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Simple Machines => News and Updates => Topic started by: Norv on June 11, 2011, 07:43:37 PM

Title: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Norv on June 11, 2011, 07:43:37 PM
Simple Machines Forum Team is proud to announce the release of the long awaited SMF 2.0 Final version to the public.

This release marks the transition of SMF 2.0 into the current stable release of SMF, as well as the rebirth of the SMF project as open source software, as it was meant from the start.
As of now, SMF is licensed under the BSD License (http://www.simplemachines.org/about/smf/license.php).

Also, SMF 1.1.14 was released, addressing a vulnerability found in SMF 1.1.13 allowing display name spoofing as well as fixing a MySQL 5.5 compatibility issue. We strongly recommend that all users of 1.1.x line to upgrade as soon as possible.

For users of SMF 2.0 RC5, this release consists primarily of several bug fixes - most notably it fixes the login protection and possibility of real name spoofing. These issues have serious security implications, and we urge users to upgrade to it as soon as possible. For users of SMF 1.1, the changes between 1.1 and 2.0 are too numerous to list here - but we're sure you will be pleased with the new features SMF 2.0 has to offer.

The following are the more important changes and fixes since SMF 2.0 RC5:

For a complete list of changes, please find the changelog as usual, on the downloads (http://download.simplemachines.org/) page, and the list of known issues in SMF 2.0 (http://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/Known_issues#Known_issues_in_SMF_2.0_Final) in the Online Manual (http://wiki.simplemachines.org).

With this release we'd like to take the opportunity to recognize the effort and dedication of all the people who have volunteered their time to help the SMF project. We would like to thank everyone, past and present, who has contributed to the development of SMF over the past years.

Finally - please do not use this topic for support requests. You will get a much quicker and better response by posting in the relevant support board!

Regards,
Simple Machines Forum Team
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: poolhall on June 11, 2011, 07:44:35 PM
Congrats!
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Suki on June 11, 2011, 07:44:51 PM
Yay!  :D


/me dances around!
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: A11214576266 on June 11, 2011, 07:45:04 PM
Congrats to the SMF Team!
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Akyhne on June 11, 2011, 07:48:15 PM
Congrats :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Looking on June 11, 2011, 07:48:24 PM
Maybe I will update my SMF communities to 2.0 in the future but for now I am still a 1.1.14 fan.
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Aaron on June 11, 2011, 07:48:30 PM
So glad to see this out at last! Congratulations, team! :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Burridge on June 11, 2011, 07:49:16 PM
This is the day so many of us have waited for, for years. Thank you SMF team. My gratitude knows no bounds. My upgrade from 2.0 RC5 to 2.0 GOLD was an easy, and non stressful one.
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: -=[Vyorel]=- on June 11, 2011, 07:50:15 PM
Oooo yeaaah! Thank you SMF team!
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Dzonny on June 11, 2011, 07:50:58 PM
Great work everyone :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Tweak on June 11, 2011, 07:52:09 PM
Woo! Congratulations!
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Night09 on June 11, 2011, 07:54:30 PM
Grats guys im sure you are all breathing a sigh of relief! Now the fun begins getting down to some modding. :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Staind on June 11, 2011, 07:55:16 PM
glad it has been released... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Kimojuno on June 11, 2011, 07:59:42 PM
Thank you guys! I hope to use this on my boards soon enough.
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: ApplianceJunk on June 11, 2011, 08:00:42 PM
Yes!!! I have a project or two that I have been waiting for SMF 2.0 before I started.

Thanks!!!
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: vagrant on June 11, 2011, 08:06:32 PM
Congratulations and MANY thanks to all those that must have put in many hours of work on this.
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: CoreISP on June 11, 2011, 08:07:30 PM
Thank you to everyone who made this release possible, in particular the devs.
It has taken a while, but it sure is going to reward the users :)

Thank you! :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Kindred on June 11, 2011, 08:08:52 PM
Yes...  a huge thanks to our devs, who put in a lot of effort for this release. Onward and Upward!
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Bancherd on June 11, 2011, 08:12:00 PM
 :D   Thank you, Guys and Gals.  :D

Great job!  :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: rjckE on June 11, 2011, 08:12:44 PM
Yay! Excellent news!!
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Eudemon on June 11, 2011, 08:14:07 PM
congrat!
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: bork on June 11, 2011, 08:14:39 PM
(https://www.simplemachines.org/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fukbouldering.com%2Fboard%2FSmileys%2FukbCustom%2Fbow.gif&hash=efcb2dbfce2da34c4b426e69aad69576)
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Adish - (F.L.A.M.E.R) on June 11, 2011, 08:17:31 PM
Hooooraayyy!!! Great job team! :)

/me stops biting his nails now...:P
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Iomega0318 on June 11, 2011, 08:22:06 PM
Awesome, glad to see it's out.
Great job.
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: vbgamer45 on June 11, 2011, 08:25:08 PM
Congrats to all for all the work done! Now time to update some sites and mods!
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Matthew K. on June 11, 2011, 08:42:05 PM
Definitely. Thank you very much to all developers who contributed countless hours of work to the development of SMF, to bring the community SMF 2.0.

Congratulations!
Yes...  a huge thanks to our devs, who put in a lot of effort for this release. Onward and Upward!
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: MoreBloodWine on June 11, 2011, 08:44:27 PM
Not askin for support but am curious if those of us who use RC5 will be able to go to 2.0 gold via out sites admin panel like we can with bug patches.
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Adish - (F.L.A.M.E.R) on June 11, 2011, 08:46:56 PM
Not askin for support but am curious if those of us who use RC5 will be able to go to 2.0 gold via out sites admin panel like we can with bug patches.
You will have to use large upgrade package in order to perform the upgrade. The patches as we do for 1.1.x series are mainly for stable releases. The further updates for the 2.0.x branch or 2.x branch whichever is decided by the developers will be patches which can be used within the package manager to update. SMF 2.0 RC5 -> SMF 2.0 GOLD will be only via large upgrade. :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: MoreBloodWine on June 11, 2011, 08:48:36 PM
So that means wiping out all my custom stuff then right ?
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Adish - (F.L.A.M.E.R) on June 11, 2011, 08:52:02 PM
Well, we had a statement in red saying "This version of SMF is in development! Please do not use it on a production website!". It has been like this since the Beta release of SMF 2.0. A few patches were released considering the circumstances, however, that will not be the case with this one.

Your custom code will be gone, but the entries in the database should still be there. So, that should get you back rolling as soon as you place the custom codes are back into the files. ;)
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: -=[Vyorel]=- on June 11, 2011, 08:53:45 PM
Stupid question: What it's BSD?
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: MoreBloodWine on June 11, 2011, 08:55:55 PM
I dont have alot of custom coding done, it's stuff thats easy to re edit, I just dont want to if I dont have to but ty for answering ;-)
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Adish - (F.L.A.M.E.R) on June 11, 2011, 08:57:46 PM
It is a type of license which is used for the Simple Machines Forum project 2.0: http://www.simplemachines.org/about/smf/license.php (It may not be 100% updated as of now, but that should give you a general idea.)

MoreBloodWine,
No worries. :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Rioux on June 11, 2011, 08:58:11 PM
Congrats to the SMF Team! :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Eudemon on June 11, 2011, 09:00:41 PM
SMF 2.0 RC5 -> SMF 2.0 GOLD will be only via large upgrade. :)

but in the download page it says under small package
"Using SMF 2.0 RC5? This small package will get you up to speed."
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: SebaS on June 11, 2011, 09:00:59 PM
Great Job!!!  :D
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Illori on June 11, 2011, 09:03:36 PM
the small upgrade package is only for those that do not have any mods installed.
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: -=[Vyorel]=- on June 11, 2011, 09:05:35 PM
It is a type of license which is used for the Simple Machines Forum project 2.0: http://www.simplemachines.org/about/smf/license.php (It may not be 100% updated as of now, but that should give you a general idea.)

MoreBloodWine,
No worries. :)
Thanks for reply.
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Darkness_Black on June 11, 2011, 09:08:37 PM
Congratulations for all Team
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Eudemon on June 11, 2011, 09:10:20 PM
the small upgrade package is only for those that do not have any mods installed.

i thought the small package overrides files that have been changed by mods also
thx for the comment tho
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: agent47 on June 11, 2011, 09:17:38 PM
Woohoo! The wait is finally over.
Good job SMF team. You guys have been brilliant over the years and continue to do so. Keep it up fellas! You guys rule!
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: EgAr on June 11, 2011, 09:25:04 PM
Congrats  :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Gary on June 11, 2011, 09:34:27 PM
It's aboot dern time! Dagnabbit.
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Antechinus on June 11, 2011, 09:45:28 PM
ROFL. Yeah, it is.
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Dannii on June 11, 2011, 09:48:03 PM
Hurrah!
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: MC73 on June 11, 2011, 09:52:21 PM
So far So good on my test site .... Thanks to Everyone that was involved - From regular members all the way to the Devs :) Thank You , MC
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: shadow82x on June 11, 2011, 09:54:12 PM
Congrats team! It's finally here.
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: mchero on June 11, 2011, 10:03:25 PM
RAWHIDE! CONGRATS!
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: ModelBoatMayhem on June 11, 2011, 10:10:24 PM

For us Luddites, is there a guide to converting from 1.1.x to 2?


Also Is there a forum member guide for 'new world' 2.0 forum?

 Thanks,  M
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Kindred on June 11, 2011, 10:11:49 PM
http://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/Upgrading



the help pages for 2.0 reside on the smf wiki.
http://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/Category:As_a_regular_user
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Omega X on June 11, 2011, 10:13:18 PM
Woooo! Good job.

Now the whiners can stop complaining about SMF not being OSS.
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Kindred on June 11, 2011, 10:14:01 PM
those whiners could stop complaining years ago...
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: busterone on June 11, 2011, 10:21:16 PM
Thanks team.  :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: ModelBoatMayhem on June 11, 2011, 10:23:21 PM
Many thanks!      :)

http://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/Upgrading (http://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/Upgrading)

the help pages for 2.0 reside on the smf wiki.
http://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/Category:As_a_regular_user (http://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/Category:As_a_regular_user)

Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: trebul on June 11, 2011, 10:23:50 PM
I know SMF has been through a lot of changes. To see 2.0 final out, it's awesome! Thanks to all who contributed!
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Gary on June 11, 2011, 10:33:29 PM
I know SMF has been through a lot of changes. To see 2.0 final out, it's awesome! Thanks to all who contributed!
Except that Gary M. Gadsdon guy. He was a twat! I hate him so much!

:P


Upgrading was painless as always. This is the first time in five years MT2 is running a stable release. The last being 1.1.2. :P
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Anthony` on June 11, 2011, 10:38:10 PM
Congratulations SMF!
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: opheliagrimm on June 11, 2011, 10:44:22 PM
Congrats guys, can't wait to take it for a spin!
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Dannii on June 11, 2011, 10:45:38 PM
It's not whining to point out that you were inconsistently applying the old licence and were risking it not being legally valid.

Now, how long till the svn is public access? :D
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: ethankcvds on June 11, 2011, 11:03:00 PM
Now, how long till the svn is public access? :D

Probably by the year 4040 or later.  :laugh:
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: ModelBoatMayhem on June 11, 2011, 11:11:17 PM
Just installed it on my test forum.... (webinstall)

"Unknown column 'a.attachment_type' in 'field list'"


 ... don't think I'll be installing it on my live forum just yet!!!!   :-\
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: AllanD on June 11, 2011, 11:19:56 PM
Great job all thank you
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: ModelBoatMayhem on June 11, 2011, 11:34:19 PM
Just tried again using the "Large upgrade"., it has now installed but I've lost ALL modifications, and customised settings. Display blocks are all over the place and title blocks like "search" don't appear at all !!
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: vbgamer45 on June 11, 2011, 11:37:36 PM
Using the large upgrade or upgrading to any version will remove any customized code and modifications.
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Xarcell on June 11, 2011, 11:48:56 PM
about damn time!

good job guys, glad to see SMF finally moving forward.
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Eliana Tamerin on June 11, 2011, 11:55:57 PM
A hearty congratulations to everyone on and off the team who made this release possible. I'm glad this is finally out!
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: .ABM. on June 12, 2011, 12:17:07 AM
Congrats
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: pitta on June 12, 2011, 12:25:39 AM
thanks
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: bugstomper on June 12, 2011, 12:29:50 AM
Is there any information on the two security related fixes in 2.0 ("login protection" and "possibility of real name spoofing") that would allow people who want to wait to make sure that their mods are 2.0 Gold compatible before upgrading to patch just the security holes immediately?
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 12, 2011, 12:48:18 AM
Awesome work! Sadly for now I will probably stick to 1.1.14, though, because I worked quite hard on some of my forum themes, so I would rather wait until there's a 100% reliable 1.1.x to 2.0 theme converter.

