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SMF Support => SMF 2.0.x Support => Topic started by: _Wes on August 10, 2011, 02:26:01 PM

Title: Upgrade 2.0 issues
Post by: _Wes on August 10, 2011, 02:26:01 PM
I just upgraded to 2.0 this week - after changine themes (and seeing some theme anomolies - both in IE and FF), I am now getting some odd 500 errors.

http://subcontrabassist.com/smf/index.php

Version Information:
Forum version: SMF 2.0 (more detailed)
Current SMF version: ??
GD version: bundled (2.0.28 compatible)
MySQL version: 5.0.91-log
PHP: 4.4.9
Server version: Apache


1.
I've seen this one posted elsewhere - and no fix yet - but the news from SMF doesn't show up, and neither does the SMF version?  I don't get this.  In the package manager, I can pull in 3rd party apps, but not SMF?  Weird.

2.
Forum links - within the forum itself, when clicking on thread links, I'll get errors.  In a new thread, trying to go back a page, or even on the front page clicking on a thread link - some of these are throwing 500 server errors.  This is being seen by various folks - in the US and abroad.

Any assistance appreciated.

Thanks
Title: Re: Upgrade 2.0 issues
Post by: Illori on August 10, 2011, 02:27:19 PM
and what?
Title: Re: Upgrade 2.0 issues
Post by: _Wes on August 10, 2011, 02:57:51 PM
Sorry - was attempting to post yesterday & was blocked.

Making sure I could before I spent more time typing.

Updated. 
Title: Re: Upgrade 2.0 issues
Post by: Illori on August 10, 2011, 02:59:28 PM
list of mods installed? who is your host? have you ask your host about the errors? 500 errors are usually server side.
Title: Re: Upgrade 2.0 issues
Post by: _Wes on August 10, 2011, 03:14:31 PM
No mods - just did the upgrade.  Wait - did add a Google+ 'like' button.

Host is godaddy.

No - didn't ask them anything - thought I'd come here first to see if this has been seen before.  Yes, 500 are server side errors - but I was thinking if it had been seen before, I wouldn't have to worry about contacting godad - their support leaves something to be desired.

and for the record - I've been running SMF forums (up to 5) for . . . years.   I won't use any other software.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Upgrade 2.0 issues
Post by: Illori on August 10, 2011, 03:15:59 PM
find a new host before it is too late, godaddy is one of the worst oversold hosts you can use.
Title: Re: Upgrade 2.0 issues
Post by: _Wes on August 10, 2011, 03:18:32 PM
I know - :(
Title: Re: Upgrade 2.0 issues
Post by: alex809 on August 10, 2011, 03:55:30 PM
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Title: Re: Upgrade 2.0 issues
Post by: Illori on August 10, 2011, 03:57:45 PM
Quote from: alex809 on August 10, 2011, 03:55:30 PM
one awsome webhost is x10hosting it is pretty much unlimited for everything and is the best host i have ever used.


please do not recommend oversold hosts they are very bad to use and often cause issues, there is no such thing as unlimited.
Title: Re: Upgrade 2.0 issues
Post by: alex809 on August 10, 2011, 04:10:12 PM
x10hosting is NOT oversold.

and yes there is. my website if it were on another host would take up the entire max limit of space and database and all of that in fact it would take 2 accounts on byethost to fit my website.

so x10hosting is the best web host i know of they have there own servers.

as long as you have a crap load of servers like Facebook does then yes there is such a thing as unlimited.
Title: Re: Upgrade 2.0 issues
Post by: Illori on August 10, 2011, 04:12:42 PM
anything that is unlimited in hosting is oversold there will always be limits

it does not matter if the host owns their own server or not, they can be an oversold host if they do own their servers or not.
Title: Re: Upgrade 2.0 issues
Post by: alex809 on August 10, 2011, 04:24:11 PM
Whatever in my opinion a web host can be unlimited as long as they add servers everyday.

so in my opinion yes there is a such thing as unlimited web hosting.

if you dont believe it then that's your belief not mine and i cant change that for you.
Title: Re: Upgrade 2.0 issues
Post by: Illori on August 10, 2011, 04:26:54 PM
unlimited does NOT exist and never will take a look at http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=117303.0
Title: Re: Upgrade 2.0 issues
Post by: alex809 on August 10, 2011, 04:30:36 PM
wow i dont believe that crap.

companies will sell things at low prices to get more users and people to use there services. The more users who pay for the services will give more money and if a price is low then allot more people will pay for it therefore they make way more money than they spend.

