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SMF Support => SMF 2.0.x Support => Topic started by: locutusweb on January 18, 2011, 08:13:47 AM

Title: Permissionlevel for admin profile field
Post by: locutusweb on January 18, 2011, 08:13:47 AM
In the profile field, it's possible to make that field only visible by setting the privacy level at "This field is only visible to admins".

The problem is that a member wants to help out on my private forum. So I gave him some extended moderator permissions, like registering new members. All this works just fine, but what permission do I have to give him to make this field visible for him? Please note, I don't wat to give him full admin rights...

TIA
Title: Re: Permissionlevel for admin profile field
Post by: Illori on January 18, 2011, 08:21:37 AM
there is no way to do what you want, you can request a mod request though.
Title: Re: Permissionlevel for admin profile field
Post by: locutusweb on January 18, 2011, 08:33:08 AM
Thanks for your blazing fast answer.

So this is only possible by giving him admin rights? Right?
Title: Re: Permissionlevel for admin profile field
Post by: Illori on January 18, 2011, 08:38:48 AM
or having a mod made which would be better then giving someone admin rights as then they could kill your whole forum.
Title: Re: Permissionlevel for admin profile field
Post by: locutusweb on January 18, 2011, 08:59:38 AM
True....
Title: Re: Permissionlevel for admin profile field
Post by: Road Rash Jr. on January 18, 2011, 09:02:04 AM
Global Moderator works fine already built in
Title: Re: Permissionlevel for admin profile field
Post by: Illori on January 18, 2011, 09:06:23 AM
but a global moderator can not edit the admin only fields, which is what the op wanted.
Title: Re: Permissionlevel for admin profile field
Post by: Road Rash Jr. on January 18, 2011, 09:09:06 AM
Yes he can
Title: Re: Permissionlevel for admin profile field
Post by: Illori on January 18, 2011, 09:18:32 AM
what about admin ONLY do you not get? a field that is for admin only to edit is for admin ONLY, hence the ops question.
Title: Re: Permissionlevel for admin profile field
Post by: locutusweb on January 18, 2011, 09:25:06 AM
What about I create a membergroup based on the admin permissions, but without the member touching the configuration section of SMF?
Title: Re: Permissionlevel for admin profile field
Post by: Road Rash Jr. on January 18, 2011, 09:26:32 AM
Have you tried it yourself? Works fine on all my forums. Global Moderators can see and edit those extra fields, they can even create them.
Using RC4 on over 25 forums.
Title: Re: Permissionlevel for admin profile field
Post by: Road Rash Jr. on January 18, 2011, 09:39:13 AM
Quote from: locutusweb on January 18, 2011, 09:25:06 AM
What about I create a membergroup based on the admin permissions, but without the member touching the configuration section of SMF?

That's what the Global Moderator does only limited by the restrictions you place in their permission settings.
Title: Re: Permissionlevel for admin profile field
Post by: Spoogs on January 18, 2011, 09:40:57 AM
No one can see those fields without the "Administrate Forum & Database" permission if they are set to admin only
If your globals can see them, then you must have given them that permission
Title: Re: Permissionlevel for admin profile field
Post by: Road Rash Jr. on January 18, 2011, 09:53:17 AM
Quote from: Spoogs on January 18, 2011, 09:40:57 AM
No one can see those fields without the "Administrate Forum & Database" permission if they are set to admin only
If your globals can see them, then you must have given them that permission

You hit the nail on the head. The Global mod with full unrestricted permissions is the same as admin only they can't see or change the forum server settings.
But they have access to everything else the admin can see or do.
Title: Re: Permissionlevel for admin profile field
Post by: Spoogs on January 18, 2011, 09:54:34 AM
but see since thats a permission... it wouldnt be that "Globals" can do it... anyone with that permission can do it ;)

[however its not something I'd recommended to anyone unless you truly trust said person(s)]

And yes they can change the sever settings... try it! (well they can change the info at least)
Title: Re: Permissionlevel for admin profile field
Post by: Road Rash Jr. on January 18, 2011, 10:00:19 AM
Quote from: Spoogs on January 18, 2011, 09:54:34 AM
but see since thats a permission... it wouldnt be that "Globals" can do it... anyone with that permission can do it ;)

