspend forums.
Started looking for Beta testers.
Error Log17/5/10 - Undefined index id and type every time Create tab is clicked.
17/5/10 - Unlink of .htaccess is missing a forward slash.
Mmmh.. interesting!
Integrate it with Gallery and download mods ?
I did this for an old site I had, running SMF 1. whatever is was.
I hooked it into all the Gallery and Download features, to create seperate sections for each site (:
I LOVE you for this ;) A multiforum system for free would probably put out some sites like SMFForFree, etcetera - although their memberbases and reputation will keep them going ;)
However, one feature I've not seen in ANY multiforum system is the capability to work with both SMF 1.1.X and 2.0, and on signup the user can select which version they want to use. I highly recommend adding this feature in sooner or later. I can't wait to see it anyways ;) Good luck!
Its a bad idea if anything you should go paid.
Most of these free services do not last and end up leaving users upset when the host goes down. A free host requires a lot of planning, work, and resources to survive.
Quote from: vbgamer45 on May 11, 2010, 11:23:58 AM
Its a bad idea if anything you should go paid.
Most of these free services do not last and end up leaving users upset when the host goes down. A free host requires a lot of planning, work, and resources to survive.
*vbgamer says, trying to protect SMFForFree and his multiforum system :P
If most free services die, then that's just a lesson for the webmaster really, I don't see why that should be taken away.
It's more of giving the people access to stuff that will cause more harm then good. When I started a host I read a lot, had a server. You can't run this off a webhosting account.
True, I suppose. Then again - my point still stands that it's an experience for a webmaster, and if it doesn't work, that's the webmasters fault for not researching...
@sangwe11 It will be compatible with ALL mods.
@vb I am aware of SMFForFree.com, and it's a great site, just want you to know this mod is not aimed to cause any fall in the popularity of your site. To be honest I doubt it will as it is so established. If you have any features that you specifically do NOT want me to implement because they are unique to SMFForFree.com then please tell me. That applies to vb only, obviously.
I don't think this should really be a debate about whether the mod should be free or paid. It's going to be free. If as a result of that webmasters drop themselves into more than they can handle, thats up to them.
-Will
Don't take any of my mods ad mod is fine but other ones i don't really want on it. Bah going to have change the license on all my mods now so they won't be used in a forum host.
@Liam Yes, I will add the option to choose which SMF version to the feature list.
@vb The way I have done things people can actually install any mods they want, if it's a valid package, it will work. However I will start a list of disallowed mods for use with SMF Multiforum System. I have a technique that you could use to stop your mods from working with it, but you would have to put some extra code into all your mods. Drop me a PM if you want to talk about that more vb.
-Will
I'll BETA test if you wish!
Quote from: vbgamer45 on May 11, 2010, 06:09:00 PM
Don't take any of my mods ad mod is fine but other ones i don't really want on it. Bah going to have change the license on all my mods now so they won't be used in a forum host.
Just wondering, whats the problem with him allowing your mods to be installed by the users ?
Can't wait to see it
GoodLuck
Quote from: sangwe11 on May 12, 2010, 11:13:46 AM
Quote from: vbgamer45 on May 11, 2010, 06:09:00 PM
Don't take any of my mods ad mod is fine but other ones i don't really want on it. Bah going to have change the license on all my mods now so they won't be used in a forum host.
Just wondering, whats the problem with him allowing your mods to be installed by the users ?
Because otherwise his site, SMFForFree, would not have any unique functions. It's a perfectly reasonable explanation...
Same, I'll BETA test if you want, if you're doing it private (I will if it's a public beta aswell)... I can't wait ;)
@sangwe11 Liam explained it well. vbgamer45 made those mods, and he has a forum hosting site. By letting every other forum hosting site use his mods he is taking away unique value from his site. Still, there are hundreds of other mods that will be available.
@Liam I'll probably just put it up as a public Beta test and let everyone have a go if they want to. Feel free to give me as much feedback as you can though ;)
-Will
because you can install whatever mod you want
i can create a MOD
that shows phpinfo
and may even upload a shell
so
its better to control wish mods are allowed to be install
or disable installing mods with dangerous functions
thats all what in my head
Goodluck
I do plan to give you as much feedback as possible - you're doing a great thing for hundreds of people here, so you deserve constructive feedback ^_^
I am however, a little bit lost on how you will block those packages...
The owner of the multiforum can select mods that the created forums are allowed to install. Only those modifications will be allowed, there will be no option for created forums to upload their own packages. The same goes for themes.
-Will
Ahh, okay makes sense ;)
Here's some screenshots.
1 - Just showing the "Create" tab.
(http://www.fghj.org/smf/1.png)
2 - Here's the (currently very basic) menu.