I'M glad it'S finally out, though. Good job SMF team :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: ARG01 on June 12, 2011, 12:52:39 AM
(https://www.simplemachines.org/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dzinerstudio.com%2FSmileys%2Fnew%2Fcheers.gif&hash=914d0c163d317e09c24fa80def7e0c25)
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: InstilledBee on June 12, 2011, 01:17:45 AM
Congrats and Thank you SMF team! :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Bigguy on June 12, 2011, 01:36:55 AM
Excellent job to everyone on and off the team that made this possible. It was a bumpy road getting here but we have arrived. Enjoy it everyone, I know I will. :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Bikken on June 12, 2011, 01:38:23 AM
Nice work. Congratz team!  ;)
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Alpay on June 12, 2011, 01:41:25 AM
Nice work ;)
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Azeris on June 12, 2011, 01:53:42 AM
Congratulations for all Team  8)
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: codebirth on June 12, 2011, 02:02:16 AM
Thanks!
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Nick Whetstone on June 12, 2011, 02:05:01 AM
Congrats (and thanks) to the Dev team!
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Vekseid on June 12, 2011, 02:05:17 AM
Hooray! And congratulations!
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Owdy on June 12, 2011, 02:06:47 AM
I'm speechless. Its been so long since last gold (http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=131008.0). Good work guys, you did it :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: codenaught on June 12, 2011, 02:11:14 AM
A big kudos to the past and current SMF team! It was a long tough battle to get through, but with a little persistence you all managed to make the release of 2.0 finally happen.

I know people will already be thinking ahead to the future at what comes next, but please take just a moment to appreciate the product we have now. It appears to be stable, secure, fast and customizable with a large selection of mods and themes contributed by many people from the community and SMF team. Most important, SMF is free, and it always will be.

It was a good time serving the SMF team for many years and I couldn't be more happy signing my name to finalize the transfer to an NPO. I think Simple Machines will have a bright future to come. The BSD license change will likely make things interesting and exciting for years to come!

Best of luck! Here's to 2.0!
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Robert. on June 12, 2011, 02:13:19 AM
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! :D :D
Congrats team! :D Thanks for your hard work :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: MarkLeevE on June 12, 2011, 02:14:14 AM
How to upgrade rc5 into gold version? :D
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Owdy on June 12, 2011, 02:15:15 AM
How to upgrade rc5 into gold version? :D
http://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/Upgrading
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Nathaniel on June 12, 2011, 02:32:40 AM
Congratulations! :D

Yay for the new license as well! :D
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Kindred on June 12, 2011, 02:33:00 AM
Awesome work! Sadly for now I will probably stick to 1.1.14, though, because I worked quite hard on some of my forum themes, so I would rather wait until there's a 100% reliable 1.1.x to 2.0 theme converter.

Unlikely... The theme system in 2.0 is significantly different and has much less "code" in it. 2.0 themes try to focus on the template and not on the functions.

Is there any information on the two security related fixes in 2.0 ("login protection" and "possibility of real name spoofing") that would allow people who want to wait to make sure that their mods are 2.0 Gold compatible before upgrading to patch just the security holes immediately?


 Not really...
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Fussilet on June 12, 2011, 02:41:06 AM
Thank you SMF Team!
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: iMiKK on June 12, 2011, 02:47:27 AM
It's the great news!. Thank for all the person who has been associated with project.
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: InfoStrides on June 12, 2011, 03:00:56 AM
Congratulations and thanks for the great job!
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Antechinus on June 12, 2011, 03:05:58 AM
Awesome work! Sadly for now I will probably stick to 1.1.14, though, because I worked quite hard on some of my forum themes, so I would rather wait until there's a 100% reliable 1.1.x to 2.0 theme converter.

Honestly, that is very unlikely to ever happen. However, since most themes are really fairly minor changes to default (images, css and index.template.php being the most common) it isn't all that hard to recreate a 1.1.x theme in 2.0, as long as you have some basic coding knowledge and a bit of persistence.

Is there any information on the two security related fixes in 2.0 ("login protection" and "possibility of real name spoofing") that would allow people who want to wait to make sure that their mods are 2.0 Gold compatible before upgrading to patch just the security holes immediately?

You'll probably find that most mods which work with RC4 and RC5 will also work with 2.0 Final, as long as you use version emulation. If there are any which are particularly important to you, set up a test site running 2.0 Final and try installing your mods on that first.
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Joomlamz on June 12, 2011, 03:18:33 AM
Great work everyone
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Spale on June 12, 2011, 03:27:59 AM
Great news! I was waiting for this for a long time...  :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Masterd on June 12, 2011, 04:45:45 AM
This is a very happy day! Congratulations everyone! :D
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: inter on June 12, 2011, 04:55:02 AM
sorry my English  ;)

why in the basement of the forum has three links leading to this site used to be two links  ???

Why help section leads to this site?
and by the way she does not help here translated or missing in Russian?
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Trekkie101 on June 12, 2011, 05:18:07 AM
Fantastic :D
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Burridge on June 12, 2011, 05:25:11 AM
why in the basement of the forum has three links leading to this site used to be two links  ???
I think one links to the site, one links to the copyright, and I can't remember what the third links to xD
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Antechinus on June 12, 2011, 05:28:31 AM
sorry my English  ;)

why in the basement of the forum has three links leading to this site used to be two links  ???

Why help section leads to this site?
and by the way she does not help here translated or missing in Russian?

Sorry my Russian. ;)

The help on the wiki hasn't been translated into all languages yet. If you want to go back to using the old system until the wiki is translated, install this mod: http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=3043 (http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=3043)

You will still be able to get the old Russian help files to go with that mod.

ETA: Third link is to the license itself.
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Nolt on June 12, 2011, 05:43:44 AM
Thank you guys for your great work put in this project. Finally we have stable 2.0!

PS So we now waiting for SMF 3.0  ;D
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: grafitus on June 12, 2011, 05:59:52 AM
Congrats guys! :)

I should code a few mods more... Vrrr...
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: DaRKeN_58 on June 12, 2011, 06:15:06 AM
Congratulations SMF! :):):)

Now it is time to update ;)
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: GravuTrad on June 12, 2011, 06:18:03 AM
Yohoo!
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: rocknroller on June 12, 2011, 06:18:54 AM
Congrats :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: hefesto on June 12, 2011, 06:23:09 AM
Congratulations!!!!

It's been difficult times, but at the end you were able to do it ;).
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Nidjo123 on June 12, 2011, 06:26:15 AM
Congratulations!  :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: lesmond on June 12, 2011, 07:01:11 AM
Good Job, congrats to the SMF Team (https://www.simplemachines.org/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi55.tinypic.com%2F2upfzwx.jpg&hash=1c91404ff61e13de0b742684937e3346)
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Mrozie on June 12, 2011, 07:08:14 AM
This news makes my day!

Congrats for SMF Team! You're great! :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: bloc on June 12, 2011, 07:22:21 AM
Congrats on getting 2.0 Gold out. :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: The Domain Shop on June 12, 2011, 07:23:17 AM
Congratulations and a big thanks to all the team ;)
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Aoife on June 12, 2011, 07:30:39 AM
Good job all! Thanks for all the hard work!   ;D

Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Sheda on June 12, 2011, 07:37:29 AM
Thank you!
That's perfect timing ;D
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: JBlaze on June 12, 2011, 07:46:56 AM
Congrats!
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: amko_sa on June 12, 2011, 07:49:49 AM
Congratulations! great news!!!  :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Mikasa on June 12, 2011, 08:06:13 AM
Congrats :)
(https://www.simplemachines.org/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys.on-my-web.com%2Frepository%2FRespect%2Fking-033.gif&hash=750448a94400b5d75708b0fc7fafa419)
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Sudhakar Arjunan on June 12, 2011, 08:12:49 AM
Long awaited Release.

Congrates to the entire team. keep rocking SMF.  8)
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Paranoimia on June 12, 2011, 08:20:01 AM
Awesome, awesome, awesome, awesome, awesome, awesome, awesome news!

Now I just need to find time to upgrade my site.
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: redone on June 12, 2011, 08:51:15 AM
Congrats!

~RedOne
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen on June 12, 2011, 09:35:48 AM
Damn, I missed the big event completely as I was at sea for the weekend - not home yet, so I don't get to play with this release yet either...
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Mick. on June 12, 2011, 09:46:19 AM
Congrats SMF. The long awaited finally here. You guys rock!
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: RvG on June 12, 2011, 09:53:03 AM
I love you guys... :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: IchBin™ on June 12, 2011, 10:11:18 AM
Well done to all those that participated in this. Good job Devs on fixing so many bugs and keeping things stable. Give yourselves a pat on the back. Here's to future of SMF!!!
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: meetdilip on June 12, 2011, 10:20:37 AM
Congrats Team SMF. You are doing a great job. Hope the WYSIWYG editor issues are fixed :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: TurtleKicker on June 12, 2011, 10:36:03 AM
Stupid question: What it's BSD?

Better answer:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Software_Distribution

BSD is an OS, not just a license. As someone who has run FreeBSD servers since the mid-90s, I felt like clearing that up. :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Norv on June 12, 2011, 10:38:52 AM
BSD License is the license that started on FreeBSD. ;)
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Kindred on June 12, 2011, 10:40:38 AM
But we do not care about the os...   And rather than confuse people with pointless information that has no relation to our release, we clearly stated what the term BSD was, in relation to the release of SMF and use of the term.
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Owdy on June 12, 2011, 10:47:42 AM
Stupid question: What it's BSD?

Better answer:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Software_Distribution


.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_licenses
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: TurtleKicker on June 12, 2011, 10:57:02 AM
Yes, Owdy has a better link. :) It's not a big deal, just wanted to clarify as saying "BSD" and "BSD license" are not the same thing. It'd be like referring to the GPL as "Linux". ;) Not trying to confuse.

Cheers...
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: NanoSector on June 12, 2011, 11:01:55 AM
Really nice work team!!
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: MaXiForum.cz on June 12, 2011, 11:37:54 AM
Spam, spam, spam :D
Thank you team :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: ~DS~ on June 12, 2011, 11:41:53 AM
About fvcking time.
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: MarkLeevE on June 12, 2011, 11:53:22 AM
Does rc5 themes will work for this version?
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Pause on June 12, 2011, 11:54:42 AM
Congratulations to all involved. :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Owdy on June 12, 2011, 11:57:39 AM
Does rc5 themes will work for this version?
Yes. There are minor edits, nothing huge.
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Masterd on June 12, 2011, 11:58:14 AM
Does rc5 themes will work for this version?


They should work fine.

http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=437428.0
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: themavesite on June 12, 2011, 12:29:27 PM
I'm running Powered by SMF 2.0 RC4  with the security patch (it was that or RC5) and with mods.

How do I safely update now?

Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Illori on June 12, 2011, 12:33:14 PM
Upgrading SMF (http://docs.simplemachines.org/index.php?board=3.0;sort=subject)
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Azeris on June 12, 2011, 12:33:53 PM
In order not to open an additional topic will ask here, I RC5+ simpleportal+ 30  mods installed, how do I upgrade?
Great upgrade or small?
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Masterd on June 12, 2011, 12:35:48 PM
You need to use the Large Upgrade package.
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: themavesite on June 12, 2011, 12:46:16 PM
I'm running Powered by SMF 2.0 RC4  with the security patch (it was that or RC5) and with mods.