Therefore NOT ALL COMPANIES LIE ABOUT BEING UNLIMITED because they can MAKE ALL THE MONEY THEY SPEND BACK.
Title: Re: Upgrade 2.0 issues
Post by: Illori on August 10, 2011, 04:33:31 PM
fine believe how you want but unlimited DOES NOT EXIST, you can not put more resources then what exists on a server and expect people to get good results from it.
Title: Re: Upgrade 2.0 issues
Post by: alex809 on August 10, 2011, 04:40:42 PM
Yes i know that you cannot put more resources on ONE SERVER than there is on ONE SERVER but what i am saying is most companies like this have MORE THAN ONE SERVER therefore you can put more resources because there is MORE THAN ONE SERVER running them.

but if they have one server then i understand that an unlimited host is bogus. i understand it. i also understand that the more servers there are then the more resources they have and therefore it can happen.
Title: Re: Upgrade 2.0 issues
Post by: Illori on August 10, 2011, 04:42:51 PM
most hosts that offer unlimited hosting packages put a LOT of "servers" on one box and overload the box, this causes many issues with those that use the server. this is proven time and time again when people move off oversold hosts to those that are not oversold. again UNLIMITED does not exist anywhere and hosts that offer those packages do not add servers often enough to keep customers happy.
Title: Re: Upgrade 2.0 issues
Post by: alex809 on August 10, 2011, 04:44:47 PM
yes i understand that. yes most overload one box but then again others dont.

and just so you know i have always been with x10hosting and i have not had one problem with them at all EVER. so there doing something right.
Title: Re: Upgrade 2.0 issues
Post by: Illori on August 10, 2011, 04:47:06 PM
that does not mean that others do not have issues, this thread is not for this discussion and if it continues this thread will be split.
Title: Re: Upgrade 2.0 issues
Post by: alex809 on August 10, 2011, 04:52:00 PM
I know its not and that is why i am trying to finish this discussion but it does not seam to want to end.

anyway i dont have any support on my thread for smf themes and i need support for it so i can find out how to fix it so i can get to completely recoding my website witch i would like to get done today.
Title: Re: Upgrade 2.0 issues
Post by: Horme Gaming on August 10, 2011, 04:53:57 PM
alex unlimitted is a marketing term used by decietful hosts to intice gullable and new users to use there service, even google does not have unlimitted space, nor facebook, they have alot of space yes but not unlimitted.  Ok you say there unlimmited so why do they limit you to 1gb:

QuotePersonal Image\Video Galleries: Personal galleries are limited to 1GB of disk space for images and videos.
* Flash Arcades:  Flash arcade sites are limited to 1GB of disk space for the game files.

they also state that if you use too much bandwidth they will canncel your account

Quote2. High Resource Usage Policy

Resources are defined as bandwidth and/or processor utilization. x10Hosting may implement the following policy to its sole discretion: When a website is found to be monopolizing the resources available x10Hosting, reserves the right to suspend that site immediately. This policy is only implemented in extreme circumstances and is intended to prevent the misuse of our servers. Customers may be offered an option whereby x10Hosting continues hosting the website for an additional fee.

Wait how can you monopolise the bandwidth when its unlimitted
Title: Re: Upgrade 2.0 issues
Post by: alex809 on August 10, 2011, 04:57:05 PM
Ok i have a question is resource bandwidth??

and where did you locate

Personal Image\Video Galleries: Personal galleries are limited to 1GB of disk space for images and videos.
* Flash Arcades:  Flash arcade sites are limited to 1GB of disk space for the game files.

because i do not see that anywhere.
Title: Re: Upgrade 2.0 issues
Post by: Horme Gaming on August 10, 2011, 05:22:12 PM
http://x10hosting.com/terms

Should do research more :)
Title: Re: Upgrade 2.0 issues
Post by: Christian A. Herrnboeck on August 10, 2011, 11:21:01 PM
There is no such thing as unlimited services...

Disk space costs money, as in a hard drive to store things on costs money... And they need to get replaced fairly often in servers because of high use.

Network providers like ATT and Level3 charge us for every Gbit of transfer going through the server... Again, not cheap.

The server itself costs money, the power to run it costs money, the building to house the server in costs money, and all of these are continuing costs.

In order to be THAT cheap they are simply filling a server beyond capacity in order to cover their costs. This is overselling...

If they are free and doing that, that's stupid... they'll be broke one way or another sooner or later.


-Christian
Title: Re: Upgrade 2.0 issues
Post by: _Wes on August 12, 2011, 11:11:26 AM
I was able to upload a few 2.0 specific themes and this corrected all issues - including direct links to threads (on the home page), and even corrected the news feed from SMF.  Weird - but all seems well now.

Very odd that the default theme was broken, and had bad links - but by uploading new themes for 2.0 was able to get everything back as it should be.

Thanks

Fixed this issue myself. 
Title: Re: Upgrade 2.0 issues
Post by: Illori on August 12, 2011, 11:14:34 AM
no that conversation will not be deleted as it was made as result of a comment in this thread.