(http://www.fghj.org/smf/2.png)
3 - If the user doesn't select a forum type...
(http://www.fghj.org/smf/3.png)
4 - Making a new forum.
(http://www.fghj.org/smf/4.png)
5 - And here it is :)
(http://www.fghj.org/smf/5.png)
-Will
Well the screenshots look great ;)
I like the way that this is actually built into the SMF code and design instead of being thrown out as a totally separate software like all of the other Multiforums.
Still, I love it and think it's coming along amazingly ;)
As for domains, I have a few questions...
1. Will the admin be allowed to let users select one of many main-domains they can, or will it just be one?
2. Will the user be able to upgrade from a subdomain and buy a regular one (from an external registrar, ofcourse), and change their nameservers to match this, after entering their domain name in the ACP?
I originally set it all up working separately to SMF, but I just integrated it all in because I thought it would look better and make it more of a proper mod.
1. If all the domains are hosted on the same server, that would be possible. A bit more complicated, but possible none the less. I will think about the best ways that could be achieved.
2. In all honesty I don't know how to do that. I'll look it up and see what I can do though. Most registrars let you set up domain forwarding though, wouldn't that be easiest?
-Will
Will be smf 2.0 supported?
Domain forwarding only points a domain at a given space. I think it's in SMFForFree, sign up and have a look about the admin cp of a free forum there - it's a good idea and I'd certainly want it for my users...
@MultiformeIngegno Yes SMF 2.0 RC3 will be supported.
@Liam I'll have a look and see what I can do, but theres a fair few other things that need to be done first so give me some time 8)
-Will
Quote from: gamesmad on May 13, 2010, 01:48:34 PM
@MultiformeIngegno Yes SMF 2.0 RC3 will be supported.
@Liam I'll have a look and see what I can do, but theres a fair few other things that need to be done first so give me some time 8)
-Will
Take your time, you're doing it for free ;) I'm not a domain expert myself but I could look further into it for you and come back with some possible ways to integrate it, if you want...
Nice screenys! Can't wait!
I've added a demo link to the original post :) Click on the "Create" tab, and you will have the option to create either a 1.1.11 forum or a 2.0 RC3 forum. Forum name should be all lower case letters and no spaces or you'll get an error.
http://www.forumscommunity.com/index.php?action=multiforum
-Will
EWW! It offers phpBB as a multiforum? M'eh, I suppose it's good as an 'extra' option...
Anyway, I'm signing up and testing it out now...
Quote from: gamesmad on May 15, 2010, 06:00:39 AM
I've added a demo link to the original post :) Click on the "Create" tab, and you will have the option to create either a 1.1.11 forum or a 2.0 RC3 forum. Forum name should be all lower case letters and no spaces or you'll get an error.
http://www.forumscommunity.com/index.php?action=multiforum
-Will
Looking nice (:
Just wondering though, does this create a new file set and database for each multiforum ?
@Liam Haha, yes it's an extra that won't be in the mod. Not often you see websites that offer a choice of type of forum though ;)
@sangwe11 Thanks :D Whatever happens, the new forum gets a whole new database. There will be an admin setting where you can choose if new forums get a whole new set of files (so that forum specific mods can be used), or if they just get the absolutely required files (no forum specific mods). It's a choice between functionality and server space.
-Will
Well actually quite a few custom forum hosting companies use a 'forum software' type thing. But phpBB would just make me puke ¬_¬
An option for that would be good, and I really like that idea.
However - would there possibly be any way that the whole 'network' as it were, could run off a single database and have all users registered throughout? That would be amazing ;)
I would like to test this out, I have done some free SMF hosting before but I had to manually add stuff. I have a dedicated server with 4 processors and 4 gig memory to test this on.
I will most likely take this viral! I think you should add things like sub domain support and ad placement.
I seriously think this is a great idea and this will defiantly help expand SMF's users! Since this supports SMF 2.0, I think all other free smf hosting services should be aware.
You are more then allowed to use my mods!
Quote from: Royalduke on May 15, 2010, 11:41:54 AM
You are more then allowed to use my mods!
For the record, no mod of mine is permitted to be distributed with the forum install with the exception of SimpleDesk (which I'll just refuse to support in that case, since the licence expressly permits distribution). If users want to install mods I've written (even if given away), they will have to do it themselves.
Quote from: Arantor on May 15, 2010, 11:48:47 AM
Quote from: Royalduke on May 15, 2010, 11:41:54 AM
You are more then allowed to use my mods!
For the record, no mod of mine is permitted to be distributed with the forum install with the exception of SimpleDesk (which I'll just refuse to support in that case, since the licence expressly permits distribution). If users want to install mods I've written (even if given away), they will have to do it themselves.