How do I safely update now?

Upgrading SMF (http://docs.simplemachines.org/index.php?board=3.0;sort=subject)

That doesn't help me, I need a quick guideline on what to do;

I don't even know what package to use.. :/
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Dzonny on June 12, 2011, 12:47:46 PM
themavesite, please dont use this topic for support, go ahaid and open new topic about your problem.
Quick response - U need to use large upgrade pack.
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: PLAYBOY on June 12, 2011, 01:19:10 PM
Finally! Late but good.

How can i update the RC5 to 2.0 from package manager (or any other way which wouldnt affect the installed mods and themes)?
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Dzonny on June 12, 2011, 01:27:24 PM
How can i update the RC5 to 2.0 from package manager (or any other way which wouldnt affect the installed mods and themes)?
You cant. Please read first post and upgrade instructions for more information.
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: noaccess on June 12, 2011, 01:29:33 PM
Finally, thx. :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Lady Night Owl on June 12, 2011, 01:54:00 PM
Excellent news! Thanks!
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: bork on June 12, 2011, 02:10:05 PM

Congratulations and many thanks to all involved in this amazing free forum software.

I hope you all now get to take a well-earned break!
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Illori on June 12, 2011, 02:27:55 PM
there is no package manager upgrade for 2.0 and will not until the next security release. therefore there is no way to upgrade and not effect your mods already installed.
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: NanoSector on June 12, 2011, 02:37:28 PM
Finally! Late but good.

How can i update the RC5 to 2.0 from package manager (or any other way which wouldnt affect the installed mods and themes)?
Manually? :P
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Eagle-no1 on June 12, 2011, 03:15:12 PM
Excellent, thank you very much  ;D
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Utech22 on June 12, 2011, 03:20:03 PM
Great, thanks
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: eldemoledor024 on June 12, 2011, 03:39:25 PM
thanks here from Argentina eternally grateful for his great job

 :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Perspective on June 12, 2011, 03:40:30 PM
OMG.. I'll just check all its features and will wait for 2, 3 more months in order to see what people are saying, if they get problems or not.
If everything is fine I'll update 1.1.14 to 2.0 final.
Congratulations to... everyone who worked on this massive project!
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Andreas on June 12, 2011, 04:19:54 PM
Great News !
Thanx to all !

Andreas
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: c23_Mike on June 12, 2011, 05:08:38 PM
Hi there!

It´s done when it´s done!
Hail to the king baby!
This week is Duke Nukem released, and the second thing we also waited as long for ... SMF 2.0!!
Best week ever!!

Tnx to the coder and all who worked for this great project!
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Kimojuno on June 12, 2011, 05:52:00 PM
I am curious: Why the change from 'gold' to 'final'. :)

Jeff.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Spoogs on June 12, 2011, 06:00:02 PM
Gold = Final
Final = Gold
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Norv on June 12, 2011, 06:06:39 PM
Well, it's not like it's earth shaking (asteroids time is past now), however we don't really name our official topics that way, it slipped in the heat this time, because hey, we need our fun too.  O:)
(j/k btw)
Either way, it wasn't entirely consistent with our other official announcements titles and releases, so when we started to breath again we thought that generally it may be better to stick to those. Or try to. :D
(I know, I'm not fun.)

I think this may explain it better:
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: ARG01 on June 12, 2011, 06:20:01 PM
OMG.. I'll just check all its features and will wait for 2, 3 more months in order to see what people are saying, if they get problems or not.

Going by the flood of support requests I think I will wait a bit before upgrading also. I am quite happy with RC 5 so I think i will stick with it for a month or two.
But, congratz to the devs for all of the hard work put into 2.0. I am sure it will be fine in the long run.  ;)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Vahid on June 12, 2011, 07:15:04 PM
Hi , Thank you For finaly Version :) , Congratulations  to All Member of SMF Team and All User of SMF
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: mcrat on June 12, 2011, 07:21:43 PM
Congrats, great news! I'll be upgrading as soon as I make a new theme to match my site :D
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: ukhalik2 on June 12, 2011, 07:38:00 PM
Thats a great news.. I'll be switching to the final version soon..
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: lucas-ruroken on June 12, 2011, 08:35:42 PM
Really good news ;)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Anguz on June 12, 2011, 09:03:19 PM
This is wonderful! Awesome news! Thanks SMF Team for the new release and license. :D

/me is very happy with this announcement.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Antechinus on June 12, 2011, 09:48:58 PM
Going by the flood of support requests I think I will wait a bit before upgrading also. I am quite happy with RC 5 so I think i will stick with it for a month or two.
But, congratz to the devs for all of the hard work put into 2.0. I am sure it will be fine in the long run.  ;)

We always get a flood of support requests with any new release or patch. I wouldn't read too much into it.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: snork13 on June 12, 2011, 09:53:25 PM
 :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Joker™ on June 12, 2011, 09:56:53 PM
Congrats guys/girlz ;).
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: gisfreak on June 12, 2011, 11:26:23 PM
woooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwww cihouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuyyyyyyyyyyyyyy  ;D ;D ;D

This is time for upgrade, from 1.1.x to 2.x

.................... :o :o :o
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: jkdove on June 13, 2011, 12:03:36 AM
and there was much rejoicing!!!
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Jazhawk on June 13, 2011, 01:34:36 AM
Congrats team!


-Jazhawk
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Spartan117 on June 13, 2011, 02:07:15 AM
Congrats dev team give yourselves a pat on the back  :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: pdtkame on June 13, 2011, 02:20:40 AM
Congrats!
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: hecho on June 13, 2011, 03:16:06 AM
oooooohhhhhhhhhhh yeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh!!!!!!!!!! thankssssssssssssssssssss
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: nilox on June 13, 2011, 03:24:33 AM
WOOOHOOOO!
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Angelina Belle on June 13, 2011, 04:46:13 AM
Congratulations, Norv, Sinan, and Antechinus! You made it happen!
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: klumy on June 13, 2011, 05:30:03 AM
gratulation
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Dummbock on June 13, 2011, 05:34:38 AM
DANKE  ;)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Kissaki on June 13, 2011, 06:33:28 AM
Good move on the License part!
Finally.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: gamesmad on June 13, 2011, 06:37:01 AM
Great Job :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: ab1cor on June 13, 2011, 07:03:47 AM
Thank you, guys for your awesome work!
I hope some hot girls love SMF and do something really grateful for you!

Cheers ;)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: N3RVE on June 13, 2011, 07:37:08 AM
Congrats and a big Thanks to everyone who contributed ;D

-[n3rve]
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Eclipse16V on June 13, 2011, 08:12:27 AM
Ohhhh yeahhhhhh
Congrats

Thanks SMF
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Daniel15 on June 13, 2011, 08:39:50 AM
Wow, awesome! I didn't actually think the final version of SMF 2.0 would ever come out. And BSD licensed, too? Awesome! :D
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Norv on June 13, 2011, 09:19:04 AM
Wow, awesome! I didn't actually think the final version of SMF 2.0 would ever come out. And BSD licensed, too? Awesome! :D

/me snickers.

Good to see to have surprised ya. ;)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: KVL on June 13, 2011, 09:26:34 AM
 Very good and welcome news! :) Many thanks to the SMF team! :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: scythe944 on June 13, 2011, 09:48:12 AM
Thanks! Upgrade went extremely well!
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Pentaxian on June 13, 2011, 09:50:15 AM
Congratulations and thanks!
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: easyrider77 on June 13, 2011, 09:52:35 AM
Hey.. Great News !  Congrats to all team !!
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: lorenzov on June 13, 2011, 10:39:43 AM
Very good and welcome news! :) Many thanks to the SMF team! :)


Absolutely Awesome!
Good good new
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: xpistos on June 13, 2011, 11:57:53 AM
Congrats, but how do I upgrade my 1.1.14 to 2.0 stable?
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Kindred on June 13, 2011, 12:01:30 PM
http://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/Upgrading
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: SJR on June 13, 2011, 12:18:46 PM
Great news on the new license for the final version!  You have been years ahead of phpBB in terms of features and usability for quite some time but were hindered from becoming the dominant PHP bulletin board script because of the old proprietary license. Now we can all use SMF as it truly is an open source licensed project.  :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Kindred on June 13, 2011, 12:35:41 PM
oh, pshaw.... the original license never hindered anything except for people who insist that the GPL is actually worth-while (it's not).
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: laetabi on June 13, 2011, 12:47:17 PM
Congrats to all... really appreciate all the effort of those involved, past and present. I'll admit to being a little concerned at the situation after using 30 months of RC versions, and speculative comments on the future of SMF weren't filling me with warm feelings but you pulled it off.

Thanks all

W
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: MrMike on June 13, 2011, 12:51:48 PM
Outstanding, glad to see it! :)

I'm pretty familiar with the 1.xx versions (maybe even very familiar) so I did a lot of custom tweaks to that version...and so now it looks like maybe I gotta start all over again figuring out how to change some of the internal bits. :) But, from what I've seen it includes a fair number of the custom hacks I normally did, so maybe I won't need to fiddle with it as much.

I've been waiting for this and kept telling people, "It's coming, it's coming..." lol. Some of my friends started referring to SMF 2.0 as the "Duke Nukem" release.

Lol, I *really* took a lot of ribbing when Duke Nukem was actually released a few days ago . :(
But here we are with 2.0 available, and from the reviews for each product I'd have to say that SMF 2.0 has been received much more warmly and enthusiastically than Duke Nukem was. :)

 Anyway, congrats again to the whole team for all the work they did and for keeping SMF at the forefront of open source forum software. Truly an impressive project in many ways.

Cheers!
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Kimojuno on June 13, 2011, 01:34:44 PM
Well, it's not like it's earth shaking (asteroids time is past now), however we don't really name our official topics that way, it slipped in the heat this time, because hey, we need our fun too.  O:)
(j/k btw)
Either way, it wasn't entirely consistent with our other official announcements titles and releases, so when we started to breath again we thought that generally it may be better to stick to those. Or try to. :D
(I know, I'm not fun.)

I think this may explain it better:


Ah, I see. Thanks for the explanation. :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: The Silver Monkey on June 13, 2011, 02:14:50 PM
Glad to see that 2.0 has finally gone gold. :)

I've already upgraded to it, and the process went just about flawlessly. :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: SJR on June 13, 2011, 02:29:39 PM
oh, pshaw.... the original license never hindered anything except for people who insist that the GPL is actually worth-while (it's not).
The old license hindered quite a bit.  I get the impression you are equating GPL with all of open source when in fact it is merely one license of many available.  GPL bashing comments like the one above will not endear this software to the open source community.  Instead of bashing GPL (and by association open source) it should be the primary target for new marketing efforts.  Doors that were previously closed to the project are now open thanks to a licensing change and instead of walking through them you appear to be egging them.  :o  I hope to see the spirit of the new license adopted in the policies and behavior of the project as a whole for a wonderful new addition to the open source community.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen on June 13, 2011, 02:32:13 PM
Thats the thing, we all like Open Source - Some of us just don't think Open Source = GPL.
It doesn't mean GPL is not Open Source, it just means that we preferred BSD License over GPL, while still embracing the ideal that is Open Source :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: [Lucien] on June 13, 2011, 02:38:12 PM
Congrats!! I have been waiting for this day to come  ;D

I'm very exited, i thank everyone who made this possible!
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Kindred on June 13, 2011, 03:41:38 PM
and SJR... my statement was that the ONLY people "hindered" by the original SMF license were those who wanted some integration with a GPL product which could not allow an exception to the silly clauses in the GPL that tried to make everything else GPL.