[however its not something I'd recommended to anyone unless you truly trust said person(s)]

And yes they can change the sever settings... try it! (well they can change the info at least)

Works for me on my forums. ;D 
Title: Re: Permissionlevel for admin profile field
Post by: Spoogs on January 18, 2011, 10:01:49 AM
Oh sure  8) you i'm not worried about... but rather the OP know what they're gettinig into with that permission
Title: Re: Permissionlevel for admin profile field
Post by: locutusweb on January 18, 2011, 10:18:45 AM
Okay, guys. I have tested it and is possible, the downside is: you are giving your moderator full access to your forum. I do have to think about that.
Title: Re: Permissionlevel for admin profile field
Post by: Spoogs on January 18, 2011, 10:21:34 AM
Before you decide how to proceed I'd suggest doing as Illori stated and post a mod request to see if someone is willing to make such a mod http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?board=79.0
Title: Re: Permissionlevel for admin profile field
Post by: Road Rash Jr. on January 18, 2011, 10:26:34 AM
Quote from: locutusweb on January 18, 2011, 10:18:45 AM
Okay, guys. I have tested it and is possible, the downside is: you are giving your moderator full access to your forum. I do have to think about that.

Yup, giving any permissions to any level of members group has it's upside and downside. You as the admin need to weigh your options and decide if you TRUST that person enough. One mistake many make is give admin to someone. That should never happen IMO under any circustance.
Title: Re: Permissionlevel for admin profile field
Post by: Road Rash Jr. on January 18, 2011, 10:29:12 AM
Quote from: Spoogs on January 18, 2011, 10:21:34 AM
Before you decide how to proceed I'd suggest doing as Illori stated and post a mod request to see if someone is willing to make such a mod http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?board=79.0 (http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?board=79.0)

Why have someone make a mod for something built into the program? That makes no sense. He's already seen he can do what he wants without a mod, he just has to decide if he really wants this or not.
Title: Re: Permissionlevel for admin profile field
Post by: locutusweb on January 18, 2011, 10:31:46 AM
Nice words. I do trust the guy, but he is quite new to SMF and he could break stuff by mistake... Like I said I will think about it.

I won't ask for a mod request, IMO this tiny thing isn't worth any coding time. Thanks for the suggestion anyway.
Title: Re: Permissionlevel for admin profile field
Post by: Spoogs on January 18, 2011, 10:35:36 AM
I'll make the request :)

I've always wanted permissions for this.

I'd beg to differ, I'd much rather have a mod that to grant that kind of access to anyone just for them to see those fields... if I'm giving anyone admin permissions it has to be based on more than just wanting them to see those fields.
Title: Re: Permissionlevel for admin profile field
Post by: locutusweb on January 18, 2011, 10:40:08 AM
Okay, It would be nice, but it's a low priority. Where did you post it?
Title: Re: Permissionlevel for admin profile field
Post by: Road Rash Jr. on January 18, 2011, 10:44:02 AM
Quote from: Spoogs on January 18, 2011, 10:35:36 AM
I'll make the request :)

I've always wanted permissions for this.

I'd beg to differ, I'd much rather have a mod that to grant that kind of access to anyone just for them to see those fields... if I'm giving anyone admin permissions it has to be based on more than just wanting them to see those fields.

You don't have to give them admin permission. Just full Global Moderator permission.
Title: Re: Permissionlevel for admin profile field
Post by: Spoogs on January 18, 2011, 10:49:20 AM
What I meant is that I'm not giving anyone "Admin forum and database" permission just to be able to view/edit those fields


Quote from: locutusweb on January 18, 2011, 10:40:08 AM
Okay, It would be nice, but it's a low priority. Where did you post it?
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=417924.0

Title: Re: Permissionlevel for admin profile field
Post by: Road Rash Jr. on January 18, 2011, 10:51:45 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Permissionlevel for admin profile field
Post by: Illori on January 18, 2011, 11:09:23 AM
I have seen other people also request this, so a mod to do so would be useful to many people.