Ooops, forgot that.. Users of this system are more then allowed to use the mods maintained by me (updated to latest versions). You cannot add it to the core, I mean.
What I meant was that users are allowed to install the mods but the mods can;t come preloaded or anything :D Hope everything is clear.
@Liam In theory it will work with any PHP/mySQL script.
That is a mod I was thinking about doing aswell, however I'm probably going to keep that one private (at least for a while) because it's going to be on of the main features of a site I'm launching soon :)
@Royalduke I am definitely interested in taking you up on that one. Drop me a PM and we can discuss more :)
Subdomain support and ad placement are already in the feature list!
@Arantor+Royalduke No mods will be "pre-loaded" into the distribution. Multiforum owners can upload a selection of mod package files, which forum owners can then choose from to install.
-Will
Quote from: gamesmad on May 15, 2010, 10:23:54 AM
@sangwe11 Thanks :D Whatever happens, the new forum gets a whole new database. There will be an admin setting where you can choose if new forums get a whole new set of files (so that forum specific mods can be used), or if they just get the absolutely required files (no forum specific mods). It's a choice between functionality and server space.
Ahh thats good then. That was my main concern was the admin running out of server space, but if theres an option then the admin can choose.
Obviously the database size would be the same either way, but the files are less than 20kb for a minimal install I think.
-Will
All of my mods could be used in the core, I don't mind that (since my existing ones are merely BBCodes, however my larger mods I probably wouldn't mind either...).
If the admin wants to run a proper hosting service, they should have enough space to run multiple forums - as vbgamer45 pointed out above, not every server would run it. But having the option is also still a nice feature ;)
I've been interested myself in running a simple site like that offering pimped-up scripts to run a site off of, SMF being the main one ofcourse (WordPress MU being second...). But even if it's kept private, I'm sure you'll use it well ^_^
Congratulations on 1400 Posts, now control your own topics, controoollll!
I won't include any mods in the core. It's up to the multiforum owner to choose what they want to allow their forum owners to install.
I agree, forum hosting isn't for everyone. But it's up to people to decide whether they want a go at it :P The script is also useful for people who end up installing lots of copies of SMF for their own use, as it's much quicker than installing the normal way.
And thanks, always nice to go up a group :) Control? Eh?
-Will
Well it's good not having mods in the core - not loads of useless things that people don't want, 'eh ;) *cough*mymods*cough*
Yeah you're doing a good job and giving it lots of features and options ;) I like that ^_^
The demo version has been running for a couple days now, and despite several entries (some very interesting!) that I regard as attempts to hack or break the system, everything is still working. I am planning on adding more security aswell.
I'll be doing more work on this tomorrow, so with any luck there will be a few more features to play with soon :)
-Will
Awesome ;) I kinda got distracted from it when I tried - but I'll delve into finding bugs when these new features are out ;)
Quote from: gamesmad on May 15, 2010, 06:00:39 AM
I've added a demo link to the original post :) Click on the "Create" tab, and you will have the option to create either a 1.1.11 forum or a 2.0 RC3 forum. Forum name should be all lower case letters and no spaces or you'll get an error.
http://www.forumscommunity.com/index.php?action=multiforum
-Will
Clean IP Protection (school firewall)
Blocked for "pornography"
Hey,
I don't know what has already been added but it would be cool if these were:
1. Premium boards -> We can select forums to be "Premium" which gain premium benefits such as ad-free, backups enabled, premium themes etc...
2. Terminate a forum
3. Rename a forum
4. Manage ads -> Rotational ad manager where the admin can set either: (a) How many clicks the ad should get (Ex. 100,000) (Can set to unlimited) and (b) How long (Can set to never expire) + remove ads from certain board
5. Set one forum online/offline
6. Set all forums online/offline
7. Mailing system -> During signup people can set them to recieve emails from teh admin. At the same time the mailing system can send to those that chose not to recieve emails (For emergency stuff like host change etc..)
8. Suspend a forum
9. Unsuspend a forum
10. Add admin user to a forum
11. Manage ACP news (Each board has a news tab in teh admin section, on the index of the admin section and have it stand out so they notice the news)
12. Directory
13. Multiple database support
14. Multipul domain support
15. Custom domain support
16. Ajax forum name checker on signup form
17. PayPal + AlertPay + MoneyBrookers support for premium boards payment
18. A more advanced signup form:
Board access name (you.site.tld)
Admin username:
Admin password:
Admin email address:
Directory catagory: (Or private)
19. Welcome thread configurable in admin cp ---> You know the "Welcome to SMF" thread thing, the title + content of the post should be customizable.