BSD is a better choice for an Open Source product since there are no silly restrictions (hence the reason we chose it)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Norv on June 13, 2011, 04:16:27 PM
I hope to see the spirit of the new license adopted in the policies and behavior of the project as a whole for a wonderful new addition to the open source community.

That is exactly the intention on many levels. Though we may have different opinions on what that means. :)
Anyway, choosing BSD as license is simply and purely because we believe in people's right to choose what to do with their own code build on SMF, instead of restricting it - in any way. This is particularly important for SMF, since extensions to SMF 2.0 are, currently, mostly as packaged source code modifications. Licenses "in the copyleft camp", if I may say so, would have had impacted them. BSD lets people free to do whatever they choose with their code built on/based on SMF.

SMF is open source, today, open source as in free to use, modify, build on, distribute with or without modifications, without imposing a constraint on the license to the code added/created by people on SMF.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Tattoo Vampire on June 13, 2011, 04:45:16 PM
I think I'll wait a while and see how many "broken modification" reports come in.... I've got about 20 installed and I'm skeered...  ;)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Martine M on June 13, 2011, 05:05:03 PM
congratulations  to the team.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Paracelsus on June 13, 2011, 05:28:46 PM
Congratulations to all the SMF Staff for this important milestone! (applaud)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: searchgr on June 13, 2011, 07:29:06 PM
Congratulations!
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: CountryLady on June 13, 2011, 07:54:32 PM

   SMF 2.0 Gold is Fantastic~!

To everyone who has ever contributed to SMF... 

Thank You for this fantastic FREE Forum Software that helps people all around the world to communicate with each other. I know that MY Life is enriched because of SMF.

Thank you to the Staff who have ALL probably worked harder, and longer than they ever thought was possible, and given the best they've had to give. There are always differences of opinions, but in the end, what is best for the user has prevailed. Not every good idea becomes successful, but through your persistence and dedication, your excellent work will continue to serve the world as SMF's creators envisioned.

If every problem was worked on as diligently as SMF 2.0 Gold has been, there would be far more successful ventures in the world.

For the moment, let us celebrate, toast the efforts and accomplishments of many, and upgrade our forums so that our individual forum members can enjoy the fruits of SMF 2.0 Gold. Let us help each other in the spirit of good will for a time... Then we can begin again to think... Hmm... if only this could... I wonder if... What would happen if... and I bet it would work better if... leading us to strive to improve this software anew.

There are sure to be good things in the works, for talented minds cannot be still for long. I look forward to the next level of SMF accomplishment, and the next, and the next.

Hopefully the Mod and Theme Wizards will quickly busy themselves making magical upgrades for their older work and plotting new and exciting functionality for this awesome SMF 2.0 Gold software. Those of us who are skilled in adapting software should be more appreciative of all Mod & Theme makers. THEY make the salve that allows everything to work 'just right' no matter WHAT we try to do with SMF. So "Thanks in Advance" for weaving your magic for us.

Thank you also to the SMF Support Staff who will be striving to answer our questions and cries for help over and over and over again during the coming weeks as we non-geeks struggle to upgrade our forums to SMF 2.0 Gold. We KNOW we ought to 'get it', and we try, but often fall far short. Thank you for being patient and respectful no matter what. YOU are the ones who ultimately  help us to make the connections which allow many of us to webmaster our forums when everything is said and done. 

Cheers all around.... CL
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Joshua Dickerson on June 13, 2011, 10:40:49 PM
We need help documenting all of the new features and changes... please see http://wiki.simplemachines.org
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: SJR on June 13, 2011, 10:50:09 PM
and SJR... my statement was that the ONLY people "hindered" by the original SMF license were those who wanted some integration with a GPL product which could not allow an exception to the silly clauses in the GPL that tried to make everything else GPL.
Wow.  I'm almost speechless.  Almost.  Again, the old license hindered the adoption of SMF more than it helped it.   I did not "want some integration with a GPL product .." so what could possibly explain why I did not use SMF then?  According to YOU there is NO OTHER explanation.   ::)  Could it be perhaps that I believe in the open source ethos and wish only to use and contribute back to projects that are free1?  Pshaw... can't believe I wasted the last 20 years helping to make free software (Apache, Mozilla, Debian, Ubuntu ...) better, I must be an idiot. Nice marketing technique you have going there, insult a potentially huge new skilled user base.   :o


Notes:
1. Free as in speech not free as in beer.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: agridoc on June 13, 2011, 11:40:02 PM
Congratulations to all that contributed so far.

Now on for SMF 2.1? or 3?
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Neo_TE on June 14, 2011, 12:37:52 AM
(https://www.simplemachines.org/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fassets0.ordienetworks.com%2Fimages%2FGifGuide%2Fclapping%2Faudience.gif&hash=0aacbf645dc493724b7f0a80348f1da6)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: iobit on June 14, 2011, 12:38:17 AM
Thanks a lot great work!  :D
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen on June 14, 2011, 12:46:06 AM
Cheers all around.... CL
Wow... :o

Thank you for all the kind words there, it was very nice to read something so positive for a change!
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: rythreion on June 14, 2011, 01:54:04 AM
can anyone help me to upgrade my forum into 2.0 rc5 or gold?. i try to download the file but when i installed it it say's that the file is corrupted. i need a help
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen on June 14, 2011, 02:08:27 AM
It is not used through the package manager.

Please see our documentation on Upgrading (http://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/Upgrading).
If you need further support, please open a new topic for that in the appropriate board.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Kotofff on June 14, 2011, 03:29:29 AM

         (https://www.simplemachines.org/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.procoder.info%2Fimg%2Fsmiles_big%2FSMILE03.gif&hash=65f31a0328a0f214374993425a39422a)

Thank you so much !!! Success in further developments !!!
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Dannii on June 14, 2011, 03:57:47 AM
and SJR... my statement was that the ONLY people "hindered" by the original SMF license were those who wanted some integration with a GPL product which could not allow an exception to the silly clauses in the GPL that tried to make everything else GPL.
It hindered those who wanted to redistribute the software.
It hindered those who wanted to release themes outside of the official customisation site. (Yes, Bloc and all the others were illegally distributing themes at their websites!)

So it's great that now it is truly FOSS licenced!
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Informatics on June 14, 2011, 05:19:38 AM
Thanks for everything.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: scotchmonster on June 14, 2011, 05:42:37 AM
Unreal, great achievement Boys & Girls  :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: mibthunderbird on June 14, 2011, 05:50:38 AM
Finally, congratulation to SMF team.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: davejo on June 14, 2011, 05:51:20 AM
Congratulations, thanks and well done to one and all for a great job done  ;)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: willemjan on June 14, 2011, 05:54:12 AM
Congratulations to the team!
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Naki-BoT on June 14, 2011, 07:39:54 AM
BSD & 2.0 - Great news.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: musicus on June 14, 2011, 11:27:07 AM
(https://www.simplemachines.org/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmidi-musiker.audiopalace.de%2FSmileys%2Fclassic%2Fliebe.gif&hash=3db421f3aeb349f8d1f691d2c4e5000d)  Thx
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Costin on June 14, 2011, 01:24:40 PM
I'm currently running 1.1.14. If upgrading to 2.0 would it break my theme and plugins? I installed once, by mistake, a theme made for the 2.0 version on my 1.1.11 version and that had a result a complete reinstall...

Thank you
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Burridge on June 14, 2011, 01:30:29 PM
I'm currently running 1.1.14. If upgrading to 2.0 would it break my theme and plugins? I installed once, by mistake, a theme made for the 2.0 version on my 1.1.11 version and that had a result a complete reinstall...

Thank you
Yes you'd have to find the mods, and themes you use and make sure they have been made compatible with 2.0.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Costin on June 14, 2011, 01:32:34 PM
Alright, that's all I wanted to know.

Thank you very much!

:)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Red G. Brown on June 14, 2011, 02:33:36 PM
Simple Machines Forum Team is proud to announce the release of the long awaited SMF 2.0 Final version to the public.

This release marks the transition of SMF 2.0 into the current stable release of SMF, as well as the rebirth of the SMF project as open source software, as it was meant from the start.
As of now, SMF is licensed under the BSD License (http://www.simplemachines.org/about/smf/license.php).

How did you pull off the BSD licensing? That's the holy grail, and I was starting to think the power struggle was going to thwart that. This is excellent news, and will ensure that SMF remains the best forum software available.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Norv on June 14, 2011, 04:22:20 PM
How did you pull off the BSD licensing? That's the holy grail, and I was starting to think the power struggle was going to thwart that. This is excellent news, and will ensure that SMF remains the best forum software available.

/me snickers wickedly.
Don't ask. ;) :D

(j/k btw)

I agree. And hello there, qwasty. :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: LPCA on June 14, 2011, 07:06:26 PM
congratulations :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: HouseEros on June 15, 2011, 01:14:27 AM
How did you pull off the BSD licensing? That's the holy grail, and I was starting to think the power struggle was going to thwart that. This is excellent news, and will ensure that SMF remains the best forum software available.

/me snickers wickedly.
Don't ask. ;) :D

(j/k btw)

I agree. And hello there, qwasty. :)

Well if your just kidding...spill the beans.  ;)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Pentaxian on June 15, 2011, 06:36:53 AM
This website still states 'LLC'. Is that still correct?
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Masterd on June 15, 2011, 06:39:18 AM
Some languages are not updated. It's fine in default language.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: habakuk on June 15, 2011, 08:06:52 AM
Yeeha. I am very happy to hear the 2.0 is now out and I applaud for the BSD license. Thanks much for all your hard work and the excellent forum software you provide!

cheers
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Dannii on June 15, 2011, 08:11:42 AM
I just noticed this and thought I should point it out:

The SMF licence is not a standard 3-clause BSD licence, because clause 3 restricts you from not only using the name of Simple Machines to endorse a modified distribution, but also to restrict you from using the name Simple Machines Forum itself (effectively clause 3 is part of the trademark policy.) To be most accurate, SMF has a BSD-like licence, not a BSD licence.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen on June 15, 2011, 08:19:23 AM
Well - that's a technicality that can be argued, since the actual mother organization is Simple Machines, and the project organization is Simple Machines Forum, it is still the organization in question - Also, only Simple Machines is a registered trademark, Simple Machines Forum is not. http://www.simplemachines.org/about/trademarks.php
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Sea Mac on June 15, 2011, 10:29:11 AM
Congratulations!
(https://www.simplemachines.org/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsoftwaresanta.com%2Fsmf%2FThemes%2FChristmas%2Fimages%2Fpost%2Fthumbup.gif&hash=dd9c890d139fc912328b8c0e46b096d1)
I'll upgrade as Soon as httpBL and Stop Spammer MODS are available .... (https://www.simplemachines.org/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsoftwaresanta.com%2Fshsmf%2FSmileys%2Fclassic%2Fbowing.gif&hash=be7b79d6bdf9023be62ef995064b48d9)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen on June 15, 2011, 10:34:13 AM
Congratulations!
(https://www.simplemachines.org/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsoftwaresanta.com%2Fsmf%2FThemes%2FChristmas%2Fimages%2Fpost%2Fthumbup.gif&hash=dd9c890d139fc912328b8c0e46b096d1)
I'll upgrade as Soon as httpBL and Stop Spammer MODS are available .... (https://www.simplemachines.org/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsoftwaresanta.com%2Fshsmf%2FSmileys%2Fclassic%2Fbowing.gif&hash=be7b79d6bdf9023be62ef995064b48d9)


httpBL (http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=2155) & Stop Spammer (http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=1547) :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: amiralib on June 15, 2011, 12:15:43 PM
HIP HIP HORRAA!
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: tethead on June 15, 2011, 02:10:04 PM
congrats on the release - loving 2.0!!
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: ARG01 on June 15, 2011, 02:38:48 PM
Going by the flood of support requests I think I will wait a bit before upgrading also. I am quite happy with RC 5 so I think i will stick with it for a month or two.
But, congratz to the devs for all of the hard work put into 2.0. I am sure it will be fine in the long run.  ;)

Decided to go ahead and give it a try. Upgraded from RC5 to 2.0 in less than 2 minutes without any issues. (https://www.simplemachines.org/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dzinerstudio.com%2FSmileys%2Fnew%2Fthumbup.gif&hash=37ed0736893b257e3983df0a17163372)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen on June 15, 2011, 02:55:53 PM
Cool :) That's how it's supposed to be.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Lolafish on June 15, 2011, 04:42:28 PM
OMFG, I don't check for a few days and lo and behold, it's here!  YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!

