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SMF Development => Feature Requests => Applied or Declined Requests => Topic started by: kat on October 11, 2011, 01:28:21 PM

Title: "Not returning to the Post"
Post by: kat on October 11, 2011, 01:28:21 PM
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=455542.0;topicseen

This really should be the default setting... (https://www.simplemachines.org/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.katzy.dsl.pipex.com%2FSmileys%2Fc018.gif&hash=dbf6b10ad78cd31a57feae3f0016b14d8d2c90fa)
Title: Re: "Not returning to the Post"
Post by: Illori on October 11, 2011, 01:30:42 PM
strange as that thread you linked to sounds like an issue with anchors and not an issue with the default settings of the forum/user going back to the thread and not index.
Title: Re: "Not returning to the Post"
Post by: Kindred on October 11, 2011, 01:58:19 PM
return to the message index is the default (which is the best and correct behavior)
return to the topic is not the default, unless the admin has set his system-defaults differently.


As for what the behavior is for return to topic  --- I tested this one three 2.0 boards...  it correctly returns to the POST that I just made in the topic.
Title: Re: "Not returning to the Post"
Post by: kat on October 11, 2011, 02:02:05 PM
Quote from: Kindred on October 11, 2011, 01:58:19 PM
return to the message index is the default (which is the best and correct behavior)

Really?

I don't know anyone that has it set that way.

Everybody seems to prefer to see their post, to make sure it's OK.
Title: Re: "Not returning to the Post"
Post by: Illori on October 11, 2011, 02:04:07 PM
and who is to say that this is the correct behavior? just because you like it this way does not mean everyone does, if most users prefer that it be otherwise i think the default should be changed in the next major release.
Title: Re: "Not returning to the Post"
Post by: Kindred on October 11, 2011, 02:07:00 PM
yup, really.

honestly K@, I have never seen anyone set it that way...   and on any site which has that as the default, it is one of the first thing that I change (and, with 32,000 users logging into one of my sites, I have never had a complaint about it being set to return to the index.)


As for reviewing your post -- that's what preview is for.
Title: Re: "Not returning to the Post"
Post by: Illori on October 11, 2011, 02:08:16 PM
i always go back to my post by default so i can review it, and many users here have asked how to set it as default in support topics.
Title: Re: "Not returning to the Post"
Post by: kat on October 11, 2011, 02:09:18 PM
Same here.

Odd how our experiences, with that, are 180 degrees different, innit, Kindred?

Oh, well... It was just a suggestion.
Title: Re: "Not returning to the Post"
Post by: Kindred on October 11, 2011, 02:16:11 PM
definitely odd...   it always struck me as strange to have that on any board where I have seen it. My thought was "this is silly... why would anyone have ti go back to the post"


Just remember, I am always right*. :)



(* except when my wife disagrees)
Title: Re: "Not returning to the Post"
Post by: kat on October 11, 2011, 02:21:37 PM
(https://www.simplemachines.org/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.mylot.com%2FuserImages%2Fimages%2Fpostphotos%2F1907658.jpg&hash=0a8673caf730384a233a4a8332a41460e7905cf3)

;)
Title: Re: "Not returning to the Post"
Post by: Norv on October 11, 2011, 03:42:16 PM
Personally, I always return to my post. :) And many times edit it for something trivial. :D
Title: Re: "Not returning to the Post"
Post by: Kindred on October 11, 2011, 03:49:10 PM
don't you guys use the preview post for that? ???
Title: Re: "Not returning to the Post"
Post by: Norv on October 11, 2011, 03:50:21 PM
Yes, I do use that... too!  O:) :D
Title: Re: "Not returning to the Post"
Post by: Illori on October 11, 2011, 03:52:33 PM
i dont use the preview for my posts as i use the quick reply and it takes more steps to do that
Title: Re: "Not returning to the Post"
Post by: kat on October 11, 2011, 03:55:14 PM
Nope, coz Illori would beat me to EVERY post, if I did that! ;)
Title: Re: "Not returning to the Post"
Post by: Illori on October 11, 2011, 03:56:42 PM
hehe, not all of them ;) i do have a life outside the forum
Title: Re: "Not returning to the Post"
Post by: Kindred on October 11, 2011, 04:03:57 PM
you folks are just weird...
Title: Re: "Not returning to the Post"
Post by: Illori on October 11, 2011, 04:06:13 PM
nope you are the weird one, we are all normal.
Title: Re: "Not returning to the Post"
Post by: kat on October 11, 2011, 04:12:33 PM
Weirdness is one of those inherited diseases that we get from our kids.

Or, in my case, my wife's.
Title: Re: "Not returning to the Post"
Post by: Norv on October 11, 2011, 04:13:36 PM
LOL!
Title: Re: "Not returning to the Post"
Post by: Norv on November 07, 2011, 10:05:20 AM
So, which do you think is better off as default, here?