Quote from: God of on May 17, 2010, 02:59:05 PM
Hey,
I don't know what has already been added but it would be cool if these were:
1. Premium boards -> We can select forums to be "Premium" which gain premium benefits such as ad-free, backups enabled, premium themes etc...
2. Terminate a forum
3. Rename a forum
4. Manage ads -> Rotational ad manager where the admin can set either: (a) How many clicks the ad should get (Ex. 100,000) (Can set to unlimited) and (b) How long (Can set to never expire) + remove ads from certain board
5. Set one forum online/offline
6. Set all forums online/offline
7. Mailing system -> During signup people can set them to recieve emails from teh admin. At the same time the mailing system can send to those that chose not to recieve emails (For emergency stuff like host change etc..)
8. Suspend a forum
9. Unsuspend a forum
10. Add admin user to a forum
11. Manage ACP news (Each board has a news tab in teh admin section, on the index of the admin section and have it stand out so they notice the news)
12. Directory
13. Multiple database support
14. Multipul domain support
15. Custom domain support
16. Ajax forum name checker on signup form
17. PayPal + AlertPay + MoneyBrookers support for premium boards payment
18. A more advanced signup form:
Board access name (you.site.tld)
Admin username:
Admin password:
Admin email address:
Directory catagory: (Or private)
I have to agree with all of those features being added in sometime ;) Nice suggestions - however it's only ALPHA at the moment so may not come for some time - gamesmad is bringing it along fast ;)
Added another quick suggestion (See my above post :D)
And thanks ^^^
Go gamesmad! Can't wait for public beta!
Any updates?
Quote from: Jntg4 on June 01, 2010, 01:24:17 PM
Any updates?
Well it's a big mod and he's volunteering to do this, so I wouldn't expect that it's done just yet. However, some updates would be nice ;)
you forgot to add Newsletter Pro as a disallowed mod.
I found a free host that would more than sustain this, hosting is requets-based though, so I'll have to see if they accpt it, but it seems like they orbably will, I've used them in the past too, it's a great service.
Maybe I'll say which host IF they accept it and WHEN this is released.
Also, are the addons going to be released simultaneously with the Multiforum? Or later? And will it be easy to make more forums compatible by ourselves? (AEF, IPB 1.3.1 [old free version I still have], or even YaBB if possible).
Sorry I haven't been keeping this thread up to date. I have been working on the admin panel, and also adding support for several more forums. Currently supported forums are -
SMF 1.1.11
SMF 2.0 RC3
phpBB 3.0.7-PL1
myBB 1.4.13
myBB 1.6 Beta (1.5.0.1)
WhiteBoard .1.17
AEF 1.0.8
SMF Multiforum System will be released with support for SMF 1.1.11 and SMF 2.0 RC3. It will be a free modification with no restriction in functionality, full admin panel included.
Addons, allowing users to choose from other types of forum, will be available at a cost of £10 ($15) each, and will include updates. It will be specifically against the software license to create or use addons that have not been purchased.
Copyright removal will be available at a cost of £50 ($75).
Please note that full functionality for both versions of SMF, including the admin panel is totally free.
Personally, I wouldn't suggest running this script on a free host. We're talking about a *lot* of space and bandwidth here.
Thanks for the update! I'm only really interested in SMF myself, but will the other multiforums be addons to the SMF multiforum?
Quote from: gamesmad on June 01, 2010, 03:35:00 PM
Sorry I haven't been keeping this thread up to date. I have been working on the admin panel, and also adding support for several more forums. Currently supported forums are -
SMF 1.1.11
SMF 2.0 RC3
phpBB 3.0.7-PL1
myBB 1.4.13
myBB 1.6 Beta (1.5.0.1)
WhiteBoard .1.17
AEF 1.0.8
SMF Multiforum System will be released with support for SMF 1.1.11 and SMF 2.0 RC3. It will be a free modification with no restriction in functionality, full admin panel included.
Addons, allowing users to choose from other types of forum, will be available at a cost of £10 ($15) each, and will include updates. It will be specifically against the software license to create or use addons that have not been purchased.
Copyright removal will be available at a cost of £50 ($75).
Please note that full functionality for both versions of SMF, including the admin panel is totally free.
Personally, I wouldn't suggest running this script on a free host. We're talking about a *lot* of space and bandwidth here.
Will your package include *all* of the forums' installations?
No, he just said 15 bucks a peace.
And the free host I use grants extra space for me whenever I need it and ANYTHING I need.
gr8
but i dnt lyk Disallowed Modifications part
Quote from: Jntg4 on June 01, 2010, 04:39:32 PM
No, he just said 15 bucks a peace.
And the free host I use grants extra space for me whenever I need it and ANYTHING I need.