The devs rock man!!!  :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: cellax on June 15, 2011, 04:59:40 PM
great guys, thank you
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: cicka on June 15, 2011, 05:30:15 PM
This is very great news. I was very surprised when I logged in now after several days of not being here and saw this announcement. I am very excited. Thank you to the Smf team for their hard work and dedication :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: NBK*Twitch on June 15, 2011, 05:40:37 PM
Great news :D .  It is also awesome SMF is under the BSD license now.


Now I need to release my blooming red theme :).
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Altzone on June 16, 2011, 02:51:04 AM
Awesome.
But where can I find some info on what the major differences are from 1.1.xx which I'm currently using?
Mainly in terms of the look and feel my users will experience.
I'm using the plain vanilla theme and everyone knows and likes it, so am a bit hesitant if 2.0 looks and handles significantly different.
My forum is here:
www.eevforum.com

Thanks
Dave.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen on June 16, 2011, 03:54:05 AM
Awesome.
But where can I find some info on what the major differences are from 1.1.xx which I'm currently using?
Mainly in terms of the look and feel my users will experience.
In terms of user experience - Well, you are currently posting to a 2.0 forum ;)
Look around, get to know this forum you are now on, and you will know how 2.0 functions.

http://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/Which_version_of_SMF_should_I_use
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Johnny54 on June 16, 2011, 04:07:17 AM
I am a moderator on a forum running SMF 2.0 (RC4, soon final) and wanted to learn more about  the admin part.
For that reason I planned to install it on a test environment.
Because SMF 2.0 final looked very close to being released I decided to wait for it.
I am glad it's finally here.
A big thanks to all of you.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: gamebalance on June 16, 2011, 10:08:37 AM
Does it works to upgrade SMF1.1x to SMF2? :o
I just saw the news that SMF2 stable released and I think it's really great opportunity.
I have only 1 mod installed - akismet. Is it better to make upgrade or update?
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Gary on June 16, 2011, 10:41:44 AM
To go from 1.1 to 2.0 you need the LARGE UPGRADE package.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Xarkurai on June 16, 2011, 07:50:18 PM
Awesome news!
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: xrunner on June 16, 2011, 07:56:18 PM
Thanks and congratulations on finalization!
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: pivotraze on June 16, 2011, 08:55:29 PM
What a great time to come back to SMF. I haven't been using it for a while (sadly) but I'm making a whole new website, and forum, based on SMF. I loved SMF since 1.1.7, and used the first beta of SMF 2. Seeing the gold release of it may be the best thing for my new website!
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: rdbranson on June 17, 2011, 01:24:33 AM
Same problem as mayhem.

  "Unknown column 'a.attachment_type' in 'field list'"

Any ideas?
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: -=[Vyorel]=- on June 17, 2011, 01:31:24 AM
Same problem as mayhem.

  "Unknown column 'a.attachment_type' in 'field list'"

Any ideas?


Finally - please do not use this topic for support requests. You will get a much quicker and better response by posting in the relevant support board!

Post here (http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?board=147.0).
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Felix J on June 17, 2011, 08:59:08 AM
Great News Norv.

Thanks to all people who contributed and still contribute to this project in one way or another!

I just hope now when I will be trying 2.0 final I don't discover any massive bug.  :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Bixby on June 17, 2011, 01:42:20 PM
Thanks for the continued dedication and hard work. I run two SMF 1.1.14 sites and look forward to upgrading to 2.0 Gold.

I am a true newb and have only used the package manager for my upgrades in the past so this will be a bit of a learning curve. Time to dig in I guess. I starting to read the upgrade procedure and got to PHPMyAdmin and CHMOD and the question marks started to pop into my head. I run my sites at GoDaddy and used their 1-Click installs. (That is how I discovered SMF). Anyways, it looks like I have some work ahead of me and need to start my learnin' proper.

Purpose of this message was not to ask for support, it was to congratulate the team. So, to all of you, good job, have some Champagne and celebrate the fruits of your labour. I will be off in the corner trying to get meself smart and stuff so I can use the cool new version. :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Alex' Manson on June 17, 2011, 10:05:01 PM
so there will be something else called a "gold" version.. maybe.. payed? o.O
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: busterone on June 17, 2011, 10:20:38 PM
no, gold=final
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Alex' Manson on June 17, 2011, 11:41:38 PM
oh, thanks :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Gary on June 18, 2011, 02:19:02 AM
To add to that, SMF will never become a paid product.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen on June 18, 2011, 02:29:38 AM
Yup, no plans of ever going paid that I know of. SMF has always been, and will remain completely free - and now with the new license it really means free without limitations.
Title: Re: 2.0 Gold has been released
Post by: Pegasys on June 18, 2011, 08:25:04 AM
Well, we had a statement in red saying "This version of SMF is in development! Please do not use it on a production website!". It has been like this since the Beta release of SMF 2.0. A few patches were released considering the circumstances, however, that will not be the case with this one.

Your custom code will be gone, but the entries in the database should still be there. So, that should get you back rolling as soon as you place the custom codes are back into the files. ;)


You are absolutely correct. You did have that disclaimer on all the beta releases.

But do keep this in mind. You had that disclaimer since, what? 2008?  3 years? 

So in effect, for all that time, you were telling us to use some other forum product if we ran a production web site??? Or were we expected to keep using the 1.x version while other forum products moved ahead with solid new releases and modern popular add-ons?


I know you guys have struggled with internal issues and dissension... and all of your efforts and certainly the forum product itself are greatly appreciated beyond words. But your loyal fan base has also struggled with you. And if at all possible, I think making a 2.0 RC5 to 2.0 Gold Manual Update File available would be very much appreciated by those loyal users who have stuck it out and keep the faith in both you guys and SMF.

I can't give you any real numbers as to how many of us have used the 2.0 RC versions for active forum websites. I could make one up, though... but lets just say "lots". Lots of us have heavily modified 2.0 RC5 sites. And if most of the changes to the final Gold version are, as advertised, security and log on fixes...  a manual update file would save us a ton of time. Think of it as a reward to your loyal and faithful community.   ;)

The needs of the many...  (all of us)
Outweigh the needs of the one(s).  (the poor smuck(s) who have to write the manual update file)

Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: scimmiotto on June 18, 2011, 08:25:45 AM
tnx a lot, it's a great news, i was waiting for this final since 2004. Tnx again, great present for my marriage :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: kaety on June 18, 2011, 09:20:51 AM
I upgraded, but my theme is incompatible and I can't seem to find a simple way to write a new one...
Will have to hack up a 2.0 theme somehow, wish it had said this on the upgrade.php everything else worked well
Thanks!!!

kaety
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Gary on June 18, 2011, 10:04:48 AM
tnx a lot, it's a great news, i was waiting for this final since 2004. Tnx again, great present for my marriage :)

Since 2004? Even though 1.1 went Final in 2006? :P
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Kindred on June 18, 2011, 10:56:13 AM
Pegasys,

Sorry, no.
We appreciate the loyal userbase, but we will not be releasing a package update for RC5->Final.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Pegasys on June 18, 2011, 11:15:59 AM
Pegasys,

Sorry, no.
We appreciate the loyal userbase, but we will not be releasing a package update for RC5->Final.

BOO!!  HISS!!   ;)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: NanoSector on June 18, 2011, 11:42:09 AM
Pegasys,

Sorry, no.
We appreciate the loyal userbase, but we will not be releasing a package update for RC5->Final.
Which they never did for any of the 2.0 beta / RCx series.

Maybe 2.0 > 2.1 will get an package manager update?
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Masterd on June 18, 2011, 11:48:16 AM
Maybe 2.0 > 2.1 will get an package manager update?


It's not gonna happen.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: NanoSector on June 18, 2011, 12:03:05 PM
Maybe 2.0 > 2.1 will get an package manager update?


It's not gonna happen.
I said "Maybe".
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Masterd on June 18, 2011, 12:04:06 PM
Changes will be too big.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Kindred on June 18, 2011, 12:09:07 PM
minor bug updates and security releases get a package manager update.
It is unlikely that major upgrades will ever be viable candidates for the package manager.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: NanoSector on June 18, 2011, 12:11:51 PM
Changes will be too big.
I know......

But then again, why didn't the team already put those changes in 2.0? I mean, waiting a week more doesn't hurt that bad...
Ah well.

minor bug updates and security releases get a package manager update.
It is unlikely that major upgrades will ever be viable candidates for the package manager.
I'm sure that the package manager is pretty much able to handle it.
I mean, take the MAP3 Mod Manager besides the SMF Package Manager -- SMF's one owns a big deal. And even the MAP3 mod manager is able to do a big upgrade.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Alex' Manson on June 18, 2011, 12:15:13 PM
so the whole thing will stop here? :P
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Illori on June 18, 2011, 12:22:55 PM
minor bug updates and security releases get a package manager update.
It is unlikely that major upgrades will ever be viable candidates for the package manager.
I'm sure that the package manager is pretty much able to handle it.
I mean, take the MAP3 Mod Manager besides the SMF Package Manager -- SMF's one owns a big deal. And even the MAP3 mod manager is able to do a big upgrade.

being able to handle it and the team taking time to create it and test it to make sure nothing goes wrong are 2 different things, it is MUCH easier for the team to release it the way it does now and not worry about the package manager missing something, or a mod someone has installed breaking the upgrade process with the package manager which could happen easily.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Norv on June 18, 2011, 12:27:38 PM
The needs of the many...  (all of us)
Outweigh the needs of the one(s).  (the poor smuck(s) who have to write the manual update file)

Pegasys,

Allow me to give a little example. With all due respect, please compare for yourself:
- work on preventing possible data loss on people's forums on a couple of conversions
- work on forum affected by a pre-1.1.8 security issue on unsecured hosts.
- work on coding and testing a tool for forums on 2.0 to have
- work on language files that international forums use
- work on a security question that came to me, which proved to be absolutely false. But I had to be sure - on my time.
- work on reviewing SMF 2.0 API provided by a third party
These are only a few of the things I can tell *I* personally worked on for SMF users today - only today - and just about every day is like this. (and there are a couple other things)

Versus:
- leaving these not done, to give time instead on some convenience package with ALL files edits (no, not only a few fixes were made, ALL files changed versions and format of versions, and it's not optional because version matching algorithm changed in 2.0 Final), and test it for thousands of forums, and that, disregarding the significant additional support load it would bring anyway?

What do YOU think I should choose to spend my time on? :)

We have documented for people to know how the upgrade works for Final. The same way it always did, for beta/RCs:
- with brand-new files uploaded,
- a script you just run,
- and all your data safe.

Your data is safe, I can tell: I worked on the upgrade and tested in dozens of scenarios.
Your mods data is safely stored in the database, I can tell: I worked on package manager, we tested it with hundreds of unit tests and manual functionality tests. (I'm not exaggerating)
All you need to do is to reinstall the mod packages, so they can make their file edits, in an automated way, through SMF's package manager.

With all due respect, I have no time - for the next 2 years at least - to do that for you. Sorry.

The needs of the many vs the needs of the few? Thank you, I don't think so: I think, not to sound rude, that much more would be affected if I hadn't chosen to do the above, on critical matters for people and their forums.