It is more "natural" to return to the post, or to the message index?

No biggie, either way, since this is easy to set as desired. Just funny.
Title: Re: "Not returning to the Post"
Post by: Illori on November 07, 2011, 10:20:36 AM
to start can you tell us what the default is already? i am assuming you are considering change it on sm.org
Title: Re: "Not returning to the Post"
Post by: Norv on November 07, 2011, 10:50:10 AM
I'd like to know which makes more sense, or comes more "naturally" to people. As I said, it's not a biggie, but I don't see why not have as default the one that is more useful or used. This discussion is, so far, having too few opinions. (although funny ones). So far, the matter is obviously a matter of preference and I think it falls under "if it ain't broke" rule. So far. (If there are more and stronger opinions, that may change.)


As default in SMF, that is. I didn't think to change it on sm.org, do you think that would help anything? It's per profile anyway. My own profile has, of course,
>> Return to topics after posting by default checked. :D
The themes defaults are unchecked, as per standard SMF install.

My point is, if many people DO change it for their forums (either as forum default or per their profile), I think SMF should change its defaults. If. :)
Title: Re: "Not returning to the Post"
Post by: Illori on November 07, 2011, 10:52:29 AM
i did change it on my forum, but i have not heard the users complain that they are redirected back to the post once submitted. also consider users with fewer then 10 posts can not edit this option as they can not edit their profile here, so a "user friendly" option would be nice.
Title: Re: "Not returning to the Post"
Post by: kat on November 07, 2011, 11:13:07 AM
"Return to post" seems most natural.
Title: Re: "Not returning to the Post"
Post by: Kindred on November 07, 2011, 11:45:15 AM
lol...   we disagree on that K@. :P   most natural to me is to go to the index after submitting a post. As I said, I don't see the point of going back to the post.

Anyway...  I think we have all expressed our opinions... we need input from a significant number of OTHER users.

Title: Re: "Not returning to the Post"
Post by: kat on November 07, 2011, 11:47:08 AM
You can't be considered as "Natural", though. ;)
Title: Re: "Not returning to the Post"
Post by: Illori on November 07, 2011, 07:17:04 PM
you want an opinion of someone else http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=458486 that good enough?
Title: Re: "Not returning to the Post"
Post by: live627 on November 07, 2011, 07:34:22 PM
Would be nice to go to the post instead of the message index.
Title: Re: "Not returning to the Post"
Post by: emanuele on November 17, 2011, 07:19:02 PM
I managed to get a mixed result (I'm not really sure how I obtained it): if I use the quick reply it returns to the message index, while if I use the post page it returns to the topic.

Funny thing is I don't like any of the two behaviours... :P
Sometime I prefer to come back to the topic, sometime I prefer go to the message index. So probably it doesn't matter.
Title: Re: "Not returning to the Post"
Post by: Norv on April 05, 2012, 10:38:36 PM
We just had the nth support request on how to make SMF return to the post, and Ant and I came up with the resolution and a bit of fun doing so: community poll. :)

Please find it at: Default setting: return to thread or return to index? (http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=473220.0)

Feel free to let know your preference there. After all, it's just a setting that can be changed both per user and admin (per theme actually), still I think the defaults are natural to be the most popular - the most used.
Title: Re: "Not returning to the Post"
Post by: Fustrate on April 05, 2012, 10:50:51 PM
Quote from: N. N. on October 11, 2011, 03:42:16 PM
Personally, I always return to my post. :) And many times edit it for something trivial. :D

Pretend I just said this, because it's exactly what I would've said :P
Title: Re: "Not returning to the Post"
Post by: Thantos on April 05, 2012, 11:37:04 PM
Quote from: K@ on November 07, 2011, 11:13:07 AM
"Return to post" seems most natural.
Most natural for me would be to magically close that tab as I've already moved on.
Title: Re: "Not returning to the Post"
Post by: Norv on April 06, 2012, 12:11:22 AM
Quote from: Thantos on April 05, 2012, 11:37:04 PM
Quote from: K@ on November 07, 2011, 11:13:07 AM
"Return to post" seems most natural.
Most natural for me would be to magically close that tab as I've already moved on.

If such thing would happen, I'd use immediately Ctrl+Z in Opera, respectively whatever "undo close tab" action my current browser has. :D
Title: Re: "Not returning to the Post"
Post by: Thantos on April 06, 2012, 10:32:18 AM
People still use opera?  What are you, a hipster? :p

Seriously, my method of forum browsing is this:  Unread search (either unread, global, category, or board), open new tabs for topics I want to read, close search tab, read topic, post reply, close tab, move onto the next one, repeat.  If I could make the tab close after posting then I could move onto the next one faster.