I hope that he knows that he's not allowed to share *any* of SMF (and others) files in the package.
He is well aware, but the other scripts have a different license allowing distribution of the unmodified or modified packages, but he'll make you have to install the scripts on your server or something. He knows what he;d doing. And the mod goes into the Package Manager, he's not redistributing.
You probably need the files for each forum in a subdirectory.
"And the mod goes into the Package Manager, he's not redistributing."
Still, he can't include any SMF files with his mod.
He's aware, he won't.
He's doing it somewhat similar to the old SMFXXL.
Then it'll be very well :)
Jntg4, you can't really run this on a free hosts or shared host. Well at first toucan but after a few forums your done for at least in free hosts.
Most likely this will take a lot of CPU and most shared hosting have 10% limit while shared probably has a lot less. Simply use it at your own risk ^^
Anyways, OP, I love this thing! I don't think I would mind paying for the copyright removal as long as everything works great :D
Quote from: Liam. on June 01, 2010, 04:02:56 PM
Thanks for the update! I'm only really interested in SMF myself, but will the other multiforums be addons to the SMF multiforum?
Yes, the others will be addons to the SMF Multiforum System, so all created forums will have to be created through SMF. This basically makes SMF the "default" forum for users, but addons will be available for those who want them.
Quote from: Yağız... on June 01, 2010, 04:05:40 PM
Will your package include *all* of the forums' installations?
No, support for each extra forum will be £10.
Quote from: amigozone on June 01, 2010, 05:22:28 PM
gr8
but i dnt lyk Disallowed Modifications part
You will have to speak to vbgamer about that, it's not up to me.
There is absolutely no SMF (or any other forum software) code distributed with SMF Multiforum System. I learnt that the hard way last time round. When an addon is installed, you will also have to separately download and upload files for the selected forum.
Quote from: Royalduke on June 01, 2010, 07:43:22 PM
Anyways, OP, I love this thing! I don't think I would mind paying for the copyright removal as long as everything works great :D
Thanks very much, I'm doing my best to make it the best multiforum available.
Quote from: Royalduke on June 01, 2010, 07:43:22 PM
Jntg4, you can't really run this on a free hosts or shared host. Well at first toucan but after a few forums your done for at least in free hosts.
Most likely this will take a lot of CPU and most shared hosting have 10% limit while shared probably has a lot less. Simply use it at your own risk ^^
Anyways, OP, I love this thing! I don't think I would mind paying for the copyright removal as long as everything works great :D
I'm using IsMyWebsite, whenever I need for bandwith, disk space, database space, databases, etc. they give me it. If something does go wrong, then so be it and I close while giving the customers database dumps.
Quote from: gamesmad on June 01, 2010, 03:35:00 PM
Sorry I haven't been keeping this thread up to date. I have been working on the admin panel, and also adding support for several more forums. Currently supported forums are -
SMF 1.1.11
SMF 2.0 RC3
phpBB 3.0.7-PL1
myBB 1.4.13
myBB 1.6 Beta (1.5.0.1)
WhiteBoard .1.17
AEF 1.0.8
SMF Multiforum System will be released with support for SMF 1.1.11 and SMF 2.0 RC3. It will be a free modification with no restriction in functionality, full admin panel included.
Addons, allowing users to choose from other types of forum, will be available at a cost of £10 ($15) each, and will include updates. It will be specifically against the software license to create or use addons that have not been purchased.
Copyright removal will be available at a cost of £50 ($75).
Please note that full functionality for both versions of SMF, including the admin panel is totally free.
Personally, I wouldn't suggest running this script on a free host. We're talking about a *lot* of space and bandwidth here.
ok, guess I won't be creating any for my host. I can still install different multiforum scripts that are in no way integrated with SMF or the Multiforum System for each forum software I want to host right? Or is it against the license to use, say AEF Multiforums, on the same domain as SMF Multiforums System.
Yes, it would be fine to use another separate multiforum script on the same domain, but it can't be integrated with SMF Multiforum System.
ok, good, since I already found my scripts for AEF, MyBB, and phpBB.
Seems like it's coming along nicely! Now stop answering questions and get working on it, or I'll have to lock you in my basement. Wait, I don't have a basement O_o
Quote from: Liam. on June 01, 2010, 08:24:22 PM
Seems like it's coming along nicely! Now stop answering questions and get working on it, or I'll have to lock you in my basement. Wait, I don't have a basement O_o
LOL.
But I do :P We can lock him up down there :D
Not to rush you, but is there any timeframe on the public beta?
Basements. This should be another topic. Yes, any timeframe? But take ur time coding it, don't want you DYING doing it!!