HOWEVER, what I can - and do - is work on the future SMF, its code, its architecture, its planning, its development tools, its organization, to change some things to be even more seamless and user-friendly... including package manager of the future SMF. Now that the 2.0 release is out. But about that, in an upcoming blog. ;)

For now, SMF 2.0 is out there and is finally Open Source, available for people to use, modify, as they need or want to. Please feel free to use it or not, as you see fit.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: NanoSector on June 18, 2011, 12:56:34 PM
minor bug updates and security releases get a package manager update.
It is unlikely that major upgrades will ever be viable candidates for the package manager.
I'm sure that the package manager is pretty much able to handle it.
I mean, take the MAP3 Mod Manager besides the SMF Package Manager -- SMF's one owns a big deal. And even the MAP3 mod manager is able to do a big upgrade.

being able to handle it and the team taking time to create it and test it to make sure nothing goes wrong are 2 different things, it is MUCH easier for the team to release it the way it does now and not worry about the package manager missing something, or a mod someone has installed breaking the upgrade process with the package manager which could happen easily.
Sorry, I was not really aware of that :P

(as a side note, wouldn't it be cool if SMF had a tool that automatically downloaded the upgrade files and replaces the old ones? Not sure if webinstall does do that)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Kindred on June 18, 2011, 12:59:02 PM
That would be a sure way to screw up people's installations, since it would then replace SOME files modified by a mod and not others. I other words, lots of fatal errors as mods break left and right.

Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: NanoSector on June 18, 2011, 01:05:14 PM
That would be a sure way to screw up people's installations, since it would then replace SOME files modified by a mod and not others. I other words, lots of fatal errors as mods break left and right.
No, I mean, a fully standalone tool (else I am already aware of the problems it may or may not cause), that first deletes the files, then redownloads them.

But let's first focus on further development, nice tools come afterwards.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Pegasys on June 18, 2011, 01:14:49 PM

Pegasys,

Allow me to give a little example. With all due respect, please compare for yourself:

....



A simple no would have sufficed.   ;D

In fact, already got one or two...    ;)


Fear not. I fully realize how much effort goes into such a large endeavor as this. No need to explain or justify. I was just running the idea up the flagpole to see if it would get a few salutes.


Because I found both 2.0 RC4 & 2.0 RC5 to be stable enough for production... they are in production on a few sites. I use a lot of mods and modify a lot of code directly to accommodate each site's needs... and have historically appreciated & relied upon manual update files for version updates. Without them, the update process is obviously much more time consuming. Heavily modified or just mods added, without a manual update file, the site has to go off-line or be recreated in a test environment.

Not your worry. I understand you can't support modifications or even packaged mods. But a documented list of the code changes would have been nice. I will still manually update... by comparing files and updating code as required... and manually making any database changes found in the install script. Same method I used bouncing from one RC to the next.

Thanks again for all your time and effort on this. It IS... very much appreciated!!

Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: CaptainDEEZ on June 18, 2011, 06:03:39 PM
So if I'm running 1.1.11, which is the best upgrade I can do?

1.1.14 or 2.0?

and if I choose 2.0, how many things won't get transferred to the new format?
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Joshua Dickerson on June 18, 2011, 06:06:52 PM
2.0
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: b4pjoe on June 18, 2011, 07:01:05 PM
So if I'm running 1.1.11, which is the best upgrade I can do?

1.1.14 or 2.0?

and if I choose 2.0, how many things won't get transferred to the new format?

All mods and themes will no longer work after updating to 2.0 unless there are 2.0 compatible versions of them which you would need to install.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Illori on June 18, 2011, 07:09:40 PM
you can use either version, both are equally stable at this point. the only thing you might loose are mods that are not updated to 2.0 and themes that are not updated to 2.0.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Alex' Manson on June 18, 2011, 07:27:03 PM
everything will get transferred to 2.0 , only modifications you made will be removed.
i personally recommend 2.0
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: firstforum on June 19, 2011, 01:18:07 AM
Such an Awesome news..

well done !!!
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Perfektionist on June 19, 2011, 12:49:15 PM
Wunderbar!
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Eleglin on June 19, 2011, 06:26:34 PM
Good Job ! :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Oldiesmann on June 19, 2011, 11:57:18 PM
So if I'm running 1.1.11, which is the best upgrade I can do?

1.1.14 or 2.0?

and if I choose 2.0, how many things won't get transferred to the new format?

2.0 has more features, so I highly recommend you upgrade to that. All posts, attachments, users, etc. will be left alone. You will have to reinstall any mods and custom themes after the upgrade (though 1.1.x themes will not work with 2.0).
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: RenzoC on June 20, 2011, 08:02:20 AM
Hello, first of all thanks to the team for the big effort they are doing.
Next, I am experiencing a problem, in upgrading from 1.1.12 to 2.0.
I have followed (I think carefully) the instructions, but when I try to run the upgrade I get the message
"Unknown column 'a.attachment_type' in 'field list'"
Have I missed something?
Please, help....
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: arthorg on June 20, 2011, 08:08:36 AM
So, does the new licence means that it will finally be possible to have official bridges for mediawiki/wordpress/drupal ?
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Illori on June 20, 2011, 08:10:04 AM
Hello, first of all thanks to the team for the big effort they are doing.
Next, I am experiencing a problem, in upgrading from 1.1.12 to 2.0.
I have followed (I think carefully) the instructions, but when I try to run the upgrade I get the message
"Unknown column 'a.attachment_type' in 'field list'"
Have I missed something?
Please, help....

please do not use this thread for support, also be sure to follow all steps in the upgrade process Upgrading SMF (http://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/Upgrading)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Norv on June 20, 2011, 08:45:31 AM
So, does the new licence means that it will finally be possible to have official bridges for mediawiki/wordpress/drupal ?

I need to verify every software license by itself and eventually contact and collaborate with them, but the short answer is: SMF 2.0 is open source software today, in OSI sense, with a permissive license, BSD-family, which is GPL-compatible.
So yes, there are far more possibilities to bridge with other open source software, than it used to be under the old proprietary license.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: GravuTrad on June 20, 2011, 12:07:50 PM
Same thing for joomla?
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Norv on June 20, 2011, 12:11:19 PM
Same thing for joomla?

I'm not sure yet what and how can be done, for joomla's particular case. You may want to see a little brainstorming start here:
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=438756.0
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Forbs on June 21, 2011, 05:37:20 AM
Good job SMF team!
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: gisfreak on June 21, 2011, 01:12:41 PM
my second post here

upgrade from my 1.1.14 to 2.0 this morning and all went smooth, nice

thanx again for all developer
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: CaptainDEEZ on June 21, 2011, 07:33:22 PM
So if I'm running 1.1.11, which is the best upgrade I can do?

1.1.14 or 2.0?

and if I choose 2.0, how many things won't get transferred to the new format?

All mods and themes will no longer work after updating to 2.0 unless there are 2.0 compatible versions of them which you would need to install.

Will the pretty URLs mod still work with 2.0?
That's the only one I really care stays.  I can find better ones for the rest.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: ahrasis on June 22, 2011, 05:09:11 AM
Wah... I am so late. But congratulations to SMF Team... I will give sometimes later to review all my mods for the latest 2.0.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: MarkRH on June 22, 2011, 03:24:38 PM
Just wanted to say congrats to the devs that put in all the work. My 1.1.14 board is so customized that it might be some time (if ever) that I move it to 2.0.  I have a suspicion that every mod I have will not be compatible; although, some may no longer be needed.

What I may do is create a completely new installation under a different sub-domain in its own folder and get it to where I want it. Once everything is working, point the original forum sub-domain to the new folder.

It's probably answered somewhere but is there a post and user import feature where I can point it to my separate 1.1.14 board install if I do this (this should probably be a new thread)?
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Kindred on June 22, 2011, 03:55:00 PM
Mark --   no...   there is no "import"

As with all other major upgrades, you overwrite the 1.1.14 files and run upgrade.php on your 1.1.14 installation to update to 2.0. There are ways to do similar to what you are asking, but you are correct, that would be a new support thread.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: MarkRH on June 22, 2011, 04:25:00 PM
Mark --   no...   there is no "import"

As with all other major upgrades, you overwrite the 1.1.14 files and run upgrade.php on your 1.1.14 installation to update to 2.0. There are ways to do similar to what you are asking, but you are correct, that would be a new support thread.

Thanks. Yeah, I'm not installing 2.0 on top of my active 1.1.14 installation. That's just asking for trouble LOL.  Now, I may copy the whole 1.1.14 forum into a new location, copying the database as well, and then upgrade that forum just to see what a mess, if any, is created by doing that method. Anyway, if I have any more questions I'll make a new thread.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Ashley S on June 22, 2011, 05:37:22 PM
Nice to see you guys updating.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: RvG on June 23, 2011, 12:52:58 AM
Upgraded successfully.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Sorans on June 24, 2011, 12:50:17 PM
Yay~ I'm upgrading to it tonight <3
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Perspective on June 24, 2011, 01:16:36 PM
Unfortunatelly.. I've got an error. Opened a new theread for it, but seems none answered: http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=439434.msg3086149#msg3086149
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen on June 24, 2011, 01:34:35 PM
We usually ask that you allow up to 24 hours for a reply, before bumping... If no one answers in that time, feel free to post again to "bump" the topic. We try our best to answe all topics, but a weekend combined with a recent version release can cause delays...
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: _Ziggy_ on June 24, 2011, 04:37:52 PM
Congratulations team!!!!


I have updated 5 forums without any problems...

 8)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: MarkRH on June 24, 2011, 06:38:43 PM
Just thought I'd mention that I successfully upgraded a copy of my 1.1.14 forum to 2.0. Thanks to the developers for writing such a robust upgrade script.

Now the really hard part comes in.  There's a few mods, like the Color & BGColor Bar that will not install on 2.0 Final. Seems 2.0 went really heavy on the JavaScript.  Who knows how much work getting my own customizations back in will be as much of it had to do with the post editor. Since my main forum is still running 1.1.14 and functional, I can take my time. :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: alkisg on June 24, 2011, 11:45:58 PM
As of now, SMF is licensed under the BSD License (http://www.simplemachines.org/about/smf/license.php).

Finally! Thanks a lot for that, I hope the community pays you back.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: ZerK on June 25, 2011, 01:00:10 AM
Nice Work !
i ll be upgrading soon !
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Jessica. on June 25, 2011, 07:45:46 PM
whoo, congrats :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Ciler on June 29, 2011, 05:53:12 AM
Congratulations SMF developers! Just did the upgrade from RC5 to this final Release without any problems. I started with SMF at version 1.1.11! Then I started to upgrade to 2.0 RC4 and after this Release I did all the upgrades to this final Release! Also thanks to the people who suported me with mods after the upgrades.

What is the planning in future with SMF? Is this stable finish the last station or is the team going to work at further Releases in future?

Thanks keep up tha good work! ;)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Illori on June 29, 2011, 06:01:52 AM
2.0 is the stable final release of the 2.0 branch, although there maybe security releases in the future. the team will be working on the next version smf sometime in the future.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: KINGRPG on June 29, 2011, 05:32:53 PM
anyone have officially preview or review?
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Kindred on June 29, 2011, 06:31:16 PM
this site is running 2.0...  as are dozens of others at this point (for a preview)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Kindred on June 30, 2011, 09:43:31 AM
moderators note: I have split off the security reports discussion to a different thread, in the 2.0 support area.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: 青山 素子 on June 30, 2011, 02:32:35 PM
Not your worry. I understand you can't support modifications or even packaged mods. But a documented list of the code changes would have been nice. I will still manually update... by comparing files and updating code as required... and manually making any database changes found in the install script. Same method I used bouncing from one RC to the next.

Simple procedure:

It's not hard to do...
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: MellowMarcello on July 01, 2011, 08:45:02 AM

When will they have the Babylon theme fully ready for the SMF 2.0 Final version? 

That was the previous default theme for SMF.  I really liked that, much better than the new Curve default theme which seems some SMF/phpbb hybrid in appearance due to the less sharp "watercolor" look.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Illori on July 01, 2011, 08:48:14 AM
babylon is not included in the 2.0 release. if it will be updated it should appear on the theme site i believe.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: popovicidinu on July 01, 2011, 08:49:47 AM
Great work! Upgrading soon. Hopefully all goes right. ;)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: bloc on July 01, 2011, 09:04:10 AM

When will they have the Babylon theme fully ready for the SMF 2.0 Final version? 

That was the previous default theme for SMF.  I really liked that, much better than the new Curve default theme which seems some SMF/phpbb hybrid in appearance due to the less sharp "watercolor" look.

It wasn't the previous default theme- that was the Core theme, which was rather sharp and boxy. Babylon was the one before that again and only default in SMF 1.0(Core was default in SMF 1.1).The name came from one of its contributors was called BabylonKing. (or something similar, been a few years ago)

Curve:

(https://www.simplemachines.org/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.blocweb.net%2Fdemos%2Fsmf2%2FThemes%2Fdefault%2Fimages%2Fthumbnail.gif&hash=196da99f5f911a8089475dce9c7e78ec)

Core:

(https://www.simplemachines.org/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.blocweb.net%2Fdemos%2Fsmf2%2FThemes%2Fcore%2Fimages%2Fthumbnail.gif&hash=3c5dfdc27e44e91b4ba4fdb9ebb8683e)

Babylon:

(https://www.simplemachines.org/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.blocweb.net%2Fdemos%2Fsmf1%2FThemes%2Fbabylon%2Fimages%2Fthumbnail.gif&hash=b849f408c4c9dbc724fa86d19f02ceea)

Babylon isn't included in SMF 2.0 as Illori mentions - but Core is. Curve wasn't added in 2.0 either until RC2.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Mr. Jinx on July 01, 2011, 09:51:47 AM
And another succesful 2.0 upgrade is completed (http://www.chelloo.com/upc/).
Thanks for this release!
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: craftyminion on July 01, 2011, 10:01:19 PM
Very good. Upgrading from RC5 to Gold with the small upgrade package was a cinch. :)

Also pleased to see SMF has finally moved to an open source licence. Great stuff!

Cm
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: amko_sa on July 02, 2011, 06:22:58 AM
I am finish upgrade without any error. All my mods work. ;D 8)
Thanks to all SMF team for 2.0 gold release.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: MellowMarcello on July 03, 2011, 02:50:06 PM

When will they have the Babylon theme fully ready for the SMF 2.0 Final version? 

That was the previous default theme for SMF.  I really liked that, much better than the new Curve default theme which seems some SMF/phpbb hybrid in appearance due to the less sharp "watercolor" look.

It wasn't the previous default theme- that was the Core theme, which was rather sharp and boxy. Babylon was the one before that again and only default in SMF 1.0(Core was default in SMF 1.1).The name came from one of its contributors was called BabylonKing. (or something similar, been a few years ago)

Curve:

(https://www.simplemachines.org/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.blocweb.net%2Fdemos%2Fsmf2%2FThemes%2Fdefault%2Fimages%2Fthumbnail.gif&hash=196da99f5f911a8089475dce9c7e78ec)

Core:

(https://www.simplemachines.org/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.blocweb.net%2Fdemos%2Fsmf2%2FThemes%2Fcore%2Fimages%2Fthumbnail.gif&hash=3c5dfdc27e44e91b4ba4fdb9ebb8683e)

Babylon:

(https://www.simplemachines.org/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.blocweb.net%2Fdemos%2Fsmf1%2FThemes%2Fbabylon%2Fimages%2Fthumbnail.gif&hash=b849f408c4c9dbc724fa86d19f02ceea)

Babylon isn't included in SMF 2.0 as Illori mentions - but Core is. Curve wasn't added in 2.0 either until RC2.

My board was first on xsorbit SMF 1.0.5 and the theme was Bablyon.  Then I moved the board and upgraded it to the 1.1.x series, but still kept Babylon as my theme.  I have screenshots of both Core and Babylon for my board but I'm reluctant to post them since my board is a private board.

I don't like the Curve theme at all with how blendy it is.  It's really too bad there's no Babylon theme for SMF 2.0.  The Core theme is better than Curve, but I still prefer Babylon.  Any theme that was good enough to be a default theme at one point should still be an option, and not phased out by some marketing department.

I regret I switched over to SMF 2.0 before SMF 2.0 got a Babylon theme.  I know the security is better, but the upgrade still feels like a downgrade due to the look.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Robert. on July 03, 2011, 02:55:52 PM
@MellowMarcello: There will be a Babylon and YSE theme compatible with SMF 2, provided by the team :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Oldiesmann on July 03, 2011, 03:00:15 PM
There might be, assuming someone wants to upgrade it. It's not used much anymore, so I don't see much demand for it.

Mellow, have you looked at the theme site at all? Maybe you can find another theme there that you like.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: agridoc on July 03, 2011, 03:37:33 PM
MellowMarcello, until a better solution is found, you can try this.

Babylon and Classic were included up to 2.0 RC3. So, you can download a copy of 2.0 RC3 install files (http://download.simplemachines.org/?archive;version=54), install in another dir and database in your server and copy the babylon (and maybe classic) dir to your working forum.

Another trick if someone wants to upgrade from 1.1x and has a 1.1 theme that can't be found for 2.0. BEFORE upgrading to 2.0 final do an upgrade to 2.0 RC3. The theme files will be changed, not a perfect 2.0 conversion but something better to start with.

This converter as well as Babylon and Classic themes was abandoned in 2.0 RC4 and later.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Illori on July 03, 2011, 04:16:55 PM
there have been several theme changes since RC3, so those themes may not work on 2.0.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Kindred on July 03, 2011, 04:34:16 PM
as a matter of course, Babylon will NOT work fully on 2.0 final. and the converter never worked very well, which is why it was abandoned.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: agridoc on July 03, 2011, 05:18:39 PM
It might work well enough for MellowMarcello. If no error messages are present and no safety issues exist he may choose to use it, as I stated, until a better solution is found.

For the converter I wrote "not a perfect 2.0 conversion but something better to start with". It will really gain time, even changing string variables is a headache without the converter.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: bloc on July 03, 2011, 06:49:39 PM

When will they have the Babylon theme fully ready for the SMF 2.0 Final version? 

That was the previous default theme for SMF.  I really liked that, much better than the new Curve default theme which seems some SMF/phpbb hybrid in appearance due to the less sharp "watercolor" look.

It wasn't the previous default theme- that was the Core theme, which was rather sharp and boxy. Babylon was the one before that again and only default in SMF 1.0(Core was default in SMF 1.1).The name came from one of its contributors was called BabylonKing. (or something similar, been a few years ago)

Curve:

(https://www.simplemachines.org/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.blocweb.net%2Fdemos%2Fsmf2%2FThemes%2Fdefault%2Fimages%2Fthumbnail.gif&hash=196da99f5f911a8089475dce9c7e78ec)

Core:

(https://www.simplemachines.org/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.blocweb.net%2Fdemos%2Fsmf2%2FThemes%2Fcore%2Fimages%2Fthumbnail.gif&hash=3c5dfdc27e44e91b4ba4fdb9ebb8683e)

Babylon:

(https://www.simplemachines.org/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.blocweb.net%2Fdemos%2Fsmf1%2FThemes%2Fbabylon%2Fimages%2Fthumbnail.gif&hash=b849f408c4c9dbc724fa86d19f02ceea)

Babylon isn't included in SMF 2.0 as Illori mentions - but Core is. Curve wasn't added in 2.0 either until RC2.

My board was first on xsorbit SMF 1.0.5 and the theme was Bablyon.  Then I moved the board and upgraded it to the 1.1.x series, but still kept Babylon as my theme.  I have screenshots of both Core and Babylon for my board but I'm reluctant to post them since my board is a private board.

I don't like the Curve theme at all with how blendy it is.  It's really too bad there's no Babylon theme for SMF 2.0.  The Core theme is better than Curve, but I still prefer Babylon.  Any theme that was good enough to be a default theme at one point should still be an option, and not phased out by some marketing department.

I regret I switched over to SMF 2.0 before SMF 2.0 got a Babylon theme.  I know the security is better, but the upgrade still feels like a downgrade due to the look.

Err, actually, I never proposed either to leave out the babylon/classic themes. And they were there when I worked on Core, but not when I made Curve. The team decided it took too much space, so the "marketing dept" had really nothing to say about that... ;D

Its sad no-one too he time to update it though, its a real gem.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Eleglin on July 03, 2011, 07:45:33 PM
Babylon was a nice theme, but Curve is really great.
Just done the update for 2.0, and I see you have done a really good job with div and css. :-)

Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: goldenboy48 on July 06, 2011, 01:04:55 AM
Congratulations! Great work!
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Antechinus on July 06, 2011, 01:11:02 AM
Err, actually, I never proposed either to leave out the babylon/classic themes. And they were there when I worked on Core, but not when I made Curve. The team decided it took too much space, so the "marketing dept" had really nothing to say about that... ;D

Its sad no-one too he time to update it though, its a real gem.

It wasn't so much an issue of space as of time and resources. Frankly, we were so busy just dealing with getting Curve and Core sorted that nobody had time for the other two, and given how few people are even interested in them it just didn't make sense to waste time on them.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: bloc on July 06, 2011, 09:04:27 AM
A bit sad, because Babylon was indeed a innovative theme, and still is in some ways. Classic is just that..classic. I will have a look at the RC3 version, though no promises.(and if it ain't up to speed with the 1.1 version I will def. use the 1.1 as a start instead)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Antechinus on July 06, 2011, 10:47:49 AM
TBH I don't like any of the old themes enough to use them or spend time on them. I find them dull and ugly.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: ModelBoatMayhem on July 07, 2011, 05:13:06 AM
The Babylon theme has been around a Long time now and many users find it friendly and reassuring. To not only change the fundamentals of the whole forum plus it's looks can be a bit of a 'ground shift'  for many of the 'old boys' that use my Forum. I'm sure many forum users around the world find it easier to cope with it it "looked the same" but had different functionality, rather than 'Looks AND Feels different'  all in one go.  Remember, Babylon was the default or preferred theme for years and for millions of SMF
 user around the world.

I for one, am happy to contribute to a fully functional Babylon theme for 2.0 Gold.


A bit sad, because Babylon was indeed a innovative theme, and still is in some ways. Classic is just that..classic. I will have a look at the RC3 version, though no promises.(and if it ain't up to speed with the 1.1 version I will def. use the 1.1 as a start instead)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: bloc on July 07, 2011, 02:03:52 PM
TBH I don't like any of the old themes enough to use them or spend time on them. I find them dull and ugly.
Everything has its charm and its time. Always hunting for the latest and greatest is one of biggest flaws in our soceity, IMHO. Those themes are good designs, they just aren't "the latest". I would recommend them before several of the "new" Curve alternatives any day.

There, I got to say something important today too lmao ;D
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Antechinus on July 07, 2011, 10:01:41 PM
[old fart]

When I were a lad things were different. You whippersnappers and yer goldurned new fangled themes! There should be a law against it! I fought and died in two world wars to keep themes like that off the internet. :P

[/old fart]

;D
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: bloc on July 08, 2011, 06:58:50 AM
"Quality never really fades away"..or wait, that was beauty or something wasn't it :P

But serizli, I like 'em cool and I like 'em classy 2. ;D
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Antechinus on July 08, 2011, 05:46:02 PM
Oh I'm all for quality, and it can be from any era. The thing is that those old themes don't appeal to me at all. It's largely to do with the palette. They give the feeling of sitting in a rubbish dump on a cold, grey day: thoroughly dismal.

Of course, I'm the sort of bloke who likes Art Deco and thinks Bauhaus is crap. ;D

I agree that in terms of design in general Babylon is a classic. Not sure about the others.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen on July 09, 2011, 12:11:14 AM
Many on my forum wants Babylon to be supported, just like Core and Curve - and it seems to me that many here would like to see that too...
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: ZerK on July 09, 2011, 01:08:11 AM
ehh babylon and almost all the old themes are squares with tables that are so pre web 2.0
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen on July 09, 2011, 01:19:14 AM
Web 2.0 is nothing but a fancy word...
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: ZerK on July 09, 2011, 01:21:38 AM
i know but since someone introduced it the people seems to take more care about the look of their website.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Alex' Manson on July 09, 2011, 06:06:35 AM
Many on my forum wants Babylon to be supported, just like Core and Curve - and it seems to me that many here would like to see that too...

i want it to be available for smf 2.0 too, i really like it, with it's special classic view.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: bloc on July 09, 2011, 09:29:15 AM
It doesn't have to be in tables, its a look like every theme so the coding could/should be more semantic correct. Which is what I aim for though.