Oh, you said different versions of SMF SUCH AS 1.1.11 and 2.0 RC3, will we be able to use other SMF versions like 1.0.19? Because I know some people that like 1.0 better for some reason.
Quote from: Jntg4 on June 02, 2010, 01:56:26 PM
Oh, you said different versions of SMF SUCH AS 1.1.11 and 2.0 RC3, will we be able to use other SMF versions like 1.0.19? Because I know some people that like 1.0 better for some reason.
Ask them why. And to be honest if it supports that, not too many people should choose it. Why would someone choose 1.0.X?
I don't know, maybe because of some mods that only work with 1.0 being more important to them than the features included in later versions.
Most 1.0 mods have been updated to 1.1.X - and others there are alternatives for.
However, 2.0 RC1 and RC2/3 would be a more acceptible thing...
Quote from: Jntg4 on June 02, 2010, 01:56:26 PM
Oh, you said different versions of SMF SUCH AS 1.1.11 and 2.0 RC3, will we be able to use other SMF versions like 1.0.19? Because I know some people that like 1.0 better for some reason.
There most likely won't be support for SMF 1.0.X unless a lot of people want it.
I need some Beta testers. If you are interested, make a post, the most appropriate people will be chosen.
Quote from: gamesmad on June 03, 2010, 01:50:44 PM
Quote from: Jntg4 on June 02, 2010, 01:56:26 PM
Oh, you said different versions of SMF SUCH AS 1.1.11 and 2.0 RC3, will we be able to use other SMF versions like 1.0.19? Because I know some people that like 1.0 better for some reason.
There most likely won't be support for SMF 1.0.X unless a lot of people want it.
I need some Beta testers. If you are interested, make a post, the most appropriate people will be chosen.
I can help you on getting first public beta :)
I'd also be happy to BETA test this for you ;) I have an underused VPS I could try it on...
I want to test. I have an SMF 2.0 RC3 forum set up for testing it already. And I also have a heavily modded site I use for teasting different mods taht I don't use anymore that I can test it on.
Quote from: Yağız... on June 03, 2010, 01:57:35 PM
Quote from: gamesmad on June 03, 2010, 01:50:44 PM
Quote from: Jntg4 on June 02, 2010, 01:56:26 PM
Oh, you said different versions of SMF SUCH AS 1.1.11 and 2.0 RC3, will we be able to use other SMF versions like 1.0.19? Because I know some people that like 1.0 better for some reason.
There most likely won't be support for SMF 1.0.X unless a lot of people want it.
I need some Beta testers. If you are interested, make a post, the most appropriate people will be chosen.
I can help you on getting first public beta :)
I can too!
When is the testing starting?
What's the latest on this?
I'm doing my best, as soon as it's ready, beta testers will get it :)
ok, thanks for the update.
I have added support for a multiforum to have more than one database, and the created forums get evenly distributed between the different databases. This stops a slowdown when a lot of forums are made, and is adjustable as not every server is the same. There is no maximum number of databases either. The beta will be available as soon as it can be :)
AWESOME!!!
Great, Great, Idea.
Except I would have to use one 200MB max sized DB. godaddy only allows 25 DB's on my middle level hosting. Once I get a job I will upgrade to unlimited and have unlimited DB. That will be good.
Quote from: Kcmartz on June 14, 2010, 11:19:06 AM
Except I would have to use one 200MB max sized DB. godaddy only allows 25 DB's on my middle level hosting. Once I get a job I will upgrade to unlimited and have unlimited DB. That will be good.
*headdesk*
There's no such thing as unlimited.
Well you know what I mean, enough for like 25 years, for example. 200MB will last for a single install, but a free forum host, you will need bigger DB if you were to use a single DB. if I was allowed unlimited DB, I would do that. but my limit is 25 for my account, and 200MB each...
Quote from: Kcmartz on June 15, 2010, 01:40:06 PM
Well you know what I mean, enough for like 25 years, for example. 200MB will last for a single install, but a free forum host, you will need bigger DB if you were to use a single DB. if I was allowed unlimited DB, I would do that. but my limit is 25 for my account, and 200MB each...
Thats still not unlimited. Look at all the threads in the hosting review boards; Runic's ones especially.
[super angry sarcasm]
I know! I said "like" ""unlimited"" not unlimited, but like a GB or two would be enough for me!
[/super angry sarcasm]
Any other updates on this?
I just recently got a VPS to run a free hosting and this would be perfect :) I don't wanna use the crappy myBB multiforum.
Anyways, my VPS should be able to handle it and I can always scale up if I have to.
CentOS 5
Apache Powered (Might switch to a faster one like Lightspeed)
512 RAM brustable to 2 GB
Lots of bandwidth :)
Enough diskspace in my opinion
Has full LAMP stack.