Not sure about the RC3 version, haven't looked at it yet.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: RvG on July 09, 2011, 02:56:44 PM
still I love babylon theme... for me it is almost perfect.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Graham Ginsberg on July 10, 2011, 12:10:23 AM
Great work guys! You deserve all the credit for work well done.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Puch on July 11, 2011, 04:21:24 AM
Thx a lot guys
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Forum Labs on July 11, 2011, 06:28:37 AM
YAY. It was already released a month ago! I need to update my forums now!
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Álvaro R on July 14, 2011, 10:46:30 AM
Finally :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: choloman05 on July 14, 2011, 11:25:41 PM
Awesome, congratulations!
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: BellGab.com on July 15, 2011, 02:46:12 AM
I just wanted to say I've been very happy with the 2.0 gold release.  Its quality and the fact that it was even released AT ALL have renewed my faith in the SMF project, and I intend to purchase a charter membership.  I would encourage others to do the same.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: karlbenson on July 18, 2011, 02:11:27 PM
Finally final!
:)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen on July 18, 2011, 02:38:40 PM
And it didn't even take 10 years :P
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Matt G on July 18, 2011, 03:08:01 PM
Great work guys. You deserve all the thanks you get :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Dpics on July 19, 2011, 07:37:33 AM
Am trying it ,Ty
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: phill104 on July 19, 2011, 09:44:37 AM
Great work. Now, when is 3.0 going to be released ;) :o
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Gary on July 19, 2011, 10:21:30 AM
Sometime between now, and 2054. :P
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen on July 19, 2011, 10:45:28 AM
Would tomorrow be fine? :P
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: tintoklix on July 19, 2011, 11:48:55 PM
It's a nice edition. Will apply it on mine...
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: AshleyT on July 21, 2011, 10:29:01 AM
It's seriously stunning....

I was racking my brains out previous of VB vs IPB...No need now as imo smf is far more amazing!
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Stormfront on July 22, 2011, 10:51:45 AM
I'm SMF 1.1.14 Would a problem with the transition to SMF 2.0 Final?
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Suki on July 22, 2011, 10:54:29 AM
Stormfront please open a new topic for your issue, this topic is not for support requests.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Shadow Queen on July 22, 2011, 12:58:40 PM
Corgs to you and the team for all your hard work
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: judchuks on July 24, 2011, 02:27:22 PM
How do I upgrade my forum then? Or should I leave it the  way it is?

Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Illori on July 24, 2011, 02:44:03 PM
please open a thread in the proper support board, this thread is not for support
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: ioszilla on July 25, 2011, 03:17:01 AM
Good job everyone!  ;)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Thebestmanken on July 26, 2011, 11:31:48 AM
Hello How are you?
It's a nice edition. Will apply it on mine...
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Daniel D. on July 26, 2011, 12:46:14 PM
Congratulations for SMF 2.0! I hope the german translation is up to date ;)...
Title: Re: How do I update to 2.0 ?
Post by: philesq on July 26, 2011, 01:46:27 PM
Can I update from within the control panel?  If I can, I was not able to find how to do that.  If not, can you please point me to the instructions on how to update from 1.14 to 2.0.

Thanks.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Illori on July 26, 2011, 01:48:04 PM
please open a thread in the proper support board, this thread is not for support
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Kindred on July 26, 2011, 02:01:56 PM
well, since this has alreayd been answered, a number of times--
 you could try using search and/or reading the first post, and.or using the wiki

http://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/Upgrading
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: agridoc on July 30, 2011, 10:47:28 AM
A number of replies were split and moved in a non public board for further discussion. However I believe something and a solution must remain in public until a better public board and way is found.

Integrating basic user help with SMF structure, as used so far, is far superior, as it uses the forum's default theme and so is better help for the end user.

SMF Wiki help uses screen captures. This means a lot of unnecessary work to be done for different languages and the end result will be inferior for the user of a specific SMF forum.

For most foreign languages, current basic user help state for 2.0 is back to early 1.0x versions when not many translations were available.

Fortunately, as Gary informed, there is a mod that restores the feature back, so, until a better solution is found

This mod is a welcomed go back move to the online basic help system of SMF until 2.0 RC4.

There are ready translations in older language packs. Unfortunately 2.0 RC4 language packs adopted the new SMF Wiki help a little before RC5 release so, unless someone has an older 2.0 RC4 language pack, 2.0 RC3 language packs must be used (http://download.simplemachines.org/index.php?archive;version=54), they are the most recent available.

Take Manual.[language].php from translation pack, rename it to ExtendedManual.[language].php and upload it to /Themes/default/languages.

"Extended Help" mod is not a exactly a mod, neither a new fearure, it's a restoration of an existing feature that was stripped a little before 2.0 RC5 release. An overenthusiastic but wrong move as I see it.

I believe that SMF should go back to this system, this is basic user help and should be available in SMF installation. Read this and related messages before.

There's a mod that'll revert the help backwards to RC4's local method somewhere on the mod site.

Thank you Gary, it's Extended Help (http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=3043) mod by SMF Customization Team (http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?action=profile;u=1) , that makes it an "official" mod. That also means that quite a few find the old way better.

So, bringing back Manual.[language].php and basic user help in SMF files and adding a link like "SMF Wiki extended help" is the best way. "Extended" goes for Wiki, as this will be the full documentation when finished.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: bloc on July 30, 2011, 12:54:12 PM
A number of replies were split and moved in a non public board for further discussion. However I believe something and a solution must remain in public until a better public board and way is found.

Integrating basic user help with SMF structure, as used so far, is far superior, as it uses the forum's default theme and so is better help for the end user.

SMF Wiki help uses screen captures. This means a lot of unnecessary work to be done for different languages and the end result will be inferior for the user of a specific SMF forum.

For most foreign languages, current basic user help state for 2.0 is back to early 1.0x versions when not many translations were available.

Fortunately, as Gary informed, there is a mod that restores the feature back, so, until a better solution is found


Can only agreed(and have already said what I mean elsewhere), the choice of Wiki as the help feature was very unwise, for the reasons you mentioned.

I don't think anything will change though, it seems this was done to relieve some work - even if the drawbacks are bigger than the advantages lol:

+ centrally located docs
+ no need to administer submitted work from translators (though CompuArt's editor is there to help with that...)
+ more targeted software for actually displaying docs(which is really a design question around the Help.template => solvable)

- more server stress
- NO docs when server is down
- existing work not updated into the Wiki yet, due to lacking manpower?..and
- previous translators feel their work was "wasted", thus perhaps reluctant to contribute to the Wiki?
- No way to keep docs in sync theme-wise, which was cool to show off features in other themes as well(well, partly anyway)
- SMF site is not Google, so we can expect delays, especially as SMF 2.0 get more spread and updated around the world.

Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen on July 31, 2011, 02:20:57 AM
I was one of the more vocal tea members speaking against that move in the first place, and I still agree with you guys that we should've kept an offline help section available, and could have expanded that with links to the wiki where suitable.

The reason that wasn't done is still beyond me, but I believe there were views that the existing help section was outdated and would've had to have been rewritten from scratch - which I also disagreed with, as I felt it held all the most needed basic user help in a working format as it was...
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: ahrasis on July 31, 2011, 03:53:06 AM
+10 for the last three posts...
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: impreza on August 03, 2011, 06:56:32 AM
and I will move soon to smf 2 - thanks
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: richboy on August 06, 2011, 04:27:02 PM
Congratulations to all you guys, and all of those who contributed!
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Stormfront on August 07, 2011, 12:59:52 AM
I am very happy SMF 2.0 Final  :P
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: werollhard on August 08, 2011, 08:28:34 PM
need to be upgraded.  anyone willing to do it for a little money or the satisfaction of helping someone out?

thanks
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: IchBin™ on August 08, 2011, 08:31:10 PM
werollhard, please post in the help wanted board. This is not a support topic. It's for the announcement of SMF2.0 final.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: werollhard on August 08, 2011, 08:35:01 PM
will do.  sorry about that. (let me know if you want to help out)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: ModelBoatMayhem on August 10, 2011, 02:21:59 PM
Bring back the Babylon theme!
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Gary on August 10, 2011, 04:15:23 PM
Once/if it's been updated. :P
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Alex' Manson on August 10, 2011, 06:23:01 PM
A Warning to SMF and their devs/admins!
we are ready to make a revolution and kick ya out for the babylon theme! so beware ! XP
and yes, babylon is pretty and simple i like it, don't know why they didn't upgrade it :(
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Angelina Belle on August 10, 2011, 06:49:22 PM
All that is needed is a volunteer willing to do the job, and time to do it.
Anyone could do it, and post it somewhere at simplemachines.org.

Would that be you?
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: ahrasis on August 10, 2011, 07:54:18 PM
A Warning to SMF and their devs/admins!
we are ready to make a revolution and kick ya out for the babylon theme! so beware ! XP
and yes, babylon is pretty and simple i like it, don't know why they didn't upgrade it :(
It wouldn't be that hard. Besides, we already have core theme together. That's a good start. Just go further and make necessary updates to your babylon theme using core theme as the guide.  ;)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: macjive01 on August 10, 2011, 08:23:25 PM
Hello,

I recently set up a forum site with smf  2.0 , however two day later my smiley bar  and everything btw this comment box and the message icon box went pooof. Disappeared.

its really frustrating, albeit im a newbie, im sure i didnt make any alteration that could have caused that.

please what do i do.

pls could someone in the support team check out the site , and try making a comment on any topic   imostateforum.com

Thanks

best regards
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Kindred on August 10, 2011, 08:37:00 PM
Please make your own post. This thread is not for support
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Shadow Queen on August 17, 2011, 11:48:42 PM
Yes, I have to say that. Im glad its out
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Loveland on September 11, 2011, 06:49:14 PM
Quick question:  Is the final version of 2.0 the same as "2.0 Gold"?

I've been trying to download some mods and some of them say that they are only for "2.0 Gold", yet I cannot find a single reference to "2.0 Gold" on the site,

Thank you in advance.  :)
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: TheListener on September 11, 2011, 06:54:54 PM
Quick question:  Is the final version of 2.0 the same as "2.0 Gold"?

I've been trying to download some mods and some of them say that they are only for "2.0 Gold", yet I cannot find a single reference to "2.0 Gold" on the site,

Thank you in advance.  :)

Quick answer is yes.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Matthew K. on September 11, 2011, 09:55:59 PM
There was debate as to whether the final version would be named "SMF 2.0 Gold", "SMF 2.0 Final" or simply "SMF 2.0".
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: 青山 素子 on September 12, 2011, 02:32:53 AM
There was debate as to whether the final version would be named "SMF 2.0 Gold", "SMF 2.0 Final" or simply "SMF 2.0".

Final implies it's the last ever release. Probably a bad thing, and one of the reasons I'd try to avoid that term officially. Given the lack of point releases so far, it may just live up to the "final" name anyway.

Gold usually indicates (in the dev world) that it's the production-ready release. This is due to the old practice of burning a master CD for duplication on special CD media (Kodak used to make it, instead of a green layer, it was gold).

Simply "2.0" is fine for version numbering as that's what it is.
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: Quexinos on September 16, 2011, 05:40:59 AM
Hey guys, just wanted to say awesome job on an awesome software.  I love SMF.  You guys are the best ^_^
Title: Re: 2.0 Final has been released
Post by: JhonOrton on September 16, 2011, 06:34:23 AM
Hi Sir,

    Congratulation..|:") Thanks  for releasing SMF 2.0 Final version. I hope it will go to top. All the Best.