Anyways, I want this now :P
good job!! ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Kcmartz on June 14, 2010, 11:19:06 AM
Except I would have to use one 200MB max sized DB. godaddy only allows 25 DB's on my middle level hosting. Once I get a job I will upgrade to unlimited and have unlimited DB. That will be good.
Your better off getting a vps than staying with godaddy.
If I was allowed to switch out. After my client that I will start on in a couple weeks I might switch to hostmonster or something with cPanel. Start with lowest plan to save monry my dad will still pay for domain i'd pay for hosting on hostmonster (unless you suggest something different)
I would not go with hostmonster simply because they offer unlimited diskspace and bandwidth, they are an overseller. But anyways lets not go off topic here this isn't the hosting board.
I don't want to give away to much yet (and this isn't the correct board for it), but those who are considering getting a hosting plan for SMF Multiforum System may want to wait a few days before making a decision on which host to use.
like...?
You never know, a special deal might come up ;)
Just to keep everyone up to date, I'm still working hard on this, currently going over the created forums ACPs with a magnifying glass to make sure people don't get access to things they shouldn't.
I'll keep you all posted :)
Take your time, it'll be great anyway ;)
Kcmartz if you plan to be even half or less of smfforfree you will need a VPS which allows you to use all RAM and CPU. All those SMF forums will use CPU and RAM, also if you plan to fit all those forums in one database, think again :P expect load problems abd database timeouts.
just wait few days.... ;)
Interesting
Yeah it will not work at all on shared hosting... I spend like xx,xxx a year just on servers...
The minimum I would recommend running this on would be a VPS, however as things grow you will most likely notice a huge increase in resources and have to progress onto a larger server or stop accepting new forums.
Put simply, if you want to host 100 forums, a VPS is fine, if you want to host 100,000 forums, your going to need a lot more.
then that shoots down my hopes :(
Quote from: Kcmartz on June 19, 2010, 01:13:50 AM
then that shoots down my hopes :(
What were you thinking ? That you can host 10,000 forums on a shared server ? Great.
Quote from: Afro on June 19, 2010, 03:58:44 AM
Quote from: Kcmartz on June 19, 2010, 01:13:50 AM
then that shoots down my hopes :(
What were you thinking ? That you can host 10,000 forums on a shared server ? Great.
Even worse someone here wants to use free hosting. ::)
Quote from: Kcmartz on June 19, 2010, 01:13:50 AM
then that shoots down my hopes :(
Quote from: gamesmad on June 18, 2010, 11:20:29 AM
You never know, a special deal might come up ;)
Quote from: flapjack on June 18, 2010, 05:06:32 PM
just wait few days.... ;)
Quote from: Afro on June 19, 2010, 03:58:44 AM
What were you thinking ? That you can host 10,000 forums on a shared server ? Great.
Quote from: smp420 on June 19, 2010, 04:58:10 AM
Even worse someone here wants to use free hosting. ::)
Multiforum owners using poor quality shared hosting, or free hosting will be the first ones to go down. Unfortunately that means that some people will lose their created forums as a result of others incompetence, but after time the reliable multiforums will be the only ones around. How many will succeed? How many will fail? I have no idea ::)
Just release it anyway games. I have a vps that is underused . I could beta test if you want.
Of course I'm going to release it :) I was just observing that there will unfortunately be a rush of newbie hosting providers because of this script, and a lot of them won't survive because they will overload their hosting/server. Nothing that can really be done about that though, just means that the best will have to do more to set themselves apart from the rest :P
So any idea when the public release will be out.
what if i hosted 1-5 (friends/family)? would that be better?
@smp420 As soon as the private beta test is over, it won't be too long I promise ;)
@Kcmartz You will have no problems hosting that many forums with a shared hosting package, as long as they don't grow a lot in size.
Well I am not even sure my friends will accept, one of my friends owns http://storms-world.com (forum.storms-world.com) and he won't since he owns one already, but I have 3 friends that like art, and might, not exactly sure, once I have a regular job that can pay for a VPS, I will def. keep this in mind, is it possible to limit their boards/etc?
Quote from: Kcmartz on June 20, 2010, 01:56:57 AM
Well I am not even sure my friends will accept, one of my friends owns http://storms-world.com (forum.storms-world.com) and he won't since he owns one already, but I have 3 friends that like art, and might, not exactly sure, once I have a regular job that can pay for a VPS, I will def. keep this in mind, is it possible to limit their boards/etc?
So how is this anybody's business ?
Quote from: gamesmad on June 19, 2010, 09:53:06 PM
@smp420 As soon as the private beta test is over, it won't be too long I promise ;)
@Kcmartz You will have no problems hosting that many forums with a shared hosting package, as long as they don't grow a lot in size.
Forum are supposed to be growing, so he better get ready for it.
What is even the need to host multiple forums when you cant market one properly ?
Seriously i am beginning to see the reasons why vbgammer was against this being free, but of course the decision lies with mod author.
Quote from: Afro on June 20, 2010, 04:26:26 AM
Seriously i am beginning to see the reasons why vbgammer was against this being free, but of course the decision lies with mod author.
SMF Multiforum System will be free. I'm debating whether or not to make the admin panel a paid extra though. Opinions?
Because SMF Multiforum System supports several other forum scripts, I have decided to adjust the way that things are being done (in terms of integration), and accordingly this has set back the first public release slightly. Private Beta testing will start on 2nd July. The Beta Testers will be -
Yağız...
Liam.
Jntg4
Kcmartz
Royalduke
If you guys would be able to sign up over at http://www.forumscommunity.com so I can assign you a usergroup, that would be great.
The first public release of SMF Multiforum System (v0.2) will be available soon, just as soon as the Beta Testers finish tearing it apart ;)
Already signed up. And I can't wait to test it out.
Signed up with the name: Yagiz.
Just signed up! waiting!
If you want I have a smfms google code hosting, I don't use, if you want it I could undelete it (it's on googles deletion schedule)
I was planning on getting this out for a private beta today, however I (unfortunately) must go to work, and I haven't quite finished packaging it up yet.
When I get back (around 2am UK time), if I'm not too tired, I'll get it finished and sent out to the Beta Testers. Expect a PM over at Forums Community soon guys!
Ok, or you could email me with pic here, as I will get it on my phone and computer!
Slightly delayed, but the private beta test of SMF Multiforum System (v0.1) is currently in progress!
Slightly delayed signup, but I've just registered there under the name of 'Liam'...
Quote from: gamesmad on July 03, 2010, 12:21:24 PM
Slightly delayed, but the private beta test of SMF Multiforum System (v0.1) is currently in progress!
Hello, I'm really interested in this to check if it can works also with a drupal multi-sites installations.
I hope to see or test it soon.
Oskar
Yes, the system will be compatible with Drupal installations, whether that will be a paid addon or not, I haven't thought about yet. You can test out the system at http://www.forumscommunity.com
Due to how complicated I have made this project for myself (mainly by supporting multiple forum scripts), I have decided to make this an Object Orientated project. The main class is nearly done, and will be far easier for me to update in the future, aswell as easier for multiforum owners to integrate with their websites in unique ways.
As such, there will be one more private beta, due to the huge changes in the way things are done, then, we're on for a release :)
just on a side note: thanks for not having guts to answer any of my PMs, and good luck with all you future projects
2.0RC3 support yet?
You can remove me from the beta listers list, I really don't have to time to test it.
if it worked i would like it for my forum
it looks good
but also i run 2.0 rc3 :L
Brilliant!!!
It's a pity about not being able to use vbgamer45's mods, but I understand the reasoning.
@Liam> Didn't know only SMF Heroes had control over their own topic... ;)
@gamesmad> Why is PrettyURLs still listed as a forbidden mod in your first post? It's been confirmed as allowed since it's a BSD mod...
And yes I totally allow for my mods to be used in this system, even though I also have a competitor (noisen.com). The difference is I'm not doing it for anything else than the fun of it.
I would suggest a feature that would allow the main admin of the forum itself to install mods on all sites below him, or specific ones and make them uninstallable so if they want a feature or a mod installed the sub-admin could not undo it.
nice i signed up and ita fully working
are you going to make it create subdomains?
and will it ever be public and for 2.0 RC3?
Thanks
make the sign up open a page like this:
http://www.smfforfree3.com/free-forum.php
i think he has a good idea doing that
diamondred, theres a whole point of vbgamers mods not being allowed, you think copying his signup form will be a good idea?
I changed my mind on mods does not matter now.
any news on this mod? any idea when it'll be made public?
Im guessing thats a no then
Oh wow, this looks very awesome. I can't wait to see it done.
vbgamer should just make an extra fat donate button on his mods readmes so that forum host consumers still get the full experience of SMF. I don't think it's fair at all to keep a certain group of people away from your mods just because they choose a different forum host then the one you want them to. :/
I understand that you want to keep your forum host exclusive, but that is really not what the web is about. Accept your competition, you'll probably have a lot of it once SMF stabilizes to 2.0. I'm not trying to bring you down, I'm simply stating the fact that the nice thing to do would be to let people use those mods! Just make them put an "SMFFORFREE.COM" banner or link in their copyright.
Can't be downloaded?
løque:
[private] [beta]
Is this project still alive?
That mod is interesting! :(